christian psychics

[clair08]

Is it possible to be Christian and psychic. I think it's possible. Some people think that if you have a gift you get your information from the occult and that you're a satanist. I believe 100% that God gives psychic their abilities and any information they get. I don't even read horoscopes but I'm still claircognizant.

[Savage]

Christianity is a perspective, not an identity, so you're certainly free to explore your psychic abilities while still accessing the lens of Christianity. God isn't going to smite you.

The downside is that Christianity is a fairly weak lens to use for developing your psychic skills, so it will likely hold you back in this area if you cling to it too tightly. Its paradigm of reality offers only a little useful psychic guidance (mainly prayer, love, and miracles). So you might want to set it aside while exploring your psychic abilities. Allow yourself to open your mind beyond what the church teaches.

[clair08]

I agree about keeping an open mind. I'm a Christian, I'm not really interested in the teachings of Wicca or anything like. I think the church needs to change their teachings about psychics. They don't even acknowledge that their are psychics with angels as spirit guides, and dream interpreters in the bible. Are you a Christian Steve? When I've tried to tell people about my gift their like afraid of me and I've even been called a witch. I'm just scared that my church will call me a satan worshiping fortune teller and kick me out.

[Lisa McGregor]

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are; for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions as the heathen do; for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. But not ye therefore like unto them; for your Father knowest what things ye have need of, before ye ask him."

This is from The Sermon on the Mount. It is possible to be a Christian but follow your own path. God can see into your soul and whether it's intentions are good.

Love
Lisa

[Brutha]

Are you a Christian Steve?

Steven isn't any religion all the time, go to the Beyond Religion podcast to for a more detailed description of Steves religion.
But he was raised Catholic.

[Lehrling]

I feel as I am a psychic that has not fully unlocked my ability. I have always though of being a psychic as being one with mediumistic abilities. Never did I associate it with a religion. But now, as I find out more and more about myself, I realize that I am trusting both. I am christian, and as strange as it sounds to me, psychic. I still see no connection between the two things, but I am still very close to both. So I don't see why you couldn't be both, but I beleive they don't have anything to do with each other, personally.

[seo1]

God does not see religion. God is pure energy and light. He sees the person and their heart just like Lisa said. He does not differentiate between one religion or the next.

This is how religion has come to complicate God's true nature. Man has tried to make God who they want, using His Name to manipulate others.

In truth there is only one religion. Follow God and trust in His way and you'll never go wrong regardless of what religion you call yourself.

Follow the true aspects of religion. That is God's Truth and Light. You'll feel it when it is right.

[coLLege kid07]

Originally Posted by Lehrling

I feel as I am a psychic that has not fully unlocked my ability. I have always though of being a psychic as being one with mediumistic abilities. Never did I associate it with a religion. But now, as I find out more and more about myself, I realize that I am trusting both. I am christian, and as strange as it sounds to me, psychic. I still see no connection between the two things, but I am still very close to both. So I don't see why you couldn't be both, but I beleive they don't have anything to do with each other, personally.

I think realising that things such as the bible and christianity are just beliefs is what helps. They are just mind materal. Yes there is substance to them but at the end of the day they are still mind materal. If there are some beliefs that hold you back while being psychic, well then that's your choice. Yes you can still have both a belief and spirituality but when it comes to being held back its up to you to make the choice. Either accept it and not fully expand your abilities, or change it and dump the disempowering beliefs.

[amixa]

you definitely can have psychic ability and happen to be christian or catholic or whatever
as said above.. in the spirit world they do not care about religion.
my great grandmother was extremely in tune with the spirit world along with her husband and they took care of a chapel back in the first part of the 1900s. they still make mass for them today as they valued her ability to communicate with spirits. (this is in europe though)
following your own path is very essential. if it makes you uncomfortable don't tell people in your church.. or in time you may feel that people who can't accept you for your abilities are not the best company.

[xhironakamurax]

Originally Posted by seo1

God does not see religion. God is pure energy and light. He sees the person and their heart just like Lisa said. He does not differentiate between one religion or the next.

This is how religion has come to complicate God's true nature. Man has tried to make God who they want, using His Name to manipulate others.

In truth there is only one religion. Follow God and trust in His way and you'll never go wrong regardless of what religion you call yourself.

Follow the true aspects of religion. That is God's Truth and Light. You'll feel it when it is right.

I think that religion is my religion...lol.

I'm going to write it out soon, more of a lifestyle. Pagan, Buddhist, and some early christian teachings, other religions aswell.

I don't don't think god would mind, infact most of what has happened to the christian church over the past 50 years has not been good.

ex. Fred phelps, Doc - Jesus camp.

[blondiefish]

Hi .... i happened upon this website today and found it to be really interesting. I just wanted to add that I completely agree with seo1 ..... God is the way to deal with this ...... I choose NOT to refer to what gift God has given me as "psychic". Rather, I believe ..... and I'm certainly NOT trying to push my beliefs on anyone .... BUT, I believe this ability is called "discernment". The bible talks about discernment. I would suggest a website that is bible based to get your information from if interested. If you keyword search the term "got questions" .... you will come up with a really good resource for bible questions. That website allows you to again type in keywords ...... it's sorta like a concordance ..... and it really has some GREAT explinations regarding discernment and how God wants us to handle it.

This is a really neat website ...... I love reading the opinions of others on the subject.

[Starsigns]

What being psychic/having a very active sixth sense has done for me to is to STRENGTHEN my Christian Faith. I've seen angels, walked with Jesus (via astal projection), talked/heard the voice of the Holy Spirit and had other marvelous, mind-boggling experience. This accompanied with reading books "kept out" of the Bible has opened my eyes to how the Christian religion of today is far from how it started out.

Jesus himself was a psychic, was an Essene (a sect of dowsing Jews), learned to levitate and other things during His trip to India, etc. Amazing Gifts he had..but in today's times it's not explained in layman's terms.

Anyways, being psychic/dowsing is not "cool" thanks to things like the Inquisition. During these and other times- people were killed who did not need to "go thru the Church/Pope" to be connected to God/the Other Side. Because, not needing to go through the Pope, the church for Guidance from God- they could not justify the means collect the monies needed to build the great buildings and also wouldn't have had a means of controlling the masses. The solution?- kill off those who have a Divine gift so the "secret' can't get out.

People don't really notice the many parallels in the Catholic form of Christianity which came from Ancient Wise ways of worship and Connection. Notice how the rosemary beads are like a pendulum (wood beads with a weighted cross)? Notice how aromatherapy is used in the masses (to aid in deeper meditation which is the BEST way to Hear the voice of your Guides, etc.)? Holy Water is a REAL DEAL! It really does help with possessions and clearing of spaces.

I prolly could go on and on. But to end, being Christian and psychic/dowsing isn't the conflict. The "religion" is the conflict.

SS'

[andrew112]

Originally Posted by Starsigns

Jesus himself was a psychic

Yes.

[NightSpirit]

It is supposed to be very common to have supernatural experiences as a Christian. The nine gifts of the Spirit are described in 1 Cor 12.

The gift of prophesy is to speak things that will happen. The word of knowledge is knowing something by the Spirit, something factual that did not come through natural means. The word of wisdom is just that, to have inspired insight about what to do. Gifts of healing, self explanatory.

The gift of faith is a certain gift that will come where a person believes something will happen without trying to believe it. The gift of miracles would be like some Jesus did, multiplying fishes or turning water to wine. Discerning of spirits is the ability to see spiritual forces at work beneath what is obvious. And of course, tongues and interpretation which God uses to convey a message straight through bypassing our understanding.

All may experience any of the gifts at any time but seems like some people are used by God in the operation of the same gift repeatedly.

The Church does ignore the gifts because some people become full of pride or misuse their gifts for personal glory. We also have a tendency to worship or seek gifts and not the Giver of the gifts. I have found that the operation of these gifts, while used to do God's will on earth, can apply to any area of life that concerns us.

[Pequod]

In Christian mysticism there are many psychic phenomena. For example levitation is quite common. Also there have been many mystics who had visions (like Saint Teresa of Avila).

[Starsigns]

Originally Posted by NightSpirit

It is supposed to be very common to have supernatural experiences as a Christian. The nine gifts of the Spirit are described in 1 Cor 12. .......

Very "nice" but I disagree with the inherent baseline that every Christian has ability just because they are Christian. This is not true. You are human before you are practicing Christian. And as a human- there's a genetic, God-given abilities that you have or don't have. Your psychic ability is one of these.

The Church does ignore the gifts because some people become full of pride or misuse their gifts for personal glory.

I feel the Church initially deliberately "ignored" natural Divining people because the Roman Christians wanted people to only use "the Pope". People who threatened this human-anointed position were eliminated behind the premise of the Inquisition, etc.

[NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by Starsigns

Very "nice" but I disagree with the inherent baseline that every Christian has ability just because they are Christian. This is not true. You are human before you are practicing Christian. And as a human- there's a genetic, God-given abilities that you have or don't have. Your psychic ability is one of these.

That was not the intent of what I said. I agree completely that certain spiritual abilities are God-given to every person. My point was that, for a Christian, there is a framework and description laid out for the use of those gifts. The exercise of them should be natural within the Christian church. Spiritual gifts are accepted and used within certain denominations.

Psychic abilities, I believe, are enhanced or put to the best use when connecting to what God is speaking to a particular situation and by receiving a "gift" from the Spirit of God to meet a need.

I also believe natural divining people can be misled into following other spiritual influences. A person can open themelves up to spiritual contact but not all the forces that make contact will be good. I believe a trust in God for discernment is the best protection against being deceived

Originally Posted by Starsigns

I feel the Church initially deliberately "ignored" natural Divining people because the Roman Christians wanted people to only use "the Pope". People who threatened this human-anointed position were eliminated behind the premise of the Inquisition, etc.

I was speaking more in terms of why churches today do not put emphasis on these spiritual gifts. We have a tendency as humans to get focused on what we can get, practice, acquire, do without God and the church naturally focuses on God.

I am not very familiar with Catholic Church history; I am not a Catholic. From what I understand the power of the Inquisition was limited to baptized Catholics. Death was the punishment for opposing the church in any way, not just as a psychic. Secular governments of the time also executed people for psychic abilities.

It has just been in recent history, say the last 50 years, that a person could legally advertise as a psychic without facing prosecution in some areas of the US. I don't agree that all this took place just because of the Catholic or societal need for control but mostly from a real fear that the devil could work through these people and harm others.

Do you believe that people can misuse their psychic gifts to mislead, swindle or harm others no matter what belief system name they use for it?

[raphnix]

I want to ask too if psychics are basically like paganist and that they maybe violating some Christian rules thus they should not be part of the community anymore?

[Starsigns]

Originally Posted by NightSpirit

That was not the intent of what I said. I agree completely that certain spiritual abilities are God-given to every person. My point was that, for a Christian, there is a framework and description laid out for the use of those gifts. The exercise of them should be natural within the Christian church. Spiritual gifts are accepted and used within certain denominations.

Psychic abilities, I believe, are enhanced or put to the best use when connecting to what God is speaking to a particular situation and by receiving a "gift" from the Spirit of God to meet a need.

I also believe natural divining people can be misled into following other spiritual influences. A person can open themelves up to spiritual contact but not all the forces that make contact will be good. I believe a trust in God for discernment is the best protection against being deceived



I was speaking more in terms of why churches today do not put emphasis on these spiritual gifts. We have a tendency as humans to get focused on what we can get, practice, acquire, do without God and the church naturally focuses on God.

I am not very familiar with Catholic Church history; I am not a Catholic. From what I understand the power of the Inquisition was limited to baptized Catholics. Death was the punishment for opposing the church in any way, not just as a psychic. Secular governments of the time also executed people for psychic abilities.

It has just been in recent history, say the last 50 years, that a person could legally advertise as a psychic without facing prosecution in some areas of the US. I don't agree that all this took place just because of the Catholic or societal need for control but mostly from a real fear that the devil could work through these people and harm others.

Do you believe that people can misuse their psychic gifts to mislead, swindle or harm others no matter what belief system name they use for it?

Ya know you're right about the additional pool of people the Inquisition targeted and vanquished...and I maybe should have included more in that statement. I'm not Catholic either (was raised Baptist)...and until I really started my spiritual growth, I'd started to regard many rites used in that sect of Christianity as "cult-like" because of the chanting, the incense, the many statues people use to pray under, lots of things done that could be considered "pagan". I had to totally laugh when I came to understand how many aspects were indeed linked to improved spirituality (except the Pope part of it).

Anyways, to answer your question: "Do you believe that people can misuse their psychic gifts to mislead, swindle or harm others no matter what belief system name they use for it?"...the short answer is yes. You are human 1st before you are psychic. If the proper protocol is not used when seeking the information, you can either be misled and therefore give inaccurate information OR you can choose to be informed by the Dark and thereby be screwed or screw others.

So one is conscious and the other isn't- but it's possible.

SS'

[NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by raphnix

I want to ask too if psychics are basically like paganist and that they maybe violating some Christian rules thus they should not be part of the community anymore?

A person who is not wishing to submit to the Christian God probably wouldn't want to be in a church community. There was a woman mentioned in the Bible who actually had a spirit of divination ad followed Paul and Silas around.

Acts 16:16-23 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

And when her masters saw that the hope of their gains was gone, they caught Paul and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the rulers, And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city, And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to observe, being Romans. And the multitude rose up together against them: and the magistrates rent off their clothes, and commanded to beat them. And when they had laid many stripes upon them, they cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely

So some people know things because of contact with dead people or spirits. And some people have a special gift from God but don't know it yet. And some others are hearing from God and repeating what He says about the future.

It would be more of a sin for a person to say they are speaking from God when they know they are not and a lot of people do this. Even within the church, we are told to try the spirits and judge what is said. Of course we should do this outside of the church too.

My life was so chaotic as a young adult, I started to look into different ways to know the future, hoping I could control it. I went to card readers and palmists, crystal ball readers, etc.

There was one who was so accurate that she could tell a person the date and time something would happen. I followed her advice and set up a series of events to marry my then boyfriend.

Everything happened as she said. This visit with her was about a year before we married. She told me that my husband would not want our child (I became pregnant after we were married for 4 months by accident when I switched pills after having problems with the others) but to ignore him and have the baby.

I did as she said and he left me when I was 5 months pregnant and got engaged to another woman. The psychic had told me that he would love my son more than I did when he could actually see him and I held onto that hope those months alone. It's hard to admit, as much as I love my son, he loved him a lot too. We got back together after my son was born but the next 10 years were off and on hell.

I wouldn't take anything for my son and I really, really loved my husband but I wonder if I hadn't taken her advice and married a more stable person, would my life had been better. Never know. That psychic stopped reading after her own daughter committed suicide.

I went further into those things, astrological charts (too time consuming), cards (fairly accurate but vague) and then to palmistry. I read palms strictly from the instructions and the book said as I did it I would become intuitive and spiritual in it. That's what happened and one day, I told this woman she almost died at 19. She thought someone told me, but no.

I looked at another woman's palm and saw that she would live a long life but that the last about a third of her life would be in poor mental health. I didn't tell her. How and why would you say that to a person? I had been waiting to see if that happened and when she was recently diagnosed with MS, I knew that was what I saw.

When I started going to church and reading the Bible, I threw all those books away and as I have said before, my hand actually fought me and the garbage bag was shaking. I knew it was a spirit and I didn't want it.

After my baptism in the Holy Spirit, I found out there are Christians that seek to use the gifts of the Spirit to help people to know things God wants them to know. We are supposed to trust God with the future so to want to know purely out of fear won't usually bring good answers. The gifts of the Spirit are supposed to be to build up people, for comfort, clarification, confirmation, etc.

God has sent me signs and used me to deliver messages to others in the past but not recently. I have just come back to God after a long absence from doing what I knew I should not have been doing. While I was away from God's best, I sought hard for someone to be a guide for me and spent a lot of money trying to find a person through which God could speak to me.

I knew there were people at church that could do that but I also knew the first thing God would say to me was about a relationship I didn't want to give up on. So I went my own way. I am back with God now and waiting on Him for direction for my own life on some things now and I hope He will use me again as He has in the past.

There have been four or five times God sent me to talk to people that were away from Him, not thinking about anything spiritual, and they were about to die but didn't know it. I didn't tell them they were going to die because God didn't tell me to. In the conversation though, one said he felt like he must be going to die. That one listened. Two others I tried but didn't follow up, just prayed and asked God to send someone else because they were men and I was a single woman then; I won't do that again. One committed suicide; the other may have. He had a motorcycle wreck. In the other case, he didn't listen or turn to God, started cheating, got aids and died really young.

My husband had cancer but didn't know it and God told us through prayer and was saved. My daughter was in a life and death situation that God walked us out of. I can't complain at all about God's goodness and I know He cares about the fate of people. Ultimately though it is up to each of us to be sure we are listening and not depend on someone else.

[NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by Starsigns

I'm not Catholic either (was raised Baptist)...and until I really started my spiritual growth, I'd started to regard many rites used in that sect of Christianity as "cult-like" because of the chanting, the incense, the many statues people use to pray under, lots of things done that could be considered "pagan". I had to totally laugh when I came to understand how many aspects were indeed linked to improved spirituality (except the Pope part of it).

There is a lot of that from the OT too. Anoiting with oil, cleansing with hyssop too, gems of the vest of the High Priest, etc. I don't do any of it; it's just interesting to note how many "new age" people are doing some really old things.

They may be wrong about the Pope being infallible, I don't know. But he seems to really have some sweet spirit about him. Some priests are like that too.

Originally Posted by Starsigns

So one is conscious and the other isn't- but it's possible.

Where are you now on that spiritual path? Are you using your gifts?

[Starsigns]

Originally Posted by NightSpirit

There is a lot of that from the OT too. Anoiting with oil, cleansing with hyssop too, gems of the vest of the High Priest, etc. I don't do any of it; it's just interesting to note how many "new age" people are doing some really old things.

They may be wrong about the Pope being infallible, I don't know. But he seems to really have some sweet spirit about him. Some priests are like that too.

I was just referring to installation of the Pope (not the actual guy himself). More comments on OT below.

Where are you now on that spiritual path? Are you using your gifts?

Well, I'm about 79% done it seems. (I'm a gifted dowser, so I'm pretty good with rating things). But along this journey, I've re-accessed gifts I didn't know I had, learned that many things in the OT and NT are actually based on Wise knowledge of how to meditate and connect to God, seen angels and walked with Jesus in my Mind's eye, figured out my Purpose (changing career to Dr. of Naturopathy from engineering), learned about why I had certain illnesses and been Guided on how to fix them, delved into the impact of past lives and know where I had the other ones on Earth (yes! explains my facination with Native American things, etc.), understand a lot about the Other Side now(I've also learned I'm clairaudient to fault!, clairkinetic, clairvoyant), seen and felt the impact of Dark influences spiritually and phsycially (boy do I EVER know that one), understand what prayer means and "the REAL Secret", and more.

How'd I get going and how long? Well, I was trying to work on a health/cosmetic issue..which led to dowsing..which led to where and what I'm doing now. Started dowsing in 2004..spritual journey 2006 along with some other "friends" (knew them in previous lives..and they are all Gifted in this lifetime too..and we all learned "late" what we really had). Dowsing was my basic connection to everything..so to help others with understanding what it's really about- I wrote a summary about "stuff" to help debunk the paganistic rep dowsing/psychics have been given. What is Dowsing.

BTW, I'm most DEF using my gifts...teaching others and developing alternative health products and solutions.

SS'