Photoreading

[maxdof]

Hi to all,

My Photoreading experience began almost 2 years ago when I was working in Africa and had a lot time to spend. I bought the Deluxe version with the discount of Steve.

I tried and tried again and didn't see any convinient result. Maybe I didn't try hard enough, maybe my purpose wasn't clear enough, maybe I was too much skeptical, maybe blabla maybe blablabli. It is all like in any NLP system: if it doesn't work, YOU did something bad.

I quitted any training, thought I had been a fool to buy this and when I left Africa, I left everything there. I am not that dumb and have a digital copy of everything, just ' in case of'.

Let's admit it works anyway, or can work, I will know soon enough because I have understood that the PR step can be compared to entering in a trance mode, comparable to hypnose states, to overpass you conscience and allow to put directly in your subconscience all the pages that go in front of you. Believing this scam, allows me to physically enter in a state, further than the 'relax' state; btw, now everytime I hear Paul R. Scheele says 'relax' with his deep sexy NLP loosy voice, it upsets me, I am refering to the paraliminal sessions.

Anyway, knowing that, I allow myself to trust the system and imagine all the words forming a blue cloud going directly from the book to my mind. I imagine and see myself in the position I am and see the substance go directly in my mind. It helps my conscience NOT to focus on the process, to focus on something else, and allows my subconsciense to absorb everything, and maybe filter, but badly, because I didn't define my purpose in the good way, or whatever.

When I am over, I shake my head like a wet dog and imagine and say to myself that all the data I just put in my head is connecting everywhere in my head, because I am shaking it. The sentences (affimation/confirmation blabla) proposed in the book are so long and loosy and boring and so not me... and definitly not fun, besides the ridiculousness of course.

I will see if it works because I photoread on purpose some stuffs, and read as usual others. I photoread stuff I will need on my peronnal life, and other I will need in my professionnal life. So I deeply hope the system works, or I will be burned!

I hope it will work, and I pretty trust it because I am way more relaxed in the way of using it than before. Be relaxed YOUR way.

That is what I don't like in the course: it is not relaxing. It tells you: it is easy, and then you spend hours trying to figure out what is going on. It tells you: this and this and this and this and that are very very very important to make it work, and tells you if you miss some steps, maybe it will work anyway , and provides you of exemples of people who skip every step but the 3rd one. etc... etc... etc... it is very confusing.

I think it should tell you very deeply that
- you have to create your own photoreading style
- they provide you the global system, do whatever you want with it, try to master everything then create your own system. I can't stand the expression "Whole Mind System", they day you will be using my whole mind, my man, is not yet arrived. Another marketing scam that provide nothing but false expectations.

I think it is hard for people to tell it works and to tell us how, and then for us to try the same way and make it works, because we all do it differently, don't we?

So, relax, not in the way LearningStrategies tell you, relax in your own way, own the product, consider everything important and when you fill something working, jump on it, masterize everyhting you can, and skip the steps you fill unecessary, ok now... I am giving my advice on how to use the prodcut, but it might not work for you.

What gave me some hope lately was to NOT open the guide which is too much childish, boring, not very weel written, messy and full of misdirections like 'do this it is very important, but if you don't it is ok, what is really important is to relax and trust the system'..; what? What am I supposed to do?

I liked this page because it gives some tips and hints, in a casual way
PhotoReading Tips & Hints

I still need a proof anyway, why we don't have on youtube people showing how great photoreaders they are?

[maxdof]

Photoreading used to be faster
YouTube - Photo Reading Infomercial - "Computer Speed"

[Aum]

Originally Posted by maxdof

Hi to all,

My Photoreading experience began almost 2 years ago when I was working in Africa and had a lot time to spend. I bought the Deluxe version with the discount of Steve.

I tried and tried again and didn't see any convinient result. Maybe I didn't try hard enough, maybe my purpose wasn't clear enough, maybe I was too much skeptical, maybe blabla maybe blablabli. It is all like in any NLP system: if it doesn't work, YOU did something bad.

I quitted any training, thought I had been a fool to buy this and when I left Africa, I left everything there. I am not that dumb and have a digital copy of everything, just ' in case of'.

Let's admit it works anyway, or can work, I will know soon enough because I have understood that the PR step can be compared to entering in a trance mode, comparable to hypnose states, to overpass you conscience and allow to put directly in your subconscience all the pages that go in front of you. Believing this scam, allows me to physically enter in a state, further than the 'relax' state; btw, now everytime I hear Paul R. Scheele says 'relax' with his deep sexy NLP loosy voice, it upsets me, I am refering to the paraliminal sessions.

Anyway, knowing that, I allow myself to trust the system and imagine all the words forming a blue cloud going directly from the book to my mind. I imagine and see myself in the position I am and see the substance go directly in my mind. It helps my conscience NOT to focus on the process, to focus on something else, and allows my subconsciense to absorb everything, and maybe filter, but badly, because I didn't define my purpose in the good way, or whatever.

When I am over, I shake my head like a wet dog and imagine and say to myself that all the data I just put in my head is connecting everywhere in my head, because I am shaking it. The sentences (affimation/confirmation blabla) proposed in the book are so long and loosy and boring and so not me... and definitly not fun, besides the ridiculousness of course.

I will see if it works because I photoread on purpose some stuffs, and read as usual others. I photoread stuff I will need on my peronnal life, and other I will need in my professionnal life. So I deeply hope the system works, or I will be burned!

I hope it will work, and I pretty trust it because I am way more relaxed in the way of using it than before. Be relaxed YOUR way.

That is what I don't like in the course: it is not relaxing. It tells you: it is easy, and then you spend hours trying to figure out what is going on. It tells you: this and this and this and this and that are very very very important to make it work, and tells you if you miss some steps, maybe it will work anyway , and provides you of exemples of people who skip every step but the 3rd one. etc... etc... etc... it is very confusing.

I think it should tell you very deeply that
- you have to create your own photoreading style
- they provide you the global system, do whatever you want with it, try to master everything then create your own system. I can't stand the expression "Whole Mind System", they day you will be using my whole mind, my man, is not yet arrived. Another marketing scam that provide nothing but false expectations.

I think it is hard for people to tell it works and to tell us how, and then for us to try the same way and make it works, because we all do it differently, don't we?

So, relax, not in the way LearningStrategies tell you, relax in your own way, own the product, consider everything important and when you fill something working, jump on it, masterize everyhting you can, and skip the steps you fill unecessary, ok now... I am giving my advice on how to use the prodcut, but it might not work for you.

What gave me some hope lately was to NOT open the guide which is too much childish, boring, not very weel written, messy and full of misdirections like 'do this it is very important, but if you don't it is ok, what is really important is to relax and trust the system'..; what? What am I supposed to do?

I liked this page because it gives some tips and hints, in a casual way
PhotoReading Tips & Hints

I still need a proof anyway, why we don't have on youtube people showing how great photoreaders they are?

Don't worry. You are not alone, in fact, you are in the majority.
What is troublesome with Photoreading is it will project the picture of a product that it is not. Just see their infomercial or the ads on their official website stating all the reasons "Why you should buy this revolutionary product".

However, that is what everyone does to sell their product. Whether it is fat reducing supplement, car, pharmaceutical pills, or even educational institutes. And, one wouldn't really blame them. Consider this: What if any company tells you that their product is good and you should expect slow steady improvement in the long run if you put some effort into it? Would it work? Would you be as willing to buy it?

Everyone is looking for a magic pill that would turn their life in an instant. They don't want to work hard for it. They don't want to wait 4-6 months to get results. They want it NOW.

But, the truth is: All improvements take time ;-)

And, this is the cause of all frustration. Photoreading is a good technique. It teaches you a lot of effective ways to learn better. And, you would benefit from it if you put your time and effort into learning it. But, you won't whiz past all the books in your curriculum, as the marketing team would have you believe. You won't read at 25,000 wpm. You won't be able to read 5 books a day. And, therefore, it is not worth its current cost.

Also, you should consider speed reading. Infact, it would help you photoread better. I have found programs like eyeQ and Reader's edge very beneficial. You can reach 1000 wpm (with decent comprehension) if you are diligent, which is a great improvement.

Finally, in my experience, the test of any technique is how easy it is to understand and implement. Unfortunately, Photoreading doesn't pass this test.

[maxdof]

Thank you! I think just like you.
All the steps of Photoreading, but the 3rd step (Photoread) are interesting, and as the guy from the Nasa said, the Photoread step gives unbased confidence, and false expectations, and true diappointments.
Have you seen this?
YouTube - Photo Reading Infomercial - "Computer Speed"
Pete Bissonete " ' ~~~reads ~~~' " faster than the screen refreshes... LOL
Claiming to read 500 000 wpm or smt scammy like that. Hilarious.

[maddy]

Hi Its my pleasure to be a part of this forum I believe every one gains more and learns more by sharing their knowledge and experience in this forum
Have a nice day.

[maddy]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

The PhotoReading book is included with the self-study course along with a couple other books. IMO it would be really hard to learn PhotoReading from just the book. It contains much of the info from the self-study course, but there's something about going through the process with the audio CDs I found much more helpful. I think the reason is that PhotoReading is an applied skill, not merely an idea you need to absorb.

The book gets mixed reviews on Amazon, and I think that's with good reason. Probably the best analogy I can offer is that learning PhotoReading from the book would be like trying to learn martial arts from a book. You will gain some understanding of the skill, but it's unlikely you'll pick up the skill itself. It's not quite as extreme as with the physical skills of martial arts, but it's close.

I've never been to one of the live PhotoReading seminars, but I imagine that's probably the best way to learn it. The DVDs have recordings of the live seminars, and they contain lots of additional tips beyond the book.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the way Learning Strategies chooses to market the PhotoReading system. I think the way they promote the benefits is too new agey and over the top. That type of marketing is common with personal development products though, so I'm used to looking past it.

The basic PhotoReading process involves a series of passes where you aim to get the material into your subconscious mind and then consciously activate the material. Perhaps the most important thing I learned is that it's critical to have a clear purpose for everything you read. When you read without purpose, your subconscious mind has no clear guidance on what material to assimilate and make available consciously vs. what to disregard. But when you read with a clear purpose, your subconscious will act like a homing system, processing the material below the level of conscious awareness and bringing to your attention the exact material you need to be aware of consciously.

Initially this feels like a freakishly strange way to read. It takes a while to get comfortable with the idea that your goal is to extract information that satisfies your purpose, not to read every word. As I mentioned previously, I wouldn't use PhotoReading if my goal was to enjoy a fiction book. But it's a great tool for extracting non-fiction information. The real heart of the system is conditioning your subconscious mind to make you consciously aware of the information and ideas that satisfy your purpose.

In a way PhotoReading fits nicely with the whole intention-manifestation model. You're basically saying to the universe, here are my questions, and if the answers are to be found in this book, bring them into my conscious awareness.

Without a clear purpose for reading, PhotoReading is unlikely to work well.

Think of PhotoReading like a search engine. If you type in nothing, you get no results. But if you're clear about what you want, the search results appear. If you're fuzzy about what you want, you get fuzzy results. So the more you know why you want to read a book, the better PhotoReading works.

Sir I am a student from computer stream.The books I read involves lot of technical and mathematical content . Is it possible to read technical and mathematical books using this method.

[maddy]

Originally Posted by Vinny

I also completed the photoreading course. I must say wow! The course actually works. I can feel my mind expand and absorb the information after reading and using the activating methods they teach within the course. I have actually used this method for my various reading material. Great Product.

It will be pleasure if you help me.While I photo read I can grasp as many words in the book but I cannot make sense with the words which I grasped and the contents which I go through involves lot of technical stuffs.Thanks a lot for replying.

[thefictionxwelive]

This sounds like something I would like to try, though.. I read more for enjoyment than because I have to.
I would be afraid of being unable to read "normally" again. Steve mentioned in his review about this (and the exact book I was worried about, too - go figure ), so that made me feel a bit better about it.

I will probably invest in this someday, when I have more freedom to commit to it.


-Pan

[michhola]

Hi All!

I am concidering going to a photoreading seminar in Austria. There are only a few questions I have before commiting to the time and money I will have to invest.

I am a Project Manager. We engineer and build steel mills so in my job I have to know details of technical and commercial contracts which include a ton of technical values and commercial guarantess.

I also am currently going to evening school to get a degree as a technical engineer. Amost all my school books have technical sketches and diagrams, maths formulas etc...

Will photoreading embed all this data in my longterm memory and enable me to recall it when needed?

Thanks for any/all replies.

PS: Sorry if my english is a bit scrappy I am from Austria

[Got Ya]

Derren Brown uses a photographic mindset to accomplish a lot of his tricks (and NLP/hypnosis)- How did he start - doing loads of mega memory courses, speed reading courses, photoreading courses (you see him doing it on youTUBE)... the trick is He is not debunking Photoreading - he's debunking the price. CONSISTENCY is the key to success - he's doing it while it's proven that a small majority of people actually commit themselves to anything - WANT TO BE TRULY GREAT - CONSISTENCY IS FILLED WITH PURPOSE. Your giving up so the consistent ones look truly great. They look great because you stopped. Your trying to debunk what they are succeeding at - and using your beliefs against you to show themselves off as having a unique gift - WHEN IN REALITY THEY WORKED THEIR ASSES OFF TO ACHIEVE IT.

[Got Ya]

Photoread the library folks!....... and you'll find your mind open up - your mind will direct itself into fields your were made for, subjects that previously no person had ever linked together before - link and create growth. GROW GROW GROW is the purpose of life - create your own adventure - let the stage hypnotists just entertain you.

[Niki]

Originally Posted by Got Ya

Derren Brown uses a photographic mindset to accomplish a lot of his tricks (and NLP/hypnosis)- How did he start - doing loads of mega memory courses, speed reading courses, photoreading courses (you see him doing it on youTUBE)... the trick is He is not debunking Photoreading - he's debunking the price. CONSISTENCY is the key to success - he's doing it while it's proven that a small majority of people actually commit themselves to anything - WANT TO BE TRULY GREAT - CONSISTENCY IS FILLED WITH PURPOSE. Your giving up so the consistent ones look truly great. They look great because you stopped. Your trying to debunk what they are succeeding at - and using your beliefs against you to show themselves off as having a unique gift - WHEN IN REALITY THEY WORKED THEIR ASSES OFF TO ACHIEVE IT.

You really have to read his(Derren Brown's) book Tricks of The Mind, where he does debunks photoreading. He doesn't believe in it at all.

[michhola]

I don't know, I am really psyched about learning photoreading and I just can't believe that something so many people believe in is a fake...

hmm... lets see it from a "Law of Attraction" point of view... If you think or will it to be fake, it will be fake to you ??

[Cochonette]

PhotoReading would improve its credibility if there weren't a $250-500 threshold.

[Kaybee]

I love to read, but there are tons of books and materials to get through. If this product can help me read more (in my limited amount of time) so I can continue my personal development, then I'll give it a look.


I've been contemplating this product for quite some time. This post gives me an incentive to explore further.

Thanks.

Kim
Self Personal.com - Inspirational Thoughts, Sayings, and Words for Positive Thinking and How to Be Happy

[Izanagi]

I tried it and I thought it worked okay, but it's not something I would use for every book I read. I guess I just like reading the 'old way' too much It taught me some valuable lessons on reading though. Like preparing before reading and thinking about what you want from the book you are about to read.

I now mostly use the reading techniques from the Four Powers for Greatness course instead (rhythmic purusal and skittering).

[billionairekid]

The reason the price is so high is to deter those people who aren't serious about participating in the program. The more something costs, the less likely it is that a dabbler is going to come along and try the product just to try it. You have to be dedicated and persistant for this process to work. It involves techniques that currntly challenge many peoples beliefs to a pretty high degree. I understand how the process works and I plan on taking time over the next few weeks to develop my photoreading skills.

I will report back my results when I find out what they are.

[Cochonette]

The reason the price is so high is to deter those people who aren't serious about participating in the program. The more something costs, the less likely it is that a dabbler is going to come along and try the product just to try it. You have to be dedicated and persistant for this process to work. It involves techniques that currntly challenge many peoples beliefs to a pretty high degree. I understand how the process works and I plan on taking time over the next few weeks to develop my photoreading skills.

Sorry, but I'm not buying that argument. Learning a foreign language also requires a lot of dedication and persistence, and when I first started learning French online you could say I was a dabbler. I tried again a year later, and it took me a whole 11 months after that before I started to get past the beginner beginner level to intermediate beginner. I quit many times. French people made fun of me. Now my French is somewhere between advanced intermediate and beginner advanced. I never spent a dime on learning French. There are so many language dabblers, but if you had told me, "I want to see if you're dedicated first so pay me $250 if you want to learn French," I would never have learned French.

So nice try. It's not as if this guy has to put in more effort if you turn out to be just a dabbler.

Anyway, I got a copy of a few of the audio files from PhotoReading. I listened to the first two. I think the reason he keeps telling you "Re-Lax, Re-Lax, Re-Lax" is so you don't get angry at him for sounding like a scam artist.

Oh, btw, one time I had the opportunity to get my school to order some Pimsleur CDs to beginner's Romanian for $100. They promised to teach me in just weeks! The only thing they helped me with was pronunciation and a little bit of formal speech. I did most of my learning for free online with people who actually cared about whether I learned the language or not.

[Izanagi]

Originally Posted by Cochonette

Oh, btw, one time I had the opportunity to get my school to order some Pimsleur CDs to beginner's Romanian for $100. They promised to teach me in just weeks! The only thing they helped me with was pronunciation and a little bit of formal speech. I did most of my learning for free online with people who actually cared about whether I learned the language or not.

Pimsleur is one of the worst things you can spend your money on when it comes to language learning. Good thing you got away with paying only 100 bucks. I paid $345 x 3 for Pimsleur Chinese 1, 2, and 3. I learned a lot more in two weeks of college courses in Chinese than I did in three months using Pimsleur. Compared to Pimsleur, Photoreading actually gives you something worthwhile

[PerDev]

This looks like similar to how i do the Google Search

[Accumulator of abundance]

Originally Posted by jkmuller

From what I've seen, I'm extremely skeptical about the whole PhotoReading process. I should mention I have not bought the course and have only seen the book. I would, however, love to have my opinion changed. If it were real, which it seems too good to be I admit, it would be worth far more than its cost to any serious reader. I have many more books than time to read them; I'm sure that is true with many of you as well. So, if you really believe in this method, please explain it to me! Do you really get results or is it a watered down version of normal reading with a bunch of "new age" stuff thrown in?

I have tried, just the book, and certainly it amazed me,the proccess is sooo easy and the benefits are impressive, give it a try, just a try for 4 weeks with many books as you can, to fully realize your new capacity, and then to see the difference, spend 4 weeks without using photoreading, by reading as usual.

You will notice the amazing difference.

[Cochonette]

Originally Posted by Izanagi

Pimsleur is one of the worst things you can spend your money on when it comes to language learning. Good thing you got away with paying only 100 bucks. I paid $345 x 3 for Pimsleur Chinese 1, 2, and 3. I learned a lot more in two weeks of college courses in Chinese than I did in three months using Pimsleur. Compared to Pimsleur, Photoreading actually gives you something worthwhile

I didn't pay anything. My school paid for it. The best thing about Pimsleur is the stylish cover.

Okay, listening to some of the PhotoReading audio, I'd say it's definitely useful. But I still wouldn't pay $250 for it. If my library would order a copy for me, that would be great... but I think they don't purchase personal development items.

[entertainers]

Hey!
I'M currently going through a photo reading course. It's really helpful. Will keep you guys updated about the progress.

[shomapandit]

Hi,I'm new to the forum.I stumbled on this site after looking for photoreading system and boy,am I glad!I feel this place has a very positive vibe to it...
Is the stevepavlina discount still active and how can i get it?
Thanks in advance,
Shoma

[Ikkyo]

I'm onto CD4. I understand how it works because I have an understanding of the subconscious mind. The price is a little steep but if you can get past the mental blocks and beliefs it just might be worth it.

I'll post my progress.

[inspiredmind]

I came across the discount in a google search, but it seems expired. Anyone know if this can be extended or still active to buy??? I would like to give this Photoreading a try but can't afford the normal asking price. If Steve is able to comment will be much appreciated.

[Elrond]

Originally Posted by Cochonette

PhotoReading would improve its credibility if there weren't a $250-500 threshold.

Amazon.com: Photoreading, 3rd Edition (9780925480538): Paul R. Scheele: Books: Reviews, Prices & more

[Ikkyo]

Originally Posted by Elrond

Amazon.com: Photoreading, 3rd Edition (9780925480538): Paul R. Scheele: Books: Reviews, Prices & more

Thats the book, not the audio course but maybe you knew that?

[Joell]

Here is something i stumbled upon, don't know if it has already been posted
hope it helps clarify some things for believers, skeptics interested in photoreading

http://csep.psyc.memphis.edu/pdf/photoreadingpaper.pdf

[Mr. Punch]

I tried the deluxe edition of the course back in the days when Pavlina had a discount deal with Learning Strategies and although I found it very well presented, I did not gain any benifit from it. I actually became quite frustrated. The idea of Photoreading is fascinating but I guess it's just an idea.