Photoreading

[Chris]

I bought the PhotoReading course (Deluxe Version) on the merit of Steve's recommendation and although I've only just started the second CD, I have certainly been impressed with the quality of the product so far.

I found the dictionary excerise on the first CD quite tough. I didn't really get any breath-taking results from that - but then I'm not suprised or discouraged with this having only just started on the program. Paul Scheele (the author/narator) explains that he is trying to give you an early taste of the PhotoReading experience but preps you not to be put off if it doesn't work first time (as with learning anything new!)

Just wondering whether anyone else is trying this course? Experiences?

[Greg]

Glad you brought this up. I was thinking of making the purchase later on but would like to hear more reviews before I do so. Maybe when the forum flood-gates open this Friday, there will be more people who can comment on their experiences of this product.

[Ilya]

I'am going through it as well lately. I don't do the exersises this time, though. I want to listen it through and try to figure the key skill. I've known the man, who spontaneously stumbled upon photoreading, when doing speed-reading course. It gives me hope, that photoreading can be learned even faster then as in Paul Sheele's method. If I fail, I can always go through the course "properly"

[Trina]

Probably a dumb question... but what is PhotoReading? Can someone link me somewhere? Pretty please??

[Yynatago]

Steve gives glowing recommendations of photoreading in his blog and website. It is basically a program that teaches you the skills to read a book (or anything) very quickly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather it teaches a different set of skills to speed reading, encouraging you to soak up the contents of the book without necessarily reading every word.

I brought the deluxe version myself. It is currently sitting next to my "Do It Now" book I haven't read yet.

Regards,
From Shannan

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Yynatago

I brought the deluxe version myself. It is currently sitting next to my "Do It Now" book I haven't read yet.

Regards,
From Shannan

LOL Nice one!

[Ilya]

Originally Posted by Trina

what is PhotoReading? Can someone link me somewhere? Pretty please??

Sure. First of all - http://www.stevepavlina.com/photoreading/
Then - http://www.photoreading.com/

In essence photoreading is the reading technique, that relies on your subconscious mind. Using this method, you enter a certain state of mind, look at the pages of the book, then do some excersises so that the information becomes accessible to you conscious mind. The result of all this is that you percieve the information at a very high speed, while your retention levels remain as high as with normal reading. How high is high speed? I've personally tested the guy who had effective reading speed (adjusted for retention errors) of 30000 (yes, thirty thousands) wpm. This is way beyond the results that can be achieved with usual speed-reading techniques.

[Savage]

After going through the PhotoReading Deluxe Course during the summer, I wrote a page about it here:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/photoreading/

There were a couple blog posts on it as well:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/10/photoreading/

and

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ions-answered/

I thought the course was excellent, and I got positive results with it as I mentioned in the links above, so I made arrangements with Learning Strategies to offer a 59% discount to StevePavlina.com visitors in exchange for promoting PhotoReading across the site.

So far I've been told that hundreds of people bought PhotoReading via the StevePavlina.com discount, so there should be plenty of people here who can share their results.

The system comes with a 30-day money back guarantee, which can be extended to 6 months upon request, so that made it easy for me to recommend. My results have been great, but it does take time to go through the CDs and DVDs, so you really get out of it what you put into it.

I've been evaluating a number of other products as well, and if I find others that are really good, I'll try to make a similar discount arrangement. Because of the size of this audience, I have a good shot at negotiating group discounts for high-quality personal development products. I'm extremely picky about what I'll recommend though, so I generally reject more than 90% of the products I evaluate.

[Trina]

Thanks so much everyone! I am definitely going to check this out. I really don't like reading that much (I have bad eyes and broken glasses so I either get a headache or fall asleep) but I know I am missing out on so much not reading books. I did manage to make it through Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy a few months ago and I thought the book was hilarious but I hated the reading part. This sounds like something I could benefit from!

[jkmuller]

From what I've seen, I'm extremely skeptical about the whole PhotoReading process. I should mention I have not bought the course and have only seen the book. I would, however, love to have my opinion changed. If it were real, which it seems too good to be I admit, it would be worth far more than its cost to any serious reader. I have many more books than time to read them; I'm sure that is true with many of you as well. So, if you really believe in this method, please explain it to me! Do you really get results or is it a watered down version of normal reading with a bunch of "new age" stuff thrown in?

[Savage]

The PhotoReading book is included with the self-study course along with a couple other books. IMO it would be really hard to learn PhotoReading from just the book. It contains much of the info from the self-study course, but there's something about going through the process with the audio CDs I found much more helpful. I think the reason is that PhotoReading is an applied skill, not merely an idea you need to absorb.

The book gets mixed reviews on Amazon, and I think that's with good reason. Probably the best analogy I can offer is that learning PhotoReading from the book would be like trying to learn martial arts from a book. You will gain some understanding of the skill, but it's unlikely you'll pick up the skill itself. It's not quite as extreme as with the physical skills of martial arts, but it's close.

I've never been to one of the live PhotoReading seminars, but I imagine that's probably the best way to learn it. The DVDs have recordings of the live seminars, and they contain lots of additional tips beyond the book.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the way Learning Strategies chooses to market the PhotoReading system. I think the way they promote the benefits is too new agey and over the top. That type of marketing is common with personal development products though, so I'm used to looking past it.

The basic PhotoReading process involves a series of passes where you aim to get the material into your subconscious mind and then consciously activate the material. Perhaps the most important thing I learned is that it's critical to have a clear purpose for everything you read. When you read without purpose, your subconscious mind has no clear guidance on what material to assimilate and make available consciously vs. what to disregard. But when you read with a clear purpose, your subconscious will act like a homing system, processing the material below the level of conscious awareness and bringing to your attention the exact material you need to be aware of consciously.

Initially this feels like a freakishly strange way to read. It takes a while to get comfortable with the idea that your goal is to extract information that satisfies your purpose, not to read every word. As I mentioned previously, I wouldn't use PhotoReading if my goal was to enjoy a fiction book. But it's a great tool for extracting non-fiction information. The real heart of the system is conditioning your subconscious mind to make you consciously aware of the information and ideas that satisfy your purpose.

In a way PhotoReading fits nicely with the whole intention-manifestation model. You're basically saying to the universe, here are my questions, and if the answers are to be found in this book, bring them into my conscious awareness.

Without a clear purpose for reading, PhotoReading is unlikely to work well.

Think of PhotoReading like a search engine. If you type in nothing, you get no results. But if you're clear about what you want, the search results appear. If you're fuzzy about what you want, you get fuzzy results. So the more you know why you want to read a book, the better PhotoReading works.

[starkey]

I have completed the Photoreading course with the CDs and exercises. I got some useful ideas which is great because I was studying for a tough licensing exam. But I am still skeptical that the process actually works. However I am very motivated to keep trying with it for the next month at least. The power that I immediatly got from the CDs was how helpful it is to simply look at material again and again and not stress about totally understanding the material in one go.

My suspicion is that if you use photoreading for a fluffy book you will be surprised how much you got simply because you _already knew the material_. So I am going to try photoreading some simple books on material that I am curious about, but I am not already familiar with. Like culture in Venezuela. Or a biography of the Beatles or something.

[jdenyer]

I also purchased the Deluxe PhotoReading course recently. I wouldn't normally buy such an expensive course, particularly from abroad, but I was encouraged by Steve Pavlina's articles on PhotoReading, the hefty discount and the six month returns policy. The package arrived after 16 days of a possible 2-6 week international delivery window, which was a good start.

So far, I've tried the dictionary test on CD1 (where you do a basic PhotoRead in a dictionary for a couple of minutes and then pick a word that comes to mind and picture where on the page the word was) and was pleasantly encouraged by the results - 2 of 5 words were pretty much spot on and a further 2 words were close. I found the page turning a little awkward, but I guess that'll come with practice. I'm looking forward to trying this again, but the dictionary supplied is pretty basic (it has pictures in it!), so I think I'll use a larger British English dictionary - can't be learning US spelling now, can I?

I've also worked through CD2, but I was not in the right environment (background noise, visual distractions, tired), which seems to be so important to getting PhotoReading right. I'll give this CD another go when I've got the house to myself.

Whilst, I've not worked far into the course, I'm impressed with the overall professional nature of it. Paul Scheele talks the listener through the course at an easy, timely pace and makes it feel quite personal. Minor gripe: The constant reference to turning the tape over or pausing the tape, perhaps a little editing to bring the course into the CD era wouldn't go amiss.

[toasterwater]

I live in Japan, and cannot fill out online forms with my address, so i have things that i order online sent to my parents house in the states, and they send it to me. Unfortunately, they have an obscure address, so the package hasnt even arrived at their house yet. Its already been at least a week since i ordered it, and dont honestly expect to see it for at least another week. Because of this i would like to extend the 30 day money back guarantee, but i dont know how. Can someone please tell me how to extend?

[Nico Kempe]

I purchased just the book at a cheap bookstore, just to try it out, see if it really is that good.
So I've read the book in all the ways it advises, and photoread about 6 books and some printed documents.

Unfortunatly, I can't say I've noticed much of it yet. Maybe I'm just too eager to learn it so it blocks the information coming to my consious mind, or maybe I wasn't relaxed enough to start with.

Anyway, when I can afford it I'll probably order the whole package bacause I do believe it will work, eventually..

[Vinny]

I also completed the photoreading course. I must say wow! The course actually works. I can feel my mind expand and absorb the information after reading and using the activating methods they teach within the course. I have actually used this method for my various reading material. Great Product.

[maddy]

Originally Posted by Vinny

I also completed the photoreading course. I must say wow! The course actually works. I can feel my mind expand and absorb the information after reading and using the activating methods they teach within the course. I have actually used this method for my various reading material. Great Product.

It will be pleasure if you help me.While I photo read I can grasp as many words in the book but I cannot make sense with the words which I grasped and the contents which I go through involves lot of technical stuffs.Thanks a lot for replying.

[maddy]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

The PhotoReading book is included with the self-study course along with a couple other books. IMO it would be really hard to learn PhotoReading from just the book. It contains much of the info from the self-study course, but there's something about going through the process with the audio CDs I found much more helpful. I think the reason is that PhotoReading is an applied skill, not merely an idea you need to absorb.

The book gets mixed reviews on Amazon, and I think that's with good reason. Probably the best analogy I can offer is that learning PhotoReading from the book would be like trying to learn martial arts from a book. You will gain some understanding of the skill, but it's unlikely you'll pick up the skill itself. It's not quite as extreme as with the physical skills of martial arts, but it's close.

I've never been to one of the live PhotoReading seminars, but I imagine that's probably the best way to learn it. The DVDs have recordings of the live seminars, and they contain lots of additional tips beyond the book.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the way Learning Strategies chooses to market the PhotoReading system. I think the way they promote the benefits is too new agey and over the top. That type of marketing is common with personal development products though, so I'm used to looking past it.

The basic PhotoReading process involves a series of passes where you aim to get the material into your subconscious mind and then consciously activate the material. Perhaps the most important thing I learned is that it's critical to have a clear purpose for everything you read. When you read without purpose, your subconscious mind has no clear guidance on what material to assimilate and make available consciously vs. what to disregard. But when you read with a clear purpose, your subconscious will act like a homing system, processing the material below the level of conscious awareness and bringing to your attention the exact material you need to be aware of consciously.

Initially this feels like a freakishly strange way to read. It takes a while to get comfortable with the idea that your goal is to extract information that satisfies your purpose, not to read every word. As I mentioned previously, I wouldn't use PhotoReading if my goal was to enjoy a fiction book. But it's a great tool for extracting non-fiction information. The real heart of the system is conditioning your subconscious mind to make you consciously aware of the information and ideas that satisfy your purpose.

In a way PhotoReading fits nicely with the whole intention-manifestation model. You're basically saying to the universe, here are my questions, and if the answers are to be found in this book, bring them into my conscious awareness.

Without a clear purpose for reading, PhotoReading is unlikely to work well.

Think of PhotoReading like a search engine. If you type in nothing, you get no results. But if you're clear about what you want, the search results appear. If you're fuzzy about what you want, you get fuzzy results. So the more you know why you want to read a book, the better PhotoReading works.

Sir I am a student from computer stream.The books I read involves lot of technical and mathematical content . Is it possible to read technical and mathematical books using this method.

[Accumulator of abundance]

Originally Posted by jkmuller

From what I've seen, I'm extremely skeptical about the whole PhotoReading process. I should mention I have not bought the course and have only seen the book. I would, however, love to have my opinion changed. If it were real, which it seems too good to be I admit, it would be worth far more than its cost to any serious reader. I have many more books than time to read them; I'm sure that is true with many of you as well. So, if you really believe in this method, please explain it to me! Do you really get results or is it a watered down version of normal reading with a bunch of "new age" stuff thrown in?

I have tried, just the book, and certainly it amazed me,the proccess is sooo easy and the benefits are impressive, give it a try, just a try for 4 weeks with many books as you can, to fully realize your new capacity, and then to see the difference, spend 4 weeks without using photoreading, by reading as usual.

You will notice the amazing difference.

[jaden]

I was very skeptical after hearing about Steve's experiences with Photoreading, but I watched both of their marketing videos, read reviews of the book on Amazon and I'm interested enough to try it out. Plus, my Amazon affiliate earnings finally broke $100 (it only took a few years) so I'll be using that money to buy the classic version. I'm excited to see how it works and would love to hear about other people's experiences with it.

[abalraj]

I bought this Photo Reading CD course in Feb 2007 and I was pretty happy with the CD1 and I was able to exactly pinpoint one word with picture and thus improved my confidence in going further.

[Elmex]

Take a look at this:
PhotoReading - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or go directly to:
CSA

These are sources from other people but the most important is your/my own experience which is: Photoreading is SCAM.

You're free to disagree with me but please be honest with yourself, all I read from non-affiliated users here is something like: "I'm on my way", "I hope", "I'm confident".......

No one actually does here achieve the fabulously promised reading speeds AND comprehension levels. You better find some time and strength for reading your stuff and accept that there's no gain without pain.

[RT Wolf]

^ It's amazing how the human mind works. The first time I went through this thread when it was first made, all I could see was the negativity and hte people who either said it didn't work for them or otherwise, too. However, when I went through it again, I began to notice other people for whom this did work.

It's a combination of the theory of Reticular Activation System and confirmation bias. In layman's terms: we see what we want to see. I wanted to see hope the second time I read this thread and I saw it, but the first time I only saw the doubt because I had doubt inside.

I also took the liberty of PMing people who said they had the course to ask them how they're doing. Adrienne kindly posted her review and a few other people responded with positive words.

It's actually that sort of a block of wanting not to either be suckered or be wrong which blocked me from making progress with photoreading for a long time. I'm doing much better now. I do not believe Photoreading to be a scam. I have yet to see whether the truly grandoise claims (70% comprehension in 20 minutes) is possible in my own experience, and after how much practice/experience it is (or on what sort of material), but I am getting through material fairly quickly right now.

[Ilya]

I still haven't tried Photoreading to make my final judgement.

However, I know one person who has Photoreading kind reading speed. I'm sure of that, I tested the guy myself. He learned to read this fast during one of the more traditional speed-reading courses. Ironically, his results were not intended. The usual results for that course are much lower. He took a wrong turn somewhere along the way and found a shortcut. What he described - how he sees the page, how he recalls information is very similar to what Paul Sheele describes.

I've met the guy before I even heard about Photoreading and that is the reason that I'm prepared to give Photoreading a try.

I'm not sure that Photoreading teaching method is optimal. For me its value is the modeling that Paul did. The description of the destination point, not the road. Does this value justify the price? For me it does. Everyone else has to decide for themselves.

Making statements that something is a scam, is useless, unless you can prove it. And it is hard. That is why there is so many scammers. In case of Photoreading, the chances are that there is something to it. Even if it is just a proper information organization and a belief that you don't have to read every word. It can actually make you perform worse on the standard reading comprehension tests, but at the same time increase the quality of your life.
Which would you prefer?

[Akashic_Librarian]

I just came across this thread...you know I notice that people who have bad luck with this program tend to be people who thought it was all bull to believe in..the typical sceptic is very much like this:

Life is hard

There is no such thing as a free lunch

I don't have spiritual beliefs because i am a realist

OMG you are all such n00bs, you think you are so good but you are all stupid cos you believe this ****, I r leet cos I know this is rubbish...oh and your all stupid...



Now if I take that and I put it into a "sceptic" Translator you get this:

Ohh I don't want to put myself out there because I might fail...What if I can't do it, or it doesn't work...Imagine if I was happy..and I had no one to blame it on...what would I do...I am scared...wheres my sceptic-hat...

[maddy]

Hi Its my pleasure to be a part of this forum I believe every one gains more and learns more by sharing their knowledge and experience in this forum
Have a nice day.

[Kaybee]

I love to read, but there are tons of books and materials to get through. If this product can help me read more (in my limited amount of time) so I can continue my personal development, then I'll give it a look.


I've been contemplating this product for quite some time. This post gives me an incentive to explore further.

Thanks.

Kim
Self Personal.com - Inspirational Thoughts, Sayings, and Words for Positive Thinking and How to Be Happy

[Izanagi]

I tried it and I thought it worked okay, but it's not something I would use for every book I read. I guess I just like reading the 'old way' too much It taught me some valuable lessons on reading though. Like preparing before reading and thinking about what you want from the book you are about to read.

I now mostly use the reading techniques from the Four Powers for Greatness course instead (rhythmic purusal and skittering).

[billionairekid]

The reason the price is so high is to deter those people who aren't serious about participating in the program. The more something costs, the less likely it is that a dabbler is going to come along and try the product just to try it. You have to be dedicated and persistant for this process to work. It involves techniques that currntly challenge many peoples beliefs to a pretty high degree. I understand how the process works and I plan on taking time over the next few weeks to develop my photoreading skills.

I will report back my results when I find out what they are.

[Cochonette]

The reason the price is so high is to deter those people who aren't serious about participating in the program. The more something costs, the less likely it is that a dabbler is going to come along and try the product just to try it. You have to be dedicated and persistant for this process to work. It involves techniques that currntly challenge many peoples beliefs to a pretty high degree. I understand how the process works and I plan on taking time over the next few weeks to develop my photoreading skills.

Sorry, but I'm not buying that argument. Learning a foreign language also requires a lot of dedication and persistence, and when I first started learning French online you could say I was a dabbler. I tried again a year later, and it took me a whole 11 months after that before I started to get past the beginner beginner level to intermediate beginner. I quit many times. French people made fun of me. Now my French is somewhere between advanced intermediate and beginner advanced. I never spent a dime on learning French. There are so many language dabblers, but if you had told me, "I want to see if you're dedicated first so pay me $250 if you want to learn French," I would never have learned French.

So nice try. It's not as if this guy has to put in more effort if you turn out to be just a dabbler.

Anyway, I got a copy of a few of the audio files from PhotoReading. I listened to the first two. I think the reason he keeps telling you "Re-Lax, Re-Lax, Re-Lax" is so you don't get angry at him for sounding like a scam artist.

Oh, btw, one time I had the opportunity to get my school to order some Pimsleur CDs to beginner's Romanian for $100. They promised to teach me in just weeks! The only thing they helped me with was pronunciation and a little bit of formal speech. I did most of my learning for free online with people who actually cared about whether I learned the language or not.