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06-30-2007, 02:49 AM
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 |  How do you sparkle passion?
How do you sparkle passion… ??? Nothing great can be accomplished without passion… passion is the great facilitator… it gives us energy, it gives us courage, it gives us wings, it fires the imagination, it opens new vistas… passion is fuel of quantum leaps… and the bridge to gigantic accomplishments... But, my question here is… how do you get passionate…??? . |
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06-30-2007, 04:47 AM
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I get passion by just doing it. If I sat around and think "hmmm I have to sit around and find my passion" I would've never started the 30 days PM experiment. Sometimes overthinking is a burden ;D I got a lot of positive feedbacks from this post: How to take decisive action | Ken Nubo: Ranting of a J-rocker Last edited by ken nubo; 06-30-2007 at 05:00 AM. |
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06-30-2007, 05:13 AM
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Hi Shamou... Wow....Great question! You really have my wheels turning on this one..... It took me over 15 years to finally find something I am extremely passionate about (Internet Marketing)...prior to that it had eluded me. One thing I do know....it's a challenge to become passionate about something by forcing it. To me it seems like passion starts from within. It's like we learn about something that just seems to "click" My belief is that the initial seed is planted in us by a higher power... God...and it's up to us to go out in the world and find it. Once we do....for me anyway...the passion begins to grow by what we visualize...what we do and what we manifest. From that point...it's like constantly adding fuel to a fire. Have an awesome day! Robert Avila PS. I remember back in 1991 reading Tony Robbins - Personal Power. He mentioned that we never know....the next page we turn just might contain a sentence that changes our lives forever! This has stuck with me for over a decade....and I kept reading...keep learning..and searching for my passion. In 2004, this was the book....and those exact words that changed my life: Multiple Streams of Internet Income - by Robert G. Allen "Imagine making money while you sleep. Imagine waking up richer every morning than when you went to bed the night before. Imagine receiving streams of money from people all over the world. Imagine a business that operates on autopilot - whether you show up or not. Imagine low overhead and high profits. Imagine operating your business from exotic worldwide locations - from a cell phone on the beach in Tahiti or from your laptop in a restaurant atop the Eiffel Tower. If you can imagine these things, you can achieve them using the vehicle of the Internet" - Robert G. Allen PSS. Shamao....Thank you for the post!....It challenged me think and see passion with a fresh perspective.  Last edited by Robert Avila; 06-30-2007 at 05:17 AM. |
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06-30-2007, 09:44 AM
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My personal philosophy is that passion is a natural byproduct that occurs whenever there's a strong connection between the person we are and the thing we're doing. Reproducing passion requires introspection (what drives you?) and work connecting your own internal dots with those of the activities available to you. I think of passion as a great compass, pointing us in the direction of fulfillment and connectedness between ourselves and the world. Last edited by JohnPlace; 06-30-2007 at 10:10 AM. |
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06-30-2007, 10:58 AM
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You know I have passions about a few things, especially when in the kitchen, I honestly don't know how I went from "just cooking" to being absolutely passionate about it............ it became more of an art form, it get grew , the more I nurtured it the more it grew, the more it grew the more creative I became in the endevour, and now it is hard work but fun work, not a job* but something i love to do the ironic thing is that I have been cooking since I was 12, do to my mother taking ill, and I became the one who gave up my teen years to run the family and for many years I was resentful of that fact.........so what I hated to do , is now what i love to do.... go figure as for sparking a passion, ask yourself what is it that you enjoy doing, is there anything that you find yourself really interested in? something that you look forward to doing? if so.. stay with it and see what happens |
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06-30-2007, 12:21 PM
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How do we become passionate about something that doesn't exist? Let's say I do not have money (lack) I want money (desire) How do I get money (realise you already have it) as all the gurus tell you, imagine you already have it and you will. But I must focus and think and be positive and work hard towards my goal. But you already (the gurus say this) have it, so why do any of that? That is the lie (the secret) that all the gurus and followers want you to believe. If all the gurus tell us we must see it now and believe we have it now, then why must we focus and think and emote and find ways and try and struggle? Why not say, I have it now and that's it. So they can sell more systems of attainment. If we are told (remember all self help gurus say this) that we must believe and imagine we already have our desire, then why do we need to do hardly anything? We don't, it's a lie, a con to sell DVDs and tapes, seminars and adwords. A lie to keep you coming back for more when your desires do not manifest. So how do we become passionate about something to the point of attaining it? Realise that passion means desire, desire means lack, so to become passionate means you are constantly accepting you do not have it and never will. Now you know why very passionate people are never guaranteed attainment Max Last edited by Max Power; 06-30-2007 at 12:56 PM. Reason: me god, you no god long time 8^) |
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06-30-2007, 01:08 PM
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06-30-2007, 01:56 PM
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 It would seem that consciousness is not without a sense of irony.You've missed the point. I don't have a passion to discredit gurus, I observe (gurus) and comment (opinionate) what I observe. To get a passion (usually) means to desire/want something that I don't have, but I already have observation and opinion, there is no lack. You're confusing passion with observation, they are two very sepearte things Max | |
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06-30-2007, 02:35 PM
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 Also not to discredit you but lack doesn't have to be physical, you might lack ego reinforcement for all I know. In reality I can only guess to your reasons or whatever you lack lol. You still seem passionate about it to me.  Ps. Life is irony in many ways so enjoy it while you can hehe. | |
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06-30-2007, 03:14 PM
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Imagine having the feeling that you are smarter than those guys... it's quite a trip... even if it's delusional... . | |
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06-30-2007, 03:39 PM
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“Having a passion to excel means having a burning desire to make the business better – always knowing what’s next, and continually pushing the boundaries of what is possible.” C.J. -- Fraleigh, Chief Executive Officer I feel that the best way to get passionate is to find and get involved in an issue or a cause that is bigger than you are… As an example… take a world class athlete… if he/she wants to win the gold for personal satisfaction, he/she will be good… but if he/she wants to win for his/her country… he/she will be transformed into a giant… You want to increase your bank account… you’ll be good… you want to build value that will benefit the entire world… you’ll be great… It’s a matter or perception… but then, so is everything else… you want to be great… get passionate about a cause and you will set the world on fire… . |
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06-30-2007, 04:56 PM
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How important is passion as a success factor? Some people believe it’s the single most important factor, painting passion as the fuel that drives success. I disagree. http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...lf-discipline/ |
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06-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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06-30-2007, 05:51 PM
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hm... guys.. passion is something from within, it is a strong feeling, you cannot force it, you cannot train it. If you are not passionate about certain thing, you cannot force yourself to become passionate, nor can you train or learn. But feelings can change over time, so today you dun feel a thing does not mean you will not feel for it tomorrow. The point is not to make yourself passionate about something that you are not excited about, but to find something that you are passionate about in the first place. And when comes to things that you have to do and yet you are not passionate about, then what you need is discipline. P.S. Max, it is good to be skeptical, but be careful not to become cynicism ya! cheers!! Albert Lee Let's make this beautiful world better and more beautiful! |
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06-30-2007, 05:59 PM
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Let us say that you hate to swim... and got thrown overboard a ship one mile from the shore... you can bet your butt that you will be the most passionate swimmer ever... If you let outside influence direct how you feel, you are not better than a robot... humans have choices... that is why we have dominion over the world that we live in... and are not simple robots being directed by outside influences... . | |
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07-01-2007, 04:26 AM
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Passion is love, excitement and growth mixed together in a particular field. To become passionate about something find an aspect of it that excites you, Take some major steps foward in that area and the love will follow.
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07-01-2007, 04:37 AM
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Without passion we are automats just performing to stay alive… Without passion there would be no great achievements… there would not be any new discoveries… there would be no great art… and, bottom line… without passion and passionate people… there would probably be no civilization… . | |
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07-01-2007, 09:24 AM
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hm... Shamou, perhaps you can get passionate about anything you want, but somehow your example is not very relevant. I think in your example, it is more like a desperate swimmer, and I bet if he is able to reach the shore, this person will hate swimming to his gut, because it is associated with a very negative experience. I agreed with ChaosKiwi, to get passionate about something, you need to find an aspect of it that excite you. That is what i am saying earlier, you have to find something that you are already passionate about in the first place. Using your example, if the swimmer saw the colorful fishes and corals in the sea on his way back, and he get excited about them, he will become a passionate swimmer because he found something about swimming that excite him. Cheers! Albert Lee | |
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07-02-2007, 10:06 PM
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It seems we have two separate "passion" philosophies being expressed here. The first philosophy treats passion as an unalterable effect associated with meaningful, fulfilling activity. The second treats passion as malleable cause -- we control what we're passionate about, which causes us to perform that activity well. While I agree that happiness is a mental state that we have great control over, I subscribe to the first philosophy, not because it's the only correct philosophy (this is debatable), but because it's the most productive philosophy with regard to my own life. There is a life philosophy that holds that passion does not come merely from within us, but instead comes from something higher -- insert theology here. In this context, the ability to feel passionate at will about whatever activity we choose would actually be counterproductive, since such an ability would disguise the the directive qualities of passion -- so essential if we are to become everything we can be. Although some great men were true masters of all trades, history points to many who would never have produced their great masterpieces if they'd been able to feel passionate about whatever work preceded their signature accomplishments. For example, if Tim Burton had felt passionate about being part of the cell-shading assembly line at Disney Studios, he would never have moved into directing. A need for deeper levels of personal fulfillment has driven many men to seek higher causes. Of course, it's also driven many men into the arms of vice. So the real question, then, is whether or not you will find passion in a productive way, or a counterproductive (and ultimately disappointing) way. Last edited by JohnPlace; 07-04-2007 at 11:35 AM. |
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07-02-2007, 10:46 PM
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My personal way is to take an intention like my signature, and say it like a mantra in my mind over and over, faster and faster, louder and louder until I just can't keep doing it. It's worked very well. Try it. ~ David |
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07-02-2007, 10:48 PM
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 | I don't think I 'get' passion...
But rather, I unconceal it from myself. I don't think it would be too valuable to try to spark passion for something I'm not passionate about (e.g., swimming -- Shamou, my passion for being alive would probably be very present, which would make swim like hell for shore, but that wouldn't make me passionate about swimming.) I think we have passions that are uncovered in the course of living. The passion that propels a great athlete or leader, I think, is the passion she has for what she's already got -- the feeling of power being unleashed in her limbs, for instance, or for being a winner, or inspiring others. It seems to me that when a person feels passion, the ignition is right there inside right now. Sometimes it appears to be a desire for some future gain, but really it's a deep body love for a way of being that the person already owns. So, I'm not looking to spark passions within myself, only to take away my veils so that I can see my passion shining miraculously bright. That's how I think of passion. |
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07-03-2007, 01:03 AM
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If I am correct in this assumption… and if we take for granted that “passion” is a great facilitator… why not combine passion philosophy #1 and #2 and double the facilitating effect of passion…??? As an example… I have been counseling and motivating people for decades… now, it is easy for me to be passionate about that type of work because I love it… however if I also find the subject that I am working with intense and passionate… I will be at least twice as effective… . | |
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07-03-2007, 01:09 AM
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I used to jog... I always hated jogging... and still do... but, when I did jog... I did it with passion... A bit like a "one night stand..." ...passionate for the night... but no life long commitment... . | |
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The reason we feel a sense of purpose when doing a particular activity may be attributed to a higher power, or to our own enlightened selves, depending upon your point of view. But the key thing about philosophy #1 is that passion is directive. Tasks for which we feel a strong "passion" are calling out to us. According to philosophy #2, passion is a malleable state of mind. Using this philosophy, passion is not a partnership, but rather a unilateral decision made within the conscious mind of the individual. Quote:
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07-04-2007, 03:18 AM
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JohnPlace! Great post as usual John… always the theorician … In your philosophy #1… man’s passion is at the “effect” or being “controlled” by his motivation and his objectives… whereas in philosophy #2 man is the master and originator of passion… that is if I understand your view correctly… and, you are a proponent of philosophy #1… I believe that this is due to the fact that you seem to be a theorician, visionary and a strategist… I am mostly a commander and a leader… therefore I am in favor of philosophy #2… that is, I let guys like you define the course of action… and I lead the troops home to victory… and for that, I need to foster passion and enthusiasm at will… That is only the way that I see things… and I am fully aware that my way of seeing things is not shared by everyone… so, I welcome the discussions… . |
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