Coaching

[trthskr]

Ever since attending an Anthony Robbins event back in November, I've been comtemplating getting a personal coach. Like I always do I've overanalyzed the hell out of this and keep thinking if it's something worth doing and if so how the heck do I find the right coach out of the hundred of thousands of coaches out there!

After over thinking this thought about getting a coach I finally realized that I'm the type of person who needs that extra push and motivation to get off my ass and take action otherwise I'll just keep thinking about it and never do anything. I guess that support and constant encouragement as well as the accountablity that a coach can provide for their client is essential for me.

My question to you all is, what experiences have you had with a personal coach. How has it helped you? How do I go about finding the right coach? There's sooo many options out there and they all have varied levels of expertise. How od you know who is qualified? Who has the most trainging and who will be the most effective in helping you achieve all your goals?

Thanks

[annie]

Hi trthskr.

There are lots of threads on this forum about coaching. Use the "search" tool and put in "coaching" "coach" or Life Coach". And you'll see lots of response. It was a topic just a week or so ago...which is why maybe nobody is responding.

Good Luck

PS. I am a life coach and I have my own coach. Look for a coach that has had training that is accredited with ICF and try to get a referal if possible. Most coaches offer a free session, which is definitely the way to go because then you can see if you click with them.

[Freelancer]

Yesterday evening a few people told me that I am very good at explaining and motivating people and that I should give a training. Now I never saw it like that, infact I used to be to plain scared to talk to people.

So I decided I'd give coaching a shot and see where it leads me, however I don't want to charge anything right now. So you could say your getting a coach for free and if you don't like how I do this than we depart without harsh feelings.

Its basically a win-win situation for both of us, I get to test whether I'm suited for coaching and you get free coaching without risk.



Ps. No I don't have any formal training, if I like this direction than I'll consider it.

[Shamou]

Hello Remco Heerdink (Freelancer)...

You say you have not formal training... fair enough... however... would you mind telling us what experiences or qualification that you have that would justify your claim that maybe you could serve as a personal trainer...

No offense intended... just curious...

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[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by Shamou

Hello Remco Heerdink (Freelancer)...

You say you have not formal training... fair enough... however... would you mind telling us what experiences or qualification that you have that would justify your claim that maybe you could serve as a personal trainer...

No offense intended... just curious...

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I'm not going to pretend I have a lot of experience or qualification besides my own experiences.

In the past 3 months I've transformed immensely by reading about PD and utilizing it. My surroundings and the people in it are changing with it. I can summarize everything I changed but that really doesn't prove all that much. So instead of telling you how good I am, I want to show it. And the only way to show it is through getting a student and doing the best I can.

The only experience I have is teaching a few people how to play poker and the reactions I got from that are very positive. Ultimately I wasn't really teaching poker but PD, becoming a VERY good poker player has a lot of overlapping ground with PD.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Freelancer

I'm not going to pretend I have a lot of experience or qualification besides my own experiences.

The point is... no one should ask a bald man how to grow hair... yet he probably knows more about the stuff than anyone else...

However, I feel that unless someone has walked the walk... did the deed... and obtained the success... he or she is not qualified to coach anyone just yet..

Just my opinion though...

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[annie]

Originally Posted by Shamou

The point is... no one should ask a bald man how to grow hair... yet he probably knows more about the stuff than anyone else...

However, I feel that unless someone has walked the walk... did the deed... and obtained the success... he or she is not qualified to coach anyone just yet..

Just my opinion though...

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I'd have to agree here. Free coaching is one thing....but paid coaching, you really need to know what you're talking about.

When I first started coaching, honestly it was a terrifying experience.

One interesting thing that may surprise both of you is that in coach training....coaches are NOT suppose to give advice. Advice is the role of a consultant.

Coaching is more about leading the client to discover their own wisdom.

But on the other hand, I have yet had a client that didn't expect some advice and counsel. People hire coaches that they feel are "the expert". Without some really strong communication skills to get people to figure out where they are stuck and what their next step is.......you can't really make it as a coach.

Coaching is about #1 about listening...on all levels. You have to go with your hunch many times and ask them about it. "Fred, I'm hearing you say that you want to keep working for XYZ Corp, but your voice betrays you...what's up with that? What are you really feeling?" Sometimes your hunch is dead on...and other times...you're way off. And as a coach, you have to just let it go because it's not about you...EVER! Keeping with the clients "agenda" is top priority and it takes a lot of maturity to keep on track and to keep your ego 100% out of it.

#2...Coaching is about asking the right questions to cause a shift in the clients thinking. The questions are almost always intuitive and can't be "preplanned"....that takes EXPERIENCE! To be able to listen and come up with a question on the spot that shifts your client's entire thought process produces a fair amount of pressure.

The goal is to take the client from their current unsettled state to an empowered "I can Do it" place. It takes experience and practice.

Finally, you have to acknowledge that shift when you hear it in their voice and then and only then do you create an action plan.

It's an intricate system and I would highly discourage anyone from hanging out a shingle that says "COACH" without some training....at least the basics.

Like I said....Coaching is NOT ABOUT GIVING ADVICE!!!! (that is a small portion and it's only given upon request of the client)

Hope that helps.....I could go on for hours on this subject as I have a couple of appentices I'm training right now. Which reminds me...trthskr....I could set you up with an apprentice if you have any interest in creating a lifevision for a sweet deal

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by trthskr

Ever since attending an Anthony Robbins event back in November, I've been comtemplating getting a personal coach. Like I always do I've overanalyzed the hell out of this and keep thinking if it's something worth doing and if so how the heck do I find the right coach out of the hundred of thousands of coaches out there!

After over thinking this thought about getting a coach I finally realized that I'm the type of person who needs that extra push and motivation to get off my ass and take action otherwise I'll just keep thinking about it and never do anything. I guess that support and constant encouragement as well as the accountablity that a coach can provide for their client is essential for me.

My question to you all is, what experiences have you had with a personal coach. How has it helped you? How do I go about finding the right coach? There's sooo many options out there and they all have varied levels of expertise. How od you know who is qualified? Who has the most trainging and who will be the most effective in helping you achieve all your goals?

Thanks

Use the Law of Attraction to attract the right coach for you. That's what I did. It came via someone I know telling me they have a coach they work with and I began to ask questions. He put me in touch with her via email and I began conversing with her via email. It took me about a year to finally decide to give coaching with her a try and we booked an intro session. After we spoke I *knew* she was the perfect coach for me right now so I hired her. She was the perfect thing I needed. I have been working her for about 3 months now and I've gotten a lot out of the relationship.

I would recommend hiring a coach, BUT I would recommend not rushing it and allowing yourself to find the right coach for you. Think in terms of what you need for your entire life, not just in one area. For me it took over a year to find the right person, but I'm glad I waited because the only thing worst than having no coach is having the WRONG coach

Hope this helps.

By the way, my plans this year are to become a coach as well. Once I get everything figured out, maybe there's a fit between us. I am going to be really picky with the clients I choose though. There will have to be a certain connection for me to accept a client. If you're still looking for a coach by the time I get setup, maybe it might work.

[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by Shamou

The point is... no one should ask a bald man how to grow hair... yet he probably knows more about the stuff than anyone else...

However, I feel that unless someone has walked the walk... did the deed... and obtained the success... he or she is not qualified to coach anyone just yet..

Just my opinion though...

.

I understand what you mean, but there's little I can say over a message board that can tell you I have hair the only way is to show it to you (if you don't mind me following your metafor).

I'd have to agree here. Free coaching is one thing....but paid coaching, you really need to know what you're talking about.

When I first started coaching, honestly it was a terrifying experience.

One interesting thing that may surprise both of you is that in coach training....coaches are NOT suppose to give advice. Advice is the role of a consultant.

Coaching is more about leading the client to discover their own wisdom.

But on the other hand, I have yet had a client that didn't expect some advice and counsel. People hire coaches that they feel are "the expert". Without some really strong communication skills to get people to figure out where they are stuck and what their next step is.......you can't really make it as a coach.

Coaching is about #1 about listening...on all levels. You have to go with your hunch many times and ask them about it. "Fred, I'm hearing you say that you want to keep working for XYZ Corp, but your voice betrays you...what's up with that? What are you really feeling?" Sometimes your hunch is dead on...and other times...you're way off. And as a coach, you have to just let it go because it's not about you...EVER! Keeping with the clients "agenda" is top priority and it takes a lot of maturity to keep on track and to keep your ego 100% out of it.

#2...Coaching is about asking the right questions to cause a shift in the clients thinking. The questions are almost always intuitive and can't be "preplanned"....that takes EXPERIENCE! To be able to listen and come up with a question on the spot that shifts your client's entire thought process produces a fair amount of pressure.

The goal is to take the client from their current unsettled state to an empowered "I can Do it" place. It takes experience and practice.

Finally, you have to acknowledge that shift when you hear it in their voice and then and only then do you create an action plan.

It's an intricate system and I would highly discourage anyone from hanging out a shingle that says "COACH" without some training....at least the basics.

Like I said....Coaching is NOT ABOUT GIVING ADVICE!!!! (that is a small portion and it's only given upon request of the client)

Hope that helps.....I could go on for hours on this subject as I have a couple of appentices I'm training right now. Which reminds me...trthskr....I could set you up with an apprentice if you have any interest in creating a lifevision for a sweet deal

Don't worry about making a responce to long, this definitley has my interest.

Honestly I am not planning to do any payed coaching in the near future, perhaps I will never get into it. I don't really care about the money at this point, my own development both as a coach and a person is more important right now. I feel that coaching can help me with this and if I can help him in the process as well than thats awesome.

If you can set him up with a Apprentice in training please feel free to do this, I'd gladly 'back off'.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by annie
Coaching is more about leading the client to discover their own wisdom.

Thank you for that explanation about "coaching..." However, could you tell us what kind of training that those coaches go through...??? I'm just curious that's all...

.

[annie]

Originally Posted by Shamou

Thank you for that explanation about "coaching..." However, could you tell us what kind of training that those coaches go through...??? I'm just curious that's all...

.

It's typically about 6 month to a year training program. Mine really wasn't too time consuming. I had class 2 hours a week. I had to have a meeting with a partner one hour a week. I had an hour or so of assignments and I had to coach 2 people for practice each week. So maybe 6-8 hours a week for 6 months.

Probably the hardest part was coaching in front of the teacher and the whole class. I had to do this 3 times during the 6 months and it's unsettling to do it knowing you're such an amateur and that the class is going to critique you when you're done.

I know other programs vary. I'm only familiar with what I did.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by annie

It's typically about 6 month to a year training program. Mine really wasn't too time consuming. I had class 2 hours a week. I had to have a meeting with a partner one hour a week. I had an hour or so of assignments and I had to coach 2 people for practice each week. So maybe 6-8 hours a week for 6 months.

Probably the hardest part was coaching in front of the teacher and the whole class. I had to do this 3 times during the 6 months and it's unsettling to do it knowing you're such an amateur and that the class is going to critique you when you're done.

I know other programs vary. I'm only familiar with what I did.

Thank you for that reply annie... it has led me to read this... and get further information on "coaching" ...a profession that I did not know existed until today... so, thanks to you, I will go to bed a little more informed than I was when I got up this morning...

And I wish you all the best in your chosen profession...

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