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Old 10-16-2007, 05:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question What do u think Deja vu is/means?

Hey ya'll !!!

Well, I have been wondering what the heck De ja vu is, and why we have it. I just want to hear other people's opinions on it.

Personally, when I have that fleeting moment of; this has all happened before, I know why. It's because I have dreamt it before in lucid dreaming (? that is a new term that I have just learned here, I think I used it right).

Sometimes I can even remember when I had the original dream but most of the time, I just know that I dreamt it a time before...

For example; When I was married living in Austin, Tx. in 2000, I had a dream that I was sitting at a big table looking around at an odd assortment of people. A huge, obese guy, with greasy hair and huge glasses, a tall skinny bald, black guy, a really old man, who looked kinda like a troll with white hair, and a chunky black lady with some real crazy fake hair. They were all wearing ugly grey polos. As I looked down at myself in the dream I realized that I was wearing the same ugly shirt! I thought to myself; "EWW! Theres no way I'd EVER be around a group of people like that, wearing something as ugly as that!" and I woke up. I quickly forgot the dream, passing it off as just your usual make no sense dreams...

Well, about a year ago when I was sitting down at work, to sign in at shift change, somebody said something funny, and as I looked up and laughed I had De ja vu. I looked around and knew who was gonna be around me, only this time, I knew those "ugly, weird" people's names, and I had already been working with them for 4 years, and they are all my friends! I then realized why I felt like I had been there before was because I had dreamt it before. I could even remember that I had dreamt it in Texas almost 5 years earlier! It turns out the ugly shirts we were wearing are part of our uniforms because I am a EMT (emergency medical technician). I had already been living in Louisiana 4 yr.s, divorced, and signed in at that squad table countless times before, and had never had De ja vu or remembered that dream...I waited when that moment happened for something significant or bad to happen, thinking maybe I had that dream for a specific reason and maybe I needed to run or something. But nothing happened. It was just a random moment in time that I had previosly dreamed...

Why do u think??? What is the point of stuff like that?? Should u document it or something or just ignore it??

I have about 8 other specific "de ja vu" occurences like that that I know I had dreamt before, but I cant remember how long before or exactly when. Usually it's a good bit of time earlier, like a year.

During that same time that I lived in Texas I also had a very vivid "lucid" dream. This time I was in a city around high rise buildings and I looked up and saw a man way up about to jump off the building. I ran closer, as if I was gonna catch him or something, and started yelling to others to help me and to call their city EMS and fire department. Then I realized that the man was gonna jump and there was nothing I could do to catch him. I was absolutely horrified as he was falling. I could see his tie flapping in the wind, and horrorfied look his face, and the tear streaked dirty face. I watched him fall and cried too while waiting for him to hit the impact. I was thinking about how there really wouldnt be anything left of him once he hit, and how I didnt want to see it. Then, before he hit the ground, I looked up and saw a lady about to jump also. I woke up then thinking, "What the hell kind of dream was that?? Why would I dream of people jumping off a high rise? Maybe thats gonna happen to me when I am working as a Paramedic oneday, but I have never even seen a high rise like that, and never will work in a big city!" I was bothered by the dream and even told my husband. He just thought I was nuts and could have cared less.
Well, on 9/11/01, I had slept in a little because my son was sick. I woke up and turned on the TV as I layed in bed. Right when I turned it on, the towers had already been hit, and they were showing people clinging on the side. I had no idea right then what had happened. But at that moment the camera zoomed in and a man jumped. He was the exact man I had seen in my dreams! The tie was even flapping the same way I remembered. Right then my heart just broke and I started balling. Before you saw the man go all the way to the ground the camera looked back up and there was that lady in the purple-ish color about to jump....

I have even more stuff like that, but this one question I asked is turning into a dang book!

So, please ya'll, tell me what you personally believe De ja vu is and/or why we have it???
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry, I have no answers for you, but I have experiences the same, at a level that is alarming. I'd say maybe once or twice a week I have that experience where I've dreamed it before, a LONG time ago, and I usually remember being in the dream and can tell what will happen for a few moments. I find it interesting that when I experience de ja vu, that I only remember just a few seconds!
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok, I see this thread hasn't really gotten alot of views or reply's. Kinda disappointing, I really wanted to hear some other theory's I hadn't before...

But, I will reply to myself just in case someone else may be interested...

A friend once told me that she believes De ja vu is the Universe's way of letting you know, affirmation, that your where your supposed to be in life at that point, or on the right track anyway...

I remain open-mined and have no theories of my own yet, but that one has always stuck with me and I haven't forgot it...
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Lets see.... My view is that our true spirit selves have a knowledge from eternities. We chose to come to this earth knowing full well what was down here because we are meant to further our spiritual maturity. I believe we choose our parents and our looks and our life.... Anyways... I think that when we have "De ja vu" is when we catch a glimpse of memory from our true spirit self.

Even if you dont understand WHY you chose the life you did. "Sorrow is better than laughter" When you can understand why this is true in the right context is when you will cease to ask why you chose the things you did however painful they may be.

Damn I never make sense... Hope this helped someone.
Oh... I dont consider myself christian per se.... however you should really read "Embraced by the Light" by Betty J. Eadie
I never would have understood the concepts in the book had I not taken the drugs I had and lived my life... certain ways. its all based on timing. If its not time for you to read a book dont. its best to read it when you have the desire to.

Not making sense again.... lol ok thats it ciao.


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Old 10-20-2007, 09:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I saw James Ray speak at a free seminar designed to force or guilt you into buying his products. But the one cool thing I took from his speech was a diagram of some quantum scientist's view of how time really works. They claim time is not linear, as many theorists believe. That time is really stacked like a pile of pancakes.



_______________future
_______________future
_______________ future
_______________ now
_______________ past
_______________ past
_______________ past

So we are not really progressing through time as if it was one long river. We are in the same basic place, time-wise, just experiencing it as if it's changing as WE change. As soon as I saw this, I thought of deja vu. I believe now that deja vu experiences are waves in that time stack that blip old or future "memories" into our current reality.


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Old 10-24-2007, 01:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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One way to explain deja vu would be to ask Hermione Granger from Harry Potter books. She has a technique for time travel that really enables her to make the most of her time. She stops time and reviews things to jog her memory before starting the clocks for everyone again.

I also like Halcyon's view. If you believe in past lives and relayed experiences about reincarnation, this works. Many people feel as though they have been to places before or recognize innate skills without recent training. Past life regression under hypnosis can uncover incredible stories along these lines. Personality traits can be often explained by life choices.

If you're really curious, and sincerely believe in connections between a series of soul-level experiences, you can also explore your Akashic records.
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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But my deja vu experiences aren't related to place. They related to placement. As in that guy was standing there and that smell was here and I was saying this same thing to that girl.

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Old 05-19-2010, 09:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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da ja vu to me is a future event that must happen no matter what you do it will happen, you can't change it and i will tell you why!!!

when you realize that you have experienced da ja vu ur like wow but it has to happen so you realize or feel the sensation of da ja vu. so the only way to have this experience is doing something you feel you have done before but this feeling is just the feeling of strangeness.

I have experienced da ja vu about 2/3 weeks ago and I am sure that i had felt I had done that like years ago. you don't know you have experienced da ja vu until you have done it thats why in inavoidable.

so overall da ja vu is a future event that will happen but you have to do this event before you realise it's da ja vu hope you all realise that my theory on this is correct 100%.
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I experience intense déjà vu about once a month or so. I think it's usually things I've dreamt before. As to why it happens, I have no clue! Maybe in our sleep we access information about the future?

Mine is usually really silly stuff, like walking down the street with someone. (ETA: Well, that was my latest one: I experienced intense déjà vu while walking down the street at my college with my friend's sister, whom I had never accompanied anywhere before and doesn't go to my school, and we had actually only met once. It was bizarre.)

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Old 05-20-2010, 06:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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laceyjay10,

You ask an interesting question, a difficult question to respond to because there is no definitive answer, but many theories. Here is another and it has to do with time. Linear time as we know it was created by the human experience to provide a means to move through the physical world on a day-to-day basis. Time actually runs vertically up to the future and down to the past, all occurring at precisely the same moment. I first read of this concept in Conversation with God. Time has always proved to be a tough nut to crack.

So, with time and events all happening at once in a vertical column, your Soul can move up or down through time while you are sleeping. This Soul activity can manifest itself to you in dreams of the past, even past lives, or precognitive knowledge of future events. Sometimes you are left with an unconscious memory that we experience as Deja Vu. Your Soul travelled up through time and registered a memory.

There is also a theory about your Soul travelling to a parallel Universe where the timeline is skewed from ours. That is a tougher one to get a handle on.

So here is just one way to look at the Deja Vu experience. There are some who do not believe in the phenomenon at all. I have had enough of them to be a believer whatever the actual mechanism is does not matter. It would be nice to know with certainty, but either way it's okay.


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Old 05-21-2010, 10:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Here is how I remember it explained. Its like a wrinkle in the time we perceive. Dejavu is like reexperiencing the future. Kinda hard to grasp but it's funny how we think of time on this plane anyway. We are a speck of eternal dust. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around it. It's like a second chance before you reach the moment. Maybe if by chance we jump to a parallel dimension most of what we know comes with us. I'm talking in the blink of an eye. On a very similar road so slightly changed like a wrinkle in time. I know where you're coming from with the 911stuff I had airplane dreams for atleast 3 yrs. Prior. I've had more dejavus than I could count. I really do believe I've jumped dimensions more than once. Such as escaping a seemingly unexcapable auto accident recently. I think somewhere on a different dimension life continued for every one but me, but continued in the blink of an eye as I truly have no evidence. I like this topic. Very interesting views from all.
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I experince De-ja-vu alot. But then again i dream my near future.
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I experience intense déjà vu about once a month or so. I think it's usually things I've dreamt before. As to why it happens, I have no clue! Maybe in our sleep we access information about the future?
No, in our sleep we plan our future.. then when we remember it consciously we call that "deja vu"

There the questions answered.. everybody go home now (for the record I have answered this question no less then 4+ times on this forum in the last year.. we need a Deja Vu wiki! )

Obviously, if you don't believe me.. then you can keep playing the "wonder why" game
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I've never really had de ja vu, but when I started my current job 3 years ago I had a strange feeling that I had met everyone there already. It was such an odd feeling I even asked some of them "have we met before", and they said no.
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Trinity: What did you just say?
Neo: Nothing. Just had a little déjà vu.
Trinity: What did you see?
Cypher: What happened?
Neo: A black cat went past us, and then another that looked just like it.
Trinity: How much like it? Was it the same cat?
Neo: It might have been. I'm not sure.
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Neo: What is it?
Trinity: A déjà vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:57 AM   #16 (permalink)
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To me dejavu is more of a feeling that relates to a set of images im seeing, which tells me I am on the right track. Dreaming of future events is more a psychic foreseeing in my book involving other people.....
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No, in our sleep we plan our future.. then when we remember it consciously we call that "deja vu"

There the questions answered.. everybody go home now (for the record I have answered this question no less then 4+ times on this forum in the last year.. we need a Deja Vu wiki! )

Obviously, if you don't believe me.. then you can keep playing the "wonder why" game
YES totally agree with this definition.
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This is going to sound strange...but then again, look at the questions we get on this forum.

Deja vu is us, as a soul, re-visiting that same moment in our physical bodies again. Sounds strange I know. Why would we want to do that? There can be a variety of reasons depending on the person. It could be an important moment that we want to change, make a different choice, say something different, have a validation about something, or even enjoy the moment again - I've had a variety of each of these and I'm sure many people have too.

Yes, we can have a dream about something, see it precognitively, even plan it while asleep and then it comes to pass. But typically to me it has a different feeling to it and I'll remember that I had a dream/vision about something when it does actually happen. With deja vu I could tell you exactly what the conversation/actions are going to be with everyone involved - it is that crystal clear and a decidedly different experience - for me at least.
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A déjà vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.
I was thinking of that, too.

From now on, I declare that in my experience of life, the universe, and everything, deja vu is a sign of my reality shifting.
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laceyjade10...I absolutely love your story and assessment of the deja-vu experience. I think everyone that's posted here has a really valid take on what this is.
I see deja-vu as a reminder that I am at the helm of all that I come to experience, whether in my dreaming reality or my waking reality & that there is very little difference between the two.

Whenever I experience deja-vu, it puts me into that place where I can sense the magic of reality and consciousness itself. It serves to remind me that "life is but a dream....and I am the dreamer of all that I experience.

Synchronicity is another phenomena that has the same effect.
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it's the instance when you've seen the future and you remmeber it from your past. Deja vu memories can be from you dozing off, or when you're dreaming. I had deja vu just yesterday, I recognized the situation from one of my dreams
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Firts off, there's a power in all living things.
We are mistaking when we think that dreams are subconcious.
Dreams are told/projected by this power.

A deja vu:
1) you dreamed about something and later see this.
2) Something you see is so simular as to what you've seen before
3) You get the idea/feeling that what you see is something you've seen before.

In every case the power is involved.
1) He has given the dream prior to what you see, and he lets you recognise it and even remeber the dream sometimes. And he gives you this Dejavu feeling.
2) He lets you remember this and he gives you this Dejavu feeling.
3) He gives you this Dejavu feeling.

When you're not psychic or have a sixth sense, you're not aware that the power is giving you dreams or visions, thats all.

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It is my understanding that de ja vu is a memory-marker in one's life. We have experienced this same life time over and over again. For some, this is a blessing, allowing them to change things that were unacceptable in the first experiencing of this life.

De ja vu is also a direct link to the life force.

So how many times do we live the same identical life? I imagine, for some, until we or God are satisfied with the results. You hear talk about "this is my last lifetime on Earth." They have, perhaps, straightened out this lifetime to their satisfaction.

In considering the Donut Universe, this not only makes sense, the means to do it are at your disposal.
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I'm sure you've asked this question before.....haven't you?
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This is going to sound strange...but then again, look at the questions we get on this forum.

Yes, we can have a dream about something, see it precognitively, even plan it while asleep and then it comes to pass. But typically to me it has a different feeling to it and I'll remember that I had a dream/vision about something when it does actually happen. With deja vu I could tell you exactly what the conversation/actions are going to be with everyone involved - it is that crystal clear and a decidedly different experience - for me at least.
For me that would be the answer, theres 2 instances when i traced back my deja vu experiences to dream, like a one second dream. IMO we have a lot of those one moment dreams but usually forget but remember the normal dreams.
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It is my understanding that de ja vu is a memory-marker in one's life. We have experienced this same life time over and over again. For some, this is a blessing, allowing them to change things that were unacceptable in the first experiencing of this life.

De ja vu is also a direct link to the life force.

So how many times do we live the same identical life? I imagine, for some, until we or God are satisfied with the results. You hear talk about "this is my last lifetime on Earth." They have, perhaps, straightened out this lifetime to their satisfaction.

In considering the Donut Universe, this not only makes sense, the means to do it are at your disposal.
This is an explanation Royster that really resonates....gave me goose bumps actually!
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Thanks, Inri. This is my experience, and as I am on a fairly 'unique' path, it might not be for everyone...yet. But I do know some of the inner workings of the multi-verses (I've been sent to the Prinicpal's Office more than once) and this is what I know: in severe cases (mine is one) we are sent back to re-live a life to correct deep problems we've created. This could well-explain "WalkIns", but I can't say.

Suffice it to say that I have been through "Cosmic Rehab" so my path is, indeed, different.
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Thanks, Inri. This is my experience, and as I am on a fairly 'unique' path, it might not be for everyone...yet. But I do know some of the inner workings of the multi-verses (I've been sent to the Prinicpal's Office more than once) and this is what I know: in severe cases (mine is one) we are sent back to re-live a life to correct deep problems we've created. This could well-explain "WalkIns", but I can't say.

Suffice it to say that I have been through "Cosmic Rehab" so my path is, indeed, different.
This really interest me Roy....and it is very interesting as well to me that you choose to perceive and frame these experiences through the lens of 'punishment' 'rehab' etc. (I actually love...and laughed out loud at the reference to 'principal's office!).

I'm wondering what could happen (& I apologize if I'm overstepping here) if you could instead try to perceive such an opportunity as a gift....rather than a punishment.... Simply as an opportunity that YOU chose from the perspective of spirit, to take in order to 're-experience' a specific physical life through an expanded perspective?

I personally have a hard time imagining that spirit sees anything as a 'deep problem.' But then we are all different.

I wonder if such a shift might allow you to view the acoutrements of this physical world that presently cause you to experience grief and separation, through 'softer eyes.'
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First: you're one of the few people I've ever seen use the word 'acoutrements'. HooooooRAY for vocabulary!

Second: in no place during my post did I use the word "punishment". Perhaps, in being sparce with my post, the imagery came out askew. Just as I know 'evil' simply means 'misuse of power', I know that punishment is man's device, not The God Of My Understanding's.

I was a disruptive energy in the LifeStream. Now I'm just a rascal.
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a "mechanical" explanation would be you dreamed this situation before without knowing you did, i know this, if you look on photos you made and said "ohh right i forget about this already" or something on your day you see reminds you of something and you recognize, that it was from a dream.
It relates somehow to the same feeling, but the other feels more mystical because there is no access to information.


But honestly i have no clue, what it is.

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