Sleep paralysis

[mattsonn]

Hi, my name is Matt, this is my first post here!

I saw in one of the older threads that some of you get sleep paralysis. I do too, and I just wanted to dedicate a thread to it so that we can share experiences.

I've been getting SP periodically since 9th grade in high school or so. Sometimes I'll get it a few times a week, and sometimes I'll go for months without.

Other info about my experiences:

* Can happen in any sleep position, but lying on my back is pretty much asking for it.
* The transition from being awake and normal to paralyzed takes maybe a second. Often it'll happen without me being aware of it until I try to move something.
* Once it's happened, I'm completely paralyzed from the neck down and 99% paralyzed above the neck. Can move tongue and jaw a little. Can crack eyelids open briefly sometimes.
* On the other hand, it becomes incredibly easy to pretend to move something. Many times, I will have sworn that I just moved my arm or rolled over, only to recieve sensory data a few seconds later that I didn't.
* Usually I will try to fight it with no success. If I'm close enough to my arm, I will try to bite it, which sometimes gets me out of it. Usually I just have to wait in discomfort for it to end.
* I will feel completely 100% conscious when it's happening, but when I try counting numbers to pass the time, it's hard for me to me to keep track (wait, am I really at 50 already?)
* If I'm stuck in that state for long enough, I'll often start hallucinating or slip in and out of dreams. When I wake up, sometimes it'll take a few seconds for the "dream chemicals" to clear my mind, and I'll briefly be able to see stuff that isn't really there (like lines forming on the wall or something)
* I never feel any sense of evil during SP. I don't feel fear either unless I'm on my back and having a hard time breathing. Still, it's an unpleasant experience and it feels unnatural. Like it's caused by a slight chemical imbalance in my brain. My mom had it too, but no one else so it's probably a recessive gene.

PARANORMAL?
* It's common for me to get the buzzing feeling while in SP.
* Once, early in high school, I "felt a presence" in my head ask me something along the lines if I wanted to be introduced to OBE's or not. I was too scared to answer, so I thought nothing, and eventually the presence left. The only reason why I haven't completely discounted that to imagination is because I've haven't been asked that since. Many times since then, I've tried to make myself have an OBE only to be completely stopped as if my body was like a ceiling.
* Also, it's common for me to go into REM immediately upon actually falling asleep.
* As with SP, it feels unnatural when this happens, the dream will have a vivid surreal quality to it, and I'll usually wake up after it ends before settling into a normal sleep pattern.
* Usually, there's absolutely no negativity in this dream, just 20-30 seconds of surreallness.
* Two or three times over the past several years, I have encountered beings in this initial dream that gave me extreme, raw terror. At least a notch above a bad nightmare. And what really separates them from an ordininary nightmare is that instead of being a mishmash of mixed up events, the dream will be very simple, short, and directed. While typing this, I started to describe my most recent one (happened about a year or two ago), but I stopped and erased it because I was getting serious chills just thinking about it. It's as vivid now as when it happened. This is the only reason why I don't completely scoff at Steve and Erin's encounters with evil beings.

[Erin Pavlina]

Hi Mattsonn,

What you're describing was a very common occurence for me in high school and still somewhat today as well.

when you're in the paralyzed state you can astral project. That's a good launching state for it. Body can't move, but ethereal body can.

Being asking you if you wanted help is consistent with my first experience

Encountering beings in that state is normal as well. PM me your experience if you don't want to discuss publicly and I'll be happy to hear it.

[mattsonn]

Erin gave me a good tip on astral projections: try to project yourself well away from your body, because the closer you are, the more you want to go back in it.

I tried it last night, but I messed up! I was lying on my back, waiting for sleep to come. I was paying so much attention to my body, that I could specifically feel the changes that were about to happen that would lead to SP:

* the small muscles in my body started to involuntarily relax (like the jaw of my mouth opening, etc)
* I coulf feel the circulation in my hands being reduced.
* I still felt completely awake, and my heart rate was still pretty high, which are tell-tale signs that you're about to go into SP.

Within seconds of getting my chance, I felt that my right hand, which was behind my neck to help support my head on the pillow, was getting it's circulation cut off and it was uncomfortable. Since the last thing you want to do is become paralyzed in an uncomfortable position, I reflexively moved my arm to the side of my body. Whoops, that snapped me right out of it. Feeling more comfortable, I patiently awaited for it to happen again. But instead, half an hour later, I got sleepy and just fell into a normal sleep on my back.

I'll try it again tonight. If it doesn't work again, then I just won't update until it does.

[Erin Pavlina]

Yes let us know what happens.

[JVR]

Hi Matt

I have regularly SP, although not as often as you (I think on average once a month for over 10 years now). A lot of your experiences sound familiar, like when I´m really fighting the SP I can be sure that I moved my arm, but when I wake up it proves to be an illusion.

I have only once had a negative experience and it was this morning (That´s why I went to this forum and found your thread ). I had SP and was shaking all over my body. I was sleeping alone, but suddenly I heard a women´s voice next to me talking to me. She said matter of factly:"You´re having a lot of nasty dreams lately, don´t you?" What really scared me on this was that the voice came outside of me and sounded really real, although at the same time I knew for sure that it could not be real. Also I heard noises coming from the other site of me, as if someone else was also in my room. So I fought to get out of the SP to be able to open my eyes and see what was there, but off course to no avail. At last I used Erin´s technique to guard yourself with bright shining light and a few moments later I woke up (with a splitting headache). Anyway, it was an unpleasant experience, but it was only the first I ever encountered. Maybe Erin or other experienced psychics can say if it is just my imagination running wild or something else?

Jeroen

[Erin Pavlina]

These experiences are referred to as hypnogogic (sp?) hallucinations. They are reported frequently. They happen during sleep paralysis, usually in the morning. You hear people in your house, in your room, on your bed. You can even feel someone on the bed with you moving around. You would swear they are really there but when you finally break free of the paralysis, they disappear and there is no evidence that they were ever there.

[JVR]

Thanks for the clarification Erin! So I´m sane after all...

Jeroen

[Erin Pavlina]

Oh I didn't say you were sane. hahaha, just kidding.

I personally believe there is more to the experience than meets the eye, but I'm not clear on what it is exactly so I don't want to comment on it just yet.

I experience this a lot and sometimes it's disjointed and sometimes it's very very clear and there is a total relevant conversation going on around me.

[WanderingOak]

Interesting. I have had hypnogogic halucinations before, but did not know what they were. Usually, it is a sensation of something in the bed with me. I usually dismiss it, thinking it is the cat, until I realize that the cat is either outside or in another room of the house. At first, I thought it was a 'ghost cat' or something along those lines. I've never experience 'paralasys' per se, although often when this happens, I just choose not to move.

[mattsonn]

JVR, I've had that occasionally too.

[Jill]

I had that happen once. I was sleeping late one morning and could have sworn I heard my daughter come home from school and put a tv on. It was like 9 or 10 am and definitely no reason why she would have, but I thought I was awake and heard her. When I tried to turn or get up or something, I realized I was paralyzed. Somehow, I managed to force my body to turn itself over, and that woke me up for real.

I sat up and listened in the house to hear if anyone was actually home, but it was all quiet as it should have been! Was really weird. Hasn't happened before or since...not that I remember.

[glitterkitty]

I'm a little confused about the posts on sleep paralysis. Basically is it a good or bad thing?!

Other people have posted their experiences but no real answer or explanation is provided about :

1.) What the noises in the ear are about: As in the buzzing noises and the sound of electricity. Also sometimes its like you are tuning into a frequency by radio dial?

2.) Who are these entities you feel moving around you on your bed and what do they want?

3.) Do these entities come freely because they are attracted to low vibration? or has some one summoned them on to you like black magic?

4.) what has astral projection have to do with any of this?!

5.) When you are just about to nod off into deep sleep u suddenly jerk..this can be leg or arm movement. Is this an entity not letting you go to sleep and trying to disturb you from having any peace?

6) If there is a way to protect yourself from anything evil how do i do that visualisation of the protective white light?..how and when do i do it?

Sorry if you may think i've repeated some questions but i just wanted some straight answers!

I'd appreciate any feedback.. Thank you

[chrisfeger]

I've lucid dreamed maybe twice in my life. Once was incidental. Once was intentional, although it did not last for long and I did not pre-program the settings or anything like that.

This thread interested me because now-a-days (I'm 22) I experience sleep-paralysis a lot. I can't remember the first time I experienced it but I think was around 11 years old, and it has happened while I was sleeping in the car on a family trip out to the west from my home state, Michigan.

I just took a nap and had sleep paralysis happen to me a few times! (causing my nap to be very fragmented with all the waking up I had to do from a state of paralysis) It seems like it is more likely to happen in the morning when I wake up at 6:30 then go back to sleep, or when I take a nap during the day.

I've never astral projected before. That must be a special experience. I wonder is it possible to meet my spirit guides or higher self if I try to astrally project? I would think that this would be a great way of contacting them if so!

[bamzone81]

hey ive had that happen to me but when it happened i thought i was awake cuz everything was the same. i was on my couch and i was talkin to someone bout alice cooper (idk y prolly cuz my dream was bout him and the rest of the band lol) and i told the guy to leave me alone cuz i wanted to sleep so i tried to go on my side but i felt something push down on my shoulder when i tried to move and felt somethin like holdin me down and i couldnt move and i was shakin so i tried to force myself to get up and when i did it was like i was sleep walkin yet consious. idk if this is relevant to what happened to you but it scared the crap out of me and after that it was only my arms or legs that sometimes i couldnt move. does anyone know y this happens??? gosh i just read some of the other replys and it seems like they mostly happen in the morning except the first one i had happened at 3 am and i think a different one did to..... but i did hav one at like 10am.

[aggie]

i have experienced sleep paralysis many times....sometimes at close intervals...sometimes months and months in between.

unfortunately, they are usually frightening experiences. as was mentioned in another thread about sp...i usually would pray or use the name of Jesus to break the sp.

this will usually work because i feel that i am usually in a vulnerable emotional or psychological state when i have the sp...and feel that there is an evil presence during them.

i have experienced the buzzing in the head, the feeling that something was holding me down, that there was a presence in the room...kind of a shadowy figure, that there was movement in the bed..one time like something was trying to lift me off the bed.

regardless i have always felt that if i did not break the sp that something horrible would happen to me.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by glitterkitty

I'm a little confused about the posts on sleep paralysis. Basically is it a good or bad thing?!

Other people have posted their experiences but no real answer or explanation is provided about :

1.) What the noises in the ear are about: As in the buzzing noises and the sound of electricity. Also sometimes its like you are tuning into a frequency by radio dial?

There is a threshold between physical and astral, and it requires effort to breach this threshold. In between the threshold, you will experience static or vibrational discord. Its like the difference in vibration between the wavelength of the color yellow and the color green. On the one hand, they gradually fade into each other. On the other, there is an easily identifiable difference between the two. To cross a vibrational threshold, you have to "become" of that vibration. When your current vibration does not match the destination vibration, you feel the difference (read: friction) between the thresholds strongly.

Originally Posted by glitterkitty

2.) Who are these entities you feel moving around you on your bed and what do they want?

Energy? Food? Attention? Who knows? They could be hallucinations or they could be astral beings displaying a particular image or another for an infinitude of probable reasons.

Originally Posted by glitterkitty

3.) Do these entities come freely because they are attracted to low vibration? or has some one summoned them on to you like black magic?

They not summoned upon you, its more like: you get tossed in the water, it creates ripples, and the ripples alert surrounding lifeforms to your presence. The fish get curious, so to speak.

Originally Posted by glitterkitty

4.) what has astral projection have to do with any of this?!

In my opinion, sleep paralysis is your consciousness dissociating from your physical apparatus, which renders it immobile until the mind/brain connection is reestablished.

Originally Posted by glitterkitty

5.) When you are just about to nod off into deep sleep u suddenly jerk..this can be leg or arm movement. Is this an entity not letting you go to sleep and trying to disturb you from having any peace?

No. It is the feeling of your astral body slamming back into alignment with your physical because you became aware of separation from it (which feels like a trap door opened up underneath you), and it scared you back to full consciousness.

Originally Posted by glitterkitty

6) If there is a way to protect yourself from anything evil how do i do that visualisation of the protective white light?..how and when do i do it?

You consciousness is a magnet/filter for experience. This is even more important to consider in more energetically malleable realities, like the astral plane. The best protection is to make your consciousness vibrationally incompatible with darkness or self serving energy. This is what makes white light visualization helpful.

Contemplating anything that invokes the positive thoughtforms will naturally serve to make you less compatible with the negative thoughtform vibrations. Anything that invokes emotions of love, happiness, confidence, compassion, appreciation, or acceptance will help raise you up.

[ns123]

One thing that works for me is prayer.

I have a prayer that I say that helps me feel powerful and in control. It also helps me relax my mind, calm my body, and therefore, I can wake myself up.

I have experienced SP for many years now, and still do now. I live with it and I am not afraid of sleep any more. I discovered this prayer all on my own, but normally, the prayers that work have to do with faith and love. A very strong enduring love... and I can normally break free within a few seconds.

See if you can try prayer if you just want to cope with it and not explore further.

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by WanderingOak

Interesting. I have had hypnogogic halucinations before, but did not know what they were. Usually, it is a sensation of something in the bed with me. I usually dismiss it, thinking it is the cat, until I realize that the cat is either outside or in another room of the house. At first, I thought it was a 'ghost cat' or something along those lines. I've never experience 'paralasys' per se, although often when this happens, I just choose not to move.

I get that all the time. I have three cats, so it is easy to chalk it up that it is them. Each cat has it's own pace and step and I can usually identify which one it is, without looking. Sometimes, I cannot, and when I look up to see which cat it is..there is no cat there.

Sometimes, it happens and I could swear it is my one cat Jack Otis. Those are the times I will get up and locate the cat and he is always in a deep sleep in a cupboard or something, when I do find him.

This is the only experience, so I am not going to say it is hynogogic or anything to do with sleep paralysis. I am curious, if Cats can astrally travel from their sleeping bodies the way that people can. That is really what it feels like, to me. (It seems like Jack Otis can do this, but it never feels like Pudge or Sissy, the other two cats...ever.)

anyone feel this is possible??

Blessings,
Rebecca

[Albalida]

I am curious, if Cats can astrally travel from their sleeping bodies the way that people can ... anyone feel this is possible??

! I used to have hallucinatory sleep paralysis since I was a child. Worse than nightmares. The first time I wasn't afraid, was because I saw all the street cats I took into my room-- who weren't in my room at the time-- crawling on top of my paralyzed body, sniffing my paralyzed face, and miaowing as if to say, "Are you all right??" It was kind of funny and comforting.

Just one other time, after I learned to initiate out-of-body experiences, I found myself in a strange kitchen. Erm, anyone else read accounts of astral projectors suddenly getting really... er... amorous? Like, uncharacteristically, illogically so? I had that too, but later-- for this one, I was just uncharacteristically, illogically mischievous and malignant. Basically I tried to become more ghostlike and appear as a frightening apparition to waking physical people.

I was stopped by my sister's cat appearing in this strange kitchen with me, and sitting on my face.

[MillenniumMike]

I have a way to escape sleep paralysis, I have had it for years and this is my primary method.

It only works if you are sleeping next to someone. While you are stuck you still can control your breathing patterns. Speed up your breathing pattern to sound like something is wrong, my girlfriend always wakes up and snaps me out of it.

[adrianap]

This happens to me periodically, but it has become more and more rare over the years, it now occurs every six months or so. However, I believe I started this when I was a teen and I was fascinated with OBEs and wanted to have them. I used to practice - lay in bed, relax every muscle, and try to stay conscious, repeating all the time in my mind that I will be able to travel out of the body and stay awake while during that. Well, tried for months, and nothing happened, so I quit. Few months later, I started having these sleep experiences - I wake up, totally awake, cannot move, I see in the room with my eyes closed! I know it was not imagining, because when I did wake up for real, I saw the same things that I saw with my eyes closed - my husband sleeping on one side, the light falling a certain way. So I am unable to move, totally awake, eyes closed but I can see, and I feel a powerful force like a vacuum trying to suck me out of my body. My whole body vibrates with strong electricity, but it feels too painful to actually "leave" my body. Other times I feel like I am sitting up or moving an arm, but I am not, my body still lies there in bed. Other times I feel a clear kick - someone or something kicks my leg! Other times I hear voices and noises. And one time I felt inundated by this feeling of love of God that you could not possibly experience in real life, it was beyond my daily human life limit of feeling love.
I am so glad to hear in this forum that I am not the only one! Has anyone actually had those strong vibrations and feeling that they are sucked out of their body, and actually managed to float away? I would love to know what happens next - it feels scary to let go and actually float, what if you never return?

[joelr]

I try to get into this state EVERY night. I always fall asleep

It worked for me once years ago but the terror from the energy buzzing in my chest caused me to abort mission!
Now I can't get back.

[Jon Tore]

First, when I started to get sleep paralysis many times a week in January, this year, I didn't know what was going on. I eventually told my parents, when I got it almost every night, and we ended up with doctors who didn't have a clue, who sent me to experts who didn't know. (Well he said that there most likely was a disturbance in the sleep stages for some reason, which is quite correct)
I got tested for epilepsy, and took magnetic X-ray of my brain, but it was nothing. So after some months my parents forgot about it, and I just accepted it. Actually, I never really wanted to get rid of it, I liked it in some way. Made me feel special and all that Then I talked to someone on the internet who told me to wiki sleep paralysis. Then youtube, then google, then Steve Pavlina.

Nowadays it happens periodically. The experience itself is most often being unable to move and that buzzing noise. After finding out about sleep paralysis and astral projection possibility, the buzzing noise was no longer just a normal buzzing noise. It went insane, amazingly high in pitch and it sounded like... something going from a high pitch to a superhigh pitch until it's about to explode. Pretty cool! Then the mini projections started (eyes closed). It was just like the feeling of floating up and rotating. I've also consciously moved to other positions and open my eyes to see the other way around with my physical eyes. But I've never seen anything with my eyes closed.

I've had 1 or 2 scary experiences. The one I remember clearly is where I was lying on my stomach, when I was paralysed waking up from a dream about the devil, feeling really intense evilness stream through my body as well as a frightening pump organ sound repeating 3 times from my chest.
Other than that, I've had some interesting experiences in paralysis, such as senseless lyrics or text scrolling before my eyes in high speed and being forced to read it. (Senseless, as in the words "Harry Potter" included, along with lots and lots of weird stuff I don't remember). I also had a funny experience recently which I posted in a thread (I became a puppy and was forced to play out the dream while hearing weird stuff, while being awake and seeing physically)

So for me, I don't wanna get rid of it, but I want more !

[shapeshift6]

Hi my name is Peter and this is my first ever post. I have been suffering with sleep paralysis for as long as i can remember.There are times when i could slip in and out of the paralysed phase up to 10 or 11 times before i get to sleep fully.

I have experienced everything that people have mentioned here. These episodes are always very uncomfortable and sometimes completely terrifying. I always have the sense that there is an evil presence in the room and i feel extremely vunerable. Recently i have learned to control these episodes by taking long deep breaths when things start to get very intense.

I have had a few experiences which made me never want to fall asleep again. Once i heard (what i believed to be an evil spirit) shouting things at me in a language which i didn't understand, and the 'old hag' was quite common place in my early experiences.

Anyone experience things such as that? I try talking to some friends about it but they have never experienced it so they have no idea how scary it actually can be.

[aggie]

mattsonn,

just about everything you experienced with sp...i have.

it happened more in my teens and early twenties...

has happened sporadically over the years, mostly when feeling vulnerable or really stressed and confused about my life situation at a particular time.

maybe for that reason, every sp experience has been a terrifying one for me.

i had one obe when i was in my late teen, early 20's that was absolutely horrible...i felt it as a physical experience...not really painful but uncomfortable and scarey with little control over it.

in all cases, because i was "weak"...i felt open to evil trying to "take me over" or harm me.

[Sanchenuss]

Originally Posted by shapeshift6

Hi my name is Peter and this is my first ever post. I have been suffering with sleep paralysis for as long as i can remember.There are times when i could slip in and out of the paralysed phase up to 10 or 11 times before i get to sleep fully.

I have experienced everything that people have mentioned here. These episodes are always very uncomfortable and sometimes completely terrifying. I always have the sense that there is an evil presence in the room and i feel extremely vunerable. Recently i have learned to control these episodes by taking long deep breaths when things start to get very intense.

I have had a few experiences which made me never want to fall asleep again. Once i heard (what i believed to be an evil spirit) shouting things at me in a language which i didn't understand, and the 'old hag' was quite common place in my early experiences.

Anyone experience things such as that? I try talking to some friends about it but they have never experienced it so they have no idea how scary it actually can be.

Yeah. One night I had a choir of dead children screaming in my ears. Not fun. To my knowledge I am not a bad person but most sp experiences to me,if not all of them, have seemed very evil. I don't understand how these spirits would be allowed to torture me like this because I believe in God and of course he would have control over them. When I ask God to protect me, it does eventually but I don't understand why sp is initiated in the first place. It is possible that maybe it is a line of communication with God but any spirits are allowed to interfere and you never encounter any good spirits because the evil ones are located on earth and I never rise above that level. I think though that sp is when evil spirits are allowed to attack you at your most vunerable moment since most cultures all associate sp with being malevolent.

I have left my body before during this but nothing extrodinary has happened other than the sensation of floating. Once I floated about 30 feet from my body, became cold and went back because I was scared that I couldn't return. I have also left my body and descended under the floor into darkness. I have also experienced extreme physical pain usually piercing through the side of my chest during SP. I am saddened that I and others have to go through this and wish that there was a reason that surfaced. I can actually say that I have gone long periods without it occuring but I recently had a bad sp the other night. About 12 years ago in high school, I would have it almost everynight. I actually started going to bed intoxicated because when I did this the sp subsided.

[nonlocality]

I have been having Sleep Parlysis for a few years now. I am now 24.

I remember the first time I had it it scared me near to death. My mind awoke during sleep, and it felt like someone was moving over, towards me, and I couldn't move to get away. I am not easily scared but I looked it up on the net and discovered more about SP.

After this, I had SP experiences where I had lucidly felt like I had fallen off of my bed, and was crawling around on the floor, but with everything blurred, or if you were super drunk and time was massively distorting and I was disorientated. Once I felt myself crawling over my bedroom floor, exiting my room and falling down the stairs. This wasn't just like a normal dream, even like SP, but my mind thought I was -actually- moving around and I was scared that if I wasn't dreaming not to hurt myself. I was scared of falling out of a window or something or bashing into something in my room. Other times I just fall out of bed and manage to struggle with myself to wake me up from the experience. This, the scariest most vivid type of dream I have had happened a few times about 6 years ago. I slept walked a couple of times during this period too, each time I had been out drinking the night before, once I opened my parents bedroom door startling them, and told them I was going to the pub (this was about 6am), then apparently I just walked back to my bed and back to sleep.

Since then I have encountered sleep paralysis a fair bit in the last 6 years. Sometimes I get it once or twice a week, but sometimes go a couple of weeks or months without it. It usually occurs as I am drifting off to sleep in the morning, having already woken, and as I'm trying to get back to sleep, that is prime time for REM and SP, especially if I'm laying on my back. Sometimes I get it literally every time I start to fall asleep for about 3 or 4 times, and then either have to get up from bed or lay on my side to get rid of it. When I get it now, I realise I'm in an SP state, and basiclaly just try as hard as I can to open my eyes. Sometimes this can be very frustrating, sometimes scary as I can't breathe but because I know I'm in SP it just gets annoying now. I usually get it more when I am not smoking marijuana. I have found that smoking marijuana makes me alot less prone to SP, strange/scary dreams, lucid dreams, sleep walking and nightmares.

When I am next in SP, I would like to explore it a bit further. I think I am ready. I read up alot about this subject and people with similar experiences when it first happened to me, but I am interested in being able to control a dream, or astral project if you will. and OBE would be fine too.

Thanks, Darren. UK.

[modernthing]

for those experiencing "evil" feelings while having SP, dunno if this can help, but I've found out using drugs and drinking alcohol can reinforce that.

There was a time when I'd smoke plenty of weed, and I'd have these very vivid dreams (which I am certain were *NOT* dreams at all - not to mention the very unpleasant anxious dreams I'd get daily because of grass) where I was fighting my way out of places filled with horrible, nightmarish evil entities (I'd find my way out of those situations using prayers) and all this stopped when I quit smoking. I have had weird stuff happening to me after a few drinks too, so this is definitely linked. If you are tryingt to get more experience in regard to OBE and SP, avoiding these can reduce the spooky horrible looking stuff

[joedh1992]

i have had sleep porblems the same has urs and i have encoutnerd begins befor and it frightend the living ************************* out of me lol but i stopded geting it cus i do not sleep now so um i cant really help to much but i can give u soem of my expirinces with these outher world things that i looked etc

[cacheborn]

Interesting discussion. I did not know that SP was connected to Astral projections. I have been getting SP since childhood and it always terrifies me. So I guess if I am hoping to Astral Project some day, I will have to overcome the fear of SP.

It does not occur so frequently now a days. What has been happening lately is I am in a half-asleep state and I feel a presence. I wake up and there is no one. Sometimes it frightens me, sometimes I am curious.