Which memory programs have you guys tried?

[missbhaven]

I'm looking to try a memory program. I plan to save up some money and do it since I feel I'll have a bit of time on my hands coming up.
I've seen that some here have done different programs but, hell, there are a lot out there.
I was interested if any of you could break down the different systems you have tried, and maybe I could choose the one I feel suits my learning type.

I see there is a lot in another topic about pmemory but only Brutha has talked about the Paul Scheele one. Could you elaborate a bit on how his program worked?

I'd appreciate any feedback. Why you feel it worked, or didn't work, for you at least. What areas you think this system/program would work best for (Some maybe be better for reading rather than say learning a language or playing an instument.)

[Solipsist]

I can't remember

(sorry, I just couldn't avoid that one. Carry on)

[Curtis2011]

Originally Posted by missbhaven

I'm looking to try a memory program. I plan to save up some money and do it since I feel I'll have a bit of time on my hands coming up.
I've seen that some here have done different programs but, hell, there are a lot out there.
I was interested if any of you could break down the different systems you have tried, and maybe I could choose the one I feel suits my learning type.

I see there is a lot in another topic about pmemory but only Brutha has talked about the Paul Scheele one. Could you elaborate a bit on how his program worked?

I'd appreciate any feedback. Why you feel it worked, or didn't work, for you at least. What areas you think this system/program would work best for (Some maybe be better for reading rather than say learning a language or playing an instument.)

Hi. I *tried* the pmemory system but ended up quitting :/

But, it is a great system. In fact, it is probably the best system in the entire world. When they say they teach you how to memorize entire books, or a list of 100 complex equations, or 1000 names and phone numbers, they aren't kidding.

One Pmemory guy wanted a job as a professional waiter at a 5-star restaurant, so he went onto their website where they have their menu. He memorized the entire menu, every item, every description and every price, then got an interview there and literally just told them he could recite their entire menu by memory and that it only took him a couple days to memorize it perfectly. They ended up hiring him on the spot.

That is just one example of pmemory in use. The system works. It just takes dedication and patience to actually finish the lessons.

[machoman]

Originally Posted by missbhaven

I'm looking to try a memory program. I plan to save up some money and do it since I feel I'll have a bit of time on my hands coming up.
I've seen that some here have done different programs but, hell, there are a lot out there.
I was interested if any of you could break down the different systems you have tried, and maybe I could choose the one I feel suits my learning type.

I see there is a lot in another topic about pmemory but only Brutha has talked about the Paul Scheele one. Could you elaborate a bit on how his program worked?

I'd appreciate any feedback. Why you feel it worked, or didn't work, for you at least. What areas you think this system/program would work best for (Some maybe be better for reading rather than say learning a language or playing an instument.)

well, Iam using pmemory course.( I finished 5 lessons) If you want to improve your memory WITHOUT a lot of work, then you could try out some books written by Harry Loraine and Dominic O'Brien. It gives you some methods that works for the short term.

But if you want concrete results and want to remember information for a lifetime, then pmemory is the only course you have to take.

My experience is that it took me nearly 7 hours just to finish lesson 1 other lessons took me 3-4 hours each.
Though the exercises look "simple", remembering after doing the exercises is one of the toughest things I have ever did with my mind And effects of all this work? Applied the system and got an A in one of my subjects where I would usually fail.

And , I do have the memory optimizer course by paul scheele but its not a "memory" course really. Its contains only general tips and ideas that you can find freely in the net if you search for it.

[NSS]

School of phenomenal memory works really good for me. I'm only on lesson 5 and I can already see how it works.

All criticism of the school I can see is about some old refund policy but if you just do the lessons and work with the instructors you won't need a refund.

[SatvikBeri]

Originally Posted by NSS

School of phenomenal memory works really good for me. I'm only on lesson 5 and I can already see how it works.

All criticism of the school I can see is about some old refund policy but if you just do the lessons and work with the instructors you won't need a refund.

There's a lot of criticism about their marketing methods too-they have basically used spam to market the course.

That said, from my research the Pmemory course itself definitely seems legitimate. It's just the peripherals, like the refund and marketing, that are sketchy.

[missbhaven]

Well based on the work that you guys have done. What evidence do you see in your life with your memory? Are their strange feats you've accomplished?
I've noticed some memory sites say you'll be able to remember things just by skimming threw it?


Is there anyone who has completed a full memory course? Not just pmemory.

Would photoreading also be considered a memory program?

As a child I had no problems reading and could tell you a lot of what happened in the book, but things contextually I wouldn't get. As long as I could take what I read at face value, I would get it. Hence why I think a lot of teachers rated my comprehension levels so low. (an example would be animal farm, a surface level read is different from an analytical look)

Are these systems mostly good for simple route memorization?
Like (after completing the course), if I walked into bookstore and picked up an interesting cookbook, I would have any recipe memorized and stored away in my brain for months before I could actually use it.

[Sain Outre Longfang]

....does sudoku count?

[Curtis2011]

Originally Posted by missbhaven

Would photoreading also be considered a memory program?

Photoreading isn't the same thing. The photoreading systems that claim you can flip through a page in a book in one second and have it memorized are likely just lying to you. There are speed-reading courses that can help improve your reading speed, but they don't help you memorize the material.

Originally Posted by missbhaven

Are these systems mostly good for simple route memorization?
Like (after completing the course), if I walked into bookstore and picked up an interesting cookbook, I would have any recipe memorized and stored away in my brain for months before I could actually use it.

Based on what I've seen from pmemory, you could turn to the back of a 1000 page textbook to the glossary, and use the memory system to memorize the definitions of every word in the glossary if you wanted to. You can also memorize them in order, and be able to recall them forwards and backwards, or starting from the middle, etc. Same thing with long numbers. If you wanted to memorize all of the names and phone numbers in your phone in alphabetical order, you could do that too.

And yes, you can store stuff like recipes away in your brain. Generally once you memorize it you need to review it in your memory a few times over the next week or two to solidify it, but it is pretty "solid" in your memory if you memorized it correctly. You could memorize 100 complicated recipes and their ingredients and remember them 6 months from now if you wanted to.

Once you know "how" to memorize, there is no limit to how much you can actually memorize. You just have to put in the mental effort, which can be quite taxing.

[Trustme]

Yes those systems work and they are quite powerful.

But take the example with the recipes. Why would you want to do that? You could get a simple iphone app to store your recipes. Ok - maybe you lose your iphone. Well, make a backup. Maybe you get into a situation where you need to cook but don't have your iphone? Sure. This could happen - but would you really want to invest hundrets of hours to learn a system and dozens of hours to "store" the recipes in your mind because you expect something like that will happen and you want to be prepared?

So the question is - what can you do with a system like that you cannot do with a far easier technological solution. Don't forget - it's still a storage thing. You encode and decode information. It's not like you simply "know" the data. You have to retrieve it.

I am looking into how I can apply the system to study faster for tests. Mainly mathematics. My thought goes into the direction of first encoding the information and then using the internal database to study the material. Lookup is done in the memory database as well - not in the textbook. This could save time and make studying a lot more efficient. But it's just a thought right now - I didn't actually do it.

[missbhaven]

Dude Trustme....
1. I'm a chef, it's my career. You have no idea how many recipes of chocolate cake alone I've seen. They all start to blur together. Every new place I work at, every season, I go threw even more new recipes. I hate having tonnes of lil notebooks from different places scattered over the place.
2. Don't you eat EVERYDAY? Why not memorize recipes. Or you want to break out a cookbook or your phone each and every time?
3. I don't have a phone let alone an Iphone... I've thought of getting one... but really I haven't has as many miagrianes since I stopped owning one. Also, the technology is just a crutch, a replacement to the notebook. I would like to be able to say I want to make this cake today, and simply write it down. It won't matter if I am at work, home, or on vacation visiting family.

[Curtis2011]

Originally Posted by Trustme

It's not like you simply "know" the data. You have to retrieve it.

Well, once you memorize it you can retrieve it within a few seconds or less.

It is true, we have technology now that allows us to put everything into our phones and laptops, etc.

But you won't become a 5-star chef if you have to read every recipe out of a laptop, or have to Google what spices go with what meats, etc.

Also, if you want to go through university, the teachers sure as hell won't let you use your phone to retrieve data. The whole point of learning in a university is to "know" the information, not to teach you how to write it into a phone or Google it.


Also, you are correct that memorizing saves time in the long run, if the material is something you need to use often. It can take several minutes searching on Google for information, or searching through a text file. But once you memorize it, you can access it all within a few seconds.

Originally Posted by missbhaven

Dude Trustme....
1. I'm a chef, it's my career. You have no idea how many recipes of chocolate cake alone I've seen. They all start to blur together. Every new place I work at, every season, I go threw even more new recipes. I hate having tonnes of lil notebooks from different places scattered over the place.
2. Don't you eat EVERYDAY? Why not memorize recipes. Or you want to break out a cookbook or your phone each and every time?
3. I don't have a phone let alone an Iphone... I've thought of getting one... but really I haven't has as many miagrianes since I stopped owning one. Also, the technology is just a crutch, a replacement to the notebook. I would like to be able to say I want to make this cake today, and simply write it down. It won't matter if I am at work, home, or on vacation visiting family.

Good points!

The pmemory or any other memory system is simply what it is: If you want to learn how to memorize things, then use them. If not, then don't use them.