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Old 09-27-2011, 08:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone else used this website? If so, has it been useful? Just discovered it tonight and have already set up a goal on there, so let's see if it works!

It just helps you set up a 21-day goal to develop a new habit, sends you e-mails each day asking you if you achieved it. If not, you start back at day 1.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Something else you may want to check out:

The Habit Course :zenhabits

They are offering some free scholarships if you can't afford it. See the free webinar ar the bottom of the page.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This has turned out to be really helpful so far. I have now completed 7 days on the 21-day journey of habit change for the one I'm currently doing. You can only do one at a time unless you pay $10. I think I'll do it it since it's good for a whole year and the product is very helpful.
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Do people actually formulate new habits in only 21 days? I ought to try it out just to see if it is true, but I don't have the discipline.
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Do people actually formulate new habits in only 21 days? I ought to try it out just to see if it is true, but I don't have the discipline.
I think it's true. But I'm not sure if it's the doing it for 21 days that causes the new habit, or if it's that lack of determination/discipline inevitably results in falling off the wagon within about two weeks. My experience is that there are things I've tried to do again and again, be it daily running or good eating habits or whatever, that I continually fail and cannot make it past 2 weeks on without missing at least a day or two and then usually completely falling out of it after that. I just lose the determination or discipline after a max of 2 weeks. On the other hand, sometimes I will do something and know from Day 1 or 2 that I will absolutely make it to Day 21, so was it really Day 21 that made it a habit, or was it Day 1?

The habit I'm doing with Habit Forge, I "knew" within a couple days that I would make it this far, and I'm certain that I've already established this habit even though it's only Day 7. It's possible, but unlikely, that I will miss a day within the next two weeks, but even if I do, I know I'll get right back on track.

I like this tool, though, because I wouldn't have even made that commitment without it. Something about clicking on "I did it today!" each day and knowing it'll be reset if I say no really motivates me in this case.

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Old 10-08-2011, 09:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Forming a habit in 21 days is not true, it's an urban myth. Look for the paper entitled:

How are habits formed: Modelling habit formation in the real world


How does this website work, all you get is an e-mail every day and you mark your progress? I don't think that it will work in the long term unless there is some accountability (eg, something like Stickk) or a social dimension (eg, something like Hubbub Health which I am using right now).
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Here is the rest of the citation for anyone else interested.

Lally, Phillippa; van Jaarsveld, Cornelia H. M.; Potts, Henry W. W.; Wardle, Jane. European Journal of Social Psychology, Oct2010, Vol. 40 Issue 6, p998-1009

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Forming a habit in 21 days is not true, it's an urban myth. Look for the paper entitled:

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Old 10-09-2011, 05:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Forming a habit in 21 days is not true, it's an urban myth. Look for the paper entitled:

How are habits formed: Modelling habit formation in the real world


How does this website work, all you get is an e-mail every day and you mark your progress? I don't think that it will work in the long term unless there is some accountability (eg, something like Stickk) or a social dimension (eg, something like Hubbub Health which I am using right now).
Well, we'll see. I am on Day 11 or 12 and doing fine. But I dunno, some days I do still have to force myself to do it just so I don't have to start over on the counter, so it's not 100% sticking yet. But I think if I make a goal for 31 days, it'll have a higher stick rate than 21. :P And I feel that 2+ months would be really solid. But 21 is like the basic threshold, I guess.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Have you considered looking at Loopchange 21 days to change a habit.... 21 days to a better you

It's similar to habitforge - but add in a healthy dose of community (encouragement and accountability).

You CAN get daily reminders if you want them (or not).

You can also run as many missions as you want to for no cost (site is entirely free).

Loopchange 21 days to change a habit.... 21 days to a better you
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Have you considered using loopchange?

Similar to habitforge - but add in a helping of community, encouragement and accountability.

Site is completely free - and you can do as many missions as you want.
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Loopchange is awesome. I just signed up
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I started to sign up for loopchange, but it sounds so laborious and excessive to me and doesn't even mention whether or not it includes the core aspect of Habit Forge that I like. I do not need to update my mission each day, good lord, nor spend time cheerleading others, just to have accountability.
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That's ok! Not every site is a fit for every person.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'laborious' - updating your mission daily (which can be as simple as a forum post saying "Did it" of "done") is optional - not required (though I think it helps to establish the new behavior as it keeps your goal on your mind).

I've seen people who post several times a day - and people who posted only 3 times over the course of 60 days. There is no set in stone requirement.

On another note though - I think you might be underestimating the power that encouraging others can have in your own life. (but again - maybe I'm just a weirdo!)
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That's ok! Not every site is a fit for every person.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'laborious' - updating your mission daily (which can be as simple as a forum post saying "Did it" of "done") is optional - not required (though I think it helps to establish the new behavior as it keeps your goal on your mind).

I've seen people who post several times a day - and people who posted only 3 times over the course of 60 days. There is no set in stone requirement.

On another note though - I think you might be underestimating the power that encouraging others can have in your own life. (but again - maybe I'm just a weirdo!)
Maybe. But the moment I was turned of of the site is when I got to the end off the form where it had a mandatory check box saying "I will receive daily e-mails reminding me to update my mission." So, required or not, it's still gonna bother me. I can't stand websites that try to spam your inbox once you sign up. I know that's not necessarily spam, but to me it would be essentially that!
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Ah! Good point.

That's kind of goofy that that checkbox is there (I'd actually forgotten it since my account is a couple months old) - but when you actually create a mission - you can check a box to 'disable email reminders' (as an option on the page where you would type in a mission update).

For me, I'm confident that I'm not going to 'forget' about my mission - so I check the 'disable' box. That way I never get any emails (unless I opt in to the system that sends me an email if someone comments on my mission - or unless I opt in to email me if a mission I'm following is updated)


Sorry, not trying to argue you into using it or anything
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