My figure out the feelings inside my brain/body thread

[Sunnybayes]

Core concepts
-Its takes cooperation of both halves so you are not a headless chicken
-My "ON" tank fills up when I relax and meditate and my eyes feel like they are going back and forth.
-The "ON" tank empties as you plow through new behaviors and material
-The right thinks in images and feelings, is spacial, recognizes faces better, likes to dance, does not recognize time and is always "in the now"
-The left brain knows how to talk and so says "I don't know what the hell is wrong with me" and gets stuck in babel mental patterns when its the right brain that is sad and board.
-Maybe there are two hierarchies, with the tip at each eyeball
-Maybe the "third eye" is the brain bridge corpus collopsum. It comes online when you "meditate", and when both sides of the brain are stimulated and communicate well
-Maybe the communication of the brain bridge happens when you feel your eyes going back and forth
-You only have to go through the pain of transitions only if you are a headless chicken.

Here are the best ways I've found to stimulate my right brain:
-Go out clubbing = music + pretty people + socializing
-If I can't go out then I look at people and pretty places with facebook
-Just go to a busy mall, wondering around do some people watching, don't focus on products, don't let yourself focus on items, keep your vision and senses broad, that is what you right mind is good for. Pay attention to the feelings inside your head. Focus your attention to the top of your heirarchy. Your right brain thinks in feelings.

TV, is not so good because the images jump around too much and you only get to see parts of the people's bodies and that your left mind dominates because it focuses too much on the story line. Though on PBS, the musical orchestra did an awesome job. It lets your left mind zone out while your right mind becomes totally engaged in the music and emotion, and the people have natural expressions and personalities, not those of contrived actors.

Just to know the feeling of your right brain lightening up... when you are feeling depressed because you know you've been too isolated, just go on face book and look at a photo. IF you have digital photos that take up your whole screen, its even better. Try it. Get out your stop watch, look at your beautiful friends for 30 minutes (your mind has to be totally be engaged on their faces, and has to take up your concious mind, don't be distracted... its what comes across your concious mind that counts), then for exactly 30 minutes notice that its quite a bit easier to get things done. And then when the time is up, notice how all of the sudden things just start to get harder to do and that you'll want to zone out and watch TV or something really passive.

Therefore in one huge sweeping blow, meditation takes care of tonnes of disorders and makes you a leader and not a headless chicken. You've got to do it more often than you'd think.

Oh yea... I should also mention this. There is also something like an "OFF" tank. Well its just the "ON" tank but opposite of course, but that I can actually feel the "OFF" tank fill up in my head when I start to learn new information in things like text books or anything new. When the "OFF" tank is full (I call it "OFF" because it closes off the communication of the brige brain/corpus collopsum), I just can't cram in any more concepts or information into my head, and I can feel that my eyes just want to move back and forth faster, and I can really feel myself thinking hard when it is full. That's when I'd go for a walk and stop dumping in more information so that I can empty my "off" tank, and fill my on tank..., but this walking around is pointless if I don't see any people to stimulate my right brain, so it would be just better to just close my eyes and sleep. I'll have to clarify this last paragraph in another post. I'll also throw in some more leadership stuff. And also this acticle from John's Place about how to memorize stuff fast kinda backs this up because it mentions doing a quick nap after learning hard.

How to Memorize Anything

After a study session, take a quick nap. New memories are very vulnerable, but studies have shown that sleep helps your new memories stick. After your nap, repeat the memory technique once more for maximum retention.

I eventually became so good at this technique that I could complete all my studying for any information heavy mid-term or final exam in less than 6 hours. Yes, I realize this sounds like a lot of time, but it’s not much time at all – because this technique works from a cold start, even if you haven’t cracked the book all semester.

And I can back this up from when I had to start writing papers because I noticed that if I sleep or meditated after thinking hard, then stuff just started to make sense. And this is also probably why everyone says "get up early" because they notice how easy it is to do stuff right when they get up, its because the two sides are synched up and are therefore not headless chickens for a good couple of hours, and since they worked hard to get up early, they'd not waste their brain sync on mindless TV. And since being synced up means that you can be creative, and that creativity basically solves everything else... well hopefully you got the point from my spewing writing.

Hey LifeFirst you said:

Well back in High School I don't know why but I could grasp concepts extremely quick (It doesn't matter what the subject was, calculus or literature or whatever). And I didn't have to work hard at all, or really read much of anything to know what I'm doing. But now, it seems that the most simple concepts require a lot of time for me to understand. I found out that after all these years I have become dumber and dumber, and just more confused. This is the type of stuff that I could understand easily a couple of years ago....I would do the problems, go over the examples and I would get it. It's probably other areas of my Life that's affecting my study...who knows...but I don't know what the problem is.

Because in highschool you are around people and in class all day long and you probably did activities with people after school. All to keep both sides of the brain happily stimulated. But then in University, it becomes easier to isolate yourself especially when the work becomes sooo hard. So keep you "ON" tank full so that your brains can make the associations of the concepts, and do your studying in a place where there are other people so that you can look up and stimulate your right brain on demand. Hope this helps.

And some more things, think on paper. After you've refilled the "ON" tank, write all the words out that you don't understand. Break them up into smaller pieces. That way even if you don't have the definitions memorized, you can still manipulate the words. Ask yourself tonnes of questions to help break down the unknowns.

Here's another link about how meditation changes your brain:
Meditation builds up the brain - being-human - 15 November 2005 - New Scientist

Meditation - Better Health Channel.
Chronic stress or burnout can occur when the sympathetic nervous system dominates for too long. During an alpha wave state, the parasympathetic half of the autonomic nervous system comes to the fore. This results in lowered blood pressure and heart rate, a reduction in stress hormones, and slowed metabolism. If meditation is practised regularly, these beneficial changes become relatively permanent.

[Sunnybayes]

I tell you guys what... I'm still not believing its true... but I just tried it again.

I closed my eye, rested for 30 minutes, and then slowly I could feel it getting harder and harder to concentrate.

When you close your eyes, notice how it just kinda fills up your forehead initially, and all through out the 30 minutes. Then wake up and concentrate on doing a task. Start your stop watch, and feel in your body how that "filled up" feeling just sinks from your eyes as time goes by, and I promise you... it feels like it just slowly sinks down to my gut, and then all of the sudden, my default behaviors kick in, and you find some reason that you just "want" to quit and do something else.

Its like it controls what you conciously "want" to do.

I'll have to try this for 60 minutes next to see if I can feel it sink down for 60 minutes, and then I'll try 90 and 120 ect.... And I wonder how well this follows for longer periods of time... I thought that it could even build up for days, like when I was with my friends for 2 weeks straight... but I might have still confused the effect with other things and it seems like there would be a max point.

There's an idea about chakras how you body is segmented like a worm, and that each chakra takes turns controlling your body, some people are controlled by their stomachs, some by their groins ... maybe this has to do with how our body decides which chakra is going to be in control... I don't know.

Here's another interesting link about how to be creative
Project Renaissance, "Notes Toward the Theory and Practice of Creativity"

[Sunnybayes]

Here's how exercise fits into all of this... just randomly found some things

The Effect of Repeated Physical Exercise on Hippocampus and Brain Cortex in Stressed Rats -- FILIPOVIC et al. 1096 (1): 207 -- Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences
...
Changes in plasma levels of adenocorticotropic hormone and corticosterone were also studied. A significant decrease in cytosol GR and Hsp70 was observed after acute stress. Opposite to that, chronic stress led to negligible changes in both cytosol GR and Hsp70 levels. Isolation, as chronic psychosocial stressor, caused reduced responsiveness to novel acute stressors, judged by the cytosol GR and Hsp70 levels.

This was not observed if chronic isolation was combined with 15 min daily swimming prior to acute exposure to immobilization. The data suggest that repeated physical exercise may, at least in some cases, diminish
detrimental effects of chronic social isolation on limbic-hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenocortical axis, as judged by the levels of GR and Hsp70 in the Wistar rat brain.

So... I have no clue what all those huge words mean... we're not rats but it looks like it says that if you exercise that doing exercise reduces the effect of being socially isolated.... and you saw how I keep on going on about how horrible it is to be socially isolated.

And it says

detrimental effects of chronic social isolation

so social isolation must be bad.

I back this up with my experience again... well I always seem to feel better after I exercise. Yea I could write a story about how I felt bad at first blablabla... and then I walked... blablabla...

and I should take back when I wrote

That's when I'd go for a walk and stop dumping in more information so that I can empty my "off" tank, and fill my on tank..., but this walking around is pointless if I don't see any people to stimulate my right brain, so it would be just better to just close my eyes and sleep.

So it was quite useful walking around, just not as good as walking around with friends..., and I had in my mind that it was strictly being with people so that influenced my judgment, and that's what I get for writing things down and not retesting that well.

I noticed that I've been feeling like jello... the meditation stuff definably does help in being able to take action... but I felt still feel kinda jello-ish and not as happy as I felt back after traveling... but now I know why... its because I was around people so much, and I was always walking around, and all the new stimulus, and the prettier people there..., but today was better because I conciously remembered the effects of just walking around for an hour, and I do definably feel more sharp. I have a computer programming internship so I've defiantly been more seditary, I'll just have to park my car like 15 minutes away from work, and then I could walk the rest of the way, then I'd have a convenient way to get 30 minutes of exercise in everyday. And I'll start doing my 1 handed push ups again.

And therefore I've just rediscovered what everyone's been saying for the last 2 billion years... I'm brilliant... exercise is amazing. Wow... what's even more amazing is the stuff that you'd ignore and not believe unless you figure it out for yourself (well that's me at least). Ha. Talk about knowing a formula that is so simple, and not believing it cause its too simple. Well have fun guys with figure out all this stuff yourself, cause you're probably like me and wont believe anything unless you learn it the hard way. oh well.

I wonder how many more billions of dollars we're going to spend on antidepressant drug research before we get the clue that we should just get off our asses... well if people are like me... probably billions more... wow... and you see all these diseases... and each disease has a billion dollar drug research behind it... holy crap...

Well it all makes sense if you consider that 99% (or something like that) of human history has been spent in the outdoors in nature... I guess we forget that we are animals....

I could list tonnes more evidence of examples... and stuff like that... well just google "effects of exercise"

"Depression and anxiety: Exercise eases symptoms - MayoClinic.com
Some evidence suggests that exercise positively affects the levels of certain mood-enhancing neurotransmitters in the brain."

"Exercise has a number of effects that benefit the heart and circulation, ... The effects of exercise on stroke are less established than on heart disease, ..."

"Psychological Effects of Exercise
The psychological benefits of aerobic exercise are numberous: mood enhancing, reduced anxiety and depression and also stress reduction."

"ScienceDaily: Exercise Reverses Unhealthy Effects Of Inactivity
Many of the detrimental effects of physical inactivity can be reversed, and in some cases improved, by a similar period of moderate exercise."

"Exercise is medicine: the anti-inflammatory effects of high ...
Exercise is medicine: the anti-inflammatory effects of high intensity exercise from Townsend"

"Stopping Exercise Has Adverse Psychological Effects - Journal ...
According to research findings and widespread clinical observations, depressive symptoms are common after the cessation of regular aerobic exercise and are..."

IMMEDIATE EFFECTS OF EXERCISE
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IMMEDIATE EFFECTS OF EXERCISE. When you exercise or take part in a strenuous sport you will notice several changes taking place in your body: ...

"Exercise shows beneficial effects in patients with Parkinson's disease
A new study from researchers at the Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern"

"Effects of aerobic and resistive exercise on symptoms, immune ...
Conclusions: This study will provide empirical data about the effects of exercise on the above variables in a racially diverse group of HIV+ men and women. ..."

"Conclusions: This study will provide empirical data about the effects of exercise on the above variables in a racially diverse group of HIV+ men and women. Early results on VO2MAX, time on treadmill, and POMS subscales (particularly depression, anxiety, vigor) are promising."

Just look at this page:
Effects of exercise on breast cancer patients and survivors: a systematic review and meta-analysis
"Physical exercise has been identified as a potential intervention to improve quality of life in women with breast cancer. We sought to summarize the available evidence concerning the effects of exercise on breast cancer patients and survivors."

Physical exercise has consistently been identified as a central element of rehabilitation for many chronic diseases5–8 and has been successful in improving quality of life and reducing all-cause mortality.9 Recent observational evidence suggests that moderate levels of physical activity may even reduce the risk of death from breast cancer,10 and therefore exercise may prove to be a valuable intervention to improve not only quality of life but overall survival.

Exercise Suppresses Appetite

BBC ImageBBC Health -- Exercising after meals can help promote weight loss by boosting hormones that suppress appetite, say UK scientists. Thanks to these hormones, active people feel less hungry immediately after exercise, and this carries through to their next meal, experiments suggest.

Its like they think that breast cancer paintents are no longer human... and they've got 40 references to back it up. Its like "huh guys... do you think that exercise might make them feel better??? I don't know... maybe this will be the exception where doing some exercise might make them want to kill themselves"

I wonder how much money was wasted there...

ah... its like we have to rigorously derive all of algebra again every time you want to check that 2+2=4. And then its like... hmmm do you think that 3+3=6? I don't know... Wow. Its ridiculous. Ok. So I'll have to type up an essay on the absolute absurdities of current American culture. I've shown that I'm as stupid as all the rest of us, and man... we're nuts.

[Mark Lapierre]

I think you missed the point of those sorts of studies. It's not to prove that exercise is good for us, but to provide quantifiable evidence of that benefit. And more so, to help determine *exactly* what kind of exercise is *most* beneficial in which *specific* cases.

Is vigourous exercise better than moderate exercise, or is light exercise enough? Is there anything which counters the effect of exercise? Could certain ailments be made *worse* by exercise, counter to intuition?

Remember, the medical world used to be convinced that bleeding patients was a good thing. The physicians saw what they thought was 2+2 = 4, but didn't realise it was actually 2+(ab*cd)+2-x^2 = 4.

[Sunnybayes]

Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre

I think you missed the point of those sorts of studies. It's not to prove that exercise is good for us, but to provide quantifiable evidence of that benefit. And more so, to help determine *exactly* what kind of exercise is *most* beneficial in which *specific* cases.

Is vigourous exercise better than moderate exercise, or is light exercise enough? Is there anything which counters the effect of exercise? Could certain ailments be made *worse* by exercise, counter to intuition?

Remember, the medical world used to be convinced that bleeding patients was a good thing. The physicians saw what they thought was 2+2 = 4, but didn't realise it was actually 2+(ab*cd)+2-x^2 = 4.

Ok. I was not clear about that last statement. I agree... I got lazy again... I need to sleep. I'll type up what I mean later.

But I'm curious, when I don't get any comments does that mean that everything seems coherent and believable, or is it that it all seems soooo wrong that there's no bother with arguing with it, or is it that its too painful to read through, or a combination of all of those?

[Mark Lapierre]

Originally Posted by Sunnybayes

But I'm curious, when I don't get any comments does that mean that everything seems coherent and believable, or is it that it all seems soooo wrong that there's no bother with arguing with it, or is it that its too painful to read through, or a combination of all of those?

Good question. I'd like the know the same about my blog

But in your case, in my opinion its a) painful to read because there's a lot of information but very little structure, and b) it seems to be largely a statement your opinion rather than an invitation for discussion. And a) applies at the level of the individual post as well as the thread as a whole.

Incidentally I'm probably only aware of those issues because they apply to my blog too (hence asking questions at the end of my last post. It hasn't helped )

I suspect that in both our cases most people aren't interested enough in what we're rambling on about to tell us they don't like the way we ramble

[Sunnybayes]

Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre

Good question. I'd like the know the same about my blog

But in your case, in my opinion its a) painful to read because there's a lot of information but very little structure, and b) it seems to be largely a statement your opinion rather than an invitation for discussion. And a) applies at the level of the individual post as well as the thread as a whole.

Incidentally I'm probably only aware of those issues because they apply to my blog too (hence asking questions at the end of my last post. It hasn't helped )

I suspect that in both our cases most people aren't interested enough in what we're rambling on about to tell us they don't like the way we ramble

Lol. That's true.

Or it makes sense and there is nothing to argue about.

Or there sooo many things to argue about that they just forget which points that the want to argue about.

Or maybe, lol, the writing is soo smooth that there is no "error detection" and thus no need to argue, and nothing is brought to attention.

But yea, for alot of those post I'd spend like a couple of hours typing them up.... if it took me a couple of month of thinking to think up those post then its hard to imagine that one could understand it all in just a few hours reading.

They have to spend a good amount of time thinking before they could even ask a few intelligent questions.

But its kinda like one big fuzzy thought splat out over a whole page instead of in a sentence... so its really hard to tear out tiny pieces to ask questions about.

[Sunnybayes]

I am going to ask myself a question for when my creative mood hits me again.

I am a student that has a summer internship working from 9 to 5. I come home tiered. It feels really hard to take action. What is the best thing that I can do to plan on making my escape so that I do not have to put up with this situation in the future? What are some steps that I can take? What would be the most effective way to do this? How can I escape the system?

The reason that I want to do this is so that I have as much time as possible that I can be creative to the purposes that I want to pursue. Absolutely huge purposes... change the world... ect.ect... While I was in HK I absolutely loved being able to think about one thing for hours on end without restriction.

If I did happen to figure out how to make a uniquely "intelligent" machine, then I would not want the company to claim it.

My internship is great. Its with an awesome company. Though I don't know if I can trust the leaders of the company. Not that they are evil or anything. But they might not know the best route.

7/22/04
reading "4 hour work week"

When I come home, during the weekdays, since I am living single, I will not stop moving. This is for the physical effect of avoiding depression. When I need to think about something, I will just print it off, take a walk with it outside.

The thoughts that I have while walking are not wasted because my subconcious still has the connections/knowlege/associations/invariant representations still in my mind, and so that I just have to remind myself latter of the knowlege that I have generated in myself by looking a reminders like this thread and my journal.

Just google "Social Isolation". The first result is how the people in the US are getting more socially isolated, and the second result says how "Social Isolation kills".

When I need to think about things for longer periods of time, I will go to a public place that has an internet, so to avoid social isolation. I've found that there is no resistance when I am around other people.

Here is a stunning article that proves that you have to be around people and if you are not, then it gets to be stressful.

Nature Neuroscience 9, 526 - 533 (2006) Published online: 12 March 2006; doi:10.1038/nn1668
Social isolation delays the positive effects of running on adult neurogenesis
Alexis M Stranahan, David Khalil & Elizabeth Gould
Department of Psychology, Princeton University, Princeton NJ 08544.Correspondence should be addressed to Elizabeth Gould goulde at princeton dot edu
Social isolation can exacerbate the negative consequences of stress and increase the risk of developing psychopathology. However, the influence of living alone on experiences generally considered to be beneficial to the brain, such as physical exercise, remains unknown. We report here that individual housing precludes the positive influence of short-term running on adult neurogenesis in the hippocampus of rats and, in the presence of additional stress, suppresses the generation of new neurons. Individual housing also influenced corticosterone levels—runners in both housing conditions had elevated corticosterone during the active phase, but individually housed runners had higher levels of this hormone in response to stress. Moreover, lowering corticosterone levels converted the influence of short-term running on neurogenesis in individually housed rats from negative to positive. These results suggest that, in the absence of social interaction, a normally beneficial experience can exert a potentially deleterious influence on the brain.

Here's my rule:
If my social tank is empty,[like when I come home directly from work (I work with people but it seems that my social tank is used up immediatly because I'm always thinking intently, and my conciousness is not focused very well on the people)] then I don't stop moving if I am indoors and I walk outside and think about things.
If I've been around people for like 9 hours, then the next day, (say its the weekend), I can be in isolation safely thinking/being creative about things for 9 hours. After that, it feels like I'm taking a dip into hell.

Even if my "social tank" is full/not empty (I think, I sill need to test this some more) if I am learning really hard and dense and new concepts, then I have to close my eyes and let my left mind go silent and let my right brain think, and do meditation, like I said in my "How to not be a headless chicken" article, so that the new information is somehow(not sure of how it does this) integrated into my mind, and then it is ready to accept new information.

Also, another thing that I need to think about. It seemed to mention that exercising reduced the effects of social isolation. It said "diminish the effects" but I don't think that it would reduce it all the way. Therefore I need to test this out.

I was just out walking for about an hour and I can feel the isolation starting to kick in. Yesterday I was at a social gathering (BBQ) from 4:00 PM to 10:00 PM. I don't remember the exact times. Today I woke up around 10:00 am and its now 5:00PM and I am starting to feel the familiar feeling of isolation. I'm going to try and go for a walk for about an hour and then observe the feeling inside of me when I return. It might be the case that it just delays the sinking feeling, by getting exercise, but that it does not actually add anything to my "social tank".

7/24/07
It seems to be the case that just walking around keeps me from being depressed. And its basically additive.

Its a combination of several factors:
Exercise, left/right brain synchronization, a huge part of our brains (30% I've read) are used for visual processing.

It would make sense to me that being around people is so effective because a huge part of our brains are used in reading each other's social cues. You've got visual aspect, and its quite a challenging thing to try and predict each other's motivations and things like that.

But If it is very inconvenient for me to be around people, then just getting out and walking (seeing the visual world moving [instead of still pictures]) is effective enough to stimulate my brain. I is also a form of meditation because I can just gaze off into nowhere and just let my mind wander. Which is quite effective itself.

[Sunnybayes]

Ahh... I miss my little thread..., and my steaming rambling... (if it weren't for this little thread, my writing skills would be even worse)

well just in the middle of working on 2 machine projects and 1 hw and 1 physics lab report all due tomorrow .... (taking full advantage of having fun and not being a headless chicken, though all of that is utterly pointless?? probably..., though quite difficult to escape those right now. I mean I could drop out of school, but I don't know what I'd do from there. Maybe I'll just try and find out, or maybe not. I'll just have to see what my free will says )

but I though I'd translate some of Steve's words again... (hopefully this doesn't make people go insane, as talking about this type of stuff usually does (at least in me for a day or two... then its all cool....))

Anyway. Here goes....
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2007/09/accuracy/

Subjective vs. objective accuracy

When I view reality through the objective lens, my standard of accuracy is how well I can predict what’s going to happen.

When I view reality through the subjective lens, my standard of accuracy is how well I can create what’s going to happen.

When I view reality through both lenses simultaneously, my standard of accuracy is an ongoing dance of prediction and creation. This is the place where logic meets intuition and where science meets art.

In any meaningful human endeavor, such as building a business, governing a country, or writing a song, prediction and creation are inseparable. To achieve peak accuracy and effectiveness requires that both channels are in sync. Intelligent prediction fuels creative decisions because you rely on accurate observations to decide what to create next. And creative output enhances predictive ability, since you’re intentionally setting new causes in motion, thereby actively contributing to the resulting effects.

Prediction (objective lens): flowing down the hierarchy, using the IRs that are already there. These are well defined and model reality very well. Causes movement. [yea... this doesn't make sense to anyone but me...]

Creation (subjective reality): creating new IRs, that don't exists yet. New IRs let you do new things, take new actions, in the process of being refined, on its way to modeling reality well, but not quite there yet.

Intelligent prediction fuels creative decisions because you rely on accurate observations to decide what to create next.

Intelligent prediction: Using IRs that are already there, well defined.

Decide what to create next: Using those lower order IRs to create higher order IRs.

This is the place where logic meets intuition and where science meets art.

logic: Your brain tossing around the roots of discrete and consistent IRs.

intuition: fuzzier IRs that are in the process of being made more well defined, so it turns that fuzzy vision of that painting into a higher resolution image into reality.

I also define intuition as thinking with my feelings. When I feel a certain area of my mind, it lets me reprogram that area (sends my consciousness/attention there, so that I can open up that piece of mind to being more creative.)

Oh. here's a cool thing I might expand on later. If this were to really make sense, each one of these sentences would probably need a page or two or explanation...

Normal mode/Objective mode: staring watching a dot move across the screen. Consciousness is focused highly on the dot. This is your objective/predictive mode. Your mind is not open to new things. Your conscious is focused on the outside mode, you are not aware of yourself, but of your environment.

Subjective/Creative mode: seeing a scary monster. Its scary because its unknown. Missing IRs. Totally unexpected/un-predicted. Your brain opens up, your body freezes so that your focus/attention is forced there so that your brain can fill in the missing IRs. Your eyes widen... inside your body, it feels like your consciousness expands, like a balloon is inflating inside of you. I've learned to do this manually, to expand my consciousness when I want to be creative. (though its more of a passive thing) This keeps the IR path ways open, instead of being restrictive so that the subconscious is not restricted, kinda like PhotoFocus. My focus/attention is center inside myself, inside the feeling of my head/mind/whatever you want to call it. From PhotoReading, this is the tangerine on the back of your head trick. Perhaps that tangerine is at the location of the peak of the hierarchy/source "charkra"/"truth"..., while in objective lens mode your attention is at the bottom of the hierarchy, corresponding to the external reality... the IRs are so well defined that the outside stimulus can be handled automatically by them so that the stimulus does not need to flow to the top so you don't need to be in high conscious/creative mode to handle it, you can be relatively unconscious to be in automatic objective lens mode (like driving your car on the highway at night).

This creative/subjective mode lets you be open to new IRs = Belief systems, because your consciousness lets you open your subconscious mind at the peak of your hierarchy, so if you want to "believe in subjective reality" you have to well, do it. So this is why its hard for people stuck in their old habits in their objective lense to make much sense of Steve's subjective reality, because, well their low concious/automatic and efficient objective lense keeps them from it.


ok... back to my machine projects...

[Sunnybayes]

Here's a reminder for me to expand on an idea I'm working on.

Its about more motivation stuff.

The thing is, I hate doing my physics lab report. If it were my own experiment, then I wouldn't mind doing the process, because it would be creative experience, and therefore I would have adrenaline to drive me as my brain makes new neural connections, so it would be a pleasure to do it.

But its not a creative process, because I've got to follow it step by step. And its just mindless. And its taken me about 5 times longer than it should have taken me. I get no adrenaline to drive me from learning new knowlege.

The trick of linking up my goal heirarcy with reasons keeps me focused on it with intellectual motivation, but its just a really really slow process. And there's really not a strong motivation. Its a "Milikan Oil Drop" experiment. It is pointless, well because, this experiment has been done probably 1000 times before. So there's nothing new. We already know what the freakin charge of an electron is. And I already know how to think well. I already know everything that there is to know from this lab. I gain nothing. Pure nothing. I know all the math and theory already.

Even the tone of the lab instrutions are "blablablabla... just do this because you have too.. blablablablabla...., and we're not saying why this even matters at all (so that maybe they'd create the motivation for me) but just do it because we say so...", with the tone of a professor who hate his own job.

But its just that I have to do it anyway. I can't drop the class because its required for me to graduate.

I've also tried outlining, like with microtasks, and a little trick of mine (maybe I'd call it nanotask) of write what I'm about to do, much like a stack of a computer, so that I basically plan as I go. I've tried time boxing. But its still slow. The constant transitions make me have a negative mood. I think that those are just slowing me down. I've not isolated myself. My friends are around. There are tones of cute women around here. I've been running 30 minutes everyday (which makes me feel absolutly great). I've been eating healty too. I've been get 7.5+ hours too, and have been taking naps after particularly intense concentration. All hydrated up. Been keeping the trance/dance music going too. Been keeping both the left and right side of my brain stimulated.

I've been doing everything... but its still slow. Too much fragmented/unrelated, unending pointless crap. Trying all I can to give the lab report a point. But there are just soooooo many sub tasks that are pointless that you can't really find a inspiring purpose for each little subtask.

So there only a few things left that I could try:

Absolute hate.

The hate let me blast through it well. It felt good to hate it. I just really in an angry mood and just said out loud " I really f... hate this". The emotion of hate let me get through the lab report just fine. Gave me the rage to continue. At some points, I even started to enjoy hating it. And so then it wasn't so bad to plow through it, or it was still bad, but the hate let me get it over faster than other wize.

(though not too much, I watch myself to maintain a good level of hate, cause too much hate would lead to despair... you kinda have to balance out the hate. and also, as soon as I stop working on the friggin lab, I jump into my big smile happy state again...)


Maybe the pain of constant transitions from one pointless subtask to another caused the hate, but I was in a mode of just being passive, and when I did not feel hate, I was not able to go quickly, so the task just dragged on forever. So its more productive for me to do hate.

Though I know that if I always rely on this method, it will just wear me down... and the rage will wear off, and I'd probably be in a really bad state, and complelty reverse all the progress that I've been making internally, and that it totally goes against my belief that the point of life is to exists and to enjoy it. And it will also make me stupid, because the stress would kill my hippocampus in my brain after a few weeks of this hateful motivation, and that would lead to a horrible downward spiral. And I'd probably turn into Hitler or something. No fun.

But then I was inspired by a small little paragraph from JohnPlaceOnline (I could probably find stuff from Steve's articles... but... just happened to stumble on his article here:

10 Ways to Overcome a Motivational Roadblock

1. Process Orientation: Instead of focusing on your goals, try extracting joy from each individual task along the way. In other words, focus on the process instead of the product. You may find that many of your tasks are enjoyable (or can be made that way) if you stop worrying about their overall purpose.

2. Set a Goal: Conversely, it’s also important to have goals so that you know where you’re heading. This tip may seem to be in conflict with the previous one, but it’s not. Goals (like losing weight, graduating college, etc.) are important in the sense that they help lay out what tasks we should pursue.

I was like huh. " You may find that many of your tasks are enjoyable (or can be made that way) if you stop worrying about their overall purpose. Try extracting joy from each individual task along the way"

So just gave it a try, maybe even just to make fun of it. Not worry about the purpose of doing the purposeless/pointless subtasks of the dry lab report.

And then what I did was to extract and focus on the physical movement of moving the mouse around. Like "wow... ooohh yeaa... moving the mouse to click on the icon... yes.... oh yea...." in a totally exagertated way. I got fun out of just making it rediculous. like a the amazement a little kid might have first learning how to play with a computer, and moving the mouse around.

Another example it says :
"Give the title of the laboratry exercise, the date you did the exercise, and your partner's name. Identify the page numbers of your laborartory notebook for the laboratory exercise" (and then there are 8 other more tedious little points about it). So then I was like "oh yea.. giving the title to the report... wow... look at the little mouse move... weeeeee!!!! ...wow... soooo amazing!!!" like I was making fun of the stupid thing.

I kind of over did this for awhile, making fun of each little pointless subtask... so then I had to go in the opposite direction from fun to pure hate. And then when I started to hate it, I made fun of it again. Push and pull. (I still have to test this out some more.)

So hopefully this method wont wear out, and wont lose the novelty. I'll have to see if I can always get through pointless things like this in the next couple of weeks. Any time something is pointless that I have to do, I'll just make fun of it (in both senses, making fun of it that it is just so utterly stupid, and having fun with making fun of it).

Some more points I want to include later after I experiment with this more:
-emotions let you do stuff
-link this idea to the heirarchy, and how your brain chooses to do things
-link in what fun vs hate does

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what is so good about being vegan?

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Yeah, but "sunnybayes", about your pointless physics lab...
I would take the tiime to appreciate it because it's showing you how to make a hypothesis and turn it into an experiment!

Do you know how difficult that is?
Let's see, einstien made hypothese about relativity, and then people had to come along and think of experiments to verify it's truth. It shows a deeper understanding of the subject if you can think of ways to verify it experimentally.

So take your silly experiment, and see if you can think of an experiment that will verify it. You should be using these labs as models/ guides that show you how to go from theory to reality. It's not pointless. Write your own experiments and see how well you do.


Go to your teacher, " I don't want to do this lab, let me make up my own experiment to test this hypothesis/theory." And the very next day you'll be hired by Nasa.