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Old 08-18-2008, 11:44 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Oh wow, yeah it has been roughly a year. Wow it feels like such a shorter time frame
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Circumstances do not determine our degree of happiness... we do...

If a person cannot be happy in his present job... changing it will not help...

Now, I would never suggest that someone should settle for less than he or she could be... but, what I am saying is that circumstances are not the deciding factor in the way we feel...
So you would tolerate in your life everything that is not as good as it could be? What are you doing in your life then?
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:48 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The only reason that someone would want to change, grow and improve is because they are dissatisfied, thus unhappy with their present situation (circumstances). Without dissatisfaction there would be no reason to change. So ellie your dissatisfaction with your present situation (circumstances) is natural and a necessary component in compelling you to change it. You are on the right track, you only need to find out what you want to do, the thing that will make you happy.

"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so" - Shakespeare

Regarding the aforementioned quote, I wonder whether a slave would agree with Shakespeare, that his situation (circumstances) isn't bad, but that thinking makes it so.

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Regarding the Shakespeare quote, I agree with it. But for it to make sense for a slave, I think we need to understand it on a deeper level. The key here in my opinion is to accept what already exists. If you are a slave there is little help in cursing and resisting the current situation. If you happen to be a slave, my advice would be to accept what already is, you can still look for ways to get out of the situation. Metaphorically speaking, if you are already stuck in a pile of mud, instead of cursing and resisting the fact that you are stuck, either accept the situation or do you best ot change it. Making the sitation into a problem or making it a bad or good situation doesn't help much.

I hope you understand my point
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:21 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Hey Ellie that's very interesting. To see what you wanted and now that you have what you wanted! It's interesting how you have progressed.

It just goes to show that your experience in the emotion of "I'VE HAD ENOUGH" can be life changing. In your case it was "I've had enough of working for someone else!"
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:14 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Circumstances do not determine our degree of happiness... we do...

If a person cannot be happy in his present job... changing it will not help...

Now, I would never suggest that someone should settle for less than he or she could be... but, what I am saying is that circumstances are not the deciding factor in the way we feel...

As Victor Frankl said,

“We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.”


Need I say more...???

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I have always liked that victor frankl quote


but victor frankl himself stated that what got him through his life in the concentration camp was knowing that life was asking something from him and that was for him to live so he could write his books esp his speciality -logotherapy
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Old 08-27-2011, 02:44 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Yes that's right I don't enjoy working. Ideally I would like to never work for anyone ever again.

Whoever started this task called "work" should be...well....tortured.

Do I have a bad attitude, probably, but seriously there must be more to life than working. Yes people may look down at me for my bad attitude, but really is bad or just being realistic. I'm just trying to be honest about how I feel. I also feel that a lot of pressure in life evolves from work.

I have been working for a bit over two months in my current job and I am already over it. I can't even really complain about my job, as I get a good wage, work with nice people, flexible and the work is challenging. Still I just find it laborious and am wishing I could stay at home. If I'm being honest I was like this in my previous job as well. Although it was better because I got home before 5pm and I had a day off once a fortnight and was a 10 minute drive from my home.

It is worrying me a bit, because I'm already thinking I need to find a new career with less stress, less hours and not so cutthroat.

Does anyone else feel this way?

I know there are lot of people out there, that are struggling with jobs/life and probably don’t want to hear my complain about my not so bad job, but this site is about really finding out ways to reach an ultimate zen like state – which is what I want.

"I Totally ... Get You!" I am the same exact way. However.. I give you more credit .. your actually working. The people here.. and I just joined.. seem very nice and supportive. I was reading your statement and although I get it and agree.. I was thinking to myself.. Ohh noo this can't be good.. in regards to comments. But.. I was very surprised.

I don't know how old you are.. and that does not matter anyways..because as someone said here.. we spend more time at work then home.. so you need to like or in our case..love what we do. We are not cut out for the 9-5 Corporate or retail or medical or manufacturing grind. Not everyone is. We are all unique. I hate... when people lump everyone in one pool so.. to speak. Everyone is different which makes this world different.
If your anything like me.. you may be "The Artistic" type. Its born in me. My dad was .. his uncle.. and my brother.. we all have this gift. I knew from age 5 I was different in that way. I knew early on in my job prospects as a young woman.. that I was not cut out to work a regular job. Its not in me. Or you. Unfortunately.. for us both.. we are not Heiress's like Paris Hilton.. who live off that money.. to make money. However.. there are more then one way to skin a cat.. so to speak of course. I have been unemployed for 1.5 years and yes.. loving every minute of my time and freedom away from work. I actually.. spent a year writing a childrens book series and illustrating all the characters. This is my dream and aspiration so that I can work from home anywhere I choose. However.. I have other goals if that does not take me where I want to be or as far as I want to go. I have a nice voice.. I plan to use that. I want to do voice overs.. in cartoons on TV and the movies. Yes.. I will need some training. I would love to sell products on QVC or HSN.. or Shop NBC. And if none of this pans out.. I will take acting classes and get into that.. to become an actor in film or TV.

Although.. I don't like regular work. I know... I am not an heiress..therefore the reality of not becoming homeless is to generate an income. I don't have a husband. Can't have kids .. and don't have a sugar daddy lol. So.. I have to do things I love.. which I listed above. The jobs I plan to do.. will allow me the freedom to take a year off sometimes.. although.. when I am in my element times flies by.. and its not like I am working at all. I love to write and illustrate and sing.. 200%. Not many can say they love what they do at all let alone 200%. Look at the Kirdashian's. Kris Jenner created a brand in those girls. You can do the same. Maybe you would be a good entrepreneur. Find something that inspires you.. motivates you. Turn a hobby or a personal talent you have into an empire. But.. unless your family has a ton of money.. to give you like Paris Hilton.. Or .. unless you plan to marry into money.. by marrying a rich rich man.. you need to figure yourself out.. just like me and others have had to do. I hear all the time actors saying they love.. what they do.. and singers. They said they have no idea what they would do if they did not do that. Its not like working to them at all.. and they can't believe they get paid crazy money to do what they love to do. Not everyone is meant for fame and fortune. Many..... don't pursue it. Many that do.. aren't naturals.. and don't get far.. Or.. they don't push and try hard enough. Knock on doors if you have to. Vickie Lawrence became famous simply by knocking on Carol Brunett's door. She put her to work on her show.
Mathew Ma connahay..<<Not sure how to spell his last name.. lol was discovered in a bar.. sitting next to a producer or director. He was in College for law. Many actors never had formal College. Some do . Your never too old to act. There are parts for every age. If you have no kids or man holding you down.. move to LA or Hollywood and take acting classes.. Or if your young enough.. go to College and get a Theater degree. But you will have to work at night doing something.. hostess.. waitress.. or bartender? While you go on auditions.

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Old 08-27-2011, 04:06 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Uh, Ellie posted this in 2008. I don't think she even comes to the forums anymore.

Doesn't anyone check the dates before they post on threads from page 56? Obviously if it is that far back it's gonna be old.
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I would say that 80% of the working population wish they were not working so I don't think your views are uncommon. Unfortunately, most people will never do anything about it and end up with their entire working years in jobs they hate. I left corporate life a few years ago and have never been happier.
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:23 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Ha ha! I'm just looking over my old post to see what I wished for/manifested. It's interesting to see my progression. Ok I was a bit off with my direction, but still pretty close.
Could there be a better example of how to do personal development. Start with where your are, imagine where you want to be, set the goals and start the work. You see! It really does work.
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:07 AM   #40 (permalink)
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No this is good to bump up.

It reminds me each time, how close I get to what I ask for and it's funny that I am now working full-timea again, after a number of years hiatus. I probably still agree with my initial post, that jobs are sucky. Although, I think for me this time around, it's for me to get better with interacting with people and learning to stick-up for myself.

I am now working in full-time (still a contract) in a government job. Doing quite technical work.

It's still very new, so I can't say if it's what I want yet.

The actual place I am working at is pretty damn amazing. It's a place I have always dreamed of working at, so that's pretty cool.

But what you wish, and what you get from your wish does not always match.

Early days though.

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Old 11-20-2011, 08:47 PM   #41 (permalink)
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My spirit guides told me months ago that once X happened my work life would change quickly and drastically. I would manifest the life I want.

Guess what? Just this week, I hear rumors of X.

I'm not sure just how it's going to go down. Only that I fully expect, and I just know, I will either have what I want, or will be seeing in manifest before my eyes by New Years.

I'm with you. I have much better things to do with my time than be a slave.
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