My figure out the feelings inside my brain/body thread

[Sunnybayes]

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I read steve pavlina's timeboxing article and it makes so much sense.So i devoted yesterday 1 hr to meditation,2 hrs to reading.Although the reading part was a bit difficult i felt real good afterwards

So now everything is getting clear in my head.The reason we never start is because we have a end goal in mind which stresses us out or because we have too high expectations.I can't believe how stressfree this technique is.

Just decide whatever u want to do.How much u want to do.And decide the activity based on your liking first.Exercising may be important,but if it is not important to you do not include it right away.Just small things,not something big.Because little changes are enough.I went through the task yesterday casually because i had no goal in mind,just doodling around,sometimes day dreaming and relaxing and just passed the 2 hrs enjoying.I had nothing specific to do so i did whatever felt right at that moment.It was spontaneous.I felt good afterwards.

And this can be used for any new activity that you have been planning,perhaps learning a foreign language or biking,just make up a speciific time and enjoy.you will not feel any tension because there is now no goal.Just pure enjoyment of 1 hr.And this is right too because you automatically know how much is right for you.So whatever you decide,it must be coming from the subconscious

Just wanted to put this here so that I remember that I wanted to figure out and explain the "physics" of this technique hashed into my model... in about 3 days or so...

specifically this part "The reason we never start is because we have a end goal in mind which stresses us out or because we have too high expectations.I can't believe how stressfree this technique is." This will open a can of worms about trying to explain what procrastination really is..

[Sunnybayes]

Interesting thing that I noticed. I have the habit of that when I am feeling bad that I think in high conciousness. That is my mind tries to make everything consistent by manipulating everything at the top of my hierarchy.

Though I don't know when to stop [I was not concious of thinking about this before] so that it feels like I am grinding against nothing up there, because I have cleared out all the data, but still feel like ************ just because I am tiered. Or that I am not focusing my conciousness in the right place because all the fragments are lower down in the hierarchy.

I also noticed that when I am not feeling well and I meditate to become happy as possible, that it totally clears out the upper level mental patterns that kept me focused on the task that I wanted to do so that I end up being super happy the rest of the day, happiest guy in the world,

(even though I'm all alone just listening to music, I'll just be laughing about anything at all),

but that I am so happy, but that I don't have any subconscious patterns that keep me to working. And so that if I have not written down any reminders written down on my life outline, I'll totally just forget the mental pattern that I was running. And that since I don't fear failure normally (maybe that not why I'm not as happy as usually because I experimented with installing the fear of not getting my paper done (like I'd be shot and tortured if I didn't (and that conciously I don't actually belief this, I just laugh it off, but my subconscious does so that I have a mental pattern to default to to keep me coming back wanting to write my paper(that is until the fear makes me unhappy enough that I come back and become happy so that I feel like coming back and writing to this forum)))) then the majority of my high level behavior patterns/habits come in to play which right now, the majority are on PD, thinking about AI, and writing to this forum. And so that's why I've been writing so much to this forum because that is the path of least resistance for me, because I installed those high habit mental patterns as what I wanted to focus on about a month ago. So that the behavior of coming here to write is a subconcious pattern that attracts me.

I also wanted to share a brief thing about creativity. My inner feeling guides it. I write down whatever comes to mind. When I am trying to be creative, my mind is trying to form a brand new IR that is very "discreet" or "consistent". The way that it does this is that when you read lower order IRs over and over again, then the overarching idea, IR, begins to form on its own. That's why its important to capture whatever thought, no matter how bad it is, to a physical medium. Even if you have no clue where you are going with it. By reading all the thoughts that you've written down, then your mind automatically beings to find the overall idea to capture it. Then the light bulb goes off in your head, that's means your mind has told you that it is finished baking up the brand new IR in your mind. And so that this is when the flood of inspiration comes in that you can just write forever and ever without stopping. This is where my analogy of "formula" comes into play. Your mind has just created the new formula and so that now everything just beings to make sense, and that you can't help but to throw new "numbers" or "thoughts" onto this new IR/formula. So that the process of writing a book becomes that you have a new awesome grand IR in your mind, and then it just becomes a process of sending new unique thoughts onto it so that those thoughts pass through the new IR and then down the hierarchy to your language centers that unfold the IR into a linear sting of word, which still have a tree grammar structure to them.

Primarily for me right now, the lower order IRs that make up the higher order IR that I am sharing is the ideas from the book "On Intelligence", plus the IR that represents my knowlege about my internal state, plus external knowlege of Personal Development, plus the creative brainstorm that I've done myself on trying to figure out conciousness and intelligence, plus all the other lower Order IRs that I've written down in this thread already.

See all of this that I've created in this writing. None of it was a struggle, the higher order IRs that it represents were all there... it just became a process of choosing which parts of it to propagating down my hierarchy onto paper. And that's why I say that if you try to come up with your own answers through your own creative process then you will learn so much more... but I guess you need to have some lower order IRs to build off of... but that once you've read information and you don't feel like it is conciously in your mind, it does not matter because it is all in your subconcious mind, and that where all the creativity takes place... so that why photoreading can actually be useful.

And that is the reason that I love FreeMind because it captures your ideas in their natural form, tree structure.

And I'd have more high order IRs on what to say about how useful it is to review your own journal every week or so... so you can define your own high order IRs about your behavior..., so that you can remind yourself what knowlege that you have in your mind...

About how since everything is a tree then that's how you can create such wonderfully complex ideas, and that's why your mind can handle it all because its all just subconcious so that when your knowlege becomes burned into long term memory then your concious mind can effortlessly throw around the roots of those huge trees of knowlege...

A couple more points to dump off my mind:
That's why a cheat sheet is so effective, and that I'm glad Steve made the cheat sheet on 33 items on productivity, because each little tidbit item it like the root to a huge tree, and so that by having that cheat sheet then by reading it over and over again, you can implement Steve's own IR of behavior and make it subconscious, and that you don't have to keep reading his forum over and over again to learn his behavior.


well enough for now. time to finish my paper.

[Sunnybayes]

And another huge idea. In the computer implementation of Numenta's hierarchal temporal memory (HTM = hierarchy), it says that there is a process called Bayesian Belief propagation... to make all the beliefs in the HTM consistent with each other. I think that this is the reason that affirmations work. You are saying something to yourself that you might not believe at first, but that your mind goes through the process of "Bayesian belief propagation" so that your subconsciousness automatically figures out to arrange itself to be consistent with the belief that you've instilled in it so that then it comes up with the structures IRs, automatically to make that belief true. And so that is why the Law of Attraction works.

Well, basically this is just concentrating on a problem. This is the same as visualizing as well.

[Sunnybayes]

Had another great idea. Sometimes you need motivation to give yourself motivation. Like if you know some trick to motivation will work, but that you are not even motivated to apply that trick.

Like my little thing about overcoming procrastination by pinching yourself till you do it. Yea it works, but you still need motivation to pinch yourself in the first place. You can't just pinch yourself to motivate yourself to pinch yourself. This is why all trick methods of personal development as listed on Steve's 33 productivity tips will fail on their own if you don't tie them down by motivation to your goal hierarchy... because you wont have any reason to apply them in the first place. So that all those productivity tips will fail if you don't have a life purpose to apply/link those tips to.

However the idea of mine to do isometric to stop procrastination worked got me because I could not make myself escape from the painful mental patterns that I was having... so I was motivated to apply that motivational trick to stop the pain of procrastination that I really wanted to start on my paper but my thought patterns where so ingrained that it was painful to transition to change them as quickly as I needed to My crazy way of instantly overcoming procrastination / getting motivation to write another paper that I had to do. And also to get out of bed to go to Chinese class from an awesome night of partying. My mental patterns were so focused on being social, so that all my motivation and actions in that night were linked to/motivated by the goal of being a social [winner/butterfly/popular person??], so that going to Chinese had nothing to do with those subconcious motivators so that it was very difficult to get myself to come out of bed. I had not thought of this process of mentally tracing up my goal hierarchy to find motivation so I had to bear all the energy and pain of transitioning ( check out Pain of transitions)all those mental habits and the isometric let me do that. I just knew somehow(not defined or linked to my real goals) that I should probably go to Chinese class. Yea, its easy to look back and say, well duh... you go to Chinese class so that you can get good grades!!! Duhh!!! but still, when you are in a social situation, getting good grades is the last thing on your mind, it is not motivation for being social, so the mental patterns/subconcious habits/loaded up skills from the previous night keep you from wanting to go to class.

To get the motivation in the first place, then that is when you have to go through the long chain of motivation of linking your current action in your mind to your top most goals.... to maintain your hierarchy and keep it whole instead of fragmented. But that is a long and detailed process... so that is then when you use the motivation that you've found by tracing your goals to install your motivational trick. Gain motivation to install a quicker motivational trick. Then instead of having to go through the really long concious process of tracing goals you just use the much faster motivational shortcut.

Which brings me to why I wrote this post in the first place. I was thinking of this when I was reading the post about the fear of failure. I wanted something that would subconsciously and automatically motivate me to write my paper. I thought that fear was a pretty automatic thing, so that I was motivated to install a fear of what would happen if I did not finish my paper. I am by default fearless so that I can be happy whenever I want. [edit: well, fear is always present you come across something new, I just have a subconcious automatic habit of systematically making the fear go away]

But then I thought about just picturing a girlfriend and said that I would be able to be with her if I finished my paper. I installed a shortcut of motivation. And it helps... thought I was so happy about it that I decided to procrastinate even more by writing this post about it. Ohwell. I'll have to figure out that one next.

[Sunnybayes]

I had a fear of talking to girls on the phone. I was never good at it. Why because I never did it. Here is what I wrote in my journal to get over that fear:
why am i afraid to call her up?
she's gonnaa be like "what the hell do you want?!!! you stupid f...r!!! you stupid SOB I hate your guts!!! why in the hell are you bothering!!! leave me alone!!! god!!!"

then i realized that was not going to happen. That's the worst thing that could happen. Just by reading that I filled in some missing IRs. Therefore I've defined the sub IRs of calling her up. And then I fear that I would not know what to say. I had fear because the intention IR of calling up did not have any sub IRs. So I made an outline of the things that I wanted to say. So then I felt better and was able to call her up. Now I still had a bit of fear in me... so I did some visualizations... and then that's when you have to rely on courage to get over the last bit of fear. But then one or two phone calls and magically your fear of calling up a girl goes away.

Like any other fear... its all the same. fear of the unknown = missing IRs.

magic. And you can always get over your fear the same way.

Noticed how Steve help people to get over their fear of death by making them visualize it in a gruesome way:

While some people rely on their faith to make peace with death, I put more trust in first-hand experience.

Have you ever thought about how you’d like to die? Assuming you had a choice, how would you like to cross over? Personally I think getting riddled with bullets would be a good way to go. Really go out with a bang. I’d prefer that as opposed to dying in my sleep (which could be confusing) or succumbing to a protracted illness (too slow). I think I’d like a little adrenaline surge on the way out. When you look down and see your clothes soaked in blood and notice the intense pain everywhere, you know your time is up. It’s hard to mistake it for anything else. In that case you have the opportunity to consciously witness and embrace your moment of crossing over. If there’s a lot of pain, death becomes a welcome relief, something you actually look forward to. I imagine it would be rather exhilarating if you don’t resist it.

Makes you visualize a pretty grewsome way. And explains why its not so bad.

Always the same.

More explanation on fear:
Fear and analysis paralysis

[Sunnybayes]

This is about how to get Intellectual motivation for huge goals.

InJoy, thanks.
Actually i want nothing. It makes me feel strange and lost.
Well... I do want to find "intellectual motivation".

Also the cool thing is it that we are forced by nature to want certain things in life.

So even though you don't know what you want, nature has programmed you to want these things:

Health, wealth, relationships, intellectual curiosity.
Because these things help our DNA to spread the earth.

That was the short version.

Here's what I actually mean:
Do we all have the same goal?

So your top level goal is to help create organized conciousness.

But everyone can't do that in the same way or society would fail. Everyone has a different role in life.

This is where the 10 hours comes in, to figure out what particular way you are going to help out.

And like Steve says, you have to make it a huge, hairy and audacious goal. Because it is you top level goal. Something that you could chase for your entire life. Your reason for you doing anything.

Also, if you've read through the framework, nature has programmed us to believe in god, has programmed into us faith.

Faith is the ultimate most top level goal. Its the background goodness in you. Its the background pleasure of living. It is your driving force.

You top most level goal has to be as close to that faith as possible. Faith sits on the peak of the hierarchy. It is your brains drive that makes you always want something better. Faith is want. Consciousness sits at the top of the hierarchy, I explain why faith is god is your conciousness.

I recommend working through these kinds of blocks in your journal. Type a question like, “Why am I feeling unmotivated to achieve this goal?” Then type whatever answer comes to mind. You’ll often find that the source of your block is that you’re thinking too small. You’re letting fears, excuses, and limiting beliefs hold you back. Your subconscious mind knows you’re settling, so it won’t provide any motivational fuel until you step up, face your fears, and acknowledge your heart’s desire. Once you finally decide to face your fears and drop the excuses, then you’ll find your motivation turning on full blast.

When I use this process myself, I uncover new goals that seem unreasonably big. I admit that I want them, but I feel incapable of achieving them. However, when I finally step up and set goals that lie outside my comfort zone, somehow I end up feeling very motivated, and I summon all sorts of unexpected resources to help me.

Was it unreasonable to set a web traffic goal of reaching a million monthly visitors without spending any money on marketing? I originally thought so, but I privately set that goal before I ever launched this site because it inspired me. More reasonable traffic goals had no motivational effect on me. Now that I’ve achieved that goal, my next traffic goal is to reach 10 million visitors a month. Is that unreasonable? Probably. But somehow it’s very motivating to me.

It seems counter-intuitive that motivation may be highest when setting goals that lie outside your comfort zone, but I’ve seen this pattern too many times to discount it. Perhaps we have to set big, hairy, audacious goals in order to feel truly motivated. Maybe little goals just aren’t enough to trigger the release of motivational energy. If we think a goal is too easy, we won’t commit all our internal resources. It’s only when we set unreasonable goals that all our internal resources come online, including motivation and drive.

When Steve says "If we think a goal is too easy" that means we think subconsciously that we've already created all the necessary invariant representations, so that we would not need to create more IRs. And as I say here: creating IRs that link to your main hierarchy create pleasure. So if you already have the skills, the IRs already, the you wont get pleasure. Because you only get pleasure when you create IRs that link to your hierarchy.

Also if a goal is too small, then that means you are trying to create invariant representations that are not high enough in the hierarchy. And that you have not yet linked it to your main hierarchy. And therefore is not close enough to the faith.

And now here is another crazy thing. If you have not thought about it before, then your top level goals will create fear in you. Just like Steve says here:

When you set goals that are too small and too timid, you suffer a perpetual lack of motivation. Try all the emotional conditioning techniques you want, but you’re wasting your time. Deep down you already know the truth. You just need to summon the courage to acknowledge your true desires. Then you’ll have to deal with the self-doubt and fear that’s been making you think too small. There’s no getting around that if you want to experience lasting motivation. Ironically, the real key to motivation is to set goals that scare you.

I recommend working through these kinds of blocks in your journal. Type a question like, “Why am I feeling unmotivated to achieve this goal?” Then type whatever answer comes to mind. You’ll often find that the source of your block is that you’re thinking too small. You’re letting fears, excuses, and limiting beliefs hold you back. Your subconscious mind knows you’re settling, so it won’t provide any motivational fuel until you step up, face your fears, and acknowledge your heart’s desire. Once you finally decide to face your fears and drop the excuses, then you’ll find your motivation turning on full blast.

Now to translate this into my language of Invariant Representations:
fear = your concisenesses has focused on an IR that does not have its sub IRs defined yet = fear of unknown.

IF you think of a goal/IR that is high enough in your hierarchy, then it will not have had its sub IRs defined yet. Therefore you will fear it.

This is why I think they said "fear god". If god is as high up in the hierarchy that you can get, then you've probably have not defined the sub IRS yet so you fear it.

So when Steve says "set goals that scare you" then you know you are setting goals that are high enough.

And to no longer fear it, what does Steve suggest? He suggest this:

I recommend working through these kinds of blocks in your journal. Type a question like, “Why am I feeling unmotivated to achieve this goal?” Then type whatever answer comes to mind. You’ll often find that the source of your block is that you’re thinking too small. You’re letting fears, excuses, and limiting beliefs hold you back.

He says use your journal. What he is asking you to do is to do some brainstorming to come up with some steps that you can achieve your biggest goals. This means you have a high up IR, define its sub IRs. Visualize what the sub IRs are.

Fear = fear of unknown = missing sub IRs. Overcome your fear = face your fear = make the unknown known = define sub IRs for that scary top level IR by visualizing and brainstorming.

Why does this question work?
“Why am I feeling unmotivated to achieve this goal?”

In the language of IRs, you have motivation for a goal if that goal/IR is linked to your main hierarchy. So basically this question means:
"Why am I feeling that this IR is not linked to my main hierarchy?"

And basically this is the same as asking "Why am I feeling scared to achieve this goal?" And then you write down your fears. And then you expand your fear out in a tree like fashion. If you trace your fear far enough, then you get down to the very lowest level root IRs.

I used this method to get over my fear of calling a girl up on the phone:
Get over calling fear and the fear of bungee jumping (me visualizing my brains going splat on the concrete :-), but I've conquered my fear of death so that does not bother me)

Then once you've done that then he says:

When I use this process myself, I uncover new goals that seem unreasonably big. I admit that I want them, but I feel incapable of achieving them.

Imagine that your hierarchy is a pyramid. Once you've done the process of uncovering your fears to the deepest level, then you've built the based of the pyramid. Then you feel like you can now stand and reach for higher ambitious goals.

Then finally:

It’s only when we set unreasonable goals that all our internal resources come online, including motivation and drive.

When I set a goal that’s big enough and challenging enough, I never need to pump myself up with emotional rah-rah. I feel motivated to pursue the goal because my intellect is fully behind it.

"set unreasonable goals" defined:
goals = IR
unreasonable = way high
set = linked it to hierarchy = connected to purpose in life = serve DNA/god = connected to faith = peak of the hierarchy = consciousness = want

"set unreasonable goals"

"I feel motivated to pursue the goal" = "I want to do this goal" = goal is connected/linked to your want/drive/faith/conciousness/I/god

= IR is connected to your main hierarchy = not some fragmented piece

[Sunnybayes]

And also I've defined HAPPINESS when your hierarchy is not fragmented/ it is whole.

How to be happy:
Defined a crazy life goal.
Always know how your actions lead to that goal.
Don't set extraneous goals that you don't know how they are linked to the top.
Not have fears.
Have faith.
Get absorbed by work you are passionate for (i.e. everything for your work is so automatic because all the subconcious IRs have been defined for your work)
Find a balance between boredom and stress = interesting enough by not chaotic
Maintain health, wealth, relationships, intellectual curiosity
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[Sunnybayes]

Installing fear as motivation is evil... check. Stick with the love.

[may77]

yep, totally agree. need to link to a higher goal in order to make the little ones meaningful and integrated.

[Sunnybayes]

Here another big post.

Summarized:
1.) I'm in all 3 categories at once, and it should be that way
2.) I explain how to be creative, and explain that that's the thing that everyone is missing about Personal Development, and is in fact the key to personal development, and well the purpose life which is to be creative and create.
3.) Being creative ties together planning, action, and learning into the same time, and solves the paradox and mystery of "LEARNING BUT NOT DOING". I.E. if you are not in the process of being creative, creating something new, then you are always LEARNING BUT NOT DOING
4.) So basically, other than having sex,being healthy, eating food, and sleeping, and other basic body regulatory stuff, being creative is the key to life and happiness. That's why Steve himself is such a happy guy... look at all he's created.

Originally Posted by Shamou

Are you in a Growth… Survival… or Floating Mode…???

Let me define, for the purpose of this thread, what each of these modes implies…

1. Growth. you are designing and creating your life. you have goals and objectives that are supported by a set of plans and strategies of action. you are determined, and you are holding the world by the tail… (If you are in this category… please share your secrets of success with us…)

2. Survival… life is a struggle… the future is uncertain… you hope that nothing will go wrong and that your finances will hold… you are tense and stressed… the best that you can do is to keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best… (If you are in this category… stay with this forum… you will learn things that will help you… and if you have any question… do not hesitate to ask…)

3. Floating… things are pretty good… you don’t have much ambition… or you are still searching for your place in life… your main preoccupation is to do as little as possible… and have as much fun as possible… (If you are in this category… get a life… )

Well, I'm in all three simultaneously. That's the way its always going to be, and how I want it to be.

From 1:
I am "designing and creating your life". I do this at least an hour a day.

If you are a slave to someone else then you can't (school, job, or a slave to the commercial corporations of the world by becoming a mindless zombie swallowing TV commercials to go out and buy more of their ****)

"objectives that are supported by a set of plans and strategies of action…"
Here is my plan to make a billion dollars:
Spend 4 hours a day being creative (coming up with my own knowlege, using other people's knowlege as a base). Spending an hour planning the next day. And then 2 hours for doing the stuff that society/nature has mandated me to do in my current situation (i.e. school work, job, taxes, getting food), until I escape those. Spend the rest of that time having fun. Each day those numbers are going to be slightly different on what I feel like for the day. There's my plan for the next 100 years.

Be creative and figure that out how to be creative.

Here's how to learn how to be creative: (perhaps only .5~5% of people know how)
(I'm being creative by typing out how to be creative, here is a good example)
open up note pad and type "how can I be creative" Be creative and write down whatever comes to mind, don't put in any effort into what comes out, its all going to be crap at first, but just keep going, your brain has a built in algorithm by DNA of making that stuff that comes out more clear if you go back and read what you've written and then ask more questions from those, I.E. you become "inspired" by what yourself has just written down....

if you have more questions to yourself about how to be creative then ask even more questions. FOR EXAMPLE:

what is the definition of being creative?
why in the hell does it matter that I am creative?
how is it that i can explain even better to people about how to be creative?
how would i be able to express the fact that being creative is the missing thing that anyone who does not yet get personal development yet and that creativity runs the world and that is what will drive the ultimate convergence of conciousness, and that conciousness is just a fight against the second law of thermodynamics, and that the very name of being creative means to create something that is not there yet, and that is what society values and pays the most for, and that new things are what people want, and that someone has to come up with the new thing, and that if you don't create the new thing yourself then the person who does create the new thing is the one who is going to get the money, so that you'd better learn how to be creative by being creative and figuring that out yourself or you'll be left out, and that creativity is not hard to do, you just do it by asking yourself questions and then those questions lead to more questions and ect?

And then if you get stuck with a question that you've asked yourself, like :"What is the nature of conciousness and how does the brain do it?"
Then just write:

I don't know. Why?
Because i don't know what conciousness is.
Why don't I know what consciousness is?
-I guess i could look up the answer in the dictionary.
-because no one else knows - how come noone else knows? no one has cared to think about it yet...
-because god does not what us to know.

Then just randomly pick out one of your answers and and say
"-because god does not what us to know."
How come god does not want us to know?
because its... bla....

When you've overwhelmed yourself, go back, read it, or call it a day and let your mind rest.
The next day, you'll make new insights based on those low order IRs.
The questions open your attention for your subconcious mind to start chugging away. You give buds to the ends of your hierarchy.

Doing Q&A's does multiple things:
1: taking action... you are coming up with the answers
2: making rough plans, because you are asking yourself how to be able to answer your own questions
3: having fun... you are exploring want you want, because you are the one who is asking the questions, not some stupid homework, or your boss, and your brain creates pleasure for figuring stuff out (like light bulb, chess, video games)
4: you are your own boss directing yourself
5: you become a leader in that area that you've chosen to figure out, because you understand that knowlege that you created better than anyone else
6: you remove fear of whatever you are figuring out, because fear is a just the fear of the unknown, and that by asking questions you force yourself to remove those fears
7: Creates motivation to answer your own questions. you have a created a rough plan. you know the reasons that you are working to answer your questions.
8: Avoids procrastination. It's easy to ask yourself questions. It is caused by analysis of paralysis due to fear. And being creative means no fear.

PROOF this works? I had no clue what I was going to write all this before I wrote it, only a general feeling. [For example, this example did not exists, until I wrote down the sentences before this one, and the sentence after this one, then I read those, and applied the IR of the last sentence to the IR of the next sentence and had inspiration. That inspiration came in about 2 seconds, I did not use any concious effort besides reading those sentences, good thing I don't have to worry about how to do inspiration because DNA has programmed by brain to automatically do "inspiration" for me. In other words create new higher order IRs when it comes across lower order IRs. So basically you just read what you wrote and let your subconcious mind do its thing. If creativity (i.e. creating new IRs) were not automatic then how would a baby know how to learn language? ] My GOAL, IRs that I wanted to build, was to show how being creative basically solves everything. I was creative by answering other questions, and I kept on look at what I just previously wrote for my brain to do its inspiration thing for me.

From 2:
The "future is uncertain…" and nothing will ever stop that. There are degrees of certainty. You could spend 12 hours planning out the next day down to the second to make it very certain... and then it comes down to analysis/paralysis.

(Giving yourself a deadline motivates you with fear of the consequences of not finishing a task on time... so the fight or flight reaction kicks in so you are either flying stressed out to get your plan done, or that you see your big plan for that day and getting paralyzed and not wanting to do it... And as I thought about before, motivation by fear is an evil thing (will explain later), so basically its kinda a bad thing to think that you have to have something done by some arbitrary deadline, and I guess that makes Steve's method on working on something until its done even more effective (as explained in Do it Now))

OR the first day is not actually wasted by spending 12 hours planning? Why? Because with planning you first have to figure out what you are trying to plan. You have to go out and read books, or even better you have to think about things yourself and create your own knowlege. So in fact, even though siting down and planning may seem like inaction, it is in fact action.... though as I explained here, everything you do is inaction unless you can convince yourself how your planning is help.

From 3:
"things are pretty good… ". If you are being creative then you are happy, and having fun. And you must take time to be social with people (having fun) because DNA mandates that or we get sad and lonely. Being creative wears down your brain circuits so you have to rest, and there's no better way to recharge than having fun.

If you do things right, you are in all three categories. Though you never need to be "tense and stressed". If you are being creative and focused on one high level goal, then you don't have to go through the transitions that cause stress.

[lawshull]

I did enjoy your thread sunnybayes. I believe it was Tony Robbins said, "the quality of our lives are equal to the quality of the questions we ask ourselves."

I truly beleive we need to spend more time being creative or in the creative state ie. the thread I just read. ( ryhme not entended.) We can read all the PD books we want to attend all the seminars listen to all the audio books ,blah,blah blah. Nothing will happen in our lives of true value until we take action and start being creative, or asking ourselves quality questions. Thank you for thread sunnybayes. Lawshull

[Sunnybayes]

thanks lawshull. That made my month

[Sunnybayes]

Note: I had this in the Learning but not Doing thread, just wanted to put it here also

The people who figure out how to take action become the leaders.

Most people are not the leaders. Most people are followers. Most people learn too much.

Leaders are creative. They know how to seek answers for themselves. They come up with the solution themselves.

Seriously. If everyone here took a week and thought about nothing but how to be productive, just finding the answers within, then they could probably come up with enough insight to derive a huge chunk of the knowlege that was written by Steve. They have the intuition there to make decisions, though it might take like a year or two to try to type it out what they've discovered in a week.

Its like there there is one high level formula (= higher order IR), and then the Personal Development writers who know the simple formula themselves throw tons of different situations to the formula, and then they take those answers and sell them in huge books. When the formula itself is very simple, and is very general, and can handle any experience that can ever happen to a human.

Then its up to the reader to take in all the answers of the book (low order IRs), find the pattern (by reading them over), and then hopefully be able to derive that formula (the same high level IR). But then people get stuck when they've found the simple formula... and its just too simple. They don't lead themselves to apply new numbers/situations to that formula (they are not brave enough to apply that life formula to new life situations) or they are just stuck with getting good at coming up with different formula's. Or that they are not patient enough to plug in numbers and do a few simple calculations to come up with their own answers. Or they are distracted and forget that they know the formula. Or they don't know what numbers to plug into their formula because they don't have any real goals (i.e highest level goal/purpose that is discreet (defined well).

Or that they are looking for someone else to tell them what to apply the formula to. You've gotta learn how to be your own leader, or you are always going to be stumbling through life not knowing really what to do and feeling quite pointless.

Here's a formula, instead of a table of answers, to get you off of inaction:
Do a 30 day trial of spending an hour a day of thinking about your own formula that runs your life (i.e high level mental IRs), from internal knowlege (the low order IRs already in your brain), not external knowlege (the low order IRs written by text by someone else). This is where a journal comes in handy. External knowlege is the table of answers. You are deriving the equitation (the high order IR) that comes up with those answers. You are coming up with your own formula. Like Steve has his own formula and that's why he's able to create this huge blog, he just keeps throwing on new situations onto the formula. on You are learning internally how to be your own leader (i.e. learning how to plan). Then spend a second hour thinking about your life goals/purpose. Your life goals will be the numbers that you will plug into your formula that you've derived.

Here's a formula that DNA provides for your life purpose:
To be happy, you have to constantly have good relationships, health, and wealth, and curiosity (built in because nature wants us to know about our environment so that we can manipulate it and survive in it better)

But all of this advice was derive from my own formula... though this is when action is required action that you come up with your own formula.

Steve described his formula that he uses for running/managing his life here:
Meaning of Life From Purpose to Action

more specifically more on planning

And what his input is for his "life equation" here:
About Steve Pavlina

What has resulted from him applying his equation to his purpose that he described there? This whole website of his that makes him $100,000

His whole idea about light/dark workers is so that you don't feel guilty for having your own world changing, ambitious goals.

And that when you have high enough goals, then learning will no longer be just something to do, it will be action, because you know how it will get you to those high level goals.

And if you actually read these articles, then it actually counts as action because you are taking action to derive your own equation that runs your life, and then if you read his articles about finding life purpose then that is also action because you are taking action to find your life purpose/goals.

Then to take action for the rest of your life onward, you'll take the formula that you've derived from reading all that information and apply it to your own life purpose that you've created.

And never again will you not be doing action as long as whatever you are doing is fulfilling your life purpose. Learning is action as long as you know how it is specifically fulfilling your life goals and purpose (executing IRs that are linked to your hierarchy and not fragmented). Learning is inaction if you don't know (reading lower order IRs by reading external knowlege is inaction if they wont be able to link to your main hierarchy) .

So if you have not defined your life purpose yet (made a high level well defined IR that you can link everything else to (created by being creative (see my creativity post)), then everything that you do is inaction. (i.e. tv, school, your job, your family.... unless you know how those specifically help you to fulfill your life goals... like if TV helps you to recharge (because you just finished having a creative burst that ran down your brain circuits) so you can be your best later , then its cool... but if you are just addicted to it (i.e have high level mental IRs that run subconsciously but are not linked to your main hierarchy) and it keeps you away from figuring out how to be a billionaire (which i assume is connected to your main hierarchy) then it is inaction...)

For me, writing to these forums is action because it helps the convergence of conciousness and it is helping me to figure out how to program AI.

[Sunnybayes]

So yea... I've figured out half of the picture.

Yes creativity is very important. But what are you creating?

Well there is creating the internal IR inside your subconcious or working memory. But then you have to run those IRs so that they are applied to the external world.

So its like programming a computer. You create the computer program, but then you have to know when to hit the execute button.

With writing it is simple. You read your previous writing and that creates new IRs, and then you basically run that IR that was just created by propagating it back down to your language and motor cortex so that you write it. So you take action as soon as the IR is created. And all of that was in the working memory so that it is all temporary.

So now its time to think about how to work in the other side of the equation.

Creativity is about when the sensory information flows up your hierarchy, and it creates new IRs.

Action/Prediction is when it runs in reverse and the IRs are executed.

hmm... I think this is where the concepts of Steve's light and dark workers come in.

Right now I'm so a light worker. All this creativity. I'm good with creating new concepts and knowlege. But is basically all internal in my head and localized to this forum.

That's when I need to become a dark worker to distribute the knowlege. So that I should stop creating this and work on "taking action" as in distribution to the outside world.

SO here's a new idea... taking action is the process of making those internal IRs external to the outside world. Instead of the external world influencing the internal world, the process is reversed when the internal world influences the external world.

So perhaps a dark worker just tries to execute/distribute the IRs to the "external world" (with different degrees of externalities) as soon as possible regardless of the depth of the IRS.... or maybe is just stuck... ahh

Don't know. These thoughts are still rough. I'll come back and edit them later.

[Sunnybayes]

Meditation vs Writing

Originally Posted by Precious

I discovered what good meditation can be some weeks ago, and how many things you can discover meditating. But after reading some books I've saw that those people are doing some kind of meditation in writing, explaining some things in writing. I also use meditation for a better understanding of how things work, and I'm wondering witch is better, meditaion to analyze your thoughts or writing down your thoughts ?

Thanks

Waiting your opinion.

Use both.

When you get stuck with meditation then write everything down. When you feel overwhelmed that you've written too much and feel lost in a sea of information, then that's when you meditate to let your mind consolidate and summarize it all into intuition, and you'll find that when you look back at what you've written you'll just feel like "duh of course!!!". And then when the light bulb goes off "I finally get it.. WOW!!" (and you feel awesome that you've figured it out), then that just means that the higher level ideas are done cooking. Then a flood of inspiration will come in where you feel like you've got to write every thing down again before you forget it.

After you've written tons, summarize that information on a "cheat sheet" (like steve's 33 tips on productivity) and then use meditation to reflect on what you've written on that cheat sheet.

For those who have followed my framework in my signature (especially the post about "creativity is the key to personal development") this means:

You have tons of low order IRs written out on paper. You have raw feelings that you've written down over the course of a week or so. It might take you an hour to read through it all again so that you can let your mind build of the inspiration to make new higher order IRs.

Instead, you read through all you've written once and make a 1 page or so cheat sheet to consolidate that information. That way you can repeat all those low order IRs to your mind 100x faster.

Also meditation is just replaying the lower oder IRs to yourself internally.

This will make you form higher order IRs/Intuition so much faster.

And like I said, you know when a higher order IR is done cooking when you can feel the light bulb go off in your head and you feel absolutely inspired, and then a flood of new ideas will come to you, so write them down, so that in a day or so when you have forgotten that you have that new IR in your head, you can just look back and see the results of it, and then use those written down thoughts to form an even higher order IR.

[Sunnybayes]

Astrology is to Physics as PD is to Analytical PD

I want to show how the physical and real feelings inside your body and brain/head/mind/eyes map to:
learning, tiredness, zoning out, thoughts, sleep, emotions, procrastination, motivation, happiness, sadness, frustration, joy, love, fear conciousness, habits, confidence, intelligence, intention/ manifestation, creativity, making goals, law of attraction, other weird concepts from other PD stategies, ... ect.... ect...

As always a work in progress, some of it is speculation... but grounded to reality through my experience. Could be contradictory that I need to realize and clarify, and as I think about it more, it will become more consistent and plausible and able to make better predictions about behavior. And all of these are my ideas... they could all be absolutely wrong, but I'm going to continue to work on them for myself, and hopefully they'd be useful for others.

Basically I want to make a dictionary of how to describe emotions and internal state. I'm trying to learn the skill of being able to control my mind. This is my attempt at going straight to the source of personal development. No more fuzzy stuff... this is going to be personal observations of states and emotions what it means and hopefully I'll come up with some good insights about why we act the way we do.

This is not supposed to be a spiritual thread really, though at first it might defiantly sound spiritual, cause I might use some vague terms at first. But maybe I'd get a better response if I posted this in the conciousness section of the forums, but I don't really want this to be a spiritual sounding thing. I really mean to this thread to be an analytical, scientific, experimental, direct exploration of one's internal state.

Intend to add: (at least so far)
- How to actually become "more conscious" and know it
- What levels of consciousness means
- How and why intention/manifestation works in this model
- feel this stuff I am talking about
- How to remove memories / reprogram memories
- How to feel young / old

I intend to adapt this model to explain:
Relationship/social stuff
The best way to get the best grades in college
[probably others...]

Fundamentals of Analytical Personal Development: (still being defined)
1.) There is nothing mystical about it. You can scientifically observe and be aware of your internal states and be able to predict them and know the causes and predict the effects.
2.) All your internal feelings have a direct mapping to the structures of your body and brain. You can become conscious of these mappings and know how to control them to cause desired change in states and emotions.

I wanted to do this because I see all sort of discussion about weird Quantum Physics conciousness, blah blah blah ... All that crap is just to make it sound really really advanced and high tech and that it can solve all your problems without you having to put in any thing at all, and so that you'll be really inclined to spend lots and lots of money. However I've not tried PATHS, so I wont dis it more than their really sick marketing, maybe it does work. Just a load of marketing B.S. I am a undergraduate physicists myself at UIUC, makes me sick when they pull that stuff. I am also a computer scientist, I am trying to figure out to make intelligent machines. Ok, yes I still have a long way to go, but since I have been able to observe my internal state so well, I can have a better road map of where to take it.

About my screenname, bayes is short for Bayesian, a concept used in artificial intelligence.

[Sunnybayes]

I've got the oddest feeling now.

I know exactly what I need to do to be the most successful guy in the world. you know... being creative solves everything at once (fear, motivation, procrastination, leadership..ect.,ect.) ... wow... that gave me some intense motivation and drive but I think I over did it the day before yesterday and was so excited that I stayed up until 5 am just working out everything... but yesterday I was totally foggy from it, I felt decently ok, and today I felt alright, but I think because I abused my mind and body like that, that my brain associated pain with doing the creativity thing so now I'm kinda indifferent to the whole framework... i.e. it shot my motivation a bit... or maybe I'm just saying this because I'm tiered now, or perhaps some other aspect of my balance is off, I hardly ate today (no I don't feel sick), so that might be part of it too.

But after my brain achieves normal balance again in a day or so, I'll remove the negative association that my brain installed from following this framework, and then I'll be sure to limit myself to normal sleeping hours. I'll just have to deal with being extremely excited. That way I'll be able to maintain the motivation in a healthy way. And I suppose I still need to practice being more disciplined with a bit more structure.

So yea.... 99.9% of people have problems with not being motivated enough, well I've just discovered that I had a problem with being too motivated... lol... (never thought that would happen)...

I now need to work on making it just a normal thing, cause lately I've just been too overwhelmed with excitement (yea... such a horrible thing I know...) I'm going to take it like its just part of my job to be brilliant, (ok... don't shoot me ).

it might also be that I've not been social at all for the last 3 days...

[Sunnybayes]

This post is basically about why its hard to take action.

hmmm... I feel ok. But still have some weird mental block. I feel like my brain has enough juices in it.

But I'm not absolutely crazy driven like I was 3 nights ago. Though I was more disciplined today and got some stuff done.

Oh, so I'll share a little trick that I've discovered, or rediscovered in a different point of view.

Say you've got a nice plan laid out of just mindless easy stuff that you have to do, and the things are not really related, but you still have motivation to do them.

I found that when I followed the plan, I had a sinking feeling in my gut, whenever I did a transition, like "now i have to move over hear to find a paper, now I have to find an email address on the internet, now I have to clean my room so that I can find my keys", ect.

This sinking feeling happens when you are changing situations because your subconcious has now come across something that you have not expected. And your frontal cortex burns through tons of energy when it comes across something unexpected.

[edit: as I look back on this post 2 months later, I think the resistance also comes because you have to waste energy figuring out how to do new behavior, and also, there is internal resistance from the two halves of the brain, explained later.]

This is explained in the Neuroscience of Leadership article .

The same cognitive dynamics come into play when people face other types of stressful experiences, including any strategic or organizational change. Much of what managers do in the workplace — how they sell ideas, run meetings, manage others, and communicate — is so well routinized that the basal ganglia are running the show. Trying to change any hardwired habit requires a lot of effort, in the form of attention. This often leads to a feeling that many people find uncomfortable. So they do what they can to avoid change.

The second reason change is hard relates to basic brain functioning. Human brains have evolved a particularly strong capacity to detect what neuroscientists call “errors”: perceived differences between expectation and actuality. When a child (or an adult, for that matter) is promised a sweet-tasting treat and then discovers it tastes salty or bitter, the brain emits strong signals that use a lot of energy, showing up in imaging technology as dramatic bursts of light. Edmund Rolls first illustrated this at Oxford University in the early 1980s, with a study involving monkeys. Dr. Rolls found that “errors” in the environment produced intense bursts of neural firing, markedly stronger than the firing caused by familiar stimuli.

These error signals are generated by a part of the brain called the orbital frontal cortex. Located above the eyeballs, it is closely connected to the brain’s fear circuitry, which resides in a structure called the amygdala. (The amygdala is the source of the “amygdala hijack,” the sudden and overwhelming fear or anger response described in layman’s terms by Daniel Goleman in his popular book Emotional Intelligence.) The amygdala and the orbital frontal cortex are among the oldest parts of the mammal brain, remnants of evolutionary history. When these parts of the brain are activated, they draw metabolic energy away from the prefrontal region, which promotes and supports higher intellectual functions. The prefrontal region is particularly well developed in humans, and doesn’t exist at all below the higher primates. Error detection signals can thus push people to become emotional and to act more impulsively: Animal instincts take over.

This is the thing that makes taking action hard. This is what keeps you doing some mindless activity like watching TV.

I had the intellectual motivation there because I knew how all those actions linked to my life goal and purpose, but it still caused resistance in every time I did a transition to do anything new. The "but I don't feel like it..." feeling.

So I figured, well, I'll just not let myself feel that sinking gut feeling my pinching myself. Yup... and it seemed to work. The slight pain of the pinch made my concious mind switch away from the sinking feeling to the light pain of the pinch, and so I was able to do the transitions easier. That way my brain did not form an association of pain with the transitions so that I would not unmotivate myself from following my plan.

I think the same effect might come from doing exercise in the morning. The soreness of your muscles distracts your mind from the sinking feeling of doing transitions.

I think that might be why Tony Robbins did his chest beating motivation.

Tony Robbins says the key to motivation is state management. This means conditioning yourself to feel a certain way via techniques like anchoring (connecting an emotion to a physical trigger). When Tony pounds his chest while speaking, he’s firing off anchors he previously conditioned.

(from steve's motivation for smart people article)

and I also describe this in my post here: My crazy way of instantly overcoming procrastination / getting motivation

Instead of doing the isometric, just a pinch was enough to keep my mind distracted away from the sinking feeling.

Though also I think if I were in a more of high concious state (defined in my dictionary post) that I would be able to induce the correct belief at the top of my hierarchy faster so that my subconcious mind would always be able to anticipate the transition that I was about to make faster, so the sinking feeling would not occur. And I found that I do that when I have to start writing my papers if I've procrastinated too long on it. But it usually takes a bit of meditation to get in that state... I'll have to experiment more with that. And it also seems that being in a high concious state makes me more introverted because I really begin having intuitive thoughts so that I have to take a while to adjust to being extroverted again. Transition to feeling social

Oh yea, and the whole point that I wrote this post. I was going to see if going clubbing tonight would put me back on balance to see if I could have an incredible burst of motivation and creativity again. If that's true then it would be almost mandatory that I go out once or twice a week. But maybe its just that i need time.

[Sunnybayes]

Ok. So quick update from the last post.

So instead of going out clubbing, since my best friend was leaving to go back home to the states to go start work, I went to speak to him for two hours.

But by being social, I was in fact able to spur on another great burst of creativity. I'll have to experiment with this again. Either there was some kind of brain regulation going on inside of me, or it was just the fact that I had a break from thinking about this stuff that it did let me be more creative again. I'll have to try this again sometime... probably will be in two weeks or so before I come like this again. But I feel another drive in me to be more creative. I might be able to get the same effect from just going out walking alone for the same amount of time, but maybe I really did need to have the social stimulation.

Also that night when I was able to keep thing from 9pm to 5am was when I spent the whole day from 10:00am to 5:00pm doing karaoke and eating sushi with my friends...

[Sunnybayes]

Ok, so here's some more proof that your subconcious is in a hierarchy. I found this in the text book An Introduction to Brain and Behavior, Second Edition. [there is a torrent for this book]

-Hierarchy is manifest in the complex behavior of adult humans, in that it is a
mixture of many behaviors that are clearly recognizable in other animals, including regulatory behaviors, emotional behavior, cognitive functions, and more specialized, non regulatory behaviors seen only prominently in humans.

The addition and integration of new levels of complexity in the hierarchical organization of the brain is seen not only in adult behavior but also in the development of the human brain from infancy into adulthood. Hierarchical organization accounts for the increasingly more complex behavior that characterizes development as well. [my comment: the higher order more complex IRs are built off the lower order IRs]

The increasing complexity of movement and cognitive functions are manifestations of the maturation of successive levels of a hierarchally organized brain (see Figure E-2).
In addition, the abnormalities associated with brain injury and brain disease that seem bizarre when considered in isolation are only the normal manifestation of parts of a hierarchically organized brain.Through the principle of hierarchy,we can see that our evolutionary history, our developmental history, and our own personal history are integrated at the various anatomical and functional “levels” of the nervous system.

Also this backs up the idea that your conciousness just points to the root of an IR circuit of your subconscious mind to "run" it

BRAIN ORGANIZATION SEGREGATES SENSORY
INFORMATION USED FOR ACTION AND FOR KNOWLEDGE
In the ordinary course of our daily lives, we operate under the illusion that our behavior is conscious.We believe that we give conscious commands to produce purposeful movements. Usually, we are unaware that many of our actions, even very complex actions, are performed without conscious control.We are unaware that we shape our fingers to the objects that we are about to grasp (Chapter 10).We are surprised to learn that, subsequent to temporal-lobe injury, we can reach for objects that we cannot consciously see and that, subsequent to parietal-cortex damage, we can misreach for objects that we can see.

This dichotomy between conscious action and unconscious action shows us that the brain segregates actions that require conscious reflection from those that require only action. Reaching for a handrail on a moving bus would not be an effective protective action if we had to think about it for any length of time before doing it. Much of our behavior can be divided into categories of knowledge and action. For example, basketball is a complex sport, and knowledge of rules and strategies is required to understand the game. But an experienced player probably gives little attention to rules and strategies and catches, throws, and shoots the ball almost automatically. Shooting a basketball can be learned in a single trial, but shooting it accurately takes many thousands of trials. Many skills can similarly be divided into these action and knowledge categories. Because the brain segregates action and knowledge, complex behavior also can be segregated into categories of largely more conscious and largely more automatic, as can brain regions.

The part about

Shooting a basketball can be learned in a single trial, but shooting it accurately takes many thousands of trials.

means that your concious mind must program your subconcious mind to act automatically.

[Sunnybayes]

I will update this post to hold the links to the other post that I put onto this forum.

5/15/07 My definition of success
5/15/07 Sin is relative to your system
5/15/06 Summary of the Framework so far
5/31/07 Why I believe in god.
7/17/07 We are the edge of chaos.
7/20/07 Freewill and QM = Deterministic Probability

[Sunnybayes]

lol. somehow I'm still living in 2004... hehehe. meant 2007
[done with editing as much as I'd like to for now]
Ok. So here's a summary of this framework, a visual model so you can see intuitively how everything works at once.

Evolution strives for complexity as driven by various laws of physics.

Evolution rewards the system (i.e. organism, society, brain, whatever) that can predict and manipulate its environment the best to survive. A system exists because it is in a state that makes it probable to exists (it survives and we observe it because it is in a state that makes it easy to be observed, able to manipulate its environment to survive)

As applied to the system of yourself (personal development)

The system is the hierarchy of invariant representations inside your brain. It is your subconscious.

Personal Development means learning how to become a genius or a high concious individual so that you can have the biggest and fullest hierarchy that you can create. The process of being creative is what a high concious genius individual does. Evolution has programmed you to make you feel good when you do things that increase organized conciousness or systems on some level like being creative causes new organization in your brain.

You can learn to be a genius by practicing being creative. One you've practiced being creative for a month or so, you can use your newly gained creative skill to accelerate the other areas of your personal development which will in turn let you become more creative.

Being in a state that is conductive to creativity means you've taken care of almost all aspects of your personal development, and that your hierarchy is as healthy as it can be.

Stress = bad feeling caused by having to transition to different trees of IRs that do not have a common root. You are doing too many unrelated things. Being Stressed has negative effects on learning (creating IRs). Google "effects of stress on learning"

Motivation = You always have a reason for everything that you do. This means whatever IR you are running is linked to your hierarchy and is not fragmented. Just think of "your reason" for doing something as the link that links the "something" to your main hierarchy, and so therefore you can follow a chain of reasons all the way up to your root purpose in life. (This is why it is so important to be constantly defining what that purpose is, or you'll never have motivation)

Fear = when your conciousness is focuses on a leaf IR in your hierarchy that does not have any sub IRs. The fear of the unknown. You can make the fear go away by filling in the missing IRs by defining and following your fears down the hierarchy by journaling for example.

Asking questions = opens up your subconcious mind to automatically finding the answers(like photofocus from photo reading) therefore as as many questions on paper as possible (I for example will ask myself 20 questions in about 3 minutes if I don't know something that I would like to learn about)

Being in a creative state of mind has prerequisites. The motivation of DNA to spread itself gives some inspiration of things that must be fulfilled like relationships, hunger, sex drive, (perhaps some other basic things), water [this one is sneaky, you often don't feel thirsty but you really are dehydrated so it makes you feel bad for some reason) and ability to master the environment through constant curiosity. If one of these is not satisfied, you cannot be in a creative state of mind. If you are lonely because you do not have a girl friend and are not social enough then you will not feel like being creative.

Evil is caused when hierarchy on some level in some system (social, relationships, country, organization, religion, family) is destroyed. Good is when hierarchy is created.

This explains why something may be "good" for one system and "bad" to another, and how its a spectrum of the two. Infinite amount of examples:
-An employee gets laid off: good for corporation, bad for his family
-Flip burgers at McDonalds: good for McDonalds, bad for individual if he is creative, good if it is his first job to gain experience
-Eat a cow: Good for human, bad for cow. Eat a plant, not as evil because its not as complex as a cow.
-Terrorism vs USA: USA is evil in eyes of terrorists because it swallows other systems up, terrorists are evil to USA because duh.
-Water is good because it sustains the hierarchies of life but slightly evil sometimes because it could drown you.
More about this here: Sin is relative to your system

Here's what we should go for:
Don't destroy the other systems, incorporate them into the bigger system. This applies to all levels and all systems, for example how to handle criticism, read my answer: How to handle criticism. Don't knock down the other's beliefs by stupidly arguing with them, just understand their viewpoint, and combine it with your own to create IRs in your mind that do even better than before.
This could apply to countries. They could fight each other for resources or they could combine to make a better system. However, it comes to the point that competition is useful because it rewards efficient use of resources so that resources are not wasted, though it would be better if the subsystems could restrict resource use.

Even better news, since everything is basically controlled by the top then you could just convince the upper levels.

[Mark Lapierre]

Hi Sunnybayes. I know this is just a summary, and to be edited, but I thought I'd offer a response (and some questions) anyway. Overall your posts are becoming more coherent. Good work, keep it up

Evolution strives for complexity as driven by various laws of physics.

In my understanding evolution doesn't strive for anything, that would require a desire; evolution is a process, not a driving force. (there's a similar statement further on in your post, once about evolution and another time about DNA) Secondly, by saying law of physics drive something, you imply that the laws control and direct. Again, in my limited understanding they only describe the operational parameters, they don't have any effect on them. So in all this sentence gives a very inaccurate impression of both evolution and the laws of physics. But it could just be that I don't understand it properly. Could you explain further?

A system exists because it is in a state that makes it probable to exists (it survives and we observe it because it is in a state that makes it easy to be observed, able to manipulate its environment to survive)

I'm not at all sure what you're trying to say here. To be probable the thing in question cannot exist. A thing either does not exist and is improbable or probable, or it does exist. It cannot be probable (i.e., likely to exist) and also existent.

Personal Development means learning how to become a genius or a high concious individual so that you can have the biggest and fullest hierarchy that you can create.

Does it? That's not how I'd define personal development. Did you mean that's how you see personal development; i.e., that's your goal?

Stress = bad feeling caused by having to transition to different trees of IRs that do not have a common root. You are doing too many unrelated things. Being Stressed has negative effects on learning (creating IRs). Google "effects of stress on learning"

This implies that holistic learning is counter-productive because it aims to create connections between disassociated webs of previously learned information, which according to what you've said causes stress. In reality the opposite is the case for those who practice it consistently.

Motivation = You always have a reason for everything that you do. This means whatever IR you are running is linked to your hierarchy and is not fragmented. Just think of "your reason" for doing something as the link that links the "something" to your main hierarchy, and so therefore you can follow a chain of reasons all the way up to your root purpose in life. (This is why it is so important to be constantly defining what that purpose is, or you'll never have motivation)

How do you think emotion is involved?

Fear = when your conciousness is focuses on a leaf IR in your hierarchy that does not have any sub IRs. The fear of the unknown. You can make the fear go away by filling in the missing IRs by defining and following your fears down the hierarchy by journaling for example.

As far as I'm aware the unknown is fearsome only if you fill in the unknown with the possibility of something dangerous. E.g., someone who is afraid of the dark is not truly afraid of the dark, they're afraid of what they think might be hidden in the dark. As another example, I have no idea what my date on Wednesday is really going to be like, but I'm looking forward to filling in those blanks. There are IRs missing, but I'm not scared. (ok maybe a little scared, not because I don't know how it will turn out, but because it might turn out bad).

[Sunnybayes]

New goal of mine is to avoid this:
and is also another motivation for me to make a consistent framework

from http://www.exergy.se/ftp/esm.pdf

Thus, the situation is clear. One may argue about details, such as how or when, but not that a culture based on resource depletion and environmental destruction is doomed. So, why is nothing done? Present science is mainly busy measuring how the catastrophe proceeds or busy defending present engineering. It also lacks perspective, scientists work inside “tubes”, without connection to other “tubes”. The outside world is often regarded as non-science or of no interest.Pirsig {3} calls it a “cultural immune system … First you say things our way and then we’ll listen to you”. The scientific society is somehow also caught in a situation of continuous apply for funding — survival — from governmental or industrial establishments. A paramount consideration for most scientists is funding, just as reelection is for most politicians. The
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1A modified version was published in JOURNAL OF HUMAN VALUES 3:2 (1997) Sage Publications New
Delhi/Thousand Oaks/London, pp. 193-206
2Nota bene, I am here referring to direct democracy, i.e. true democracy and not oligarchy.
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situation is also dangerous for science itself because science is ruled by non science. Science becomes valued by the size of the budget and managed by loyal “dollar scientists”. What government or institutional establishment will support critics? Very few, I am afraid. The situation inevitably brings prostitution to mind. Neither Darwin nor Einstein would have been funded by the present system. This is our problem. Few consider the reality. Morals are banned
by science, “morals have been declared intellectually illegal” {3} and lost in politics. The recent experiment by Sokal shows that the scientific society is also partly corrupted. A leading journal of cultural studies, Social Text, publishes ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if (a) it sounds good (b) it flatters the editors’
ideological preconceptions. {4} Thus, morals are also lost in science. All this creates an excellent environment for myths to flourish in society.

Our cultural myths hinder awareness, we are captives of “Mother Culture”. {5} Myths give a wrong picture of the reality which makes it hard to understand and improve real systems, the energy system is just but one example.[my comment: which is why the advertising for the 'The Secret' really pisses me off most of the time...]

In 1975 Alfvén {6} compared the energy accounting based on first law of thermodynamics,with a cashier counting cash only by the number of coins or notes, and neglecting their value. Energy planning is still based on first law accounting and limited to only pure energy resources, see Figure 2. {7} The diagram is more than 20 years old, but still represents present energy planning in the developed world. What would happen if a bank practiced “first law” accounting? I am sure it would be brought into court. However, when it concerns reality no one seems to care. The conclusion is that in our culture sometimes fiction based on myths is more important than truth. This also gives a reasonable explanation to why the present Western culture will end in a catastrophe, since it simply ignores basic tools of physics to establish and maintain vitality.By using the concept of exergy or the second law of thermodynamics, stated in the year 1824 by Carnot {8} the picture of Figure 2 will change dramatically, see Figure 5 below. {7}
However, let us first look closer to the concept of exergy and the second law of thermodynamics.

wow. That's a powerful statement.

The conclusion is that in our culture sometimes fiction based on myths is more important than truth. This also gives a reasonable explanation to why the present Western culture will end in a catastrophe, since it simply ignores basic tools of physics to establish and maintain vitality

But I'm guessing its just because noone can explain how to actually apply it, and noone has gotten a good word out about it.

[Sunnybayes]

So another update about absolutely needing social stimulation. I'll have to do some research on the internet to see if I can find some scientific papers to back this up.

In response to the question questions that I asked myself here:

So instead of going out clubbing, since my best friend was leaving to go back home to the states to go start work, I went to speak to him for two hours.

But by being social, I was in fact able to spur on another great burst of creativity. I'll have to experiment with this again. Either there was some kind of brain regulation going on inside of me, or it was just the fact that I had a break from thinking about this stuff that it did let me be more creative again. I'll have to try this again sometime... probably will be in two weeks or so before I come like this again. But I feel another drive in me to be more creative. I might be able to get the same effect from just going out walking alone for the same amount of time, but maybe I really did need to have the social stimulation.

Also that night when I was able to keep thing from 9pm to 5am was when I spent the whole day from 10:00am to 5:00pm doing karaoke and eating sushi with my friends...

I spent a good chunk of yesterday thinking about how to respond to mark's questions about the summary of this model.

I had some good insights, was in a awesome creative/synergetic phase ["synergetic" phase talked about in this post], and in the morning I felt burnt out and I started feeling bad for some reason. I have my life purpose all figured out and I know all of Steve's 33 tricks of productivity. But none of those tricks would have made me feel any better. I've always thought I knew how to be happy manually.

Then I reasoned it must have been because I had not thought about people or have gone out and talked about or been around any people at all.
So I just went out for a walk. Nothing felt different. It was nice to go outside, but still felt bad [not horribly bad, but defiantly not as happy as I know I can be]. Saw a hot chick walk by who had the most beautiful smile..., instantly felt a surge of feeling better. But still not in a great mood. Went to the train station to get out into the city to do some errands and get my china visa. Just being in the train with people and looking around I could feel myself just feeling better.

My conclusion?? Well, now I really consider being with and interacting with other people a fundamental thing.

If you start to feel depressed, its probably cause you've run out of social fuel. Don't let yourself back rationalize why things are bad and blame it on something else.

I'd almost relate it to a fuel and that you have a tank for it. I ran dry by being all introvert and creative, and so after a day or so, even though I was all rested up and was healthy, I started to feel bad for no apparent reason.

If I let myself think in thoughts, then I'd probably backwards rationalize with some made up reason why I was feeling bad and blame it on something else, when it was simply that I had not been paying attention to other people or been around other people. I my "social tank" just ran empty.

And I could feel that the quality of people you are around determine how well it fills up. When I paid attention to old sad people on the train, I barely felt my self any better. When I'd see a beautiful girl, it felt like it added like 5x much more to my tank. If she was smiling too then it was like 50x as much. And I'd image that if you cuddle with your girl friend then it would be like 500x as fast (depending on how much you actually like her)

I was not even talking to these people, just being on the same train with them. I suspect that having a nice long conversation with someone would fill it up just as fast.

Conclusion... if you are feeling bad and some degree of depression... its probably in part that your "social tank" is empty. How fast it fills up depends on the quality of what you send to your conciousness. I would think that if they were in a bad mood then it would probably empty it... though I have not tried that yet.

I remember once that I was feeling lonely, so I just took out my cell phone and for each name I'd spend about a minute or two thinking about the fun times I'd have with that person. When I got to the end, it was about an hour of just thinking of people. This really worked if I was just with them within the last 4 days or so, and is not as effective if you have to keep on using the same old memories. I just sent memories to my consciousness and that was enough to help fill the tank.

Here's another guess... I seem like I need to top it off like every 2 days or so if I'm in total isolation, and no thoughts of other people cross my conciousness. I'm not sure if watching TV helps with this, because I have not watched it for the last 4 months (which actually was a habit I started when I got into self hypnosis when I was in 8th grade... cause I could just feel the negativity just pulling me down, tough I do enjoy watching a comedy show or scifi show once a week)

I'll have to see if just listening to an audio book could help, or when I have access to a TV then watching that would help.

So here are some rough steps if you don't feel your peak.
Fill your social tank. Maybe it takes something like 4 hours of interaction to top it off, I don't know, perhaps it depends on the person as well. That will let you become happy and concentrate. Spend some of that time/fuel doing mandatory things. Spend some of that being creative to grow personally... it is incredibly fun experience while doing that, until your tank runs out, then things just start to seem bad for some reason or another, and your concious mind tries to make up and excuse or blame it on something. [edit: The reason I can tell is that I can operate without verbally thinking, so I don't let myself make up some logical excuse, though I still feel bad for even though it seems to be like there is no reason]

When your tank runs down, stop, have fun and refill.

I also remember on my trip to the Philippines over the Chinese new year I was with my two good friends constantly for 2 weeks strait. After the trip I felt like doing nothing but just thinking and reading for the next 2 weeks... so maybe its an additive process to some extent...

Also another thought, if your social tank is full, then, at least for me, people just start getting on my nerves. That's my signal to sit down, be introvert for a while, think about / update my life purpose, be creative and make things happen. Right now creativity for me means figuring out what I wrote at the top of this thread and writing here, and figuring myself out as I'm doing now.

So maybe that's what class is good for even if the professor is horrible, it will help to refill your tank, and you could just ignore the professor if he is bad and think about your own things. For college students, this probably doesn't become an issue... always out partying and such... but I know that at my school, especially if you are in the hard science and engineering and are really one of those nerds... then you have to watch yourself that you don't try to run on empty.

[Sunnybayes]

Hey guys. Just got back from traveling to Beijing.

As I've tried to unite everything, as I wrote up on the top of the thread, that lead me into defining systems, thermodynamics, sin, all that stuff... but then that lead me to find this website:

Human Intelligence

Then at the bottom he tells about an ebook that he is writing. Its about 1000 pages... and has just about everything that I was looking for with linking science to religion and life and learning how to be genius and stuff like that and relating it to global warming and the paradox of the US with the declining quality of life for Americans. And that website also gives a description of what it means to start thinking about your own thinking and learning what it "feels" like to think, and that if you feel your thinking inside your body in a certain way, like I've described in my introduction, then you'll learn how to think like a genius.

You just have to send an email with your name, and city, and then I got a link to download the book for free the next day.

I'm taking a dive into understanding that book. Not sure how long I'll be away from these forums. Maybe I'll his another huge flurry of writing post when new more high orders IRs come become more discrete, then I'll dump everything here again in this thread.

But anyway, if you find my thread not updated, and deep down in the forums where noone can find this, just post something like, "Wow I like this thread", if you find anything useful here in this thread, so that it jumps up to the top again where all the newbie posters can see it so that new newbies just don't dumbly come as ask the same questions over and over again. Because you know how lazy people are with actually trying to look up answers first, for example, those threads about wanting procrastination tips... Steve himself has written some good posts, and there have already been other threads that cover this, people are just too lazy to do a search. Maybe that should be a forum rule that you have to do a search first before posting a question. [edit: though I guess it is good sometimes to see solutions to the problems from different points of view....]

And considering procrastination in isolation just does not make sense, I hope you see that it depends on an entire system of things happening. Just like any problem of personal development, you've got to come an understand the whole system first besides just considering things in isolation, or you'll take it out of context and just wont see the reasons behind the advice and therefore won't have motivation to apply it. You've got to learn personal development "holistically", I guess this thread was my attempt at it.

But I've not define procrastination yet in this model so here a summary, it includes many of the concepts told about elsewhere in this thread.
So you've got this goal, like you've got a 100 page thesis due in 2 months. Here's why you don't start:
First you've got to do the transitions to start thinking about the paper and spend energy installing new habits of thinking about the paper every day.
-You'll really start to feel nervous and start to fear it after a day or two since you've got no clue what its going to be about... missing IRs.
-And if you don't have a strong life purpose then you'll have no intellectual motivation to start on it, it will just seem pointless, especially if some external system that has its own purpose is forcing you to do it, like your company or your school work.
-And fear of not getting a perfect grade and of failing will cause analysis paralysis, so you blame it on your perfectionism.
-And then once you are forced to start on it because its due the next day, you'll absolutely hate it because of all the physical pain that you have to go through because of all the transitions that you are forcing your brain to go through in such a short amount of time.
-And then after you've started working on it, and you are approaching your deadline, then the flight or flight response kicks in as you fear what will happen if you don't finish it and you no longer have analysis paralysis because you are more worried about just having anything to turn in, so you don't really care about turning in junk, and you are flying by the seat of your pants to get it done.
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any way.

I don't know, I feel like I have my personal development basically figured out now, its just a matter of taking the effort and pain of installing habits, I've got a good life outline system going, I know how to watch my upper level mental habits/thinking/algorithm, and I recognize that I have to keep them refreshed and take the effort to maintain them or else they'll just decay just like any physical system will if the energy is not taken to maintain it [entropy takes over]. And that I occasionally have to do meditation to defrag and converge my hierarchy when I notice that I don't have that back ground happiness in me. Also that I have to watch my water and social "tanks" because those are the ones that are just sooo sneaky that you just start to feel bad for some reason and that you'll blame it on something else that's not really it. And that I'd also define a "life purpose tank" because I find that it often gets outdated about every month or so... and that seems to correspond with my cycles of having huge creative bursts, and then I feel burnt out cause I have to start build up more high order IRs and to link them link them to my life purpose so that I can take huge action again.

So I feel like I might start taking a different focus now. Like learning external leadership, cause I've think I've got the internal leadership pretty well mastered. I think. I need to learn how to be more of a dark worker. I define being a light worker as someone who lets the external system influence the internal system (taking in external knowlege to be creative), and a dark worker as someone who lets the internal system influence the external system (exporting that creativity, to make money for example). I guess there are other ways of defining it also. Take a look at Steve's blog post for how he defines it.

Oh yea, and the reason that the tone in this post seems a little sad is because I let my social tank run dry so I'm feeling lonely. It defiantly seems like an additive process, was with two friends who are girls on my trip to Beijing for 4 days, and I was able to be "synergetic" or creative [and highly energetic and full of happy life] for 4 days after that until now. Right now I'm just exporting IRs that have already become burned into my subconcious so it does not take much energy for me to write this. And also, I listened to a podcast on leadership, it felt like the guy's voice helped to refill my "social tank" so that made me feel better so I could have some motivation to add this last paragraph.

Any way cheers :-)

[Sunnybayes]

Ok. So I think I'm going to decide to make just enough money to live a happy life, and have as much fun as possible, and show others how to escape just as well.

I say this because saving the world by making money, I don't know, does not seem like it would help. Making money is part of the system. You can't solve a problem if you are part of the system.... or maybe you can... I'd have to think about this some more.

[Sunnybayes]

Oh yea... just wanted to put this here to remind myself what it feels like to get knocked off your saddle and you think you've got some awesome idea and direction, and then you see someone else already doing it.... in short, in the natural world that's when you'd get pissed off and try to start a fight with the another guy, a natural competition of a consistent set of beliefs and skills... and then you can't help but have bad thoughts and get pissed off at the other guy so you lose motivation... just nature's way of making sure that noone is doing the exact same thing, and is where you have to decide if you want to be smug or absorb the other person's work and do something better and move in a different direction, and where you have to come up and update your life purpose again and it takes a while to do that, but you've got to do or or you'll just sink and lose productivity.

and this is condensed but I don't want to spend any more time on this. i just remember i wrote that in my journal about 2 months ago and that when it happened to me i could just feel it eating up my mind and that i felt bitter for about 15 minutes but i decided i'd continue anyway, but that I had to learn new information ask more questions and be more creative to continue.

[Sunnybayes]

Lol. I just found out that in this model, I basically rederived everything that Steve's already said here:
Meaning of Life Series.

I was brough to write this after read Steves seeming bias.

hehe. talk about a newbie not reading steve's blog :-), and being impatient to read a whole book of information..., and not caring to reread information..., and not being able to relate to information if you are not at the same level of conciousness then it all seems like useless spiritual mumbo jumbo, and that you've got to build your reader up to your level, and seeing how most everyone is not at the level of love then to just about everyone it does not make too much sense or contribute much value therefore structure is probably more important than content or presentation...

and also shows THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A SUMMARY... so that it gives the reader a reason to go through all that information, because the summary will make him curious to read, and do a mental checklist of the things that he's learned, and then after he's read all of it, then he can go back and remind himself 100x faster of what he's supposed to be doing..., and that he'll mentally start asking questions of "what does that mean?" and those questions are awesome motivation to learn more, and opens up the subconscious mind so that the information flows in more smoothly, and gives the mind expectation of what information it is about to receive so that it does not produce the pain of transitions...

I need to do this for myself, cause I know that I'm going to eventually forget everything else I've written here.

but we both came to basically the same conclusions independently, so it must be true...

But I think I'll still translate all those pages into more of physics and try to derive what heaven means in terms of physics, but I think it basically means the state that will allow us to continue to live well and happy into the heat death of the universe trillions of years down the road, assuming we don't cause a climate tipping point that fries us, or some other catastrophe...

here's something else that I wrote down in my journal, if this makes sense to anybody, its way out of context, but it might relate to someone.

what's the point? to live the most optimized life? would the most optimized life be the best one? would you have to change your structure of your brain to optimize the goodness, just so that it grew into a controlling crystal? what does it mean for an atom to be happy? what does it mean for a molecule to be happy? a cell to be happy? to be recognized? to be able to be recognized by something else? to be observed? to be controlled? to be wave collapsed? to have free will means to be observed by something else and sees that you are acting randomly? to be happy means to be wave collapsed? dude. that's bonkers. to exists in this universe? that of push and pull? yes, I'm deriving heaven. to be conscious means to have control and to be happy means to be observed. to be conscious means to be doing wave collapsing while to be happy means to be wave collapsed and observed and controlled. so perhaps heaven is the ultimate control and it makes us happy by being observed by... god?

and so hell, I guess would be being left out of heaven with pure isolation and loneliness as the universe expands towards heat death.

yea sounds nuts, and well... I could write a book from that paragraph, but basically builds off these concepts:

-information is what happens when a quantum wave collapses, or observation is made
-god knows everything, is all knowing, therefore has all information, and therefore is all controlling, like corporations with their huge databases
-god can observe you but you can't observe god like a cell of your body can't observe you, but you can observe a cell
-you having concious makes all the cells happy, because your conciousness keeps your body and those cells alive
-the universe works in relationships and systems of quarks->neutrons/photons->atoms->molecules->cells->tissues->organs->person->familty->various organizations of society
-a wave collapse happens when the system is observed
-a wave collapse moves the evolving system into an "eigenstate" that does not change, therefore observing a system makes you control it,
-conciousness only happens when communication happens
-having conciousness means having control, we are concious so we have control of our bodies
-having control means predicting something, you can predict a system after you have observed it because you made it collapse into a non changing eigenstate
-the audio book "your body is your subconcious mind" tells how emotions are linked to chemicals, and that cells communicate to each other through "molecules of emotion" so that provides a concept of how cells can be "happy"
-good and evil is dependent on your system
-that I could only be happy when I receive recognition or I am social with other people, or in a relationship
-that living a happy life makes you more likely to live and to be observed
-information is not really "physical", it is metaphysical, its not dependent on the matter that represents it.

- some other concepts that I learned but are now subconcious, so they lead me to those statements, but I forgot what concepts I used to get there, like evolution, information theory, synergy, thermodynamics, creativity, leadership, bible quotes, ect. ect...

- An article from MIT, Information and the control bits of chaos
-How the bible was written

I've enjoy pondering that one

[Sunnybayes]

HOW NOT TO BE A HEADLESS CHICKEN.

This is based on what I have observed in myself over the last few months.

Here's the advice in a few drawn out sentences:
Close your eyes,"meditate, don't think about anything in particular, just let your mind spin around ideas and visualize objects and play the "it reminds me of game" with the visual images, to get your right brain woken up again, if your feel your eyes naturally wanting to go back and forth, almost like in REM sleep then you are doing it right.

If you do this for 30 minutes, then you get 30 minutes worth of effective taking action / no-pain-of-transitions/ kick-ass / stuff-makes-sense/ you-can-do-or learn-anything-that-is-"new"-study-time. I'll call this your "ON" tank because I used to think that it was just being social that filled it, but I've discovered that you can fill it up like I described above. Though, that way is not quite as fun, nor quite as effective, but good enough if you can't find people to be social with, [seeing how we isolate our fat-assed-quite-cold-though-quite-polite-and-nice selves sooo well here in America, with our inefficient-oil-sucking-isolating houses and cars in our grand suburbia (yea, that was my culture shocked self speaking after returning from abroad)]

Its an additive process.

I don't know why its an additive process, I've just measured this consistently with a stop watch and I find it to be true repeatedly. When I do it for 10 minutes or like 3 hours (usually I go into sleep by then)

Its funny cause I'm like.... "damn it... I've only got 20 minutes left before I turn into a headless-running-around/low-concious/losing-my-free-will/hard-to-take action/having-to-do-stupid-productivity-tricks/ADHD/Obsessive-compulsive-disordered/unable-to-focus/unable-to-sleep/ procrastinating/not-able-to-escape-subconcious-mental-patterns/depressed-isolated-mindless-non-creative zombie... I'd better hurry up and get stuff done quick before that happens!!!

And then when that time runs out, it is soooo subtle, your concious mind is not aware of this [your left talkative mind that is...] because this process CONTROLS your concious mind and CONTROLS your level of conciousness..., but when it runs out everything all of the sudden becomes hard to think about things and you instantaneously begin to get distracted easily, and your mind stops taking in information. Well it takes in information, it forms invariant representations, but it does not link them well into associations, so you can read just fine, but that you need to refill your "ON" tank for the information to be linked to everything else so that it "makes sense" and not just some fragmented, easy be forget facts.

If you are out for 5 hours with your friends, then you 5 hours worth of this time immediately afterwards. If you are at working with your colleagues and you are thinking hard while you are around them, then this "ON" tank is burned up immediately so there is none leftover after wards.

If you try and do something productive and creative or try to think about something challenging when your "ON" tank is empty, then man... its the biggest waste of time ever, you'll be spinning your wheels working hard but getting nowhere at all and your left talking mind will be thinking "what the hell is wrong with me" and your right mind will be asleep from boredom.

If you are really strapped for time, you don't have to go through all these post, but when you do have some free time, then go through them. They'll give you a good perspective. I just wanted to link these so that you'd have a reason to believe the advice that I'll give you.

These are all from the same thread:

This one is about creativity. This is how your brain makes new knowlege and connections.

Something is not quite right.

How it is hard to take action.

Being with my friend let me be smart again.

How creativity links together all PD concepts.

I really, really need social stimulation to be able to think well and be creative to make new knowlege.


This post tells the book where I got my knowlege about the left and right brain. The book is called "Knowing".

There are tonnes of awesome concepts in that book (its 1000 pages), but the one that really tied my understanding together is that there are two minds in your head. The left and right brain. The "Knowing" book provides good evidence that they are basically independent. It told about how people who had a epilepsy had their connection between the two half cut, called the corpus collopsum, but I'll just call it brain bridge for better visualization, and abbreviate it with BB. The BB is how the two halves communicate with each other.

Any way, there was one guy who had his brain bridge cut surgically. The weirdest thing happened to him, his left hand tried to strangle him while his right hand tried to keep his left hand from doing so. Basically like there was two people in his head, fighting each other. And the author gives several other documented examples of this. You'll have to download that book if you don't believe me. The left brain is the one that can talk because it has your language centers. It has analytical intelligence like with time and mathematics. The right brain has spacial intelligence and it better at considering everything in wholes, it is better at being social, like recognizing people's faces and listening to music.

IT TAKES BOTH HALVES TO BE CREATIVE AND COOPERATIVE AND TO BE ABLE TO LEARN INCREDIBlY FAST AND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE MASSIVE FRICTIONLESS ACTION QUICKLY.

That's the key. You can't just favor one side of the brain all the time or the other one just gets bored and shuts down. Usually its the right brain that gets shut down because the left side is more dominating, and because it is the talking you. That's why I was always like "Well, I feel bad but I don't really have a clue why". It was my right brain/mind/self that was feeling non stimulated and depressed, but my left mind was all cool beans.

When your "ON" tank is empty, the two halves don't cooperate with each other. So you'll just want to stimulate one side or the other. Like you'll just want to read for 5 hours to stimulate your left brain (which leads to a fragmented mind... and I'll have to explain in another post about this and leads to the babbling, constantly-talking/doesn't-know-how-to-shut-up/ can't go to sleep - insomniac mind), or that all of the sudden I just have un unbelievable urge to just get up and dance, because my musical right brain decides it wants to be in control and be stimulated, and then begins wondering around the house aimlessly (like a chicken that's had its head cut off but is still able to flap around the farm because its spinal cord is smart enough to know how to move (got this from the Brain and Behavior Book))..., but then my left mind starts to feel guilty that its not getting things done and so insists on stopping the dancing, but then doesn't really get anything done because it is not synchronized.

REM SLEEP (this is my idea, maybe someone else says this too, but I've not looked) is when the two halves "synchronize" and merge realities and converge and learn to cooperate and know the same facts so that instead of competing with each other, they're working together, so they are pushing in the same direction.

Anyway, here are some more strange observations that I've had. Our minds are formed in a heirarchy. Near the top of the heirarchy is where high level abstractions can take place and where associations are made. If you become concious of the feelings inside your head, if you go into a good relaxation, and remove all the tension from your limbs, then what is left is the concious sensation like around your eyes and your nose.

This means your conciousness has shifted from the lower end of the heirarchy, your limbs, and is completely focused near the top of the heirarchy where it feels like the top of the eyes. I talk about this more in my introduction. Introduction. I'm not sure, but I think Erin like to call this here third sense, or her third eye, or her higher self. One of those I think, I've only recently started reading her blog so I could learn some of the language that people are more familiar with, but I'm defiantly not a psychic, or maybe I am and I just don't know it and I don't like the mysticism stuff.