Plenty of money in the world… How come you don’t have any…???

[Shamou]

My old friend and mentor Dr Richard Yennie once said, “There is plenty of money in the world… and if you don’t have any it’s because you are either lazy, stupid or both…”

That really struck home for me… I knew that the guy was right… his remark was indelibly implanted in my head… and it has been a great source of inspiration and motivation for me…

The choice was clear… I could admit to being lazy… stupid… or both… not real options… so, the last acceptable course of action was to get my fingers out of my nose and get some money…

It worked for me… and I hope that some of you guys can take some inspiration from Yennie’s message… and chose your option…

Now, there are those who do not see money as being a priority... I respect that... and I do wish you the very best of luck in achieving whatever it is that you do want... and I sincerely that no one will be offended by this post...

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[silicon toad2000]

I feel that stupid is a little harsh.
I'm sure there are plenty of very intelligent people who just haven't been exposed to the right knowledge to gain a lot of that wealth.
That being said I often echo that sentiment. There are a lot of people out there who are not wealthy with good reason.

[Carl Carlson IV]

I feel I need a good kick in the butt. I am pretty lazy, and unintelligent a lot of the times (figure it's better than saying stupid).

"Plenty of money in the world… How come you don’t have any…???"
That's a mighty fine question and I ask myself that pretty much every day. Although his answer is mostly true in my case, I don't really want to accept it. Meh, I don't know... I've been pretty pessimistic lately.

[Carl Carlson IV]

Ok, Shamou, I need to ask you something. This has absolutely nothing to do with the thread, but just bear with me. You can just answer this then move on like it was never asked.

How come every single one of your posts ends like this:

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It's not even your signature because it's above the "__________" line. Do you intentionally space down two lines and type "." after every post?

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[n_vizion]

That is some fanstastic advice. I will use that to motivate my actions daily.

To be completely honest....many of us do have money. We just make unwise decisions with what we have and claim that we want more of it.

I wholeheartedly believe that there's plenty of anything that we want, we just need to do the things necessary to get it.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by silicon toad2000
I feel that stupid is a little harsh.

My friend Richard is a motivational genius… and he used the words “and if you don’t have any it’s because you are either lazy, stupid or both…" sentence for shocking value… and, in my case, it worked… I never forgot that sentence…

I'm sure there are plenty of very intelligent people who just haven't been exposed to the right knowledge to gain a lot of that wealth.

No one would dispute that… and this post is not being derogatory toward those people… it is simply a wake up call for the movers and shakers who might be slacking a little…

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[XeutonMojukai]

For some, shock value like that works.

For others, it only takes away from the courage needed to step up.

~ David

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Carl Carlson IV

Ok, Shamou, I need to ask you something. This has absolutely nothing to do with the thread, but just bear with me. You can just answer this then move on like it was never asked.

How come every single one of your posts ends like this:

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It's not even your signature because it's above the "__________" line. Do you intentionally space down two lines and type "." after every post?

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Simply because I like neatness in a post presentation... it separates the core of my message from the signature...

I have been doing that for well over 10,000 posts... so, it is now an automatic reflex...

Plus... it pisses some people off... which also appeals to my nature...

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[John Hill]

Some interesting food for thought Is Money Everything?

John

Attracting People.com

[Ree]

Originally Posted by Shamou

No one would dispute that… and this post is not being prerogative toward those people… it is simply a wake up call for the movers and shakers who might be slacking a little…

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Don't you mean derogatory, rather than prerogative? A prerogative means "right." As in, it is a woman's prerogative to change her mind. (Hope you don't mind my pointing that out. Just trying to be helpful.

By the way I think your friend's statement was right on! I think there is a sliding scale of what amounts to "enough" money for different folks. But outside of being raised by wolves, there's no valid reason for anyone to be unable to make money these days.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Ree

Don't you mean derogatory, rather than prerogative?

You are quite right... and I just edited my post... thanks for pointing it out...

BTW... have you ever seen a woman change her mind after she's told you that you had done something wrong...???

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[Sam988]

Originally Posted by John Hill

Some interesting food for thought Is Money Everything?

About the text,



Yes, dreams are actually everything, but the more money one has, the bigger dreams one can have, and the bigger dreams one has, the happiest the person is (at least for me). So money is VERY, VERY important for happiness (as i said before, at least for me)

[Amadeus]

Shamou, I think "getting money" for money's sake is a little silly. Money follows those who give. If you can contribute in unique ways the money will come if there is a need for it. I agree with the lazy part. Lazy is just another word for someone who is not giving, or even worse they are a taker. The ghettos and slums are full of takers. However, it doesn't seem like that can keep money for very long.
Bill Gates of course is a multi-billionaire. I'm not a psychic, but I can about guess that his initial goal was not to make loads of money. The money came when he executed a need that so many people wanted.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

Shamou, I think "getting money" for money's sake is a little silly.

I wholeheartedly agree with you... For one thing... "real" money is nothing tangible... it's power... and that money/power is only on loan for you, and for you to use for a span of time only... you get to manage it... if you will...

And, in my view... what is most important is not really the money... the most important and rewarding thing is who you have to become in order to acquire that money... now, that is tangible... it is who you are...

Also, I have seen people go after money for the sake of having it... and none of them was ever happy... and I have seen people acquire money because they were passionate about doing certain work... and, those were happy...

Money will not bring happiness... but, who you are, might...

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[Eggzachery]

Originally Posted by Ree

Don't you mean derogatory, rather than prerogative? A prerogative means "right." As in, it is a woman's prerogative to change her mind. (Hope you don't mind my pointing that out. Just trying to be helpful.

By the way I think your friend's statement was right on! I think there is a sliding scale of what amounts to "enough" money for different folks. But outside of being raised by wolves, there's no valid reason for anyone to be unable to make money these days.

Actually, I think he meant pejorative.

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Which means derogatory.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Eggzachery

Actually, I think he meant pejorative.

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Which means derogatory.

You are correct in the sense that what I had in mind was pejorative... but what I did type was prerogative... but, now I think that all is OK...

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[Alex2007]

Originally Posted by silicon toad2000

I feel that stupid is a little harsh.

I would say the same.

I' m personally trying too hard, and I am stressing my self too much in order to find my peace. Somebody calling me Stupid and Lazy because I am still trying is stupid himslef.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Alex2007

I would say the same.

I' m personally trying too hard, and I am stressing my self too much in order to find my peace. Somebody calling me Stupid and Lazy because I am still trying is stupid himslef.

When that sentence was said, it was addressed to some specific persons... and not to people in general... so, there is no need for you to get upset over that...

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[silicon toad2000]

So I guess in a room full of people attending motivational lectures, one could make a reasonably safe assumption that most people in the room have been exposed to the right tools and knowledge and in speaking to the majority perhaps that statement could be correct.
I feel that perhaps now it has been taken from it's original demographic, it's intended meaning may not have carried over quite the way it was intended.
Still I see where you're coming from now.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by silicon toad2000

So I guess in a room full of people attending motivational lectures, one could make a reasonably safe assumption that most people in the room have been exposed to the right tools and knowledge and in speaking to the majority perhaps that statement could be correct.
I feel that perhaps now it has been taken from it's original demographic, it's intended meaning may not have carried over quite the way it was intended.
Still I see where you're coming from now.

Dr. Richard Yennie was talking to three thousand Chiropractors when he said that...

However, since this is a forum on "Self Development for Smart People" I rationalized that the audience was mature enough to assimilate such a statement...

I have given many conferences on Motivation and I have found that, in many cases, tough love can be the best way of taking the message home... You gotta break some eggs to make a good omelet... and, sometimes, you've got to rattle some brains to wake them up...

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[PMcDonald]

Originally Posted by Shamou

I have given many conferences on Motivation and I have found that, in many cases, tough love can be the best way of taking the message home... You gotta break some eggs to make a good omelet... and, sometimes, you've got to rattle some brains to wake them up...

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Great point!

At a conference in which I saw Andy Andrews speak, he was talking about being a better friend, family member, etc. and was talking about how if you asked people what the best trait that their closest friends and family members had, most people would say "they accept me for who I am."

Then he said, and I love this, "Heck the guy at the McDonald's drive thru accepts you for who you are are! A true friend will call you on your excuses and challenge you to be a better person."

That is so true.

We all deserve people in our lives that will take a stand for our greatness, and we deserve to do the same for others.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by PMcDonald

We all deserve people in our lives that will take a stand for our greatness, and we deserve to do the same for others.

Great minds think alike...

Good post and very well said... hope that the point will be taken by those aspiring to success...

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[Freelancer]

“There is plenty of money in the world… and if you don’t have any it’s because you are either lazy, stupid or both…”

And on top of that your also very selfish...


Try talking to a poor person for 15 minutes, I'm willing to bet that he'll be steering the conversation towards what he's lacking almost always and that the rich in general contribute SO much more to the society.

[finandom]

Lazy? Or should we say not enough motivation?

I believe that if someone motivated enough, eventually it will take action or break the laziness.

[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by ********

Lazy? Or should we say not enough motivation?

I believe that if someone motivated enough, eventually it will take action or break the laziness.

Not really, its often a ingrained habit. They habitually go into inaction while feeling bad about it at the same time. You might be extremely motivated to take action but end up sitting on your butt thinking of excuses.

[Jes]

I think that's a fair statement. I'm lazy, which is why I don't have money. I know where the money is and how to get it, but I haven't had any motivation to take it for myself. A lot of people, including a younger me, believe that money isn't everything or that having a lot of money is a foolish/selfish goal. To that, I say money is an essential tool for survival. The more money you have, the better chance you have of surviving, and if you're a parent or plan to be one, your family will have a better chance of survival if you get out there and take it. As for the "stupid" part, my father is a very educated man, but he's not smart enough to take care of himself. I've constantly showed him where he needs to go to learn about money, and he's constantly never made the effort. There are a lot of people in the world who have been told what they need to do in order to make a good life for themselves, but have chosen to ignore it. That, in my opinion, is just sheer stupidity. Laziness and stupidity aren't the only reasons some people don't have any dough, but here in the United States, they're definitely the two biggest ones.

[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by Jes

I think that's a fair statement. I'm lazy, which is why I don't have money. I know where the money is and how to get it, but I haven't had any motivation to take it for myself. A lot of people, including a younger me, believe that money isn't everything or that having a lot of money is a foolish/selfish goal. To that, I say money is an essential tool for survival. The more money you have, the better chance you have of surviving, and if you're a parent or plan to be one, your family will have a better chance of survival if you get out there and take it. As for the "stupid" part, my father is a very educated man, but he's not smart enough to take care of himself. I've constantly showed him where he needs to go to learn about money, and he's constantly never made the effort. There are a lot of people in the world who have been told what they need to do in order to make a good life for themselves, but have chosen to ignore it. That, in my opinion, is just sheer stupidity. Laziness and stupidity aren't the only reasons some people don't have any dough, but here in the United States, they're definitely the two biggest ones.

Its actually the other way around, NOT making a lot of money is a VERY selfish thing to do. If you earn a lot of money in a honest manner you have contributed a great deal of value to the society. The people who are broke are generally a money (value) drain for society...

[Ilya]

Shamou, that's a good motivational phrase, you write about.

However, I don't think that the problem is motivational.

Making money is about skill and knowledge.

When I was a teenager, almost a kid, I was already reading Napoleon Hill. And as any kid with no money, I was VERY motivated to do anything to make money.

But, I didn't know what to do, and I didn't know I can do literally anything and it would improve my situation.

It is like the problem that GTD adresses - I didn't know what the first action should be.

Only when I've read Kiyosaki's books (despite their shortcomings), my wealth-building took off. For ten years I was motivated, but without knowledge that took me nowhere. Within three years after I got the basic information on wealth building, I've reached financial freedom
So I vote for knowledge first, motivation second.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Ilya

So I vote for knowledge first, motivation second.

I believe that you are only partially right... if you do not have the motivation... you may not even try to get the knowledge... but, with motivation... you will...

In the end though... you need both... not unlike the proverbial question... "Which came first... the chicken or the egg...???"

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[Ilya]

Well, Shamou.
I know this idea, that somehow, some people are not motivated to make more money. Frankly, I think this is hair-splitting.
In the modern world, money is the easiest way to satisfy the lower levels of Malslow pyramid.
So if a person is poor, he will be motivated to make more money. Actually, he won't need any motivation, he will have a natural desire to make more money.
So I think that there are three broad and generalized categories of people truly who do not want more money

1. People so unambitious or so unconscious (because of desease or addiction) that they are poor and still do not want money
2. People who satisfied their basic needs and chose no to pursue the social dream of being wealthy.
3. People who have reached the level of conscious that transcends the need for money. These people pretty much manifest whatever is needed to satisfy their needs and then act as category 2 above.

Now, for category 1 - your quote (and I use it as an example of any similar motivation) can be a wake up call, but they will need much more then that to get better. For them any "you are a loser" motivation can be such a wake up call.

Categories 2 and 3 - It would be evil to motivate them this way. It will be a temptation, an attempt to cloud their judgment and make them bring them down to the lower level of consciousness. Why would we do that.

I don't like the way your quote works. It is intended to hurt a person's pride and self-esteem, to evoke a defense reaction, an adrenaline rush and a stress. Then, I assume, the speaker offered some solution, that would reduce this stress. Now, this is a standard presentation technique, but it's aim is usually to make the audience choose a particular solution offered by the speaker over the alternatives, and not to educate.

I think I'm expressing my concerns about the genre of motivational speech in general, not this particular quote. But the example is typical - people are motivated to reach a goal they are already motivated to reach, while knowledge and training would be more suitable.

But, since it is not possible to teach 3000 people at once effectively, more and more people choose to motivate instead.