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Old 03-26-2008, 11:57 PM
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Ok, I am hearing a lot about positive/negative energy or good/bad vibes on this forum and I have no idea what the heck is going on.

I realize I am somewhat ignorant about this so please, someone explain it to me.

I have no idea what these energy or vibes are, so tell me what are they. Give me the basics. I am really lost on this energy thing. Is it the same energy you feel while say, do something exciting(or as Steve Pavlina put it, riding the wave).

I am so confused about this matter that I don't even know how to pose this question, hope you understand.

P.S I'm 14.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:16 AM
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Verbors -- I am so glad you asked these questions. And you are only 14?!? You are so far ahead of the game, to recognize that you don't know what you don't know (and what some people just pretend to know, so they won't be caught not knowing!).

Riding the wave, being in the zone, feeling good, chilling out. Asking questions that make a difference, not only for yourself, but also for others who are no doubt wondering the same thing. Being bold and courageous and acknowledging that there is so much in the world that you could use in your toolbox for creating what you want to create. I really acknowledge YOU for making the foray into the world of what we don't know that we don't know.

Lots and lots of love to you. You are at the cutting edge.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:19 AM
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Verbors -- yeah, you're right -- ignorant and really lost and confused, that's what you are alright. At age 14 you should really be far more advanced; you should know what people are talking about when they spout this stuff. What's wrong with you? I don't even understand why you bother to ask these questions. Get a grip.
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Old 03-27-2008, 01:25 AM
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Oooops! I meant to follow up on these disparate responses right away, but I got called away.... I'm so sorry, Verbors! (and anyone else who was confused!)

My first response is my authentic response -- I really do feel nothing but admiration for you for taking on questions that make a difference. Some people never look so boldly at questions like these. It felt really good to write that one to you.

The second response was my exercise in writing from a point of view of bad vibes/negative energy (and was absolutely not authentic! Not what I really feel at all!) and it felt absolutely awful. Even worse that it sat there for awhile without explanation. I'm sorry about that.

My purpose was just to experiment with how easy it is to feel good/express good energy/positive vibes vs. how difficult it is (and how harmful!) to give myself over to that other stuff. It's not new-agey and whoo-whoo as you can see. People responded with shock and disapproval, and those feelings are real, practical and impactful. Again, I'm so sorry that my experiment was destructive and potentially hurtful. Please know that I am so with you in your quest, and am sending you all kinds of Green Love with the desire to make it up to you.

This "good/bad vibe" stuff -- you'll be exposed to it throughout your whole life, as I have, and everyone else. And the one thing to remember is: whatever anyone says or does to you or thinks about you, it does not mean anything about you. Just like here, it's just what I was generating, (which was awful! What was I thinking!?) and I can see how much better it feels to generate positive energy than negative. I wish that for you, too.

So basically what I was experimenting with was:

Positive energy = feels good, all around
Negative energy = feels bad, all around!

That's that about that.

Lots of love,
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Great examples! Just goes to show how anyone can spin a situation in a subjective way if they want to.
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Verbors, let me toss something into this mix as well.

The way I figure it, everything that we feel, see, hear, smell, or taste is really just an illusion. Atoms - the smallest known particles of matter that still retain the properties of an element - are like 99.99% space. Molecules are made of atoms. Everything else that we perceive in the physical world is made of molecules. Water, air, US, even SMELLS...everything. So, in essence, everything that we perceive with our normal senses is 99.99% space - it's not really "there". It's like looking at clouds from an airplane. They LOOK solid enough to walk on, but we "know" they're not. The rings of Saturn when seen through a telescope LOOK pretty substantial - but they're mostly dust and pieces of pea-sized gravel spaced miles apart.

So that leads to the question, "If what we perceive isn't really there, what is?"

Answer: Energy/Spirit/Source/God/Vibrations.... there's a thousand different words for what it is, but in the end, it's the only "Truth". It's what the Lakhota call "The Great Mystery" or what the Toltecs call The Nagual.

When people talk about "energy" or "vibrations", they're talking about how they experience the stuff that our normal perceptions can't: that stuff inbetween the Protons, Electrons, and Neutrons. The stuff that is REAL.

Like Angela, I'm very pleased that someone as young as you is taking the time to really ask this question. My own Daughter is ten, and having lived with me her whole life, she gets it a little, but for someone to step up at 14 and say, "Um...excuse me...but what the HECK are guys talking about??" to me shows immense personal integrity.

I hope this helped a little. If not, keep asking the question - because in the end, the answer is a LOT less important than the fact that you are asking it.

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Ok, I am hearing a lot about positive/negative energy or good/bad vibes on this forum and I have no idea what the heck is going on.

I realize I am somewhat ignorant about this so please, someone explain it to me.

I have no idea what these energy or vibes are, so tell me what are they. Give me the basics. I am really lost on this energy thing. Is it the same energy you feel while say, do something exciting(or as Steve Pavlina put it, riding the wave).

I am so confused about this matter that I don't even know how to pose this question, hope you understand.

P.S I'm 14.
First of all, like Angela praised you for (and listen to her, she rocks!), being 14 and asking these questions and being here on this forum is just so wonderful. And I don't mean to be condescending by saying, "wow! you're only 14!" It's not a "oh how cute!" by all of us that say that, it's more, "Wow! I wish I asked these questions when I was 14" kind of thing. Appreciation. Respect.

From what I remember (14 is half my life ago) everything is kind of jumbled up and presented as 'reality' to you. It's hard to separate emotions from reality, as much as it is to separate other people's emotions from your own experience.

Have you ever met someone and just felt comfortable? Or, the opposite--you meet someone and are immediately set off? In the latter example, you might think, "What's his/her problem?"

If not, who do you feel comfortable talking to? At 14 or at 28 or at 78 there are people we feel comfortable opening up to. That would mean you're getting a good energy from them. Or maybe you go somewhere--maybe it's a school tour (when and if you visit colleges you'll see what I mean) or a cafe or a concert, and you immediately feel comfortable and/or inspired? Or, maybe the opposite? Sometimes you go somewhere--it might be a coffee shop, or a teacher's class--and you instinctively feel one way or the other.

Listen to your feelings. Trust them.
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Old 03-30-2008, 03:59 PM
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Had to read that a few times but I think I understand . Thanks Angela for the great example.

Basically, words doesn't have an impact on things but the energy you put behind the words will. Like if a robot went "I love you", there isn't any energy behind the words therefore you probably wouldn't feel anything. However, if your relative or friends went "I love you", there would be the energy of love behind it therefore you will feel emotion towards the speaker.

If you tell someone you love them, look at them lovingly or touch them lovingly, the energy would still be the same. It's not the form of communication used but the energy behind the medium. Is that right?

That's probably how you just know that somebody is lying. Negative energy.
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That's probably how you just know that somebody is lying. Negative energy.

Learn to notice not just the energy, but also how it manifests. If someone is saying "I love you" with negative energy, it usually manifests in their body language. They may have their arms crossed, or maybe not looking at you and scowling. On the other hand, if they do look into your eyes affectionately, or extend a hand, that is showing positive energy. Positive and negative energy show themselves differently with different people, but its all from the same thing. Body language (and generally anything silent) is very powerful.
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