Hemi-Sync vs. Holosync

[FearlessGhost]

Has anyone tried both of these technologies? Is one more effective in inducing deep states than the other?

[WanderingOak]

I believe both involve Bianural Beats, so they are both pretty much the same thing.

[FearlessGhost]

I use Hemi-Sync much to a definite affect. I fully believe in the product and highly support it. I have heard claims that Holosync is more effective in contributing to altering states of the mind than Hemi-Sync; Pavlina recently mentions that the Learning Strategies' Paraliminal CD series incorporates Holosync technologies. I have requested a free preview CD from Holosync, but unfortunately it has yet to arrive in the mail. Frankly, my determination so far is that I have been using Hemi-Sync with extreme success, including their music cd's like Break Through and Indigo for Quantum Focus (both of which are labeled under the category "Metamusic") which temporarily heightens creativity, focus, and attention (for long term results in areas such as addiction recovery, help with ADD, immune system boost, sleep, and more Cd's are available under the designation of Human Plus or H-Plus).

I definitely believe (as well as experience of results) that technology can help us in our endeavors of personal development and self-improvement, but I am not sure that I am willing to invest money into a technology that is the same or slightly better than what I have already invested in. There are rumors that Holosync includes technologies (including but other than binaural beats) that make the technology more effective. If anyone has experience in such matters, I am truly interested in learning of your experiences.

[WanderingOak]

How were you able to request the preview CD? I am not able to find it on their website.

[qutec]

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Searching google you can find it
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[Karma Police]

Originally Posted by WanderingOak

How were you able to request the preview CD? I am not able to find it on their website.

I tried Centerpointe's holosync demo CD, which you can get here.

Last week, I purchased and received the Awakening Prologue CD and have been using it since last Thursday. For me, it's the best meditation aid I've ever used. It's fantastic! I have no financial interest in recommending their product, but I'm a very happy customer.

The paraliminal CDs are very good too. But after experimenting with both, I'd choose the Centerpointe CDs (if I had to choose one).

[SteveG]

I am currently using the Hemi-Sync Gateway Experience series which eventually leads you into Astral Projection. They're not cheap but so far they've been quite good and have worked as advertised. The meditations have been effective.

[WanderingOak]

I came across an interesting article a few minutes ago when doing some research. Apparently, if you combine bianural beats and music/voices/etc, it disrupts the brainwave entrainment frequencies. The only thing that truly works for brainwave entrainment is a set of pure sine waves. The article goes into the science behind this reasoning and, of course, they are selling sine wave recordings.

[SteveG]

Originally Posted by WanderingOak

I came across an interesting article a few minutes ago when doing some research. Apparently, if you combine bianural beats and music/voices/etc, it disrupts the brainwave entrainment frequencies. The only thing that truly works for brainwave entrainment is a set of pure sine waves. The article goes into the science behind this reasoning and, of course, they are selling sine wave recordings.

Based on my limited experience, I have to disagree with their theory. The Hemi-Sync program I am using has binaural beats along with voice and sometimes other sounds, and it seems to work very well. I have done Transcendental Meditation for many years and have occasionally managed to get into some very deep states of relaxation. Using the Hemi-Sync program I have been able to do this consistently from the very first time I used it.

I was a bit reluctant to use this type of program to begin with because I would rather not have to rely on external tools. However, once I started using the Gateway Experience program I found out it is designed to train you so that eventually you can do it without listening to the CDs. When you first start the program you are led through exercises that slowly take you into a deep state of meditation. Later on, you learn techniques that can take you instantly to that state.

There are quite possibly other programs out there that do the same thing. All I know is this one seems to work for me.

[JJH]

Totally agree with SteveG. The Paraliminals that Steve Pavlina recommends use Holosync technology with the voices of Paul Sheele to achieve its effects. I've been using Holosync for a month now, and it is the best brainwave entrainment program I've used.

[WanderingOak]

I've been using the paraliminals myself over the past few weeks, and agree that they are good meditation tapes. They do produce the desired effect that they are supposed to. However, I am not sure if the binaural beat technology in the Holosync tracks work.

I used to be a Sonar Technician in the Navy, and while I was tracking a submarine rather than a Stradivarius, I was staring at harmonics for days on end. I could actually see the frequencies on my scope, and when the primary frequency changed, the harmonics would change in exaggerated proportion. 204Hz lines would have multiples at 408 and 816. When the primary frequency went up to 206Hz, the others would go up to 412 and 824. Ofttimes we would watch the larger harmonics closely to check for a very small change in the base frequency.

Again, I am not knocking the Paraliminal recordings. I have the whole set, and I listen to them daily. However, if I understand binaural beats properly, you do need a clean sine wave for them to work. Voices, musical instruments, ocean waves, etc, while they may sound nice when frequency shifted, I am not sure if they have the brain entrainment affect that a sine wave would. But hey, I like the Paraliminal tapes, they work, so who cares how or why they work. This thread was started initially asking which binaural beat technology worked the best, and I was trying to answer it.

[SteveG]

Originally Posted by WanderingOak

Again, I am not knocking the Paraliminal recordings. I have the whole set, and I listen to them daily. However, if I understand binaural beats properly, you do need a clean sine wave for them to work. Voices, musical instruments, ocean waves, etc, while they may sound nice when frequency shifted, I am not sure if they have the brain entrainment affect that a sine wave would. But hey, I like the Paraliminal tapes, they work, so who cares how or why they work. This thread was started initially asking which binaural beat technology worked the best, and I was trying to answer it.

No worries, sorry if it came across as though I was being critical. Not sure about the technical side of it as I haven't really spent too much time looking into it, but the Hemi-Sync stuff seems to work, at least for me anyway. Haven't tried the Holosync stuff myself yet so I can't really comment on which one is better. I think I have a Holosync demo CD here so I'll have to give it a go.