Repeated battles with Negative energy beings

[Nigma]

Hi there!

Spent alot of time reading the posts of Erin, her bloggings, and some of the threads here- in order to find answers for some really freaky expirences I've had over the last 9 months.

I think I've found some answers, but I still have questions and worries and I was hoping that some people more expirenced with negative energy beings (NEB) and Astral Travel could answer them.

It all started several months ago when I met a new girl and we became boyfriend and girlfriend over the course of a month. Eventually, and rather quickly, we ended up spending every night sleeping with one another- usually cuddling or holding hands.

Soon after, I had a "dream" with an NEB. Mind you- I did not know this at the time. I merely "saw" the creature in my dream and knew that it was evil. It wasn't really after me or chasing me or anything like that- in fact, I would say it was largely ignoring me. I tried telling it to go away- it continued to ignore me.

I'm not religious, but something inside me told me to command it away in the name of God- somehow I just knew that that was what I was suppose to do. I did- and it instantly directed its attention towards me. I could feel its seething negativity directed towards me. It almost felt as if it were looking for a way to strike me or hurt me. I didn't give it the opportunity. I summoned all the righteousness and willpower I had- and commanded it away in the name of god.

Every time I yelled "IN THE NAME OF GOD I COMMAND YOU TO BE GONE" I could feel it "inching" away (if such a thing is possible). It took over a half dozen of such commands before it finally retreated.

This happened to me a few times in the first few weeks I slept with her; in subsequent occurences I knew to invoke God to chase these creatures away- but it always took multiple attempts and it was never easy.

One time I mentioned having on of these dreams to my girlfriend- she told me that I was probably a psychic sensative, like her, and that when two are together the sensitivity is amplified. I don't know if this is true or not, but when I asked her if she had had any dreams about demons or spirts she told me that she had dreamt of a large black dog with shaggy fur (wolfish in appearence) and red eyes that had been staring at her on a few occasions and that it terrified her. She also had dreamnt that she had been raped by the devil.

At any rate, I didn't think anything of this. I wasn't exactly spiritual at the time and I had never had a lucid dream, let alone astrally projected (as far as I could tell). As time went on the incidents seemed to go down and I forgot about it. I actually ran across Seve Pavlina's site during this time- and he mentioned something about a spiritual sword that his wife had used in one of his posts/podcasts in passing- and I made a note to try it if I ever had one of these dreams again.

All was well until one night we were both lying in bed talking before we went to sleep. We both felt a HORRIBLE presence in the room. It was as if the entire room was saturated in malevolence- the entire room and even the atmosphere itself was dripping with evil. We felt nothing but pure dread. We left and slept at my place in the city 30 minutes away. Neither wanted to stay there. For whatever reason it did not follow us (I personally think it has something to do with all the different types of energy that are present in such abundence in a city- but I'm no expert). Whatever this thing was, I knew it was powerful- much more powerful then any of the other beings I had encountered in my dreams before- or after; both of us felt it while FULLY CONSCIOUS. I get goose bumps just thinking of it. I've never felt such powerful evil in my entire life. I never want to again. I don't know what it was, but I pity any poor soul who runs across such a creature while projecting- or even sleeping.

After this incident I only had more more incident before we broke up. I saw the red eyed black dog, but he didn't approach or attack me. He merely looked at me and growled for a bit.

Eventually I broke up with this girl. It turns out that she was a manipulative, malicious, pathological liar who plastered on an innocent face to lure me into a relationship- once she had me she was out to break me. The exact details aside I left her. However, I didn't realize how bad she was at the time- I just left her because she was making my life miserable.

After about 3 weeks we ended up trying to get back together. We ended up cuddling and holding hands when we fell asleep again. This is when the last incident occured.

I dreamed that two powerful Negative energy beings were approaching me. I KNEW one was a demon. The other was a sort of witch/crone like creature surrounded by a black cloud of negative energy. I'm 99% sure that this creature was the witch Baba Yagga. My gut/insticts feel it. Somehow I just know.

Baba Yaga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It felt as if they were both smirking at me for some reason. Regardless of why. I reacted instintively to push them away. I tried commanding the Demon away in the name of God. It laughed at me and began approaching me. I tried a few more times but it continued to approach and I remembered what Steve had said about the sword. I concentrated my rightousness and will and a sword formed in my hands.

I did battle with the demon. I don't remember the details- but I think it was seriously hurt and that it fled. I turned and faced the crone- we were face to face.

"You'll never take me" I said.
"We're not after you, we're after HER" she said- pointing at my girl.

I rammed the sword into her guts. I woke up shortly after.

I broke up with my girl for good about a week later. I finally consciously realized how bad she was. (Not because of the dream though).

So.... the tale is concluded; what conclusions have a drawn and what questions do I have?

Well, like I said- I never astrally projected before, as far as I know. I'm also a good person who gives off TONS of positive energy and usually vibrates at a high energy level (as Erin would put it).

So- why were these creatures bothing me, why could I even sense them if I wasn't astrally projecting?

The conclusion I've come to is that they were their because my Ex is such a "bad apple" (to put it mildly). She vibrates at a very low energy level giving off TONS of bad energy that these creatures are attracted to, much much more then would the average person emits when fearful or in another negative energy state. All this negative energy that she emitts attracts creatures MUCH more powerful then the average negative energy being. The evidence points to it; the weaker ones, who I intially encountered, resisted my invokation of God and did not flee at his mere mention. The Demon resisted it entirely and I actually had to fight him! This is leaving aside the being we both felt while fully conscious!

The question is though- that's her. She's the one giving off the energy. Why did you see them and have to fight them?

I think that our emotional closeness, "love making", and physical proximity created a sort of overlap in our psychic/dreaming/astral bubbles. In order to feed on the energy she was giving off the NEBs had to enter my bubble/dream sphere where I could sense them and fight them- even though I wasn't astrally projecting.

It was unexpected (at first) for them- they thought they were getting a great meal- only to be driven away by a being vibrating at a high energy level invoking god!

To draw an analogy- its as if I giant pile of raw meat were dumped into a big cat cage- and I was standing between the cats and the meal!

Now- I wasn't worried about any of this. But last night- I felt a very evil presence (not nearly as bad as that one night thought... shudder) around me when I was reading up about all this astral infromation on Erin's post (I think it burned out some circuitry on a cable box too, it fizzled and smoke came out at the same time I felt its presence... coincidence?) . I eventually left my house (to go for a booty call, of all things- to the very girl featured in this story... the joys of being a 27 year old male with hormones raging- no problems banging a girl you know is bad to the core) and it was gone when I got back. However, this left me with a few questions....

1. Is it possible that I pissed off a whole bunch of NEBs by violently driving them away from their meal for so long, and by seriously wounding (if not killing) two?
2. If they are pissed will they do anything about it? How can I tell? What CAN they do to me- while awake, while dreaming, while projecting (if I ever figure out how....)
3. Has anyone else felt something as evil as what I felt WHILE conscious? Could a evil/strong enough astral being be felt like that while awake- or was it more likely a spirit, on our plane, that also came to feed?
4. Will having pissed off these being put me on any sort of list? Did the spirit I feel last night come to bother me or just keep tabs?
5. Can anyone who can astrally project check with their spirit sources to find these things out?
6. Do I have to worry I'll be targted speficially if I ever astrally project? I KNOW I'm on their radar after what I did to some of their more powerful beings. Is it even a good idea to try to learn how given that some might be out for revenge?

[Dan.Linehan]

Hi Nigma, thanks for joining! Great post.

I know someone from an old job who went by your handle, Nigma. What made you choose it?

Regarding your post: Why defend this girl? If her character is as you describe, then she is attracting what she chooses to. You can't her breach free will and change that.


Leave them to their fates.

[Anna Conlan]

Hi Nigma,

When you sleep with someone, your energies merge and they remained merged for up to 72 hours afterwards - if you're clairvoyant sometimes you can actually see this - you carry some of their energy with you and they carry some of yours. It brings about a feeling of being close to that person but also means you can take on their 'stuff'.

If your ex was dealing in negative energies, it's likely you took some of those on. You can shed them just as quickly by intending to and by visualizing them gone.

If they are pissed will they do anything about it? How can I tell? What CAN they do to me- while awake, while dreaming, while projecting (if I ever figure out how....)

What negative entities can do to you all depends on your beliefs. If you believe you can be victimized by negative forces, it's possible for you. It's also possible to remain unaffected by negative forces...

When you take into account that negative forces appear to be very powerful but lack a source of energy (as they do not work with Source/God energy), it's easier to deal with them. I explain this in my blog post about overcoming a fear of the spirit world...

Negative entities are only as powerful as you allow them to be because they draw their energy from you when they're scaring you and victimizing you.

But you don't have to buy into them. They only harm you if you believe they can.

[Erin Pavlina]

Two people who are sensitive will definitely amplify each other's abilities. The fact that she was walking the dark path is obviously what was attracting those beings to you. They probably thought they'd get a tasty snack of your light.

[wachusettgirl]

Don't fret, just ask them to leave... you have more power than you realize.

[NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by Nigma

I'm not religious, but something inside me told me to command it away in the name of God- somehow I just knew that that was what I was suppose to do.

Is there someone very religious in your family that has a direct bloodline to you, living or dead, that may have prayed for you to know God? Sometimes If we are resistant to coming to God because we think we have to change our lifestyle, then we come to a knowledge of the spiritual things through the back door.

Did you try the name of Jesus instead of just the name of God? Sometimes you also have to mention the blood of Jesus.

Originally Posted by Nigma

Every time I yelled "IN THE NAME OF GOD I COMMAND YOU TO BE GONE" I could feel it "inching" away (if such a thing is possible). It took over a half dozen of such commands before it finally retreated.

The key here is what you believe. If you only believe they will move as you see them move, then doubt about whether they will move will feed their power. They do not know what you are thinking, so if you keep repeating yourself sometimes that shows fear. If you notice in the Bible, Jesus only said one word usually, "Go."

Originally Posted by Nigma

This happened to me a few times in the first few weeks I slept with her; in subsequent occurrences I knew to invoke God to chase these creatures away- but it always took multiple attempts and it was never easy.

Sometimes when people do things in a room that are evil, then evil energy comes to that place and hangs around. Some people do witchcraft like things to attract things to themselves and override the will of others, something may never admit.

Originally Posted by Nigma

We felt nothing but pure dread. We left and slept at my place in the city 30 minutes away.

It's not really a good idea to let these things push you around like this, to take over the space and make you leave. If you are that scared, you might be bowing to them next. Go to the Bible and get yourself some power.

Originally Posted by Nigma

"You'll never take me" I said.
"We're not after you, we're after HER" she said- pointing at my girl.

Please remember that these things lie and don't take so seriously what they say.

Originally Posted by Nigma

Why did you see them and have to fight them?

As I said, they lie. You don't have to fight them, all you have to do is resist.

James 4:7 - Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Originally Posted by Nigma

To draw an analogy- its as if I giant pile of raw meat were dumped into a big cat cage- and I was standing between the cats and the meal!

See what you are doing? They can have her anytime they want her when you are not there. They do not want your energy. They want your mind and your body to work through. It is best not to take spiritual information from demons.

Originally Posted by Nigma

I'm also a good person who gives off TONS of positive energy and usually vibrates at a high energy level.........

....I eventually left my house (to go for a booty call, of all things- to the very girl featured in this story... the joys of being a 27 year old male with hormones raging- no problems banging a girl you know is bad to the core) and it was gone when I got back.

These two statements do not match, a high energy person does not use lower energy people for physical reasons. The way the Bible puts it is "What fellowship does light have with darkness?" To join your body with a low energy or evil person is the last thing a person who wants to be free from demonic oppression should do. This is the only sin where we actually become one with another person.

This is another time they routed you to what they wanted. Of course they were gone when you got back. They accomplished what they were sent to do.

Originally Posted by Nigma

Is it possible that I pissed off a whole bunch of NEBs by violently driving them away from their meal for so long, and by seriously wounding (if not killing) two?

It's possible that you have done what Jesus said not to do. If a demon is cast out, it goes and gets seven more. If the place is clean, they leave. If not they come in.

Originally Posted by Nigma

If they are pissed will they do anything about it? How can I tell? What CAN they do to me- while awake, while dreaming, while projecting (if I ever figure out how....)

The only thing they can do to you is lie to you. The only way to stay in you is if they find something evil in you they can hold on to.

There was an old preacher who did a lot of work in undeveloped countries where there is more demonic activity. When the devil came to him one night he woke up and said, "Oh it's just you" and turned over and went back to sleep. So what if they were there, why fight them? According to the Bible, they are already defeated by Jesus.

Originally Posted by Nigma

Has anyone else felt something as evil as what I felt WHILE conscious?

Yes

Originally Posted by Nigma

Will having pissed off these being put me on any sort of list? Did the spirit I feel last night come to bother me or just keep tabs?

It came to make you afraid and it worked.

Originally Posted by Nigma

Can anyone who can astrally project check with their spirit sources to find these things out?

I don't do that, have no desire for it.

Originally Posted by Nigma

Do I have to worry I'll be targeted superficially if I ever astrally project? I KNOW I'm on their radar after what I did to some of their more powerful beings. Is it even a good idea to try to learn how given that some might be out for revenge?

Luke 10:19 - Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
1 John 4:3-4 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Other than that, submission to God, you are on your own. They will lie to you, come and go as they please, withdraw on purpose so you will believe you are powerful, basically anything they can to keep you away from the truth of God.

You are dealing with something stronger and smarter than you are. There is no end to what they can trick you into doing or believing. They tricked Judas into believing a lie that eventually caused him to commit suicide and he spent three years with Jesus Himself. So be careful.

[clementc82]

I thought things like this only happen to the Chinese culture, as they are very superstitious..

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by Nigma

Hi there!

Spent alot of time reading the posts of Erin, her bloggings, and some of the threads here- in order to find answers for some really freaky expirences I've had over the last 9 months.

I think I've found some answers, but I still have questions and worries and I was hoping that some people more expirenced with negative energy beings (NEB) and Astral Travel could answer them.
...

Hi, Nigma, and welcome.

I believe these ‘negative energy beings’ are projections of your own consciousness. They are part of you. You are witnessing reflections or symbols of your inner reality and beliefs.

If you consider them to be external and separate from you, then you will have a problem. The fear you have is proportional to the degree of separation you feel from them.

I used to dream about being pursued by wild animals or evil figures. The more fear I felt, the more real they became, and the more they pursued me. Once I mustered the courage to turn round and face them, they dissolved into nothing.

I encountered an evil presence many years ago when I was fooling around with hypnotism with a girlfriend. Thirty years on, I can now understand more clearly.

Every thing and every person you experience is an aspect of you. There is nothing external to you.

Many psychics and religious don’t like to hear this. It is their daily bread to believe, and have others believe, that there are all sorts of battles going on in various realms of existence, between ‘good’ and ‘evil’ entities, forever knocking 7 kinds of sh*te out of each other!!

They are just dramatisations of consciousness. If you believe them to be real, then they are real for you, so, in one sense, they do exist within a realm of your consciousness.

Even if you can’t accept this yet, just play around with the idea. Just doing that will shift your focus and unplug some of the energy you have invested in their ‘existence’, and you will then feel less threatened and fearful.

Best wishes.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Cantando

I used to dream about being pursued by wild animals or evil figures. The more fear I felt, the more real they became, and the more they pursued me. Once I mustered the courage to turn round and face them, they dissolved into nothing.

It was aways King Kong for me, LOL. He went away on his own. Guess they needed him for the re-make...

Every thing and every person you experience is an aspect of you. There is nothing external to you.
Many psychics and religious don’t like to hear this. It is their daily bread to believe, and have others believe, that there are all sorts of battles going on in various realms of existence, between ‘good’ and ‘evil’ entities, forever knocking 7 kinds of sh*te out of each other!!

Right on and Amen (heh) to both!.

I've got my eye on you, Cantando...

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by fellowtraveler

It was aways King Kong for me, LOL. He went away on his own. Guess they needed him for the re-make...

Excellent