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Old 05-06-2007, 06:47 AM
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So "the secret" was based on

The Master Key System, written in 1912.

It is a free classic. Though there are about 100 website out there that take it with all their sickening marketing and try to resell it for whatever amount and throw the mystical "secret" on top of it.

So here's the basis of Bill Gates mental algorithm, that helped him get started and that let him know how to fill in everything else.

Here's the link to the free pdf.

http://mindreality.com/masterkeysystem.pdf

It has its own shroud of mysticism to it, but its good at explaining that your concious mind programs your automatic and much more powerful subconcious mind to do things automatically.

And basically that no matter what situation you are in life, how far you are in your success, the same mental program applies, no matter if you are just getting started to your career, all the way up to being a CEO of a billion dollar company and beyond.

SO basically is what I'm saying is, once you learn an efficient mental program/algorithm, use it to be creative and solve your own problems yourself, and that you don't have to read 500 personal development books, because you learn 100x faster if you figure out things yourself [EDIT: I clarify what I mean by this statement below...] .

But I think everyone on this forum understand this... so this is all just wasted words. oh well.
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Thanks for the link.
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Lets take a look at it, sounds nice.
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This is good stuff, I'm skimming through it and I like the fact that it has study questions with the awnsers to give the section a nice summary.
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SO basically is what I'm saying is, once you learn an efficient mental program/algorithm, use it to be creative and solve your own problems yourself, and that you don't have to read 500 personal development books, because you learn 100x faster if you figure out things yourself.
I must respectfully disagree with you…

First… the wheel has already been invented… so, why waste time in re-inventing it again…??? Same is also true for most situations in life… someone before us did the trial and errors to finally find a way that works… So why waste time on reduplicating the same process…???

Second… most of us can read the same statement one hundred times… and reach the same conclusion… however… we can see the same concept proposed by someone else… and, all of a sudden, we see a small distinction that had escaped us before… and voilà… it makes all the difference in the world…

Twenty years ago, Tony Robbins wrote that he had read over 700 books on PD… psychology etc… along with attending every seminar that he could… and even attending the same seminars a multitude of times… and the reason that he did that is the fact that every time that you are subjected to a concept and an idea you have become a new person and thus can reach different conclusions from that same notion…

Most success are not made of giant leaps… but of tiny changes as you progress and move along…

Personally I have attended over 100 seminars… studied “Awaken the Giant Within” by Robbins for two decades… and read countless books on PD… and I’m still hard at it… was it worth it…??? You bet… I am a successful person and a very happy one…

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So "the secret" was based on

The Master Key System, written in 1912.


So here's the basis of Bill Gates mental algorithm, that helped him get started and that let him know how to fill in everything else.
Are you saying this is the book that helped Bill Gates achieve success and wealth or are you saying he applied these principles even if he discovered them somewhere other than the book?
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I must respectfully disagree with you…

First… the wheel has already been invented… so, why waste time in re-inventing it again…??? Same is also true for most situations in life… someone before us did the trial and errors to finally find a way that works… So why waste time on reduplicating the same process…???
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Most success are not made of giant leaps… but of tiny changes as you progress and move along…

Personally I have attended over 100 seminars… studied “Awaken the Giant Within” by Robbins for two decades… and read countless books on PD… and I’m still hard at it… was it worth it…??? You bet… I am a successful person and a very happy one…

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Ok. I do agree with you on that. I was just sooo happy that I could figure out things on my own... but I would not have gotten to this point without reading a self hypnosis book, Steve's blog over the last couple of years (and he himself read tons of PD books, so perhaps he'd just pulled the best out of all of them...), the On Intelligence book, and a smattering of a few books here and there to confirm the insights I was making by myself on the inside, but I just wanted to emphasize that perhaps some people forget to make personal development personal... and what I mean by that is this point:

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Damn this article is good...

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. Human brains are so complex and individual that there is little point in trying to work out how another person ought to reorganize his or her thinking. It is far more effective and efficient to help others come to their own insights. Accomplishing this feat requires self-observation.
Accomplishing this feat requires self-observation.

"It is far more effective and efficient to help others come to their own insights."

Well, this is my framework... guess you guys better make your own... or give you insights on how to map it to your internal feelings... but that's probably a hard thing to do.
... and that was from an article about The Neuroscience of Leadership... some amazing new stuff in that article... and there also is the first summit on Neuroscience Leadership on May 14th...
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Are you saying this is the book that helped Bill Gates achieve success and wealth or are you saying he applied these principles even if he discovered them somewhere other than the book?
just google "master key system" bill gates... though I could see that it might have just been a rumor spread for marketing

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Many successful business people of today are rumoured to have brought about their own success through reading the Master Key System; during the Dot-com boom, allegedly most of the entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley had a copy of the book. Bill Gates himself apparently read the Master Key System whilst he was studying at University; after reading the book, he dropped out of his studies and decided to pursue his DESIRE, which is now known as Microsoft.

We cannot guarantee that through listening to the Master Key Secrets Podcasts you will become as successful as Bill Gates; his success, although it may or may not be associated with the Master Key System, is purely due to HIMSELF. His DESIRE, his PASSION, his DRIVE, and his WILLINGNESS to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to get what he wanted in life. If you can COMMIT to reading the Master Key System every night, COMMIT to doing the exercises at the end of each Part, PROMISE yourself that you will remain COMMITTED and that you WILL complete this study course, and stay positive and constantly tell yourself that you WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, then we are willing to go out on a limb and say we GUARANTEE that you will be SUCCESSFUL in whatever endeavor you choose to pursue.
so basically its still up to you...
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but I would not have gotten to this point without reading a self hypnosis book, ...
What book was that?
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Ok. I do agree with you on that. I was just sooo happy that I could figure out things on my own... but I would not have gotten to this point without reading a self hypnosis book, Steve's blog over the last couple of years (and he himself read tons of PD books, so perhaps he'd just pulled the best out of all of them...), the On Intelligence book, and a smattering of a few books here and there to confirm the insights I was making by myself on the inside, but I just wanted to emphasize that perhaps some people forget to make personal development personal... and what I mean by that is this point:
Thanks you for that clarification… I see your point now…

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Way to go Sunnybayes! Great site. Simple and direct. Things like this should be free to all and as you demonstrate, are. Well done for exposing more people to valuable info. The marketing issue is a tough one. Something I wrestle with. Sadly it almost seems that people dismiss free info as inferior, and only value things with a price tag. I'll tell you a funny experience along those lines that I had when I did a building development project. I thought I would be really spiritual, good, kind and fair, and as I was going to make a big profit , paid my contracters higher rates than normal, and started paying them in advance. Before long, they weren't showing up, and I found that they were at the jobs of the very developers that they moaned about, and who treated them tough, and paid less. So I had no choice but to toughen up on them. Beats me? Like I said, I wonder about the marketing, profiteering and such, but then what can you say about some of those people like Tony Robbins, and the promoters of 'The Secret' etc. Take Tony Robbins for instance (now control yourself here Shamou), dead set legend, walks the talk and has probably, single handedly , genuinely helped more people than anyone ever. Of course he deserves what he has.
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Uplift, also true. If the knowlege is going to become widespread then it takes lots of effort to spread the news. So its probably a good thing that there are so many sites about the secret, I guess that just how the world works... but just seems so annoying sometimes. Just the flashiness and hype gets on my nerves, but I guess that's just what it takes sometimes/most of the time for things to get known by the masses.

I guess there are extremes to the spectrum. You could spend 100 years making the best product but then if you run out of time or money and don't spend time and money distributing the product, then it becomes a waste.

On the other hand, if you only spend 1 hour making some junk and spending the rest of the time and money on marketing, then you are just ripping people off, and it might be wasted time/money on marketing when it no longer works because people find out that its total junk. And it would hurt society because it would not be a fair exchange of value.
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