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In my introduction thread, Shamou asked me for my view on Anthony Robbins.

Well, I got to learn about NLP when I read a book by Tony, called "Awaken the giant within". I read that one when I was just out of the army, searching for a way to finance my goals.

What I think of Robbins could be summarized in one sentence - he's a good start for learning self discipline.

I didn't buy much of his products, just a couple of books, and certainly I've never, and most likely never will, pay $5,000 for a short week seminar. But he does inspire me sometimes, and I do think he brings a lot of value to many people. Just the fact that he emphasizes on being connected to a purpose, whether it's for your life or your day by day actions, is an indication of that value. I think that's one of the most important lessons I learned from him.

Another lesson I learned back then was flexibility. Without it, life tend to stay the same or get worst. I think that would be the most important skill to master, if you're looking to improve your life. I've not mastered it, but I am practicing as hard as I can.

:-) Anyway, this is my opinion. I'll be happy to hear yours as well.
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I didn't buy much of his products, just a couple of books, and certainly I've never, and most likely never will, pay $5,000 for a short week seminar.
Thanks for sharing that...

If you have "Awaken the Giant Within" you have Robbins' bible... so you have all the essential there...

Maybe after you've made a few millions you'll change your mind about the seminars...

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Hmm, I've read Awaken the Giant Within, as well. I've also read parts of the book that follows.

I have gained insights from Robbins. Sometimes I find that I can only absorb a little, but that's okay.
One thing I found in particular that was helpful was the idea that you are constantly deleting items from your awareness. So that if you are upset, you are deleting from your awareness many of your happy times. No one else had phrased the concept quite that way, and to me it seemed to be a real eye opener.
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Hmm, I've read Awaken the Giant Within, as well. I've also read parts of the book that follows.
What book are you talking about...???

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I went to Unleash the Power Within in London and i got a lot out of the event. I won't pretend that everything has stayed with me but he helped me make some fundamental changes in my life.

You may be interested in a post I added to my blog only yesterday on the subject.

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I went to Unleash the Power Within in London and i got a lot out of the event. I won't pretend that everything has stayed with me but he helped me make some fundamental changes in my life.

You may be interested in a post I added to my blog only yesterday on the subject.

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Great article Tuumble...

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Some of Tony Robbins' most famous quotes:

* Know that it's your decisions, and not your conditions, that determine your destiny.

* A real decision is measured by the fact that you've taken new action. If there's no action, you haven't truly decided.

* Deciding to commit yourself to long term results, rather than short term fixes, is as important as any decision you'll make in your lifetime.

* How am I going to live today in order to create the tomorrow I'm committed to?

* Using the power of decision gives you the capacity to get past any excuse to change any and every part of your life in an instant.

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What I like about Tony, is his voice on the tapes.
He is uniquely enthousiast.

I must add, that a lot is simular to what you read in the famous books:
getting things done
power of now
7habits
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This is certanly not a bad thing (don't get me wrong on that)
It helps, because the same meaning is used in other words.

BUT, for some reason in my mind the tought keeps coming back, that the money machine is more important for Tony. (those prices for the audio!!!!)
That is why I like what Steve is doing, good articles, for free.

Funny thing also is, that Steves forum is much more bussier than Tony's
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BUT, for some reason in my mind the tought keeps coming back, that the money machine is more important for Tony. (those prices for the audio!!!!)
I totally agree! That's one of the reasons I have a problem with him.
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I totally agree! That's one of the reasons I have a problem with him.
Why should it bother anyone that Robbins charges whatever traffic will bear for his products...??? No one is forced to buy...!!!

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Why should it bother anyone that Robbins charges whatever traffic will bear for his products...??? No one is forced to buy...!!!.
Because if he really wants to help people, he would make it affordable for a broader economic bracket. Sure no one has to buy it, but some people may want to and can't afford it.
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Because if he really wants to help people, he would make it affordable for a broader economic bracket. Sure no one has to buy it, but some people may want to and can't afford it.
Same could be said for medical doctors... why don't they do it...??? Same could be said for most professionals... why don't they do it...???

In the case of Robbins... if you pay $2000. for a seminar... you will do everything in your power to apply what you've learned and get what you've paid for... if you have the same material for free... most people will enjoy a nice few days and go back home to the same old routine and same old results as before...

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It is a balancing act on his part and I do understand the concern. It seemed to me that people that really needed the help were mostly out of reach because of the prices charged. Ironically those who already had a certain amount of success because they could afford it were able to purchase.

You would think that as he becomes more secure financially the relative cost could come down and let's face it, many of the messages are now variations of familiar ideas. There is not much that is new anymore.

I did see the infomercial that says if you really wanted 'Get the Edge' you will do anything to scrape together the money and that's true but many need the ideas to get themselves kickstarted with that mindset.
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In the case of Robbins... if you pay $2000. for a seminar... you will do everything in your power to apply what you've learned and get what you've paid for... if you have the same material for free... most people will enjoy a nice few days and go back home to the same old routine and same old results as before...
Oh yes, that's so true. If you've paid you want value so the point I mentioned of getting the funds together stands. I guess that's what the 1 and 2 CD sets are for - a taster - which encourages a person to take to the next level.

Worked for me!
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let's face it, many of the messages are now variations of familiar ideas. There is not much that is new anymore.
I agree with you Tuumble... the message is not new... it started with Benjamen Franklin (1706 – 1790) and not all that much has been added to it since... however, the message is but a very tiny part of the whole picture...

The operative words in PD seminars efficacy are: delivery, assimilation & accountability and application...

1. Delivery... the impact that the person giving the information has on you... and, I think that Robbins is the Muhammad Ali and the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the personal development world... that is, way ahead of any other...

2. Assimilation & accountability... each person taking a seminar is personally responsible for whatever value they will reap out of the seminar... that is, the speaker gives the information... but you are the one who precess it...

3. Application... knowing is never enough... you have to put to use what you know and take action...

In other words... there has to be a symbiosis between the lecturer and the student... where they both share equal responsibility...

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I never quite got over Tony and Becky divorcing.
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I never quite got over Tony and Becky divorcing.
Well... you should make an effort... 'cause they ain't going back together...

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I never quite got over Tony and Becky divorcing.
Like the mechanic who's car is constantly broken or the doctor who dies of smoking cancer, turns out Robbins is human after all.

If you can fix your own car, you don't need a mechanic, if you can mow your own lawn, you don't use a lawn mowing service, if you can visit here daily, you'll never need Robbins and you're save thousands! Robbins isn't the worst self help guru, god knows he's helped himself but those teeth are very scary

Good luck to him, he's done very well
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Yes, well, I'm currently on page 9 of at least 21 on the Rick Ross site, and I must say, I'm now well and truly over any illusions I had about Tony Robbins in my naive youth, even though I got rid of all the materials years ago.

But if he helps you, more power to you. For me, I consider it a stage I went through.

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Yes, well, I'm currently on page 9 of at least 21 on the Rick Ross site, and I must say, I'm now well and truly over any illusions I had about Tony Robbins in my naive youth, even though I got rid of all the materials years ago.

But if he helps you, more power to you. For me, I consider it a stage I went through.

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Very glad that you found the answers that you were looking for... in the end... that's all that really matters...

The very best of luck to you...

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Yes, well, I'm currently on page 9 of at least 21 on the Rick Ross site, and I must say, I'm now well and truly over any illusions I had about Tony Robbins in my naive youth, even though I got rid of all the materials years ago. But if he helps you, more power to you. For me, I consider it a stage I went through.
Yes, I found Robbins helpful, but this was years ago when many other guru's were saying the same thing, but we can't deny he has done very well for himself.
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He has done very well for himself. Yes, but not well enough. He wants to be a billionaire, doncha know!
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He has done very well for himself. Yes, but not well enough. He wants to be a billionaire, doncha know!
Anything wrong with wanting to be a billionaire...???

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In fact, since that time (1998), neither of us has bought anything further from Tony Robbins. _steve pavlina.
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