Astral Projection, I would like to do it again.

[Joeschmoe]

Several months ago I had a spontaneous Astral travel experience. I had been looking into it and I think I put out an intention to do it. I've wanted to do it again since then. I believe it could be a gateway to change, and I'm sure I'm supposed to do it again.

Last night I gave it a shot and had an interesting and frustrating experience. I let myself get to that point in sleep where my thoughts start getting random and spontaneous (I don't know how else to describe it), then i intervened and pictured my hands pulling me up a rope out of my body. I was starting to get there but something was holding me back. I felt the buzzing that i felt before but my heart started racing to an almost unbearable point. Also I was far to conscious and aware of the physical world, far too much it seems.

On another note it seems that I can manifest things that I intend only a few times and then I somehow ruin it. I manifested my first astral journey. I also manifested being able to wake up immediately with my alarm, but I think i got too involved in both and was only able to keep that up for 3 days. I somehow sabotaged both of them.

Can anyone give suggestions? Are there any good resources i could explore to be able to do this again?

I find that this is a recurring theme in my life. Things come ot me very easily at first, but then they are difficult to continue or replicate.

How do I get out of my own way?

[Erin Pavlina]

As for the astral projection, try doing the same rope pulling trick but at the end of a sleep cycle as you're coming out of sleep instead of on your way in.

[Barcs]

I've heard that the rope pulling works pretty well, although I still haven't had success with it. I feel like I'm so close every time, but after pulling up the rope high enough I just can't go any further. Usually my body is almost completely numb from sleep paralysis at this point. I'm kind of waiting to lose more weight and get fit before getting into AP again (I've read that your health is very important for it to work), although it's definitely one of my goals for the next few years. That's an interesting suggestion, Erin. I'll have to give that a shot.

Hey Joe, do you have lucid dreams often? If so, I've read that while in this state, your spirit does pop out of the body. Supposedly if you look at your hands and focus you will exit the dream state and actually be in the astral realm.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Joeschmoe

Several months ago I had a spontaneous Astral travel experience. I had been looking into it and I think I put out an intention to do it. I've wanted to do it again since then. I believe it could be a gateway to change, and I'm sure I'm supposed to do it again.

Last night I gave it a shot and had an interesting and frustrating experience. I let myself get to that point in sleep where my thoughts start getting random and spontaneous (I don't know how else to describe it), then i intervened and pictured my hands pulling me up a rope out of my body. I was starting to get there but something was holding me back. I felt the buzzing that i felt before but my heart started racing to an almost unbearable point. Also I was far to conscious and aware of the physical world, far too much it seems.

On another note it seems that I can manifest things that I intend only a few times and then I somehow ruin it. I manifested my first astral journey. I also manifested being able to wake up immediately with my alarm, but I think i got too involved in both and was only able to keep that up for 3 days. I somehow sabotaged both of them.

Can anyone give suggestions? Are there any good resources i could explore to be able to do this again?

I find that this is a recurring theme in my life. Things come ot me very easily at first, but then they are difficult to continue or replicate.

How do I get out of my own way?

On the topic of beginners luck, you might find this interesting joeschmoe.

A wikipedia article:

When someone with limited experience achieves better than expected results it is referred to as beginner's luck. The term is most often used in reference to a first attempt in sport or gambling. For example, if Mike beats veteran golf player Joe in his first game, Joe might attribute this to beginner's luck. Beginner's luck can also be applicable to non-sporting activities. For example, if Susan takes first prize in her first ever baking contest, she might have had beginner's luck. The term is also used when no skill whatsoever is involved, such as a first-time slot machine player winning the jackpot.

One would expect experienced players to outperform novices - when the opposite happens it is counter-intuitive, hence the need for a term to describe this phenomenon.

The causes for beginner's luck are unknown. It is speculated, however, that beginner's luck arises from a disconnect between the player and the pressure of the game. A novice player is inexperienced and consequently is not expected to do well. This means that there is no pressure on the player to excel; this lack of pressure allows the player to concentrate more than a pressured veteran player. This goes against the Rosenthal effect which states that students who are expected to perform better usually perform better.

Beginner's luck is thought to end once a player gets involved with a game. Once the "innocent" psychological mindset is replaced by one that is concerned with the nuances of the game, concentration goes out the window and skill level decreases.

So my advice is to not put pressure on yourself, play, and have fun. It's the best way to learn.

[Rockchick26]

I think this subject is fascinating! I have studied a little bit about lucid dreaming,but not astral projection. I wasn't aware that if you look at your hands in a lucid dream,you could pull yourself into the astral realm. I've had a hell of a time inducing lucid dreams. I THINK i astral traveled once,i was waking up from sleep but didnt quite wake up,i felt the sleep paralysis,and then next thing i knew,i "was" floating in the air on the other side of my room. I couldn't see or feel anything,i just FELT like i wasn't in my body. But i didnt make that happen,it happened on it's own. Can astral projection work that way? Or do you have to purposely TRY to make it happen?

Anyway...i can relate to the "beginners luck" thing...i had great experiences with brainwave cd's the first time i used them,then NOTHING after that. Must be the expectation/pressure to perform thing LOL