The Warrior Method 30 Days of Extremeness

[whatifiwascool]

First of all, I just wanted to say that its great that you're embarking upon something so ambitious.

I tried a similar plan a couple of months ago so here are some things I learned.

Use affirmations - pick the one goal you want to accomplish the most and read/write 1 affirmation 10 times in the morning and night.. don't bother doing more than 1 too time consuming

I also made a compliance grid in which i basically graded my own performance in every category so I could see how i was doing on a day to day basis.. this was another reinforcer

Also separate between goals/habits

And a great resource for losing fat/building muscle is TESTOSTERONE NATION is growing!

Best of Luck

[Freelancer]

Excellent challenge scumbag and I wish you the best of luck.

[Brutha]

@Iksander, Ak47 and Freelancer: If you have a problem with someone hit the "Report Post" button. When you publically critizise someone, that person will usually defend itself instead of stopping his attacks.

@Uplift and Shamou, :
This is a nice moderated forum. We mods won't tolerate any personal attacks.

To the argument at hand:
Shamou made a claim. Uplift made a counterclaim.

The person you makes a claim has the burdon of proof.
Here what it could have been like:
Shamou: Nobody can get this kind of results.
Uplift: I don't think so, look that guy archieved it.
Shamou: I never heard of him, but source XYZ has said that the maximum amount of muscle someone gained is ZXY.
Uplift: Their are those websites you find when you google the story to back it up.
Shamou: I think they are just advertisements.

Note that you don't have to be personal at any point of that debate.

[chris614]

Scumbag,

I have a question.

Why do you want to achieve all these things?


Chris614
The Philosophy of Change.com

[SmellyOrc]

Originally Posted by Uplift

Scumbag, sorry your post has been subject to this, but if you are serious about the 10 lbs, it can be done. It is going to take extreme, specific measures though. First and foremost is, you must be sure, certain it is possible. Placing doubt in your mind is useless. 'Normal' thinking, training and eating won't produce extreme, but possible results. Plenty of people get no where, as far as adding noticeable muscle mass, despite even years of training. The experiment I mentioned will give you clues. For more clues, think about something obvious... the opposite extremes, the effect of sprinting on muscle growth, compared to the effect of marathon running. Also, your biggest muscles...glutes, thighs, back, chest offer the most potential to grow and quickly affect muscular weight gain. If you search you will find the info you need, but you will need to be 100% committed in the right direction to achieve that particular goal.

Unless Scumbag is a 16 year old teenager with a fast recovery ability, and is a beginner to the gym-scene, I have to agree with Shamou. It's like.. impossible to gain 10 lbs of pure muscle in just 30 days, especially when you're only sleeping 4-5h a day. Your muscles won't have nearly enough time to build up again in such a short time. Using steroids and you might have a chance, but I sincerely hope you won't use those....
Gaining 10lbs of WEIGHT is possible in 30 days. It just won't be 10lbs of muscle.

Edit:
@Brutha Personal Attacks? Where? You mean them calling him scumbag? Well, it's his nick anyway ^_^

[Brutha]

Originally Posted by SmellyOrc

Edit:
@Brutha Personal Attacks? Where? You mean them calling him scumbag? Well, it's his nick anyway ^_^

I deleted 11 posts in this thread and edited out parts of 3 additional posts. But if you don't notice that something is missing in the conversation, I must say I have made a good job keeping the rest of the thread intact .

[Amit_S]

Hye Scumbag
My best wishes for this project.
I'm going to follow this closely, esp your muscle gain goal.

If you are going to train in a high intensity fashion, you might want to check out cyberpump.com. Its 10 or 12 $$ for a year. But worth it for HITers.

COLORADO EXP:
Arthur Jones and Casey Viator were both regaining muscle- not starting out new. I don't remember the details but Casey Viator was a pro bodybuilder, a Mr. America winner. Then for some reason he quit training- some kind of an accident not related to his training, he was was suffering from some health problems etc etc...just don't remember the details.

The routine went something like this. I'm not sure about the 3rd exercise. Some reports say that the 'duo squat machine' was not invented back then and he just did barbell squats. All exercises were done to positive failure for a single set with no rest in-between exercises.
1. leg extensions
2. hip and back machine
3. duo squat machine
4. leg curls
5. pullover machine
6. behind the neck pulldowns
7. double shoulder machine
8. rowing machine
9. double chest machine
10. biceps curl
11. triceps extensions
12. dips

Casey has personally denied taking drugs during the experiment. But there are some guys out there, including Mike Mentzer, who said that he did take drugs.

[Amit_S]

If you are going to include squats (and you'll have to if you want to gain that much muscle) , check out these 2 squat articles. They have helped me the best in squat technique.

Testosterone Nation - Squatting from Head to Toe

Testosterone Nation - Squat 900 Pounds

Theres also this book you might want to check out:
"Super Squats How to Gain 30 Pounds of Muscle in 6 Weeks" by Randall Strossen.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Amit_S

Casey has personally denied taking drugs during the experiment.

Hi, Amit -- when Tim Ferris of the fourhourworkweek talked about it in his blog, I searched for that denial, but found none. Casey said that steroids were unnecessary and undesireable during the Colorado Experiment. That's not the same thing as saying he didn't use them!

It seems extremely unlikely that either of the two subjects' huge muscle volume gain could be achieved without the use of steroids. I'm hoping Scumbag doesn't resort to that -- the cost is too high.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Amit_S

COLORADO EXP:
Arthur Jones and Casey Viator were both regaining muscle- not starting out new.

Thank you for the clarification...
It makes a huge difference...

Like Arnold Schwarzenegger was 235 lbs off season and 260 during competition... which did not mean that he had put on 25 lbs of new muscles...

.

[Megan]

I know nothing about body building (or whether this article is even true), but I'm wondering if two of your goals might possibly be working against each other, particularly since you haven't gradually reduced hours of sleep.

Anyway, best of luck.

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When you exercise or especially weightlifting body building exercises, you are placing tremendous stress on your body. This in turn will cause the cortisol hormone in your body to rise to unacceptable level which may destroy your muscle tissues, bone density mass and causes weight gain especially so in abdominal fat storage.

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[Uplift]

Scumbag, 10 lbs of muscle gains are possible. If that is your goal, try, go for it 100%. That is the only way you can achieve it. It is really extreme, but you have labelled your quest extreme. The only question is whether you think and do the right things necessary to achieve it. I am 6 foot 225 lbs muscular bodyweight with over thirty years actual training experience, and I am also fully qualified. I am 51, in deluxe shape, no excuses, no injuries, base my training around deadlifting, squatting and eating for maximum recovery and hormone levels. I'm telling you it can be done, I have seen awesome, awesome things in gyms over the years. You never know the potential of someone...to judge them, underestimate them, and count them out before they even get out the gate is a big mistake. Casey Viator was and is amasing, (check him out at 19) but he was only one of many. One of the most awesome US college athletes was a one legged guy that was a champion basketballer, gridiron player, and sprinter. He dunked!!! One leg, no prosthetic, he viewed his one leg as an attribute that gave him different, unstoppable abilities. Browner. You will only learn about succeeding by trying, you will never know what you can achieve without trying. And you will learn real, valuable lessons...if you try.

Achieving the 10 lbs is going to take total extreme commitment, total certainty. If that truly is your goal, fill your head with it. Seek out what you need to achieve it, not what you need to make it impossible. It can be done, it has been done. You are learning your first real lesson, the world is full of can't be done experts and excuses. They are prolific. Make your choice.

[Scumbag]

Today went pretty good.

Went ahead and got "Awaken the Giant Within" by Tony Robbins. Try to get through it by Monday.

Going to go on a little run. Do some crunches and push-ups. Slam a protein shake.

Redesign and Retooling site are set for weekend. This is part of my 5000 dollar monthly goal. I'm definitely going to have to get really creative in order to make this come through. There is a week long festival coming to my city this weekend that attracts thousands of people. I need to brainstorm some ideas to capitalize on this.

Uplift - Thanks for the advice. I'd like to see you and Shamou bury the hatchet. Both of you guys have mountains of knowledge and should collaborate on a project.

[Doku]

Um. Are you looking to create a 5k monthly income stream by the end of the month? I thought you were looking for a one shot within the 30 days...

[Uplift]

I appreciate your sentiments scumbag (I hate calling you that), but buddy, you need to focus every drop of energy on you and your quest. Casey Viator and the likes achieved what they achieved because they were the real deal extreme. It would be absolutely hilarious if all these people commenting on, criticising and judging and googling the 'Colorado Experiment' suddenly had 500 lbs dropped on their back, after having bombed their thighs with awesome, absolutely awesome weights in an attempt to exhaust them, so that their butt could force them to total...total collapse. All in twenty five minutes. No let up. Extreme. Its going to take extreme meaures to make your body have no choice but to adapt. And extreme training has to be done properly, to prevent injury.

My advice would be to seek out an expert trainer now, or at least get someone to teach you correct exercise technique, that can work in person with you, so that you learn quickly. You need to work deadlifts and squats to your max. Chins and dips, same thing, to the max. Literally till you can't move. Perfect technique so you don't get injured. You will need access to a power rack. You are lucky, your recovery ability will be no where near its limit, so you can go extremely hard more frequently than someone who is already highly trained and developed. I would be advising combining deadlifts and dips one workout, squats, chins and pushups the next. 2 days rest between. If you work to the level you need, you are gonna get really sore at first, unbelievably sore. Eating style is crucial. You need energy, recovery, and growth. Bigger, stronger muscles need more fuel, more nutrients, for recovery and growth. It is really extreme, every workout must be extreme, but how do you think the likes of Viator, or any champion become legends. They love it, thrive on it. Good luck, just do your best buddy, its all learning.

[Angela]

Uplift, have you ever taken steroids or other performance enhancing drugs?

[moonlite]

I'm really impressed. I have two questions to you guys. How exactly do you measure amount of muscle pounds gained during certain period? I think it can be difficult. And how to distinguish the real muscle tissue from the stored water?
I'm simply curious about it.

And I also think about your real purpose. With due respect I think that you are (unconsciously) aiming at a failure. And if you fail you won't be infused with a courage and strength, but most probably you will think: "You're hopeless, you screwed it up again." If my intuition is right - probably - I can only speculate, because I don't know you - but probably you are setting unachievable goals simple to prove yourself that you cannot achieve anything which of course is completely untrue, and this "failure" can serve as a proof that you cannot change anything.

[Scumbag]

The main thing is ingraining healthy habits that can help serve me for a lifetime. This is an extreme program so I have to set the goals high. If I fail it's feedback. I don't get discouraged by a few minor set backs.

Still going strong. We'll give a detailed report later...

[Iff]

I finally got around to reading this thread. I think the idea is great and I wish you all the luck down the road. I am thinking - no, I know - that I should undertake a similar month... "balls to the wall", as you said, I should also get off my behind and do something useful.

I have on thing to ask / say / recommend, don't smoulder! I have been witness to so many x-day commitments, both mine and others', where for no reason whatsoever the progress starts to slow down and even creep at desperately small speed. All it is, is a check-list of things to do in a day. Technically, running two miles is not a greater task than folding a piece of paper - you just do it. Showing up is more than half the victory. So, there is no "half-assed attempt" or "semi-rocky start", you just take your list, do the things on it, and don't stress over not performing well enough. Once you have committed to doing something, there is no point in backing down, it will only result in stress over nothing.
Oh, how come I haven't followed that advice myself? Seems like I am trying to motivate myself as much as you. Now to think of it, you need a (virtual) commitment partner?

By the way, I still can't stop laughing over item four.

Originally Posted by Scumbag

[...]
4. Bang a 10

I've never had sex with a 10. But I deserve one. I will use my playeristic skills to score a hot babe at some point during The Warrior Method. This will primarily be focused on during the last week of the 30 days.
[...]

I reminds me a joke by George Carlin (a comedian from United States)...

I have never f***ed a 10. Never. But one night, I f***ed five 2s!

And Shamou, thank you for that quote... I believe it can help me and many others down the road to self-accountability.

Originally Posted by Shamou

[...]
"The ultimate purpose of your 30 program is to brand indelibly on you soul the type of a person that you are... so that it will stay with you for the rest of your life...

That you are the type of person who can go to hell and back but will never quit no matter what... that a commitment made to yourself will never be broken... no excuse... no amount of pain or fear will deter you... you are a modern day ninja... you live by the code of honor that says... "do or die..." nothing else is acceptable..."
[...]

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Iff

And Shamou, thank you for that quote... I believe it can help me and many others down the road to self-accountability.

Another thing that you can do is to buy yourself a symbolic ring before you start on you dragon slaying quest...

That ring will represent upholding your commitment... now, promise yourself that you will only wear the ring at the end of your ordeal if you are successful but will throw it in the river if you are not...

In my case... I had already bought my black belt before embarking on my quest... and every day I would look at that belt and experience the feeling of pride that I would feel when I would be allowed to wear it... it was of tremendous help and a great motivator...

Today... I still have the belt... and it is a constant reminder that "I WILL NEVER QUIT NO MATTER HOW ROUGH THINGS GET TO BE..."

.

[Iff]

Originally Posted by Shamou

Another thing that you can do is to buy yourself a symbolic ring before you start on you dragon slaying quest...

That ring will represent upholding your commitment... now, promise yourself that you will only wear the ring at the end of your ordeal if you are successful but will throw it in the river if you are not...
[...]

I think I am actually going to do this. Something physical to attach my goals to can help a great deal.

I believe that can show, while many people go on "motivation quests" to the end of the world, it is the things that seem smallest and simplest at the beginning, which are the best ones to seek motivation and burning passion from.

Thanks again.

[Uplift]

Originally Posted by Angela

Uplift, have you ever taken steroids or other performance enhancing drugs?

Never, I have no time...zero time for them. I am interested in maximum health, fitness and longevity. Thats why at 51 years I look much younger, and am able to do anything I could do when I was a teenager. It is also why I am so confident in my knowledge in this field. It is also ridiculous that every bodybuilding magazine article and advertisement uses professional bodybuilders who do. As much as I admire Arnold's achievments, and the effort involved, it is also the reason I don't really respect him