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02-19-2008, 07:11 AM
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 |  Feeling Scary Negative Energy Around
Over the past couple weeks I've made progress in my development in leaps and bounds. The whole thing has been quite exciting - a dream come true. As a side effect, of course, has come the release of some pretty nasty negative energy from my body. Normally, when I feel it is time to release it I go into the shower, sit and let the water fall on me like rain while letting tears flow, silent screams and other energy out. For some reason I feel safe in there and the water does a good job of cleansing me and the space. Lately though I've been feeling something menacing and negative around the apartment in general. Something that definitely does not want me to progress, that is angry about it, that is stubborn and will not allow too much joy to occur. It scares me just a little. I've felt compelled to use incense (have no idea why this works) and let fresh air in on a regular basis - but the negativity comes back a while after the cleansing is over. I'm simply not sure what I should be doing to protect myself or to get rid of the nasties that are fighting hard to hang on. And I would be very grateful for any ideas. |
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02-19-2008, 01:10 PM
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Sea salt sucks up bad energy. Leave some bowls of water with sea salt in them around the apartment, and change them frequently (throwing out the water OUTSIDE of the apartment. "Hung Vajra Pay" is a mantra used to clearing out bad energy (see the book "Healing Mantras" by Thomas Ashley-Farrand.) Walk around your apartment chanting it. Especially if you can make a discipline of doing that every day for a period of time, for 40 days. Visualize an energy shield or bubble around you that keeps that bad stuff out. |
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02-19-2008, 01:40 PM
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I also have heard and used the sea salt treatment, only the method described to me didn't include water, just dishes of dry sea salt in each room. You can also add sea salt (and baking soda) to a bath to cleanse your body of any absorbed negative energy or any that you're releasing and wish to be rid of. Burning sage sticks throughout the apartment will cleanse negative energy. Open the windows afterwards to allow the breeze to chase out the bad and let in the good. Are there any pieces of furniture or other items in your apartment that may be hosting/holding onto negative energy from previous owners or from prior negative experiences? If so, clean them (energetically) or remove them from your space. Wrap yourself and your home in protective light everyday. |
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02-19-2008, 02:36 PM
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Actually I'm picking up a different explanation entirely. I think the negative energy is coming from inside yourself. Perhaps your ego or analytic mind trying to prevent you from releasing. That's why it keeps coming back, because you are not addressing the source. Instead of the salt and incense and prayers, do a meditation where you go down an elevator (21 floors) then walk down 21 steps and go into a room and take the personification of the negative energy down there with you. Turn it into like a small creature and talk to it. Tell it that it's time to go, that you don't need it anymore, that it is not welcome, and send it on its merry way. then go back up the stairs and elevator without it. See what happens. |
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02-19-2008, 02:40 PM
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I agree with Dharma, to me it seems that this is a manifestation of your internal resistance to your improvements in life and letting go. Maybe there really is a negative energy out there, but in my opinion this is because it resonates with the little parts of resistance within you. I remember reading your posts at the beginnings of this forums and at this time I was thinking that you were someone with strong internal resistance. [What I am saying here is totally subjective, it was just my interpretation, which may not be true for your point of view, I understand I can be wrong.] When I read your posts now I think that you have made so much improvements in your life and you internal happiness. You seem to have a very positive energy. (and that's very inspirationnal) So maybe this negative energy is little parts of resistance left in you. But it's ok, no need to be scared of that, we all have negative sides and resistances. Usually when we aknowledge them they disappear. |
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02-19-2008, 02:40 PM
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 and Dharma.All while I was typing my response I had a nagging feeling that "this isn't it" but didn't/couldn't hear clearly what was "it". | |
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02-19-2008, 04:30 PM
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Michelle, I have also been doing a lot of internal work over the last several months. For me, the huge shift came in November, and I had expected that I'd spend several weeks adjusting, learning who I am now that I had taken charge of my life in a new way. I thought I'd arrive at the end of the holiday season happier than I had been, and when I got into January and I didn't feel dramatically better, I felt puzzled by how little my overall mood had improved. A few weeks ago, when talking to someone I trust, I described some of the changes I've been making: choosing thoughts and actions that empower me, removing a couple of negative people from my life, and rediscovering what I want. He felt ecstatic at my progress. Somewhat confused, I asked: If I'm making such great progress, if I'm going through all these important changes, how come I'm not happier? His response was this: The happiness is there; you're just not letting yourself experience it. He suggested I work on believing that I deserve to feel happy. Simply understanding that I need to believe I deserve happiness and trusting that it's there has made a big difference already. Now when I catch myself feeling down, I look inside and ask myself why. Sometimes there's something I want to do that I'm not allowing myself to consider doing, so I choose to do that thing. Sometimes I get an image of myself as a little girl, sobbing. I imagine my adult self lovingly giving her a hug, asking what's wrong. Sometimes all she needs is acknowledgment and comfort. When I get an answer that requires action, I take action or make plans to do so. Then I visualize handing her over to beings of love and brilliant light for healing. Perhaps something similar could work for you? When you feel the negativity, ask it why it's there. Once you've learned what you need from it, hand it over to beings of love and light for healing. |
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02-19-2008, 04:56 PM
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Michelle, I don't disagree with Erin in any way and I think her suggestion is a fine one. Here is another thought: We all need balance in our lives. It sounds like you've been running on fumes with your spiritual development for several months. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but if you've been neglecting the other three aspects of your being, it would make sense that you're getting some messages that things need to change. Try this: Draw a circle on a piece of paper. Put a cross through the middle of the circle - one line up and down and one side to side. Mark out the four cardinal points with Mind at the top, Spirit to the right, Heart at the bottom, and Body to the left. Do it in that order, moving sunwise around the circle. Now along those lines within the circle put a mark where you think you are with that aspect of your life. Now, connect the dots. In a perfect world, you'd have a circle within your circle. It doesn't matter what size the circle is, this is all about balance. So, if you're not particularly engaged in any aspect of your life, you'd have a small - but balanced - circle. That's fine (for a while). I would suspect, based on what you're saying that you will have a very lopsided circle with your Spirit being way out of proportion with the rest. Depending on how you see this experience, you may choose to call this awakening a part of your Mind. That's fine too. Whatever makes sense to you. Once you've gotten your results, it's time to decide what to do about it. Take the path of least resistance. For instance, if you're very high on one aspect and the other three are pretty much the same, then back off the one that's high. If you have two high and two low, you have a choice to make: Increase the low scorers or decrease the high scorers. Again, the whole point is to bring balance into your life, not "set the curve on personal development." If you practice meditation or prayer, I would reccommend going out and collecting some cedar (or juniper depending on where you live) boughs. Do this in a respectful way, asking with your heart if the tree is willing to sacrifice part of itself for you. Listen with your heart and see if you feel an affirmation. If so, collect a few boughs and offer your thanks for the tree's sacrifice. If you have some, offer some tobacco in thanks (any time you take something, you should give something and tobacco is a very sacred plant) During your meditations/prayers, or just before, strip the small needles from the stems and place them in a mortar and pestle. Grind them to a fine powder (you should create about two to three teaspoons of powder) in the mortar and pestlel and burn it as incense over an incense coal. Cedar is a great Ally to bring balance to your life. Grinding the cedar will help you absorb that medicine and burning the cedar will clear your environment of all the negative energies that have built up there. Mitaque oyasin, Mato Kinze |
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02-20-2008, 06:17 AM
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Thank you for your very thoughtful and loving replies. I spent a lot of time crying yesterday with no energy left for the meditation or other rituals. I honestly don't know anymore if this is healthy release or a nasty depression. My goal for today is to do the 21 steps meditation and see where it takes me. |
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02-20-2008, 10:55 AM
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I did the meditation and here is what happened: It was very easy going into this meditation, even with a screaming baby in the upstairs apartment and my fear. I asked the angels to protect me while I go in deep and I immediately felt they would. So, during the elevator ride my breath deepened and I felt somewhat excited. While walking down the steps I started to get worried about what I might find in the room. I walked into the room and met a receptionist. I told her I was looking for the negativity and evil. She pointed me into an adjacent room. When I opened the door this huge big black thing started screaming and booming at me. It's composition was something like tar, smoke and dust all mixed into one. Really gross. I asked it why it is there and it said "to scare you because it is fun". I told the thing that I am not scared of it and that it is no longer welcome in that room. I asked the angels to escort it out which they did. Then I set out the intention to redecorate that room with love and light. My heart feels a bit different now and I am a bit calmer. It felt good, and as of yet I haven't felt the menacing energy around. |
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02-20-2008, 12:05 PM
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Okay, I am getting more insights ... There is part of me wondering if she does indeed need that big black scary monster inside of her. That monster was my reason for starting with personal development years ago. It has been my main motivation in self discovery, learning to love ... it has been the focus of my existence for years. What do I do without it? How can I be assured of continued growth? How can I satisfy the hunger inside of me that comes up when she is no longer consumed with her purpose of releasing the monster within? Who am I without my monster? |
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02-20-2008, 01:22 PM
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How about... You're a beautiful inquisitive sprite, learning and growing and discovering new things every day because you want to, not because you have to? You're having fun and chuckling with joy and love as you explore the world and yourself  |
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02-20-2008, 02:05 PM
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Turn your spiritual gaze upward instead of down the deep dark well. You don't need to be scared to take action or to continue your growth. One of the reasons I had you go down in the elevator exercise is because that's where the scary thing dwells. Now take your energy up and walk with your guides, angels, and higher self. See who you are without the big scary bad. |
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02-20-2008, 03:48 PM
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I did another meditation - this time going up. Doing it was far more complicated than going down. After walking up the last step, there was a door which opened to a huge vast area of space. There was no one there though. So I continued to walk up. Upon walking I met someone. The only way I can describe him is to say he was covered in hair like a yeti or something, but very kind and gentle. He knew me and loved me and I couldn't remember him. This made me cry. We hugged and I asked to be directed toward my higher self. There were stairs upon stairs to climb and when I got to the room she was sitting in the middle of it. She is perhaps the most amazing goddess I have ever seen. I felt that she was completely open, like a vessel and there was light shining out of her head and eyes and the rest of her body. She didn't tell me anything (like she doesn't talk ... which seems to make sense to me somehow) but wrote a sign that said "go". I went into the next room and met someone whom I assume is my spirit guide. He was gentle and kind (old and white) and told me I am doing just fine - no worries. I thanked him and moved into another room where I met my boyfriend's young brother who died last October - we exchanged hugs and love and promises to visit ... Then I tried to visit my angels but had no luck. I asked everyone who I am without the monster but still don't really have an answer. But I do know these things can come after the effect, so I am not yet discouraged. Thank you for guiding me here. |
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02-20-2008, 04:41 PM
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One day, he came to a village near a river. At first the village appeared to be abandoned, but soon the priest realized that the entire village was gathered near the banks of the river. They were all shouting advice and encouragement to an old woman in the middle of the river. "Swim harder!" one shouted. "Kick with your legs!" another exclaimed. It became apparant to the Priest that the woman was trying to cross the river but was having great difficulty because she was carrying an enormous stone. "Let go of the stone!" the Priest shouted. "But it's MINE!" the woman yelled back." Michelle, Somethings that served us at one point in our lives no longer serve us, but rather hinder us. In acknowledging this we are able to release that which no longer provides us growth. I can't say if this negativity that prompted you to your current understanding is necessary for you anymore - maybe it is. But maybe it's just a stone. | |
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02-20-2008, 04:50 PM
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Michelle, like a baby learns to walk by projecting out an image of herself walking, and then she follows it, you can project out an inspiring image of yourself and follow it. To me, this is a much more fun form of growth than focusing on ridding myself of the unwanted, and it also makes it effortless to get rid of the unwanted, surprisingly! One method I use is: clearly distinguish what the negativity is, in words. What does your little voice tell you, that has you feelng bad? See how pervasive that particular message is all over your life. And then: look boldly at what believing that message has cost you -- things like vitality, freedom, joy, connection. Look boldly at what your belief in that message has cost the people in your life -- because you can bet that your pain has a big impact on the people around you. Be really present to those prices you and others have been paying. This is not easy, and it takes courage (which you have in spades.) And watch what inspiring new possibility arises. Look at a whole new way of being that, if you were being it, it would really light you up, and have you projecting out who you want to be in the world, and follow that inspiring new way of being like a baby! When you are living out a possibility that inspires you, negativity can't stick to you -- it just can't keep up. It may catch up to you now and then, but when you re-invoke your inspiration and flick the gremlin off your shoulder, it gets easier and you get more powerful. |
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02-20-2008, 04:55 PM
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I so needed this today. Something clicked, it made me teary. Thank you for sharing your journey with us Michelle. I love how detailed your meditations are. I can get to details like that sometimes in my own, but usually it's through guided meditations that I can open up and experience other states. I'll have to try Erin's meditation myself. It sounds really powerful. So much good here. The reminder to drop the stone is so perfect. Both in my physical house, and my internal house, I have many stones that I feel I'm ready to let go of. Blessings all. |
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