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I realise that my subconcious is holding me back, only because it has been poorly programmed by my concious self. I really want to change in a dramatic way, a good way, a positive way to improve my life and life experiences. What do you reckon is the most powerful way to do this? |
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Try some of these meditations. It's helping me a lot. free audio meditations EFT and Ho'oponopono breathing exercise eliminate fear uncertainty depression drug free antidepressant |
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Have you heard of brain entrainment? To affect your subconscious, you could use that in conjunction with subliminal messages, which can be programmed to play just as your mind enters its most receptive state.
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I want to be more positive and proactive so that I can achieve more. I want to earn more, get girlfriends and live a more fulfilling life. To earn more I would need to get more clients, and I would like to setup an internet based business also. To get girlfriends I need to be fun and confident. To get all this I have to have a strong, positive energy and thoughts. I think limiting beliefs, negative habits, inaction, all hold me back. I want to be more focussed and get things done. At the moment too it seems like I have to think about things way too much and still seems im not getting anywhere. I want to have a smoother way of living. At the moment it seems too chaotic |
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Read these articles for a start: The Spiral of Successful Habits | zen habits The Small-Scale Approach to Achieving Great Things | zen habits |
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What you should do now is stop blaming your subconscious mind or any kind of that crap...and commit to do whatever it takes to reach your goal! I know, I know...yeah, yeah, that subconscious mind stuff is powerful, but it's not when you use it as an excuse for holding you back. One of the oldest and most effective to to reprogram that "big piece under the water" mind is affirmation...write down a list of things you want to believe about yourself...write down that list 10 times right after you rise in the morning, and before bed. It's that simple! |
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My guess (!) would be to ignore your nattering brain and just DO. At what point is your mind going to feel satisfied? It's endless. Your mind is trying to get you involved in a cycle. As an example, I am making music and my "subconscious" is terrified but I really have no alternative other than to do it because it's what I want to do regardless of whether or not I feel I am capable. I don't feel great, I don't feel talented, I don't feel 'gifted' but i'm just doing it. There may be better alternatives where you can actually feel wonderful before taking action but I don't have the time to consider them since I wasted most of my 20s procrastinating. I tell my head to shhh and I get on with it. Again, possibly not the kindest or best approach but it's what i'm doing. good luck.
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1. You can't reprogram your mind. You're not a computer. You can only add new "programs." The easiest and quickest way to create a new habit is through being traumatized. Trauma can instantly create an adverse reaction that lasts the rest of your life. But you probably don't want that. I'm sure most of your habits you don't like already have something to do with trauma or anxiety. If you try to alter or change what you already are, you'll just create internal conflict. Only add new habits to what you already are. Look for how your current habits can assist your new habits That creates a smooth and anxiety free transition. Last edited by buckeye; 05-06-2011 at 03:27 PM. |
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ultimate, you can find some free samples on the Lefkoe Method homepage (ReCreate Your Life, I think). Try those and see if they seem like the kind of thing you're looking for. | |
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find out exactly what the method is. If you can explain, in specific detail, what the method is and how it removes existing beliefs, I'm all ears. And I mean remove, not repress out of consciousness. | |
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There's also a free e-book by Morty Lefkoe floating around which explains the details of the method and how it was developed, but you can find it yourself if you so desire. Quote:
It roughly works like this: 1) Formulate the limiting belief 2) Say the belief out loud in order to determine what it feels like to say this belief while believing i to be true 3) Identify past experiences (typically in childhood, but there are exceptions, and workarounds where this is problematic) during which the belief is likely to have been formed 4) Evaluate whether the belief was a reasonable one to form based on the experiences (presumably, the answer is yes, since one did formulate it) 5) Consider other possible interpretations of the same events which would not result in formation of the belief, thereby concluding that the belief is an interpretation rather than an absolute truth 6) Demonstrate to one's own satisfaction that the belief, as an a priori true statement, was not present in the original events (i.e. that one did not "see" the belief because it is not a physical object available to the senses, and that one did not "feel" the belief because events without interpretation are incapable of generating such feelings) 7) Determine that the belief was the product of a subjective interpretation and therefore does not have an objective truth-value 8) Say the belief out loud again; if the process was successful, the words will no longer possess any emotional charge; if not, redo steps 3-8 (Morty says redoing step 6 usually suffices, but I've found redoing step 3 to sometimes be effective if the Method doesn't initially work) All of this is given in the form of audio guidance with animations, and repeated for each of the beliefs in the set a given course covers. As you can see from my description, it is entirely possible to reverse-engineer the Method and also apply it to other beliefs beyond those in a given course. In addition, the course I used ("Natural Confidence") covered four "conditionings" such as "fear of rejection", which used a different process. As to "repress out of consciousness", all I can say to this is that use of the Method results in spontaneous behavioural changes that wouldn't happen if one's beliefs were completely unchanged. Beyond that, I don't see how it's ever possible to prove that something's been removed rather than repressed. As I have mentioned, the free samples are there if you wish to experience the Method for yourself and critique it afterwards. | ||
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One technique that works great and fast is NLP and hypnosis. Another one that you can do yourself is to remember that every unconscious belief was a decision at some point. At some point in your life, you decided to believe that. You decided that that was true. This is good news, because it means that you can decide something else now! It will take a while before that decision will become unconscious, unless you use hypnosis or NLP techniques, but it will work all the same. Whenever you feel that you are making a judgment, thinking a thought or saying something based on that old believe, consciously think about what you would prefer to believe instead, and how you would react in that situation if you were to believe that. Example: if your unconscious belief is "all women hate me" and you see a nice girl and she smiles at you. You may be thinking "she's laughing at me". Then, you realize that that is your old belief running you, and you consciously change that into what you want (for example; "there are women who like me"). Then, think, if you were to believe that last belief.... what would you think instead of "she's laughing at me"? It might be.... "she's smiling at me" "seems like she's happy today" "she has a lovely smile". And consciously think that thought 3x. Why 3? I don't know, but I've found it very effective to cancel out one negative thought with 3 positive ones. It seems to be a strong number.... |
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I could write pages and pages and pages and pages on this topic. Good news: Mind has a very high plasticity, It was designed to adapt quickly to whatever you give it. So it can process new information very well. There are studies about people who concentrate or develop new tasks and are MRIed can learn quickly. Bad news: Extinction is still very difficult. What it means is that losing old habits are never really lost. Your mind never really "loses" things, they just stop being reinforced but they are still there. They are left in the back recesses of your mind and randomly pop up. This phenomenon is why we have "childhood trauma flashbacks" and the unconscious mind. Both are products of learning that never really goes away. As an example, let's say someone with poor self confidence really believes they are worthless. Their parents yelled at them, kids made fun of them, and they just felt ♥♥♥♥♥♥ all the time. This is a type of conditioning where the child believes in whatever is told. Oddly enough this is a survival thing. We adapt to the conditions and to survive, the child has adopted the role of crap. Why is the adaptive? He feels that if he challenges the assertion, or what he's told he is in danger. The parent is a caregiver, and as a child, under their power and control, thus the information a parent passes to a child is accepted at will in the belief that it's necessary to survive. So how does this relate to "reprogramming" 1) Understand the limitations. You can do things differently, but habits are habits and they are there. The key is to catch yourself in them. Habits range from using poor body language to laughing at improper moments, to even using toilet jokes in front of new people. When you find out which habits are poor, be conscious of them. If you have a close friend (or family) ask them what habits about yourself annoy them. You'd be suprised the honest things you're told. I once asked and someone told me my laugh was obnoxious. I had no idea, so I changed that to make it more appealing. I was also told that my "stache" (hair growth) looked nasty and I needed to shave more frequently. There's a wealth of things you can learn about yourself by asking others. Often we never realize what's unattractive about ourselves. 2) Forming new habits require constant and consistent praise/reinforcement. The problem is, you might be doing everything PERFECTLY but you won't get the reward, because no one wants to reward you. Oddly enough when you're good, people want to step you down. In a college group project, I made all the right moves in terms of writing the project. However, ultimately they turned on me because grades were weighted inside the team. The better I look the worse grade they got. So while I did everything "perfectly" I was never rewarded and hence that "good habit" is harder to repeat if it's not reinforced. Sometime in your childhood you may have done the "right thing". Maybe you were a great conversationalist or a kind trusting person, but if the result was getting stabbed in the back, you'd be hard pressed to repeat that action. So control your rewards. Make yourself feel good or something. Often why we never pick up good habits is because they aren't rewarded or we don't get the thing we seek. Another example is, let's say tomorrow you decide you're gonna be an awesome guy and make friends. You will take action and talk to strangers. But by the end of the day you didn't make any friends. You could have done all the right things and moves, but because your end goal didn't work on THAT particular day, you give up on that method, labeling it as "not working". This is an Err that most people make. You have to realize which programmed methods work best, even if you don't get the results you want. 3) When you do things, do them right the first time. This is why they don't recommend people try to learn violin on their own. Violin requires a proper posture and sway. When you learn by yourself you don't have a tutor to show you. So people end up with some horrid habits and it's very hard to correct them. If you do plan to do something, learn from an expert first. Let's say you want to talk to women properly. Either observe or ask someone who seems to do it well for advice. Pay him if you have to. One thing I learned from an "expert" a guy who supposedly had sex with 300 women in 4 years, is that girls who smoke are twice as likely to sleep with you. Oddly enough that was true... very true. He also told me things like when you approach a woman, you want to look like it's something that happens all the time. Act as if you're always approached by beautiful women. He had all these tips and techniques and if I had learned from an idiot at first, I wouldn't have learned all the good habits. Now it's just natural. I could write a lot more, but long enough as it is lol. |
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the original poster: stop thinking and start doing ♥♥♥♥. action is the only way out of the death thought loop. As soon as you begin to take action, all the bs goes away and you start dealing with real problems and solutions. Not imaginary ones. |
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+1 to 180. I think we're in the same ball park, mostly, but so far I've only had the energy to skim the post. Velorien I tried the sample process but lasted about ten minutes. It's primarily psychobabble I can get anywhere. I think you're putting far too much under the umbrella term, "belief." A belief is two ideas: the idea that another idea is true. Although, many people believe there is a single God but have faith that idea is true. They don't necessarily believe it is absolutly true. If the method removes anything, it's the association between idea and idea is true. It doesn't remove the ability to associate truth with any idea. It's possible to once again believe the original idea is true. The memory that you once believed the idea was true isn't removed. So, it's inaccurate to think that the method removes anything. This is semantics but very important semantics IMO. The steps you've given add a multitude of ideas, and beliefs, to the original idea. Nothing is removed. "if the process was successful, the words will no longer possess any emotional charge;" Exactly, but the process doesn't remove any ideas and I don't think emotional charges disappear into thin air either. An emotional charge is not at all an idea. It comes from very different parts of the brain then ideas. It has no content unless we use higher brain ideas to add or associate content. I think the methods you've given support my assertion. "You can only add new 'programs.'" The method includes activating many mental faculties via asking yourself questions. That is a far different animal than believing in something or not. That is what works, "if" it works. Beliefs don't affect emotional charges, the the questioning process, and it's inherent adding of new associations, does. That is pretty much what I was saying in one sentence: "Look for how your current habits can assist your new habits." You don't need an exhaustive and roundabout process of examing your beliefs in order to create useful perspective or to get relief from an unwanted emotional charge. Thanks much for your explanation. The Lefkoe method isn't for me it but was useful to contrast my views with yours. Last edited by buckeye; 05-07-2011 at 02:43 AM. |
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| You've given me some interesting things to think about. So far, however, I can say the Lefkoe Method seems to be working for me because I'm finding spontaneous changes in thought, feeling and behaviour that are consistent with no longer holding certain beliefs. If I find it is no longer as effective as I thought it was, I may turn to your analysis for reasons why. Thank you.
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They say that to really make lasting changes, you have to repeat what you want to change for at least 21 days straight, even a month to round things up. Only then will new programming or habits be engrained into your system.
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