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Old 09-28-2007, 01:16 AM
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A past discussion thread emerged inquiring about thought on prophecies for 2012. Readers may be interested in reading about indigo children and adults. What have you heard? Do you think you know any? Might you sense a more personal connection? This 2005 book by PMH Atwater "Beyond Indigo Children: the Coming of the 5th world" looks beyond indigo children makes a connection with 2012:

According to prophecy, the fifth sun or fifth world of the Mayan calendar moves into a higher octave of vibration, or ascension, on December 21, 2012. This date represents a "gateway" of planetary development that will open humanity to new ways of living and new worlds of opportunity. Ancient traditions have foretold that our successful passage through this gateway depends on the "fifth root race"--new stock in the human gene pool--destined to help us through the exciting and massive changes ahead.

Children of Now by by Meg Blackburn Loosey is another source and Doreen Virtue also writes about this subject.
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Honestly I have not been impressed by the indigo children. I still find the older groups are more active in changing their consciousness; at least for the aspects of consciousness I'm working with. Maybe the indigos have their own slice of the consciousness pie and me and my classmates don't interact with them too much.

Stuff I read on the internet about indigo children and crystal children is too new agey for me. Maybe I need different sources? All in all I don't see the youngins affecting consciousness all too much. (Though they may be the group who can readily be good sponges to receive and live the new consciousness as 2012 approaches. I don't see any ambition on their part yet.)

I don't think success depends on any one group incarnating on earth. If so I might as well sit back and have a beer and forget about practicing and teaching. And there really is not a way to "fail" here anyway. Those that can make the shift will stay on Earth, those that cannot will probably incarnate on another world to do what they're doing now.
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Ermm well for me, I would consider myself an Indigo Children, but NOT because I have some new colour in my aura, but because I consciously choose to LIVE my life. Steve is some sort of Indigo Child in MY books, because he has that something special. I suppose for me, Indigo-ism is a state of mind, not a physical attribute.
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do you have any links to learn more about Indigo children? I'd like to read more on the topic:-)
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Dharma: Thanks for your reflections Personally, I don't think the idea of indigo children is meant to impress us or spread a new sense of "success." What if part of their purpose in being here is to simply to provoke new thinking? I mean, why would they come? If each human has the power and abilities to make a positive difference in the evolution of the world through evolving consciousness inside the self, yet each person isn't taking such initiatives, or doesn't know how, a phenomenon like indigo children might spark reflection and a positive trigger effect. We could make analogies with thoughts of angels, elementals or other influences that may cause people to think differently in terms of possibilities. As for how they relate to the 2012 prophecy, that would depend on your perception and/or scepticism of indigo potential.

Akashic_Librarian: I like your view. For me, when I think of indigo, my mind wanders to a color range from a deep violet blue to a dark, grayish blue. To make an analogy, if a concept or person evokes a range of positive thoughts and feelings, then it makes sense to reframe "indigo children" as different kinds of positive influences on our lives. After all, you find exactly what you seek, in whatever forms appear most meaningful to you.

Old Soul: For additional suggestions, you could check out Indigo children & the future of humanity - Dream Builders - Dream Builders: Empower more than Motivation & Goal -setting
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What really turns me off is when authors like Wendy Chapman refer to indigos as "higher-level children." They are DIFFERENT level children. Higher-level children can, and do, fail at life just as "normal" kids do. And by normal I mean those who are an original earth soul, an extraterrestrial soul, or an angelic transfer.
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The increasing diagnosis of ADD and ADHD in children may overlook the reality of a different kind of generation that has arrived for a purpose.
When I read this I think of the box we put kids in as far as the education field goes. Are most ADD/ADHD kids diagnosed by their performance at school? If the indigos are here to break down structure, that would be a place to start. A very tough place IMO since our society has so much tied up in a good education.
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Hi Dharma.
I sense people tend to struggle to describe anything that is different from what they think they know. Based on our own experience and understanding of things, we may disagree with the accuracy of someone else's views. Until all humans evolve to interpret and grasp things the same way, that's life.

Consider that when you try a new food or drink, your instinct may be to compare the new experience with past experience. People will say that the taste of frogs legs reminds them of chicken or, a sip of foreign wine reminds them of familiar fruit juice flavors. Many people draw comparisons help to ground themselves. Most people wish to grasp an idea and really pin it down. Only then, it bothers them less because they have a sense of control.

In terms of school, conventional and unconventional systems exist. Whether or not you're an indigo child, you may struggle within out-dated systems that only tend to evaluate a limited range of intelligence and skills. Your strengths may simply ly outside this range. Some kids labelled as "advanced" or otherwise different (possibly disruptive, impatient) in regular classes, excel in specialized curricula or home schooling. The issue isn't accessible education for indigos or other different children. Its that rigid mindsets often prefer to diagnose difference as 'problem cases' to be isolated from what are perceived to be normal children. Consider who's view of normal is implied. Perhaps the view of those people who exert control in government, corporations, education, policy and over-reaching structures. Does "not normal" translate into a threat to their view of status quo? I'd say not necessarily, but that wouldn't likely be how these people interpret things or we wouldn't be discussing this subject.

Rather than label kids as outside the 'status quo,' school systems could choose to expand on the range of skills developed, valued and encouraged. Thus, the notion of good education wouldn't be so limited. History shows us that people like Thomas Edison, Richard Branson and many other successes who have enriched societies have been kicked out of traditional school and written off as would-be failures. Although they were called "stupid" early on, their intelligence was simply mislabelled, misjudged and misunderstood. Indigo childrens may yet inspire new kinds of positive change (before 2012?)
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Let me tell ya, working with children the past couple months, I have meet some pretty high kids. Very calm centered, very knowledgeable about subjects like meditation! Very exciting times ahead.
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Great to hear from you, Wayne. What kinds of abilities have you encountered in the children you've worked with? Any telepathy or psychics?

I think many people underestimate the positive influences children can exert generally. Indigo children would be no exception. For example, children tend to me more direct and honest with feelings than adults. Children also have their own ideas about things. Adults tend to explain what is 'right and wrong,' 'acceptable or unacceptable' from the point of view of conditioned adults. Very few adults remember the playfulness of their innocence in ways that guide their adult choices and minds.
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Let me tell ya, working with children the past couple months, I have meet some pretty high kids. Very calm centered, very knowledgeable about subjects like meditation! Very exciting times ahead.
My daughter (8 years) and I went to our first Zen meditation, introduced to us by a Buddhist monk. Despite her age she spend almost 1 hour of meditation. She likes simple food, like plain rice. She had seen inexistent dogs inside our home. She is a normal girl, however I believe is a kind of indigo level behavior...
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I believe you never see more clearly then when you are a child!

Totally agree 100 percent!!

My sweet child of God and Rhyme
A wonder and parable told
In seized moments of experience
And grand imaginings
Can I know your soul
and free thinking..
Who do you pray to ?
these child prayers of heaven
in your short lived truths
Always running to become
Yet you do not burden with them
In childlike wisdom you wonder
Is freedom not walked in barefeet
the shiny stone a child secret
that he might joy for the first time
and bless the Angel with song.
These deeper things of heaven for the child.
And when you giggle and stir in adult places
And fear that furrowed brow
a reflection of adult spankings and forbodings
from the Gods of adulthood
Would you bow your head and the Angel of innocense
keep you hidden from these glimpses of so called adult justice
Or she bow her head in wait of you
In this adult world where laughter appears
forbidden a curse of the aged hardened heart.
In this the Angel beckons you
Continue to walk across sharp rocks
picking up snakes and scorpions
and sleep a peaceful sleep upon your bed of faith
while you dream your forever dreams of change
Inside a fortress built from a plain cardboard box
This is your hour and song in celebration.....
But would you grow to rebel
And the Angels step back along the sidelines
cheering you in a song of encouragement
when your truths are not heard in purity and shared heart?
But misunderstood by a pretentiousnous a child has yet to identify
These adult fears of heaven passing them by
For this reason you are called to throw open heaven's gates
Inviting all without predjudice and malice
as only seen and known to the child of God and Ryme..
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Thanks for the poem. Many adults may indeed find it hard to accept that they choose to see life and themselves as they do.

The idea of indigo children emerging can be seen as an opportunity for people to rethink the value of certain traits in humans of all ages. After all, reflect back. Who told you that certain beliefs and choices are wrong? Why did you decide to believe others or, give into your fear of imagined consequences? You give yourself reason to hide. You can also give yourself reason to see anew.

If people are drawn to grasp a different view of quantum physics and shake up their perceived sense of reality, imagine all the good that could come out of this before 2012! One key point is to help people to confront age-old standards and beliefs that are out-dated.
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Hey Liara.

I find this concept very interesting. I had never heard of indigo children until last night, but I believe I'm one of them. I guess you can chalk it up to the old intuition, I've realized is very highly developed in myself, but I get a strong sense that this is a true phenomenon. The descriptions fit me perfectly! I understand what the Barnum and Forer effects are, and those characteristics aren't vague enough for everyone to be able to answer affirmatively.

This is all so interesting because even 2 weeks ago I would have described myself as an agnostic. I was the skeptic's skeptic. But over a period of, maybe a few days I've had a personal epiphany of sorts. Steve and Erin's blogs were part of that, and when I read about "indigo children," I finally had to register and post . I'm a 22 year old male.
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I am one of a large world-wide community of radical unschoolers - folks who are consciously deciding to raise their kids with thoughtfulness, awareness and compassion. (Not raise the kids so the kids will have those, but using those attributes in raising the kids) Many, many people started unschooling because they had a high-needs child, and they did not like what they saw happening in schools. Lots of these kids would have been diagnosed with Asbergers, or ADHD, but because radical unschoolers work from a place of celebrating what your child can do, not focusing on what they can't do, most forego getting any kind of diagnoses.

What I have seen is amazing - given time, patience, a lot of autonomy and love and connection, these kids are growing up to be amazing young adults. Fully aware of their gifts and passions - or at least knowing that knowledge will come with time. These are kids that would have been labeled in school and made to feel inferior because they didn't fit the curriculum and status quo. My heart aches for kids who receive these labels, and are forced to try to fit into the school-mold. My sister is a special-needs teacher, so I know folks in the system are truly coming from a place of concern - but the system doesn't truly serve these children.

Are they indigo? Is there a reason so many parents are responding by totally rearranging their lives so their children can thrive? I don't know. I do know that many of these kids are aware, deep, totally conscious beings - they are already eagles.

There have been unschoolers as long as there has been school - but this seems like a whole shift in how kids are related to and treated. It feels like we're riding a wave of energy. I don't have an explanation for it.
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I very much match the description of an indigo child. It's somewhat uncanny how well I fit the description. Now you could put that down to my particular upbringing in terms of the values that were instilled in me by my environment, but you could also say that I was more prone to acquiring certain values due to my high degree of resonance with them.

But I’ll mention when I say “indigo child”, I more so refer to the traits (ie. “warriors spirit”, etc, etc), not so much the role (“bring about a new era and transform consciousness”, etc).

On that note, there's a good chance that this idea was coined by someone who was simply really good at generalising themes they found were common in children being born into this particular time period, but I don't let that bother me. Instead, I say, “how is it useful to me? Does the general concept still hold up even if you change around specific details (such as the role of the “indigo children”, explanations as to why these children exist, etc)?”

To both questions I’d have to answer “yes”. If you are a sceptic and find the concept too “new agey”, I suggest you listen to the feedback your emotions/logic/intuition is giving you and move onto something that resonates with you more. Just as you don’t watch a TV show you don’t like when you can change the channel, don’t try to “prove” or “make yourself feel better about” concepts that don’t feel right to you.

If you feel the need to do such things, from my experience/observations, it's probably more so about an unconscious, conditioned mental pattern trying to maintain your sense of self/certainty then it is about a genuine attempt to align yourself with concepts and ideals that seem accurate. Before you try to prove accuracy, first make sure the lens you're trying to prove accuracy through isn't sabotaged by any automatic, unconscious conditioning that you're not aware of.

Interestingly, lately I’ve noticed a sort of synchronistic pull towards the topic of indigo children. As far as I can tell, regardless of the model you interpret this through, the message seems to be “embrace your differences and stop resisting them/the process”. The more I seem to accept concepts like these, regardless of what people say or whether I have the logic to “prove” why I should accept it, the better I feel and the more effective I can be.

I’m sure there will be those who say “you’re just being unscientific and illogical”, but that type of thinking is the very thinking that my “message” is prompting me to avoid! Such thinking certainly has some validity, but I’d rather be effective and slightly delusional with the potential of actually being accurate then be not very effective while trying to make my life a kingdom of reason.
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Interestingly, lately I’ve noticed a sort of synchronistic pull towards the topic of indigo children.
Yeah man I feel this as well. Completely trusting my intuition is still a strange experience for me. I've always felt out of place in school and with friends, and so I think I shut the intuitive and empathic senses down. I couldn't handle it.

Much of what I've found in my research online is just validating what I already knew deep down: My mind doesn't work the way most people's do, I have some kind of connection with a deeper reservoir of knowledge, some kind of special purpose, etc.

Now I'm trying to trust those senses again, and it seems to be taking me to some pretty wild places The indigo children phenomenon is true in my reality, because it gives my life purpose. It's an awesome feeling.

If anybody else has had this experience, speak up because I'd love to hear it.
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I think I was born an indigo but that I am no longer one. I'm not sure what I am now. But I no longer fit the profile. I have moved past the typical indigo dysfunctions. Thank god. Theirs is not a fun life.

The conventional wisdom believes that indigos were born to challenge the status quo, not to necessarily be the leaders of the new realm or to lead people into the new realm. More of the recon/prep team.

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Whether Indigo, Austitic, Crystal, or whatever we want to label an individual's consciousness, all of them are contributing to the "consciousness pool" and therefore raising all the boats in the sea. The uniqueness of 2012 for me is the "collective consciousness" that I believe is emerging and will be akin to the Axial Age- but greater.
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HI guys im new here, i had a simple question,
well i been told by at least 5 people now that i am a indigo child, but really how would you know if you were one? simply taking persons word for it??
or can... indigo's pick eachother out?? like... ah! there's one!
i hate not really knowing what i am
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Indigos have their place in the evolution of the consciousness of man but I wouldn't seek to model one. They are pretty dysfunctional on the whole. Most of these kids need the short bus, if you know what I mean.

They were discovered by aura readers. At a certain point in the late 20th century, aura readers began seeing a vast increase in the color indigo in many children and some adults. They began to classify the characteristics of these people. Sullen, sensitive, fragile, loners, insomniacs, autisics, compassion-less, or extreme empaths to the point of disability, emotional overload, impatient, intolerant, rage-ful, bossy, fearful...though there are positives as well. Natural leaders. Born with knowledge others have to work harder for. Fine motor skills at a very young age. No fear of technology. Strong intuition.

They are already becoming less common. Their time was relatively short, like 30 years, but with the shift coming so soon, undoubtedly their appearance was critical. They exist to change the status quo and to raise the vibration of our plane.

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Okay, I don't know anything about Indigo Children, but watch this by Sir Ted Robinson about our education system:

TED | Talks | Sir Ken Robinson: Do schools kill creativity? (video)

He's VERY funny, VERY insightful...I know it looks long, but watch a bit, and you'll probably get sucked in. It's about how our education system (in the USA) is geared towards getting kids in college, and how it stifles creativity, which should be as important as math and science, etc.

I guess I don't really buy the "indigo children" thing--not that I can't be wrong, or that I know that much about it, it just seems like one of those excuses to call certain people "different" or "special." The ADD phenomena is similar--I think there's more kids with ADD because it hasn't been around that long. I'm not saying it's not valid, but people use it as a crutch--my own sister for one.

But, if anyone has some compelling info to send in my direction, please do so.
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One of my nieces has many of the positive characteristics of an Indigo, a few of the negatives, but when I mentioned it to my sister, I got a very cold reception. From a person virtually incapable of being cold. So that was bad. I am guessing