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| Psychic Nearly Destroys Family | LiveScience If there is any real psychic out there, i don't know. What i do know is that people should always give a second and a third thought when a "psychic" tells them something significant about them. People should never make important decisions in the lives based solely on "psychic's" advices. |
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It's really no different than any other profession in the sense of mistakes. It's safe to say that doctors do a lot more damage than psychics do when they misread a serious problem (which happens quite often).
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Yes but that's different. A doctor is primarily needed, because the person isn't going to heal all by himself. The doctor is the most qualified person to give the advice, and if accepting a doctor's advice causes occasional damage, then imagine if the person takes a religious' leader advice that god will heal them and they shouldn't worry. It's so hard to trust someone or something in this world completely, and even the "specialists", as doctors, shouldn't be completely trusted, let alone "psychics". |
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Doctors aren't the most qualified people to give healing advice. They are indeed well-qualified to give disease advice, but they have little to offer healthy people. If you are diseased or wounded, you might seek the advice of a medical doctor (aka a dis-ease expert). But if you'd prefer not to be diseased, it's better to seek the advce of a health expert (i.e. someone with a track record of helping people stay healthy and disease-free for long periods of time, which is practically the opposite of a medical doctor). | |
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what what what? care to make some sense in what you write please? | ||
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Many doctors do actually have a vocation to heal and do have natural healing gifts. They are not all unsympathetic ogres, intent on pumping drugs into their patients. In fact the last few times I and my wife have been to the doctor's, they have shied away from prescribing any medication. I have witnessed on two occasions (when my daughter was seriously ill and when my wife was having problems giving birth - both with associated high blood pressure), the appearance of a doctor had a strange calming effect on the situation and helped bring down their blood pressure, even though they were barely conscious at the time. | |
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I have met on occasion however a mainstream doctor who is healing just by their presence. Without uttering a word that would seem out of line with the most mainstream ways of thought they emanated an aura that was both professional and caring. The professionalism provided a level of healing because it was instantly communicated to my body and mind that this person knows what they are doing. Like a horse being communicated to by a master trainer I was instantly put at peace. The caring intent provided a level of healing because they "listened" to me - my body, my mind(and it felt like my spirit too). Because they could "listen" to me so well, they were able to respond and communicate precisely what I needed to hear - on different levels. Ironically enough, none of these doctors actually prescribed me anything, but the healing was clearly transmitted to me and it felt good, nurturing and well, healing. I'm not sure if these doctors were conscious of the healing nature of their communication and being, but for me it was very clear that each of them was a natural healer. | |
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Just another example of the state attempting to terminate parental rights based on invalid evidence. Psychics are not required for this type of thing to happen, just look at the Waco compound raided on an anonymous phone call that turned out to be fake. Hundreds of children separated from their families. The state needs to stay out of family business.
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| True "healing" doctors are just as prevelant (maybe a little more so because they'll gravitate that way due to their natural instincts) in the "medical" world as they are in the "mundane" world - which is to say, not very. However, when you are fortunate enough to find one, hang on to them. Their combination of knowledge and innate gifts make them amazing individuals to be around and to seek help from.
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Of course i am, i thought there was no more question about that. But while i gave some arguments basing my opinion, that supertom guy just went writing some nonsense, literally. I mean, look at this: Quote:
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When I was young, a psychic told my dad that I "wasn't going to make it." She meant I would kill myself and "wouldn't make it." Back then I was offended by it and insulted and felt bad about it. I was so young. But now I understand her prediction and, as of yet, I wish she had been right.
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And what a statment "demented spirit", you sure don't know SH** about this stuff to be attacking it. Now personally I don't have time for fighting, so I won't get involved. But I'm pretty sure this positive enviroment doesn't want your kind around. | |
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| Psychics, doctors, whoever are just like any other field. There can be really good ones, mediocre ones, and ones that are just plain bad and may be possibly frauds. If you think psychics is all fake than why bother refuting it to other people. Obviously if enough people believe it there's got to be some truth to it in it's own right. Maybe try it on for size and then see what you think after you practice some of it (i.e. this would involve getting rid of some of your skeptical beliefs...because no matter how hard you try it you don't think it's going to happen it won't happen. This would also spawn further that your thoughts create your reality...if I feel I'm a crappy bowler...there's no way I'm going to bowl a 300 game the next time I play---I'm already defeating myself before I start.) So go ahead give it a try.
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I was joking on the demented spirit thing, i thought that was obvious. The word "attacking" certainly holds a strong connotation. Maybe we should use "questioning" or "challenging"... what's wrong with it? And what's with all these over emotional responses?? | |
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And I know the way to peace, I'm not fighting with violence, I don't know why you seem to think I am. I do believe what I said was called for. And for emotional responses, I'm just like that. | |
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lol As you prefer; although i still don't see what's wrong with what i said. Bad guy?? I just made a point, and you didn't give me a decent response yet based on reasoning, as many others here have done already. Quote:
What do you mean by "enough"? To me, when "enough" people believe in something, it only proves how humans, because of their nature, can be manipulated to believe in mass delusions. Or do you think that the Nazis were right about their beliefs because they had "enough" believers (probably more than the combined population of psychics in the world)? Quote:
As you said there are good and bad psychics. Even if i let aside of my skeptical beliefs and go talk to a psychic, if he eventually proves to be wrong, then you will call him a bad one. Then i would have to go to another one, and another one, and so on. I'm not willing to spend the time or money to do it, although this is something that interests me very much, and if i were rich and didn't have much to do i would certainly go to a few dozens of psychics to see if any of them really has some supernatural power. | |||
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How is the act of questioning something, attacking the community? If it has a firm foundation, then the community should be able to withstand questioning of its fundamental beliefs. Same goes for individuals, of course. The community here is so broad that I don't think just questioning a single belief is attacking the community. Quote:
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The above isn't to say I don't think psychics are real, nor to attack those who believe such. However, I do find it odd, and rather frightening, that people should react with anger at someone questioning something that, frankly, has no reason not to be questioned. If you believe in it, please state your evidence. If you have none, and still choose to believe in it, that is your prerogative, but don't attack those who choose not to believe things for which there is no proof. Doing so reveals that you are probably unsure of its reality yourself and/or are scared of it being proved wrong. | |||||
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| Why should I have to prove to you my beliefs? Isn't that a bit silly? Quote:
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Is he attacking anyone? He didn't become the least bit defensive until someone attacked him. It is good to question things. those who refuse to do so are usually too scared of it being proven wrong. | |
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But really, most people that get a reading are feeling lost. They are already in a state of "need". They will believe in the unseen as a way to get help as a means to fix something. I think people in this state are also ones that easily put their power into someone else's hands and may not be getting better this way. If you have ever gotten a reading, what did it do for you? Give you some information that you won't use anyway because you have free will? Or because you are so lost, you do use that info while giving up your power, since you are already feeling lost? If you ask a psychic something like should I break up with my gf? And they say yes. Do you do that? Or if you don't - why get the reading? If the reading says, take that job - do you do that? How do you know if that is good advice? You still need your own decision skills to exercise your free will. Or you give up your power and just do what the reading proposes as the best for you. In other words a reading goes one of two ways. You either make up your own mind anyway (so why get a reading?) or you follow the psychic advice which means you aren't deciding for yourself (giving away your power). | |
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| That's why it's probably not a good idea to ask yes/no questions in a reading. If done correctly, I think readings can potentially bring one's awareness to paths one has not previously considered. Then one can weigh it against the other potential paths, and decide if it seems better, or not.
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What exactly do you find wrong with the above? If it was someone who believed in psychic ability, who made a similar post, I'm sure you would thank him/her for the warning and move along. But since it is a skeptic posting such a warning, suddenly they are trying to attack your beliefs? | |
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I'm starting to see that along with Gratitude, Expansion is one of the most powerful forces in the universe. (my "most powerful forces in the universe" list is expanding, and I'm so grateful for that. I am not and was not feeing lost, and my guess is that many people approach getting a reading from a place similar to mine: curiosity, fun, and desire for expansion. | |
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