Anyone have any interesting Oujia board experiences?

[Jill]

When I was younger, my sister and I used to "play" with the Oujia board and always seemed to communicate with some interesting spirits. Most people I tell don't believe me and think that either she or I were moving the oracle around, but I sure know that I wasn't! I'm 99.9% sure my sister wasn't either. Of course our subconscious' could have been doing it, but either way, it was a lot of fun.

One time we had a discussion with some spirit that said its name was (I think) Seth Greenberg. I don't really recall the actual discussion, but when we were done, there was some show we wanted to watch on TV so we packed up the board and turned on the TV.

The previous show was ending (I believe it was the Lou Grant show...which pretty much dates me!). The credits were rolling and all of a sudden there in the credits as the director or some other thing was the name Seth Greenberg!

Needless to say, we freaked out!

Don't know what it means, but it was interesting, nonetheless.

[Erin Pavlina]

Here's my ouija board story:

Are ouija boards real?

[BillPerry]

There is a guy I work with who told me a couple weeks back that he and some friends decided to "play" the Ouija board, because they got bored (board? lol).

He said he seemed to have connected with the "spirit" of a dead relative, the usual stuff, I guess. Then he told me that later on, he got a message that told the guy he is the "True Lord of Hell".

I'm not sure what to think of that, considering I basically don't believe in demons and Hell.

Bill
Financial Freedom and Practical Spirituality

[Erin Pavlina]

Lower energy beings come through on ouija boards. They like to suck people's energy and give them false and evil sounding messages. Pretty typical actually.

[Jill]

My sister and I had a weird character once on the Oujia which claimed to be the devil.

Funny thing with that one was that he/she/it wasn't actually going to the letters on the oujia board, but instead sort of writing letters through the oracle thingee. Like actually making the shape of an A or a B or whatever.

I had trouble figuring out the letters, but my sister seemed to be able to. (Of course, maybe she was doing it afterall!

[Dolazy]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

Lower energy beings come through on ouija boards. They like to suck people's energy and give them false and evil sounding messages. Pretty typical actually.

I'm a bit confused now. I thought that according to the Abraham-Hicks teachings all non-physical beings are 100% connected to source energy and therefore in a state of peace and joy.

What did I misunderstand? I would greatly appreciate your insights on this.

Francis

[Zach]

It's just me, but I want to stay as far away from Ouija boards as possible

[Erin Pavlina]

Dolazy, you might want to read my blog entry entitled, Does Evil Exist for my take on that.

[Dolazy]

Thanks this clears it up quite a bit. However I'm still a little confused. You write that humans restore their connection to source energy after they die. But the spirit who identified himself as "T" claimed to be someone who was hung for murder in the 1800s (Are ouija boards real?). So was he then a 'lost one' or something?

Francis

[sourceofmiracles]

Originally Posted by Zach

It's just me, but I want to stay as far away from Ouija boards as possible

When I was about 7 I used to have a lot of spiritual experiences. Some of it used to really scare me, because there was not context in which to explain any of it. No one had to tell me about the other side because I just knew it was real PERIOD.

At about that time i saw this movie. You may have heard about it. It was called the Exorcist. Long story short, I do not mess with the darkside AT ALL. Only because I know its real. As I know more, my fear has subsided but I'm still careful about inviting bad things in.

[sourceofmiracles]

Maybe these evil entities are just a manifestation of our own human fears, collected throughout the years and dumped into an ethereal landfill of fear. In that case, we ought to go clean it up. Maybe in time we will.

That is an awesome description. I love that article. I think my own fear has kept me away from a lot of Astral projection. Ironically, it has always facinated me. I hope to do much more in the very near NOW.

[Erin Pavlina]

Dolazy, that assumes the spirits cross over. I've come to understand, from my guides, that the more negative a human is, the less likely they are to want to cross over because they fear that all that is waiting for them is hell or damnation. They fear judgment, so why bother crossing over? They feed off the energy of people on Earth and stick around.

That "T" entity may not have even been telling us the truth.

When I was channeling the entity in the Amargosa hotel for the Criss Angel show I realized after we were talking to him for about 20 minutes that he was lying to keep us around so he could feed off our energy even longer. I even told the investigators and the crew people that we should leave so he couldn't feed on our energy anymore. The entity got really mad at that.

[Dolazy]

What is 'crossing over'? I assume it means going from one place to another. Does it mean 'to die'? (Going from physical to non-physical.)

Anyway thanks a lot Erin for the information. It's very helpful for my understanding of it all.

Heh, now I wonder if these lower-level spirits could raise their vibration to higher levels if they wanted to?

[Erin Pavlina]

Yes, crossing over is when you die and move "into the light" as people say. Some negative entities don't cross over, fearing judgment for their crimes on Earth.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

Yes, crossing over is when you die and move "into the light" as people say. Some negative entities don't cross over, fearing judgment for their crimes on Earth.

Interesting, I've never heard that before. Since I'm assuming that you don't believe in the traditional God as being the one who judges, who do you believe exercises this judgment? Or are you saying that negative entities don't cross over, because they're afraid of a nonexistent judge?

I hope I didn't offend you, I'm just not acquainted with your views on this matter, and I'd greatly appreciate a clarification.

[Erin Pavlina]

Hi Zach,

I think in some cases the entities fear judgment not realizing they are going to judge themselves. I believe we are all pieces of God Source and when we slough off this mortal coil we go back to the ether, examine our lives, and continue to evolve and grow even on the other side.

But many people here who believe in Hell might understandably be afraid when they get to the other side. So some don't go. At least not easily or willingly.

[Rob S]

When I was young my parents use to use Ouija board, but not like most people use it. They would ask questions to people who were still alive. For example, they would ask ME questions through the Ouija board while I was asleep at night. One night they asked me who I was in my most resent past life. I responded and indicated I was my dad's grandfather. I gave details around my death and life I had.

Another time they asked my cousin (while he was asleep in his bed) who he was in his past life . His response was that he was a brother of my grandmother (on my mother's side). He said he had died at a very young age (under 3 years old). Now, the only two people in the room using the Ouija board at the time were my mother and father. My mother knew nothing about this, and neither did my father. So my mother called my grandmother the next day and the story was true. My grandmother had a brother who died at 2 years old. The family never spoke of this and my grandmother could not understand how my mother could have known this, since my grandmother was the last living person who knew about this.

My father had told that he knew of many people who use the Ouija board in this manner. He told me once how someone he knew very well needed to get some specific information for a test he was studying for. He was looking for the information in a book but not all of his questions were answered. He got on the Ouija board and asked the author of the book (who was still living) the questions he had, and got the answers. The author obviously had no idea this was even going on.

I agree you can easily channel evil low level beings through the Ouija board. However, if you look at what it is and how it works, you will realize the Ouija board is a mechanical version of a telepathic ability. Our brains are transmitters/receivers for thought waves. When you send a question out into the universe and the answer comes back, not all of us can "hear it". Using the Ouija board, the signal comes in through your Brain and the channeled energy moves the oracle on the board. The answer can come back from any source, another living person, a spirit, wherever.

To me, this is incredible evidence that our brains do communicate with each other at the level of energy and that we are all connected.

My parents never used the board with fear. They used it with positive energy (high vibration). In that state you should not attract evil beings. It's similar to Astral projections, the higher the vibration the less likely you are to attract and see evil beings.


Anyone else have similar experiences?

[The David]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

But many people here who believe in Hell might understandably be afraid when they get to the other side. So some don't go. At least not easily or willingly.

According to this thread, I'll be one of those people.

[mkidd]

Rob,

I signed up for a free 3-day trial of xm radio for the "oprah and friends" channel and she's had a fascinating series on the soul. She interviewed Yale educated Miami psychiatrist Dr. Brian Weiss, author of Many Lives, Many Masters about his study on past lives.

It was incredible. Gave me chills. You can't read the interview here, but you can get a bit more on the case, Catherine, that started him on this here
http://www2.oprah.com/xm/oprah/oprah_main.jhtml

It can't say enough how fascinating it was. He was treating a woman from China, who knew no english, had a translator even. Under hypnosis she started speaking as someone from the pacific NW, with perfect english. The translator was so stunned he started translating her responded back into Chinese.

[dor]

How does the Ouija board work? New-Agey folks think you get messages from spirits or ghosts or Invisible Pink Unicorns or something. Yeah, sure. Here's the real explanation, from the Skeptic's Dictionary (http://skepdic.com/ouija.html): "those using the board either consciously or unconsciously select what is read." If you want to prove it to yourself, follow the advice of that same site: "simply try it blindfolded for some time, having an innocent bystander take notes on what letters are selected. Usually, the result will be unintelligible nonsense."

The Straight Dope Mailbag: The Straight Dope Mailbag: How does a Ouija board work?

[Erin Pavlina]

Dor, why would skeptics assume a ouija board would work if the person touching the planchette were blindfolded? Not sure I follow that reasoning.

Also, how does it explain my experience where a guy I didn't know asked the board a question, and while me and my friend were touching the planchette the answer came clear as day? How would we have subconsciously known what to spell out? He was not touching the planchette.

I agree that people playing with a ouija board might be subconsciously pushing it, but that doesn't mean that's how everyone is doing it.

I was very skeptical of ouija boards until I actually started using them. I wonder how many people who assume ouija boards are fake have never actually tried them for themselves.

I do also agree that a lot of gibberish sometimes comes through a oujia board, even when people are looking at it and not blindfolded. That seems to be because the spirit using the human to communicate through has not mastered the ability and so it comes through kind of like static.

[George Eliot]

When I was a little kid I went to a friend's birthday party and some of the girls at the party started playing with the ouija board. I've always been fascinated with stuff like that but at the same time, my curiosity was tempered by a healthy dose of fear

I couldn't help but watch the procedure but was unwilling to participate myself. I also remember thinking that the girl who introduced the game to the party was moving the piece because she right off the bat claimed that she was in contact with her grandma, who had a special signal for her every time she "signed on."

Another clue that this girl was moving it herself was that I had just met her that day so she didn't know how to spell my name, which sounds one wa