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Ok, you can all call me a chicken/*****/*insert adjective that describes non-bravery here*, or anything you like, but the stuff I'm learning from different sources regarding the esoteric and the occult is scaring me to death! I know that OBEs/Astral travel or however you wanna call it is real - I've had a few experiences, even though they were extremely short and I snapped to my body almost immediately. I've read books on OBEs and the two books I've read didn't mention Demons or any evil entities at all! None of the people in those books had any contact with negative entities at all. But then I started reading another book, and at the same time started reading Erin's blog and the picture these out of body explorers paint is very different - it's sort of like a war going on between evil and good on the astral plane... it's like demons/incubuses/whatever are in abundance out there and they've got a thing for people with a low vibrational frequency.. I've never had any demons attacking me in my life and they aren't attacking me now either (how do you know anyway?), but I'm scared to death they are going to attack me in the future.... (I've never actually seen a demon or been attacked, I'm just afraid of the possibility of an attack) Well, the theory doesn't really matter anyway.... the only thing I'd really love is for you people to tell me something that could calm me down.... I'm a nervous person with a low energy frequency anyhow.... and now DEMONS could posess me while I'm sleeping or attack me or something scary like that (I don't even dare try OBEs now, the only thing I'm petrified of is the entities attacking me in my sleep) - and the fact that demons could attack me because I'm in a low energy frequency JUST LOWERS MY FREQUENCY EVEN MORE, BECAUSE I'M SCARED TO DEATH THINKING ABOUT IT!!! SO THE MORE I'M AFRAID THE MORE I'M ATTRACTING DEMONS, WHICH IN TURN MAKES ME MORE AFRAID!! How the hell can I be sure a demon won't posess me? How the hell can I know something won't attack me while I'm sleeping? But why would they attack me anyway? There are lots of people with low energy frequencies... why don't they go after them! OMG I don't want to do those freaky prayers and light visualisations and call for Jesus or Buddha's help before I go to bed..... what if that attracts them even more, plus I don't really have the time to do that stuff....lol... I mean... I've never had to do any of these things in the past and nobody ever attacked me.... Help... I didn't sleep at all last night thinking about this stuff |
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You need to know that your stronger and better than all of the demons and bad spirits out there, even if you do have low energy. Don't let them use you. You might get weird visions, or those weird obes things you were talking about because of your low energy. So just try not to let them scare you, because I think that this might be one of their "techniques" into like, possessing people and that kind of stuff. And you must remember that spirits are not physical, but we are. So they cannot harm you phtysically unless you let them. I hope this helps at all. |
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I believe demons attack the mind, they infiltrate your thoughts they cause you to doubt your strengths and abilities in all aspects of life, I can not prove this, I just believe this if demons can get you to doubt your own ability's doubt or blind you to your own strengths inwardly to defeat them ( and we ALL have the ability to defeat them,), I believe this comes from God , but won't argue this point then in a sense they have won!! |
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Sorry but I just had to laugh The reason I had to laugh is because your doing this to yourself. AND I know what your going through, trust me. Get some sleep. I didn't sleep for a almost 2 days the other day because i was a bit stressed to say the least. This pumped up my crank meter to an alarming rate. it makes you think strange things and I went into paranoia city....so get some shut eye. Have you thought of telling this demons to F off and go away, blow a kiss or just laugh ? I bet you havn't tried that. It works like magic. So tell me what brings a smile to your face right now? I done all the candle burning and all that stuff ages ago and was even thinking about putting a clove of garlic over my bed Don't bother doing any OBE etc. not now give it time. I done this when I was at a low point in my life but was on hols with my friend at the time. Anyway I was channeling a spirit and had it all recorded on tape with my friend.... Anyways I freaked the cr@p out off myself when I heard my voice change on the play back. i had nightmares for days and was making myself worse by trapping myself in those same low vibrations. I would advise to stop all this for time...a long time. Do something different, take up a new hobby and then come back to it. you will come back to it it a better and brighter note. but as said before, You are stronger than all that... you'll be right as rain in no time at all. So there's noway that the men in white coats are going to come for you either. So just chill Spirit possession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Mme. Last edited by MmeIntentional; 12-03-2007 at 09:33 PM. | |
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relax. Remember in the astral world its all about how your mind can create things in an instant. If you go about (while youre in the Astral) thinking..."oh my god! demons will come around!" then they will come around. besides theres a significant chance that you simply visited the lower astral realms where all the "less desireable" entities live....(such as demons etc...)
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I had trouble with negative enities in the past, using a house cleansing spell helped put an end to that. I have been told that I fight demon and the likes in my dreams. Have had several recuring dreams, I used to run and hide from them but the last few times I've had this sort of dreams I've stood up to them. What has made the difference to me is that I have Angelic protection now, of course Angels protect me at all times but due to free will they can only do so in life threatening situations. Free will means that you have to ask for and give your permission to them to help in other parts of your life. I have Angelic protection for my house, basically asking them to patrol all sides of the house to keep any negative influence out. Not long after I did this one of my daughter's friends stayed with us. This girl is very gifted in clairsenses - she sees, hears and communicates with spirits. She came out of my bathroom telling me there was something outside, she had seen a figure walking past the window. She tried showing me, she saw it again but I couldn't. I got the message it was an angel. The next night I saw it pass the window and asked it was an angel to show me again, immediately it came back. Last night as I went to bed I got a feeling that an negative influence was close by, I pictured my house from above and saw the Angels patroling it. There seemed to be something on the other side of the fence, I asked the Angels to make sure nothing negative got in and right as I thought that there were 2 large bangs as if someone had hit one of the sheds on the neighbouring property. Usually when I get these feelings there is no way I can sleep but last night I went straight to sleep. To gain angelic protection all you need to do is ask them, outloud or in your head it doesn't matter. Listen and look for signs that they are here, ask for a sign. Some people find feathers. I hear them mostly. Don't be afraid you are taking angels from "more important" tasks, they are omni-present and can be helping millions of people at the same time. For more information try reading books on the subject, Doreen Virtue is my favourite author on the subject. |
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The best answer to fear is faith. Accept your fears and then release them to the universe. It is an act of willpower to accept your fears, to release your fears, and to reside in faith. Your willpower is strong enough you just have to decide when you're going to use it. |
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I support what the folks above have written. The most important thing about all of this scary stuff is to focus on non-scary stuff. I was thinking about the same thing recently so I posted a blog article about it... Answers to the Worlds Problems - Blogs I'd say the first rule of scary demon stuff is avoid it. Especially if you steer clear of the supernatural, your chances of being hit with the demonic are worse than getting eaten by a shark in the local pool. Of the reports of demonic activity, how many have actually invited it by playing with oujia boards, and trying to communicate with the dead? Like trying to start a fight in a seedy bar, if you go out looking for ghosts and demons, you're probably going to find em. But it may not be everything you hoped. Near as I can tell, these li'l jerks (demons and negative entities and such) feed off of fear and anger. So the real trick is not to feed them. Focus on love, and hope, and all those things that rarely make the news cuz they're too pollyanna. If you REALLY crave the supernatural, why not read about angels, and unexplainable occurances of positive things? You don't have to go supernatural to realize that if you expect or are focused on bad things happening, then they usually will. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. So, my best advice is this. Whenever you feel afraid of the supernatural, or the preternatural, if you're religious... pray. If you're not, then the solution is similar. Fill yourself with goodness. Fill yourself to the brim with all the hope and good times and love that you can muster. If these things are attacking from another realm, remember that you were born here and have amazing power in this realm that they have to steal energy from the living to employ. You are nearly infinitely more powerful than any spirit in this realm. Most often these fearful thoughts are just that: thoughts in your head. Most often there is nothing supernatural about them, and by filling yourself with good, there's no room for fear. This is usually true even if the fear IS the result of something outside this realm. If there IS something bad out there, filling yourself with love is the best defense. Their strongest weapons are fear and anger, and if you're too busy loving the world to allow those into yourself, then the bad guys are out of luck. Realize your authority in your life. Realize how much power your positive thoughts have over even real live people in your world let alone phantoms. If you go up to people all down and dejected, how do they respond vs. going to them uplifted and positive? Religious rites, regardless of the source all have the same commonality. They establish your authority and will over the supernatural in your life. Realizing, accepting, and projecting that authority is the first (and probably last) step to eradicating any fear you may have. From the heart, I offer my blessing of peace in your life at all times and in every way. So I'm just one person with as much right and power as any non-living thing to do the opposite. My li'l blessing alone should take out at least one if not all of those stupid li'l buggers. Whenever you feel afraid, remember me (if not the many people around you that love you and feel the same way), and accept it as a token against fear and negativity. I am a real person writing this message directly to you from my home. I'm Alive with blood and passion coursing through my veins. You are reading my words written out of my living desire for you to have peace and to have no fear. How much more powerful is that than an unnamed, uncertain fear? |
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Proxy, there IS something to be afraid of. Do you remember fearing the dark as a child? There's a damn good reason for that. The first thing to know is, that you're already posessed. We all are. Let's drop the word "demon" and "evil," however. Instead, let's use the term "inorganic being." An inorganic being is simply a life form that has no physical body. Apperently there are huge numbers of different species of these beings. But there's one very special species which has taken an interest in the human race (and supposedly many other races, both organic and inorganic) since about 10,000 years ago when they discovered our world! (it's no coincidence farming was started then, we learned it from our masters, from what they do to us!) This life form is a very advanced, old race that survives by parasiting and feeding off a host in a highly developed systematic fashion. There's nothing "evil" about it. It's just how it survives. Every single human has been "infested" at birth and is to some extent, a puppet of their parasite. I would estimate that saying 1 in a million people being free of this parasite, would be a hugely optimistic estimate. If you read the Carlos Castaneda book, Active Side of Infinity, you'll have a nice introduction to these beings, which the book calls "Flyers" because they tend to move in leaps, and can jump up and ride the wind. For those who's perceptions begin to open up, they can begin to see these creatures in the dark, they appear as large shadows even against the pitch black. They will disappear from site upon turning on a light. Supposedly they eat the "glowing coat of awareness" of our energy body, which resembles a luminous egg, leaving only enough of it for us to be caught up in perpetual self-reflection. If they ate it all we might die, and they'd lose the food source. Anyway, aside from these lovely creatures, there are all sorts of other inorganic beings. And best believe, encountering them, really being aware of them is frightening beyond belief. It isn't because they're all out to eat us or something (although some may be). It just tends to be fightening by nature. Some are actually interested in friendships! Usually, since we're all so energetically drained, the only time we really are consciously aware of them is in dreams. They may appear as an animal, object, or person, or if you're capable of seeing energy directly without superflous interpretation, they will appear as energy, just as humans supposedly would appear as a luminous egg to someone who can see energy directly. Not a single one of us here is free of our "flyer"
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LoL Proxy's last activity on this site was in 2007. OOPS >_< Well I PMed some info to proxy and gona try e-mailing as well. >_<
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I'm gonna be harsh here but SNAP OUT OF IT. If you are scared, you will attract them to you as they LOVE FEAR. I've been a spirit medium since the age of 5. They scared the crap out of me too. I had a home that was a portal and they played games with me because I was scared. Severl medium friends told me to SNAP OUT OF IT and control my vibration level and to protect myself with the white light of god.. this is what you must do. If you don't know how to protect yourself.. just do some grounding, burn some sage and walk into it, and change your vibration by saying. I"m in control and you are not to be around me unless you are positive and of good light from God. I have tons of orb pictures and I do not believe they are negative at all. It's their energy and they are just plain nosy and hanging around from time to time checking up on us.
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I am so glad I found this post! I thought it was just me!!! I always believed someone in spirit looked after me and protected me, but since I found out about these "beings", I have become obsessed with protection prayers, visualisation, incense burning and trying to raise my vibration - Feel like i am going insane!! Im normally quite logical and don't scare easily (except with this! Most of the advice is to tell them to go away, they are not welcome etc... I think I would have a stroke at the sight of one let alone tell them anything!! Any suggestions?! xx |
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Hey peeps, this is a really old thread. Proxy may not even be around anymore. Best to start new threads if you want to talk about the same topic you see in an old thread.
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you'll be fine. you have to be in a pretty low place in your life usually for an entity to bother you. they attack when a person is at their weakest. the only advice i can give you is to think positive always. its when you give up on life is when they come to you. The only way you'll know is if you begin to question yourself and your mind because thats where they start. also they will go after your family relationships so stay close to your family. After a while you will know, there will be a sense of the worst loneliness and darkness you have ever felt. and also if you suspect you may have one refrain from using alcohol or drugs, trust me its the worst thing you could do its when you get the closest to your demon. but its a worst case scenerio kind of thing. and even if it does happen there are people that can help. i dont care if someone doesnt believe in them, most people wont until it happens to them. i was one of those skeptics until recently |
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joking Man, i thought OBE could only be performed by people with HIGH Vibrational Frequencies ??... or maybe your frequency of Fear is such that it provokes this phenomenon ??. i am a bit confused... a couple years ago i had to fight for my Soul on the Astral Plane - a Circle of Buddhist "Hell" - my Asian ex wife sent hordes of Demons through a powerful sorcerer unfortunately for her, they failed and i slew all of them the struggle lasted for a couple months or so (i mean while i was sleeping) i could control my Astral Avatar (although strangely i could never, so far, perform OBEs willingly, and while in this Buddhist Hell i was NOT aware i was projecting - looked like PLAIN Reality (ok ok it WAS)) and ended up winning, everytime... ... everytime save for ONE TIME - a demon was too powerful for me - but Buddha's War Lieutenant came to rescue me later some Monks said Buddha has put a "seal" on me - i am protected, whatever... ... the counterpart being that as His "Marked" Son i ll have to undergo tremendous hardships for a very long life, and as his Son i MUST help my Brethren down here KARMA my practical piece of advice/ help: in Asia they use to put a blade (knife, sword, whatever) under their bed (mostly for NewBorn Babies so their souls are not stolen) ... the Demons won t come i tested | |
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