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Jill 11-04-2006 02:31 PM

Anyone have any interesting Oujia board experiences?
 
When I was younger, my sister and I used to "play" with the Oujia board and always seemed to communicate with some interesting spirits. Most people I tell don't believe me and think that either she or I were moving the oracle around, but I sure know that I wasn't! I'm 99.9% sure my sister wasn't either. Of course our subconscious' could have been doing it, but either way, it was a lot of fun.

One time we had a discussion with some spirit that said its name was (I think) Seth Greenberg. I don't really recall the actual discussion, but when we were done, there was some show we wanted to watch on TV so we packed up the board and turned on the TV.

The previous show was ending (I believe it was the Lou Grant show...which pretty much dates me!). The credits were rolling and all of a sudden there in the credits as the director or some other thing was the name Seth Greenberg!

Needless to say, we freaked out!

Don't know what it means, but it was interesting, nonetheless.

Erin Pavlina 11-04-2006 04:47 PM

Here's my ouija board story:

Are ouija boards real?

BillPerry 11-04-2006 07:30 PM

Ouija boards
 
There is a guy I work with who told me a couple weeks back that he and some friends decided to "play" the Ouija board, because they got bored (board? lol).

He said he seemed to have connected with the "spirit" of a dead relative, the usual stuff, I guess. Then he told me that later on, he got a message that told the guy he is the "True Lord of Hell".

I'm not sure what to think of that, considering I basically don't believe in demons and Hell.

Bill
Financial Freedom and Practical Spirituality

Erin Pavlina 11-04-2006 07:48 PM

Lower energy beings come through on ouija boards. They like to suck people's energy and give them false and evil sounding messages. Pretty typical actually.

Jill 11-04-2006 07:52 PM

My sister and I had a weird character once on the Oujia which claimed to be the devil.

Funny thing with that one was that he/she/it wasn't actually going to the letters on the oujia board, but instead sort of writing letters through the oracle thingee. Like actually making the shape of an A or a B or whatever.

I had trouble figuring out the letters, but my sister seemed to be able to. (Of course, maybe she was doing it afterall! ;)

Dolazy 11-04-2006 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina (Post 1163)
Lower energy beings come through on ouija boards. They like to suck people's energy and give them false and evil sounding messages. Pretty typical actually.

I'm a bit confused now. I thought that according to the Abraham-Hicks teachings all non-physical beings are 100% connected to source energy and therefore in a state of peace and joy.

What did I misunderstand? I would greatly appreciate your insights on this.

Francis

Zach 11-04-2006 08:28 PM

It's just me, but I want to stay as far away from Ouija boards as possible :)

Erin Pavlina 11-04-2006 08:39 PM

Dolazy, you might want to read my blog entry entitled, Does Evil Exist for my take on that.

Dolazy 11-04-2006 08:54 PM

Thanks this clears it up quite a bit. However I'm still a little confused. You write that humans restore their connection to source energy after they die. But the spirit who identified himself as "T" claimed to be someone who was hung for murder in the 1800s (Are ouija boards real?). So was he then a 'lost one' or something?

Francis

sourceofmiracles 11-04-2006 09:06 PM

Call me a Wimp, but No Ouija for me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach (Post 1205)
It's just me, but I want to stay as far away from Ouija boards as possible :)

When I was about 7 I used to have a lot of spiritual experiences. Some of it used to really scare me, because there was not context in which to explain any of it. No one had to tell me about the other side because I just knew it was real PERIOD.

At about that time i saw this movie. You may have heard about it. It was called the Exorcist. Long story short, I do not mess with the darkside AT ALL. Only because I know its real. As I know more, my fear has subsided but I'm still careful about inviting bad things in.

sourceofmiracles 11-04-2006 09:15 PM

LOL Erin
 
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Maybe these evil entities are just a manifestation of our own human fears, collected throughout the years and dumped into an ethereal landfill of fear. In that case, we ought to go clean it up. Maybe in time we will.
That is an awesome description. I love that article. I think my own fear has kept me away from a lot of Astral projection. Ironically, it has always facinated me. I hope to do much more in the very near NOW.

Erin Pavlina 11-04-2006 09:42 PM

Dolazy, that assumes the spirits cross over. I've come to understand, from my guides, that the more negative a human is, the less likely they are to want to cross over because they fear that all that is waiting for them is hell or damnation. They fear judgment, so why bother crossing over? They feed off the energy of people on Earth and stick around.

That "T" entity may not have even been telling us the truth.

When I was channeling the entity in the Amargosa hotel for the Criss Angel show I realized after we were talking to him for about 20 minutes that he was lying to keep us around so he could feed off our energy even longer. I even told the investigators and the crew people that we should leave so he couldn't feed on our energy anymore. The entity got really mad at that.

Dolazy 11-05-2006 08:42 AM

What is 'crossing over'? I assume it means going from one place to another. Does it mean 'to die'? (Going from physical to non-physical.)

Anyway thanks a lot Erin for the information. It's very helpful for my understanding of it all.

Heh, now I wonder if these lower-level spirits could raise their vibration to higher levels if they wanted to?

Erin Pavlina 11-05-2006 01:45 PM

Yes, crossing over is when you die and move "into the light" as people say. Some negative entities don't cross over, fearing judgment for their crimes on Earth.

Zach 11-05-2006 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina (Post 1853)
Yes, crossing over is when you die and move "into the light" as people say. Some negative entities don't cross over, fearing judgment for their crimes on Earth.

Interesting, I've never heard that before. Since I'm assuming that you don't believe in the traditional God as being the one who judges, who do you believe exercises this judgment? Or are you saying that negative entities don't cross over, because they're afraid of a nonexistent judge?

I hope I didn't offend you, I'm just not acquainted with your views on this matter, and I'd greatly appreciate a clarification.

Erin Pavlina 11-05-2006 09:10 PM

Hi Zach,

I think in some cases the entities fear judgment not realizing they are going to judge themselves. I believe we are all pieces of God Source and when we slough off this mortal coil we go back to the ether, examine our lives, and continue to evolve and grow even on the other side.

But many people here who believe in Hell might understandably be afraid when they get to the other side. So some don't go. At least not easily or willingly. ;)

Rob S 02-11-2007 04:28 AM

Mind to mind connection with Ouija board
 
When I was young my parents use to use Ouija board, but not like most people use it. They would ask questions to people who were still alive. For example, they would ask ME questions through the Ouija board while I was asleep at night. One night they asked me who I was in my most resent past life. I responded and indicated I was my dad's grandfather. I gave details around my death and life I had.

Another time they asked my cousin (while he was asleep in his bed) who he was in his past life . His response was that he was a brother of my grandmother (on my mother's side). He said he had died at a very young age (under 3 years old). Now, the only two people in the room using the Ouija board at the time were my mother and father. My mother knew nothing about this, and neither did my father. So my mother called my grandmother the next day and the story was true. My grandmother had a brother who died at 2 years old. The family never spoke of this and my grandmother could not understand how my mother could have known this, since my grandmother was the last living person who knew about this.

My father had told that he knew of many people who use the Ouija board in this manner. He told me once how someone he knew very well needed to get some specific information for a test he was studying for. He was looking for the information in a book but not all of his questions were answered. He got on the Ouija board and asked the author of the book (who was still living) the questions he had, and got the answers. The author obviously had no idea this was even going on.

I agree you can easily channel evil low level beings through the Ouija board. However, if you look at what it is and how it works, you will realize the Ouija board is a mechanical version of a telepathic ability. Our brains are transmitters/receivers for thought waves. When you send a question out into the universe and the answer comes back, not all of us can "hear it". Using the Ouija board, the signal comes in through your Brain and the channeled energy moves the oracle on the board. The answer can come back from any source, another living person, a spirit, wherever.

To me, this is incredible evidence that our brains do communicate with each other at the level of energy and that we are all connected.

My parents never used the board with fear. They used it with positive energy (high vibration). In that state you should not attract evil beings. It's similar to Astral projections, the higher the vibration the less likely you are to attract and see evil beings.


Anyone else have similar experiences?

The David 02-11-2007 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina (Post 2207)
But many people here who believe in Hell might understandably be afraid when they get to the other side. So some don't go. At least not easily or willingly. ;)

According to this thread, I'll be one of those people.

mkidd 02-26-2007 06:21 PM

Rob,

I signed up for a free 3-day trial of xm radio for the "oprah and friends" channel and she's had a fascinating series on the soul. She interviewed Yale educated Miami psychiatrist Dr. Brian Weiss, author of Many Lives, Many Masters about his study on past lives.

It was incredible. Gave me chills. You can't read the interview here, but you can get a bit more on the case, Catherine, that started him on this here
http://www2.oprah.com/xm/oprah/oprah_main.jhtml

It can't say enough how fascinating it was. He was treating a woman from China, who knew no english, had a translator even. Under hypnosis she started speaking as someone from the pacific NW, with perfect english. The translator was so stunned he started translating her responded back into Chinese.

dor 02-26-2007 06:30 PM

How does the Ouija board work? New-Agey folks think you get messages from spirits or ghosts or Invisible Pink Unicorns or something. Yeah, sure. Here's the real explanation, from the Skeptic's Dictionary (http://skepdic.com/ouija.html): "those using the board either consciously or unconsciously select what is read." If you want to prove it to yourself, follow the advice of that same site: "simply try it blindfolded for some time, having an innocent bystander take notes on what letters are selected. Usually, the result will be unintelligible nonsense."

The Straight Dope Mailbag: The Straight Dope Mailbag: How does a Ouija board work?

Erin Pavlina 02-26-2007 07:05 PM

Dor, why would skeptics assume a ouija board would work if the person touching the planchette were blindfolded? Not sure I follow that reasoning.

Also, how does it explain my experience where a guy I didn't know asked the board a question, and while me and my friend were touching the planchette the answer came clear as day? How would we have subconsciously known what to spell out? He was not touching the planchette.

I agree that people playing with a ouija board might be subconsciously pushing it, but that doesn't mean that's how everyone is doing it.

I was very skeptical of ouija boards until I actually started using them. I wonder how many people who assume ouija boards are fake have never actually tried them for themselves.

I do also agree that a lot of gibberish sometimes comes through a oujia board, even when people are looking at it and not blindfolded. That seems to be because the spirit using the human to communicate through has not mastered the ability and so it comes through kind of like static.

George Eliot 02-27-2007 07:26 PM

When I was a little kid I went to a friend's birthday party and some of the girls at the party started playing with the ouija board. I've always been fascinated with stuff like that but at the same time, my curiosity was tempered by a healthy dose of fear :)

I couldn't help but watch the procedure but was unwilling to participate myself. I also remember thinking that the girl who introduced the game to the party was moving the piece because she right off the bat claimed that she was in contact with her grandma, who had a special signal for her every time she "signed on."

Another clue that this girl was moving it herself was that I had just met her that day so she didn't know how to spell my name, which sounds one way but is spelt slightly differently from how it sounds. Of course, being the only one who refused to try it out, even though I was dying of curiosity, she "asks" the ouija board who it wants to talk to next and then proceeds to spell out my name - incorrectly of course.

I went home that night feeling somewhat disappointed that this girl had dispelled the magic by making such an obvious oversight. Of course, the "spirit" could have also misspelled my name, I suppose.

At the same time, I'm not entirely opposed to the idea that something other worldly could be at work in the case of ouija boards, and because most stories tend to relate experiences with lower level beings or tricksters, I am happy I decided not to try it out.

But that's my ouija board story. ;)

dor 02-27-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina (Post 44784)
Dor, why would skeptics assume a ouija board would work if the person touching the planchette were blindfolded? Not sure I follow that reasoning.

i think they say it won't work - thus proving its subconscious manipulation.

I used to be quite a skeptic, about all things, precisely because there is so much chicanory out there but that said, I don't discount the possibility of phenomena - i would like to see some studies about these type of boards- i have read about a lot of frightening experiences with them as well -who knows it could just be a form of 'group meditation' that unleashes parts of the mind - the way LSD can.

OldTex 02-28-2007 01:51 AM

Hmmm...

OK - honestly, saying the Ouija board is "evil", is like a mechanic saying a Porter Cable impact wrench is evil because one once slipped and he/she busted their hand.

Like a pendulum, a Tarot deck, divining rods, and other items, it's a tool. Like any tool, be it a Ouija board, tarot deck, air-impact wrench - any tool - can be harmful if used improperly. In fact, I can say more a nail gun is far more dangerous than a Ouija board.

The idea is to use them safely, with high vibrations. The psychic equivalent of safety glasses and gloves.

escapee 03-01-2007 03:50 PM

Chinese has been using board similar to Ouiji to connect to the spirits for thousand years. There is a rule that whorever leaves the finger without having the coin going back to the original position, disaster would ensue on that person. It's a creepy game that i dare not venture. :o

chopsaw 03-02-2007 12:19 AM

If anyone told me this, I'd roll my eyes and say yeah, right
 
I feel pretty weird replying to this. Ouiji boards terrify me. But maybe I should explain. When I was young, my house had a bad vibe. When I'd go into the basement, I'd frequently see glowing orbs. They were small. About the size of an eyeball. Never any bigger than a baseball. There were no windows so I knew it couldn't have been reflections, sun, etc. They were small, stayed low to the ground, but could move through objects. It was scary on an instinctual level. I was never approached, but felt that I aught to protect myself from them. It's impossible for me to explain exactly how I did this. I was able to conjure a force/feeling from inside my chest, I never saw this thing I felt, but when I closed my eyes it was gold in color, formless, and radiated outward in all directions (it will also make a baby smile which is something I don't get). My dad still lives in that house, doesn't notice a thing, and would think I'm nuts if I ever told him any of this. The last time I visited, I saw something flash past me. It was out of the corner of my eye. The thing was dark, at first I thought it was a dog. I will not let my children go into that house. My dad visits us.

Twice I heard voices when I lived there. Once I was with my brother, and when I remind him of it he gets really quiet. The other time I was alone. Neither time did the voices threaten, they wanted to talk. The voices sounded like children and wanted to be included in what I was doing. (I'm getting goosebumps writing this). I never engaged the voices, I was too scared. The other thing was nightmares. I would have the most terrifying nightmares when I lived there. My dreams were literally taken over, and in the dreams I was fighting a possession. The one thing I remember about the dreams is that I would try to scream, but I had no voice. I would literally wake up trying to scream.

It continues. Most people who are close to me can pick up on thoughts that I "throw". It's something I would do when I was little and wanted to get my way. I'd believe a thought to be solid (usually a ball) and imagine throwing it into another person's brain. A few seconds later, they'd say exactly what I wanted them to say. I did it twice, quite accidently, this week and my dog nipped at me both times.

The next thing has to do with lights. When I get very anxious, angry or upset and am out for a drive. I'll have streetlights go out at the same time I pass under them. Not just one. I've literally had four or five go out as I passed under them. My friend Jeff was with me once when it happened and asked if I was using "the force". I want to think this is coincidental because only once has a light in the house acted in this manner. That happened when I was twelve. My parents were having a real big blow-out. My older brother got involved. I was standing under the kitchen light, and the thing exploded. Not just the bulb, the entire glass fixture blew to pieces. I was right under it and of course my parents thought I was badly hurt. Not a scratch. In fact, the small kitchen was filled with the whole family and no one got hurt. No one even stepped on a piece of glass. The fighting stopped immediately. We couldn't figure how it happened. But I remember apologizing for it.

The last thing I'm going to leave with isn't at all scary. It's loving. My mother was very sick, and was in the hospital. She'd just been transferred to another hospital with a better cardio/respitory ICU. Her cardiologist told me that she wasn't going to make it through the night. That night I visited her, but I was a gold orb, I was as big as the hallway, I had a gold string that went back to my body, and I wrapped my self around my mother like a blanket. I am usually a very light sleeper, but the nurse was physically shaking me awake asking me if I was Jim. I said I was. She said my mother wanted to see me. When I went to see her she asked if I was in her room that night. I wasn't. The doctors were so busy attending to her after the transfer that I wasn't allowed into the ICU. But I recognized everything and knew exactly which room my mother was in. I didn't intend this to happen, I just wanted to do something to help her. A few years later when she did die, I wasn't in the hospital. She told me earlier that week she'd send me a sign. Around the same time that she died, I was driving to a friend's to get a shower and a break from the hospital. As I was driving a deer walked in front of my car. I stopped. The deer, a big doe, looked right at me, held my gaze, and then walked off into the woods. I knew at that moment that my mother had died.

My wife thinks that I should explore these elements, but I have to say it scares me. I don't even want to go near a Tarot deck. I guess it's because I sense an immense power there, but know nothing about it. I can't manipulate things, otherwise I'd win the lottery. But sometimes I get a really strong feeling (sometimes it's a clear picture or deja vu moment)about outcomes, before they happen. I guess I want to learn more about this, but at a safe distance.

Erin Pavlina 03-02-2007 04:40 AM

Jim, you have what a lot of lightworkers have, fear of their abilities. My suggestion is to work on getting to a place without fear (raise your vibration in other words) and then open yourself up to exploring again, if you are comfortable with that.

When you are psychically inclined and you are afraid, you will tend to see and hear things that will frighten you. It's like, if being psychic was like tuning in to a radio, you're tuned in to the fear channel. Tune in to a higher frequency and you won't get the heebie jeebies. :)

Zombie 03-02-2007 07:54 PM

I've had that danged streetlight thing happen to me, too! Like all the time! I thought it was just natural glitches in the lights but people I've mentioned it to think I'm being weird and say it doesn't happen to them at all. Streetlights going out and then coming back on after you pass? Whatever, dude!

I haven't noticed it associated with any sort of stress, although I'm usually deep in thought when it starts happening. That might be something you're bringing to the table outside of the phenomenon itself.

Spiritual energy is kind of like e-mail. Have you ever sent a friendly e-mail and have the person receiving it think you were being mean or sarcastic? The text you both saw was the same but you derived different meanings from it. What you're perceiving as a "dark" force may in fact just be "quite a lot of pent-up" force, so much so that it's overwhelming. At the same time, better safe than sorry so I don't blame you for avoiding it.

Erin Pavlina 03-02-2007 09:23 PM

I was all over the street lights going out thing, but I read somewhere that it is a common occurence for them to go on and off throughout the night. Not sure if this is true, but I remember noting that maybe I wasn't so special after all. ;)

OldTex 03-03-2007 03:45 PM

It's common for street lights to dim occasionally, because they over heat and a circuit shuts them down to cool off... but it can also happen to someone who's inner energy is running quite high, and you trigger that circuit when you get near.

A friend of mine, after energy work, can make every street light in a block go out, and once he leaves, they come back on. It's like you can follow his walk through a neighborhood by watching where the lights went off.

When I get irritated, regular lights will blow out near me, and forget any AM-radio reception near me, my electrical field messes up the signals.


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