I Still Can't Find a Job

[CroMagna]

Hi gang,

As you know, I'm interested in going back to school to learn a trade and further my career goals. Right now I'm exploring the possibility of becoming a computer programmer. It's a job for introverts who are energized and at peace with solitude and you can wear whatever you want. It's a worthy skill and it pays very well. It fits my Myers Briggs Type Indicator of INTJ. I'm still in the exploratory phase, it's not written in stone, but I'm leaning towards this.

In order to go back to school or enroll in an online program, I need more money. But I still can't find a full time job. I've made a lot of progress psychologically. For example earlier this year, I was in and out of the hospital for schizophrenia and I was drinking heavily. But now I'm stable and happy. Another example, I was obsessed with the double standard but now I've made peace with who I am. Another example, I was obsessed with becoming a stripper while feeling like I was too fat to do it, going in circles, but I conquered my fear by getting hired at a club and now it's out of my system. Now it's time for external progress in one or two main areas, one of them career/finance. I'm concerned because time is dragging on and 2012 is supposed to be my breakthrough year.

I'm not excited about the idea getting a full time job. I don't think I would enjoy the process of being an admin or something in the interim. I don't want to be hanging out with strangers, engaging in dribble conversations, playing their silly games. I don't like making cold calls, acting bubbly to ask if they're hiring. I don't enjoy the interview process, being extroverted, which is draining, wearing a suit and pretending to be excited about the company. I don't like braving the cold in a suit and heels to drop off my resume and schmooze with the hiring executive, especially since in this economy chances are I'll never hear back from them. I don't like the low pay and prestige, the embarassment of telling someone I'm an admin, especially if they know where I went to school. The list goes on. Someone just started a thread that says that you should enjoy the process of getting to a goal.

I could work as an escort, which I would enjoy. I wouldn't be embarassed to tell anyone. It still fits my introversion because it would only involve people I know and are comfortable around. It also involves sex, which relieves stress. If I get six clients a day, I can make over $200,000 in one year. But it's illegal for some reason.

I could also be comfortable with the MLM Ignite. It's prestigious to say you have your own business. My sister got me involved in it, she's highly motivated to do it, and she's normally very conscientious about scams and things of that nature. That also involves working with people I know. Because it's a new company, I have more potential to make money. But MLMs have bad reputations where allegedly only the top earners make any real money.

I could also get books and teach myself programming languages on my own or look for websites with tutorials.

Perhaps there are other options I haven't explored.

Thanks!

[James Fletcher]

Originally Posted by CroMagna

I'm not excited about the idea getting a full time job. I don't think I would enjoy the process of being an admin or something in the interim. I don't want to be hanging out with strangers, engaging in dribble conversations, playing their silly games. I don't like making cold calls, acting bubbly to ask if they're hiring. I don't enjoy the interview process, being extroverted, which is draining, wearing a suit and pretending to be excited about the company. I don't like braving the cold in a suit and heels to drop off my resume and schmooze with the hiring executive, especially since in this economy chances are I'll never hear back from them. I don't like the low pay and prestige, the embarassment of telling someone I'm an admin, especially if they know where I went to school. The list goes on. Someone just started a thread that says that you should enjoy the process of getting to a goal.

Is the economy really that bad everywhere in the US? It's just the way some people are talking they make it sound as if the entire country is plunging towards third world status, which seems highly improbable no matter how bad things may seem.

But what I'm getting at is, would it be possible to do a bit of research to find out if there are more job openings in other towns/cities/states?

[CroMagna]

Originally Posted by James Fletcher

Is the economy really that bad everywhere in the US? It's just the way some people are talking they make it sound as if the entire country is plunging towards third world status, which seems highly improbable no matter how bad things may seem.

But what I'm getting at is, would it be possible to do a bit of research to find out if there are more job openings in other towns/cities/states?

I can't afford to relocate. It would require moving expenses and paying rent somewhere else plus food and traveling expenses. It's too risky because I could move somewhere else and find that there aren't any jobs there either.

[guthrio]

Originally Posted by CroMagna

Hi gang,

As you know, I'm interested in going back to school to learn a trade and further my career goals. Right now I'm exploring the possibility of becoming a computer programmer. It's a job for introverts who are energized and at peace with solitude and you can wear whatever you want. It's a worthy skill and it pays very well. It fits my Myers Briggs Type Indicator of INTJ. I'm still in the exploratory phase, it's not written in stone, but I'm leaning towards this.

In order to go back to school or enroll in an online program, I need more money. But I still can't find a full time job. I've made a lot of progress psychologically. For example earlier this year, I was in and out of the hospital for schizophrenia and I was drinking heavily. But now I'm stable and happy. Another example, I was obsessed with the double standard but now I've made peace with who I am. Another example, I was obsessed with becoming a stripper while feeling like I was too fat to do it, going in circles, but I conquered my fear by getting hired at a club and now it's out of my system. Now it's time for external progress in one or two main areas, one of them career/finance. I'm concerned because time is dragging on and 2012 is supposed to be my breakthrough year.

I'm not excited about the idea getting a full time job. I don't think I would enjoy the process of being an admin or something in the interim. I don't want to be hanging out with strangers, engaging in dribble conversations, playing their silly games. I don't like making cold calls, acting bubbly to ask if they're hiring. I don't enjoy the interview process, being extroverted, which is draining, wearing a suit and pretending to be excited about the company. I don't like braving the cold in a suit and heels to drop off my resume and schmooze with the hiring executive, especially since in this economy chances are I'll never hear back from them. I don't like the low pay and prestige, the embarassment of telling someone I'm an admin, especially if they know where I went to school. The list goes on. Someone just started a thread that says that you should enjoy the process of getting to a goal.

I could work as an escort, which I would enjoy. I wouldn't be embarassed to tell anyone. It still fits my introversion because it would only involve people I know and are comfortable around. It also involves sex, which relieves stress. If I get six clients a day, I can make over $200,000 in one year. But it's illegal for some reason.

I could also be comfortable with the MLM Ignite. It's prestigious to say you have your own business. My sister got me involved in it, she's highly motivated to do it, and she's normally very conscientious about scams and things of that nature. That also involves working with people I know. Because it's a new company, I have more potential to make money. But MLMs have bad reputations where allegedly only the top earners make any real money.

I could also get books and teach myself programming languages on my own or look for websites with tutorials.

Perhaps there are other options I haven't explored.

Thanks!

How To Become A Computer Programmer Without A College Degree

Half Sigma: Why a career in computer programming sucks

CroMagna,

Here are pro and con perspectives on computer programming employment.

My quick 2 cents? Try both perspectives on for size....and, if possible, corroborate your interest in this career path by actually talking to those who are doing these jobs (look up some resumes and contact the applicants yourself to get their personal views on how their search for employment is going).

You may find it very appealing to consider that many computer programming, or developer positions actually allow you to telework from ANY location, including from home, whether the firm you work for is local or not. How cool is that?

Hope this helps.

BTW: I am not a computer programmer, but I know some who are living the life I just described...

[CroMagna]

"I agree with everything you said. I'm now going to jump out of my office window as I have no future."

LMAO!!

(look up some resumes and contact the applicants yourself to get their personal views on how their search for employment is going).

Thanks!

I can actually do that?? You mean by going on Monster or HotJobs and calling those people, having them think I'm an employer, and asking them about their job search?

I may not do programming, I'm still leaning towards it, but in the meantime I want to know what I should do to make money.

[guthrio]

Originally Posted by CroMagna

"I agree with everything you said. I'm now going to jump out of my office window as I have no future."

LMAO!!



Thanks!

I can actually do that?? You mean by going on Monster or HotJobs and calling those people, having them think I'm an employer, and asking them about their job search?

I may not do programming, I'm still leaning towards it, but in the meantime I want to know what I should do to make money.

CroMagna,

No need to pretend anything to anyone. You would only be asking those who are in the field you are seeking information about...to let you know what they, themselves, have experienced. Just that, really. Your own ideas to acquire actual knowledge of a field you're interested in would work just as well....don't you think?

As to what you you should do to make money....consider a paradoxical perspective.

Seek something you would want to do so much that it wouldn't even matter if you were paid for it.....and do it.

Getting paid for what you love to do....is the greatest gift you can possibly give to yourself.

The alternative is to do anything to make money...which may give you what you need expediently, but will always take its toll upon your spirit eventually.

No need to pretend.

To invoke the scenario that you REALLY desire to be as real as the one you want to change, please consider this:

It is not what you are turning FROM that is important, as unpleasant as it is.

It is what you are turning TO that will determine the new result.

It is YOUR script.

If you realize that "script" is a metaphor for self-image, then the phrases "turning from" and "turning to" makes more sense, doesn't it?

You are no more required to repeatedly endure the treatment you have described than you are obligated to read the same sentence in any book over and over and over again.

Why then, would you want to "read" yourself repeating the same script (self-image) in those scenarios when YOU have the "author"-ity to change it?

"Authority"....get it?

YOU are the "AUTHOR" of your OWN life script....

It is YOUR LIFE....and YOUR SCRIPT.

BE THE "BEST-SELLER" OF YOUR OWN LIFE......to you!

BTW: It just occurred to me that you should consider asking for advice from someone you trust at the excellent university you mentioned in your OP....

Why ?

Believe it or not....the situation you are seeking....is seeking you.

Hope this helps....

[CroMagna]

What profound and excellent advice Guthrio! Thank you so much!

No need to pretend anything to anyone. You would only be asking those who are in the field you are seeking information about...to let you know what they, themselves, have experienced. Just that, really. Your own ideas to acquire actual knowledge of a field you're interested in would work just as well....don't you think?

So the plan is to look on Monster and Hotjobs, get the resume, and call the people to ask them about their jobhunt? Would they be up for that, do you think? And what do you mean my own ideas? You mean teaching myself programming languages?

Seek something you would want to do so much that it wouldn't even matter if you were paid for it.....and do it

There are many things I love to do, like reading, learning, discussing, watching documentaries, etc. The only think I can get paid to do that I love to do is have sex. So I think I should pursue the escorting. I love sex and I have a lot of sex for free anyway.

[guthrio]

Originally Posted by CroMagna

What profound and excellent advice Guthrio! Thank you so much!



So the plan is to look on Monster and Hotjobs, get the resume, and call the people to ask them about their jobhunt? Would they be up for that, do you think? And what do you mean my own ideas? You mean teaching myself programming languages?



There are many things I love to do, like reading, learning, discussing, watching documentaries, etc. The only think I can get paid to do that I love to do is have sex. So I think I should pursue the escorting. I love sex and I have a lot of sex for free anyway.

CroMagna,

Actually, the best plan is the one you decide to follow for yourself.

Toward that end, I noticed that results of the poll you posted, (which I did not take), seem to be overwhelmingly in favor of one choice....which obviously differs entirely from the one you've cited above.

I still think you could greatly benefit from seeking advice about all this from the school you attended.

Best of luck with your job search....however it turns out.

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[MariconesUnited]

Originally Posted by CroMagna

What profound and excellent advice Guthrio! Thank you so much!

Thanks Guthrio! I found your post as insightful as CroMagna did!

Originally Posted by CroMagna

It's really scary to spread my wings and just do what I wanna do.

I know. I face that same fear. Face your fears dear. It's tough, but it's most definitely worth it! Your wording made me think of a song I'm learning to sing...this one. It touches me deeply and inspires me.

Do what you love. Explore your passions. Don't do MLM. I've done extensive research on the subject and the ''best'' ones have a success rate of a little under 1%. I wouldn't feel comfortable succeeding in a system that depends on the failure of the vast majority, and I suspect you wouldn't either. Escorting: Do what you love, don't let your clients dictate what you must or mustn't do. Also...6 clients per day doesn't sound like a reasonable estimate to me, not even in the medium-term. It's a very physical job. Protect yourself and respect yourself. And understand that people judge escorts and you're not going to change that mentality all on your own. It's just something to consider when heading down that path.