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Old 04-30-2007, 04:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I need advice, because I spend too much time on online forums and discussion groups asking for advices and questions instead of actually learning and applying

Thanks in advance
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Old 04-30-2007, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi,

I need advice, because I spend too much time on online forums and discussion groups asking for advices and questions instead of actually learning and applying

Thanks in advance

Do you realize you are doing the exact thing you are saying you want to do less of? You are asking for advice and making questions.

What would your forum usage be like if you didn't "spend too much time on online forums and discussion groups" and actually "learned and applied" something?

Or, what have you learned from all your discussions on forums? Is there anything you got from a forum that you actually used?
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Old 04-30-2007, 05:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cool, you've gotten to the point where you feel like you have enough.

Open up a word document.

Make a 1 page cheat sheet from these posts. If you find something that really rings a bell, copy that sentence and put into the cheat sheet. If the cheat sheet fills up, then you need to summarize it even more.

Effective Online Forum Usage - Tap the benefits of online forums without succumbing to forum addiction.

Problems taking action

Do a 30 day trial on spending an hour planning

Learning but not doing - Hudge thread... have not read it myself... don't know if there is anything good in it....

Did you make the cheat sheet??? Do it!

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Old 04-30-2007, 06:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Final thing.

Tonight make a plan for tommarow. For example, here's mine:

10:00-10:15
get ready
10:20-10:40
go to kcr
10:40-11:00
go to shatin
11:00-11:15
go to travel agency
11:15-11:45
figure stuff out
11:45-12:45
back to library
12:45-12:55
go fill up cuhk printer card money
1:00-2:30
work on paper
3:15-3:25
take a look at the moving out procedures
3:25-3:35
get driver's liscense
3:45-3:15
job stuff
3:15-3:25
see what mozy password is
3:25-3:40
recharge
3:40-5:40
work on paper
5:40-6:10
eat dinner
6:10-6:20
walk back
6:20-8:20
work on paper
8:20-8:35
recharge
high concious
8:35-9:35
plan tommarow and long term goals

I forgot to include lunch....

Noticed how I put in an hour for planning. Notice how I take breaks from keeping myself from burning out.

OK, so to keep yourself from asking too much advice, don't schedule in 5 hours of forum time. Maybe an hour might be reasonable.

Do this, and since you are not used to follow a schedule, you will get burnt out after the first 2 days of doing this. And then you'll give up and say that making plans suck and that you can just do stuff without a plan. And then you'll be back to your old habits of reading the forums for advice.

Also, in the beginning, you are going to have an excellent plan for the next day, and you'll be able to follow that plan for about half the day, but then something will come up that will knock you slightly off your plan, and then the plan for the rest of the day will be ruined.... so you'll forget about it, and get unmotivated...

This will go on for about 2 weeks or so, but if you keep it up for two weeks, you'll get better at keeping to your plan, and will get better at editing your plan in the middle of the day.

But also you might keep up planning for a whole two weeks or so, but then you'll go on vacation for a month, or something will happen that will keep you from planning... and then you'll forget to plan and not do it again for about 9 months, and then you'll be back to your old habits again of reading the forums. And then you'll ask someone for advice, and they'll tell you to plan, and you'll rediscover how effective daily planning actually is.

Also, from being so productive, you will get lots done, but it will be very stressful because you'll be going through so many transitions... like I describe here:

Stress caused from planning I'm still figuring out how to get over this stress from being so productive.

Instead of learning PhotoReading like I talk about here, the transition will be that of installing the habit of planning daily: Pain of transition

You didn't make the cheat sheet did you!!! Do it!! cause you are not going to remember the things that you need to do unless you make the cheat sheet.

Here's the idea behind the cheat sheet: You read the information once in full detail. You copy down the parts that are most effective to you. That way you don't have to read the whole freaking thread over again to remind yourself what to do.. you have the cheat sheet there to remind you.

So this whole process of reading all those post and making the cheat sheet and thinking about how to apply it to yourself might take something like 5 hours. So for you plan for tomorrow, schedule in 1 hour of "learning how to plan" and then over the next 5 days, put in that entry.

And then finally, to be sure that you've really done it, get out a posit note and write "May 6th, post progress". Put this on your computer monitor. After a week on May 6th, come back and report to us on this thread how it went. And put up the cheat sheet that you've made. And then if I don't see that you have not done it, then I'm going to message you and bug you about it.

I've scheduled this into my calendar that I've written this, so I'll be sure to remember this... so you better hold up your end... here's what I put into my life outline on may 6th : "go ♥♥♥♥♥ to that guy about not following through"... hehehe... so prove me wrong. And I'll either make a new thread called "success!" or "nvictor, try again :-)" And if you find that I've not posted either of these threads then you can put up a thread called "Sunnybayes, what an arrogant hypocrite, shame"

Cheers

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Old 04-30-2007, 06:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry for being direct and frank.

If you think you are spending too much time in forums, simply stay clear away from logging into your forums account.

Since you know you are not applying the knowledge, it makes no sense to keep going back for online discussions. Maybe it's an addiction. I don't know.

Maybe it's time to meet up some friends, talk about positive things instead of talking about problems. Leave your PC for the time being.
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Perhaps you could make a pact with yourself that says you will not ask another question until you apply something (in action) that you have learned. For every action you take, you "earn" another question on the boards.
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30 day trial for either not going on internet forums, or doing more stuff, like working or something.
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