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06-03-2007, 07:22 PM
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 |  Do you believe in hard work…???
Do you believe in hard work…??? People of my generation did… and I have yet to find a successful person who did not… however I thought it would be interesting to have your views on that subject… . |
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06-03-2007, 07:39 PM
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Absolutely! When I look at the things in my life which bring me the greatest satisfaction, I see that there was always alot of hard work preceding it. When I look at the things I lack, I see that there has been a lack of hard work. Never fails, hard work pays off. |
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06-03-2007, 08:18 PM
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From Nate Jackson of the Denver Broncos “I am a firm believer in the psychological benefits of hard work. It gratifies you, it validates your quest, it gives shape to your vision. Hard works makes me feel good. I rest well when I work. I can't sleep when I don't. The successes of football teams are dependent on a group of men who know the value of hard work, who understand the importance of preparation. Each week, the attention to detail on Bronco soil is intricate and meticulous. There is no stone left unturned. No pebble. No grain of sand. And once every possible scenario is explored, every tendency dissected and gobbled up, and every plan, step by step, is charted and outlined, graphed and connected, the weekend is upon us”. . |
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06-03-2007, 08:23 PM
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Yes, I do. However, I believe in dividing your work into tiny pieces. If possible. That way your total amount of work (or your accumulated work) can be enormous but without you ever really suffering in that very moment. Of course you may develop from suffering and getting out of the comfort zone. Still, I do not find it necessary under all circumstances. Simplify, is more of my motto. Did this make sense?  |
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06-03-2007, 09:42 PM
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The idea of hard work equalling working a job you hate day and day out for years simply to live the way you want is like a vision of hell for me. | |
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06-03-2007, 10:34 PM
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06-03-2007, 10:45 PM
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I really love to do some physically hard work every once in a while. I love the feeling of going home a little exhausted after doing a great job. Of course I don't always have the willpower to do such things, but there are some things that needs to get done, and finishing them gives you such a great feeling. -Jan |
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06-03-2007, 11:06 PM
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I do not believe in hard work the way most people see it. I believe in putting the right amount of effort and directing one's will towards results. Results speak for themselves. Some people spend hours on a project and yield mediocre results and some people spend much less time and have great results. Committed, work is, in my opinion, more important than hard work. It's all about being effective. A lot of people work very hard and make very little money or yield very poor results. |
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06-04-2007, 01:26 AM
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I've seen it taken to unhealthy or even dangerous extremes. I've been there before, and seen other people do (and suffer) some things far nastier than anything I've done. Work is all good, but doing so slavishly isn't my thing. Maybe I'm expecting too much, but when I get my life in order I'm hoping to have good work as well as a hot social life and some personal time on my own, (and this might not involve people- or location-overlap). Not just a workaholic life or an always-on, zombified existence wherein my body merely exists to drag my increasingly sleepless head around. Just how I'm going to accomplish that in an era where fanatical monomania (euphemistically called "passion") and 24-7 activation (known as "keeping up with the trends" in common parlance) seems to be what makes the real money is beyond me at this time, but I hope to find out. | |
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06-04-2007, 01:40 AM
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Yes, I do believe. Unfortunately, I just haven't really seen much of it yet! As a child, I was never forced to work or to do anything that I didn't want to do. At age 10, I started not doing my homework on purpose because I didn't want to. I didn't clean my room. I didn't do my chores. I really wish I had grown up with a good work ethic. Oh well, that's in the past now. No blame is being placed. Now it's all up to me. I think hard work is very important, as long as you know how to do it in a healthy way, of course. |
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06-04-2007, 04:07 AM
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I was fortunate enough to rub elbows with extremely successful people... and, they all had one thing in common... they were passionate about what they were doing... it was not work... it was a game... Working hard can be motivated by two different factors... 1. Basic insecurity... you feel that you'll never have enough... the way to personal salvation is hard work and long hours... you will find many workaholics in that category... you will also find many cases of burnouts... when it is not premature death... 2. Passion for the game... life is a game... you're a winner... you're passionate about what you do... and it is fun... this is the category that you want to be in... life is a blast... and you're on top of it... . | |
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06-04-2007, 08:45 AM
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"Passion for the game" - well put, Shamou. The thing is that hard work is only hard and painstaking if we allow ourselves to experience it that way. If we have a broader vision even hard physical labour (though of course not to the harmful extreme) can feel uplifting. Is our work an exciting journey to an exciting life? Or is it just pain till we get to pleasure? The choice is ours. We may still work smart, though. And I insist on dividing work into tiny pieces as one of the more smart strategies. In my humble opinion. Not to make a commercial standpoint, but I varmly recommend Steve Siebold's "177 Mental Toughness Secrets of the World Class" for a further inquiry into work and mindset. Keep up the good work! |
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06-04-2007, 09:55 AM
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hard work and return on investment go hand in hand for me. I work hard at things that provide me with the appropriate return on my investment of time. Example I recently had to do the budgets at work. Given that my company will be undergoing a massive restructure to the extent that whatever I put down in the budgets would be useless within 3-4 months. Myself and the GM spent more time on the structure of the budget and divisional splits than on the actual numbers. The investment in time on the structure of the business pays off as we will continue to use it. Investment in time on the actual numbers will be useless in a few months so I invested very little time in that. Work hard at things that matter and forget the things that don't. |
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06-04-2007, 02:57 PM
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 "177 Mental Toughness Secrets of the World Class" . | |
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06-04-2007, 03:39 PM
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C33 and a few others touched on working smart, not just hard. If a person concentrates on being self aware and analyzing their performance and results on a continual basis they will become more efficient. It takes being brutally honest with yourself. At the end of each day reflect on what you accomplished and how you feel about it. If you feel you slacked a bit and could have been more productive, come up with solutions to avoid that to the extent it's possible. As Shamou said, doing something you enjoy and have a passion for helps a great deal. Don't believe for a moment that hard work alone will leave you feeling fulfilled, or the realization of your financial dreams, because it won't. Some folks work really hard digging ditches every day, over time they probably learn a lot and become more efficient and able to dig even more ditch each day. They may never become wealthy, no matter how hard they work, but the guy that owns the company they work for, he may. I touched on a subject in another post about the first million being the hardest. That is true for a couple of reasons. First, once you have accumulated a sum of money, you can have money working hard for you, instead of working hard for your money. Another reason that many overlook is that after you've achieved some financial success you've also learned quite a bit, and a lot of your habits have changed for the better. The man on top of the mountain very rarely fell there. For my wife and I, it took some failures and setbacks along the way, but everything was a learning experience. Over time habits changed, things became ingrained into our very beings, we continued to learn. It seems that there is rarely a "lightbulb" moment, it is a somewhat gradual growth process. Once you've figured out what works for you it becomes even more fun, and much easier, and you continue to learn and grow. Work hard to get things moving, do whatever it takes. Unless you enjoy hard work though, plan on how to get the fruits of your labor working for you. If you have employees or subcontractors don't hit the false moral dilema of feeling bad about making money from the efforts of others. Very few people have what it takes to be successfully self employed. Those that employ others are vital to the economy. Treat people very well and pay them well, and sleep great at night. |
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06-05-2007, 01:20 AM
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One person who believes in hard work is Arnold Schwarzenegger... for a good article on that see here... This is an excerpt... Quote:
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06-05-2007, 02:45 AM
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Its all about what you can get done in a short amount of time. In high school I was a wrestler and my coaches drilled that concept into my head. Workouts were only 2-3 hours long, but we worked HARD! Now I work from home, and although I don't work many hours during the week, I try to use my time productively. I wouldn't say I work hard though; I just work SMART! Recently I just heard someone speak about the Law of Least Effort. The premise was basically that nature doesn't work hard, and we don't need to work hard to find success either. In fact, he even said that success comes quicker if you work less, and work smart... very interesting stuff. |
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06-05-2007, 02:55 AM
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06-05-2007, 02:58 AM
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06-05-2007, 11:14 AM
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I don't know the that I believe in hard work. Work can be hard times, but it's not better just because it's hard. When I tend to thing of instead of hard/easy, is purposeful. If the work is purposeful, then I'll do it, be a long or a short task. |
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06-05-2007, 06:14 PM
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06-06-2007, 03:53 AM
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Here is a quote from Donald Trump on work ethic... "I rarely take vacations and I think that’s one of the reasons behind my organization’s success. You’ve got to put in the time to reap the rewards." . |
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06-06-2007, 04:36 AM
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Scientists at Carnegie Mellon University have found that our brains are programmed to naturally use the law of least effort when solving problems. I think were naturally programmed to find the simplest way to do things.. and that is not always the hard way... like I said before I believe in working smart, which doesn't need to be the hard way. | |
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