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Hey! Great insight. This is good advice. Now I will provide another. This makes perfect sense in my model Read this posting here first: Dictionary of words, and then for more understanding the entire thread. In that little dictionary I define invariant representations, hierarchy, motivation, goals, and focus in a more precise manner. "The key difference is Mary focus on the process. She is focusing on the pain of pulling herself out of bed to go for a jog." She is making an invariant representation that is fragmented from her main hierarchy, i.e. she does not give any motivation to it. Therefore she has to waste so much energy in her brain to build it up enough. "focus on the process." which is, in her mind, is to create several fragmented invariant representations that are not linked together to a higher order invariant representation, i.e., get up, get dressed, put on shoes, shower, which independently are very far from the highest level goals of humans as defined in this post: Do we all have the same goal "On the other hand, Jane focuses on the end result that she wants." This girl, on the other hand, is creating an invariant representation that links onto the higher order invariant representation i.e. "end result", an invariant representation that is linked higher to the built in goals of humans. "the great figure her friends are praising her for losing those kilos" = sexier figure = sex = replication of DNA. Therefore the brain provides automatic motivation for that. Last edited by Sunnybayes; 04-19-2007 at 04:17 PM. |
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It's funny Jane's motivation is externally oriented after all. I explained earlier in this thread how and why I'm going about this. Short version: my ultimate goal is to cultivate more self-discipline period. The very definition of self-discipline is to take action despite the bitching self-dialogue and the boohoo emotions experienced at that moment. So in sunnybayes terms my invariant representation that gets me going is the increase of self-discipline itself. I'll take process orientation over outcome orientation any time. Thanks for your posts. April 20 - Day 32 I also noticed that if a day like today my internal conversation changed into, "hey I can do a quick 30 mins real quick" which is actually a great result because my ultimate goal here was to be able to take on a task. today was a succesful one again. No biggy. I still haven't finished my actual course yet so Im taking this weekend off and next monday will be the new first day. 45 minutes everyday and I'm going to take weekends off. 20x 45 minutes that is. Im also going to report my workout stuff that I've already been doing for a month straight actually just becuase it'll help me pump my state. Days Accoplished? 1 Yes 2 No 3 No 4 No 5 No 6 No 7 No 8 No 9 Yes 10 Yes 11 Yes 12 Yes 13Yes 14Yes 15No 16Yes 17Yes 18No 19Yes 20Yes 21No 22Yes 23Yes 24Yes 25Yes 26No 27No 28Yes 29Yes 30No 31Yes 32Yes So I took action 60% of my allotted time. Which is Kinda OK. still it's more leaning towards "come on, dude!" rather than "way to go, dude!" Now mind you that aiming for 70% is out of the question. 110% is technically possible for the next challenge. In a nutshell the next challenge is going to contain a report of the workout when Applicable. Mission statement for my next 30 day challenge (does not equal 30 dail TRIAL!) To study 45 mins a day during the 5 workday of the weeks that are contained in the 30 days that the challenge is scheduled in. The dates of those 30 days = Starting on monday april 23 until Tuesday May 22nd. Every weekday of those 30 days will contain a report of whether I studied 45 minutes or not. Every monday, wendesday and friday should report my visits to the gym. Last edited by Sworn; 04-20-2007 at 09:55 PM. |
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i am a new member ! i just read through ur forum and i found a lot of common areas is what u are doing with what i am doing too! can we be friends? i think to stay motivated , it is very important to find a group of friends and motivate each other. I dont really got too much of friend that can motivate each other . I hope to find more in this web site!!! maybe we can try to be friends and try to give each other comments ! what do u think ? lol i also starts a thread named " Hi . new member . Weekly progress report" maybe u can also dropby some comments for me when u free!! i really appreciate that!seeya dude and keep up the hard work!! can mail me at taitouwah@yahoo.com |
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hey dude, when i first read i been thinking , will it be too ambitous ? cause i try to want to conquere every aspect of my life at once, but i dont think it works , because human are just simply lazy. If want to change so drastically will it be difficult? cause i try before and i fail. After few days then dont feel like doing it already. Therefore, my thinking now is that if we had set the right target , we wont feel like dont do it . My weekly target is also set on moderate to be acheive target to i can get use to it. The most important thing i think is not to spoil the appetite of doing it!! any ways its my comment , just try to make it as a reference ! I once tried before to jot down every hour i did what and everyday i want to achieve a few target such as do gym , wake up early , sleep early , eat good ,study, cannot watch tv , no computer . But man , its not easy. This is because original version of me ( the normal ) me is on kind of autopilot mode , the normaly me is lazy , watch tv , go cyber care waste time, play computer game , surf net , eat junk food. So , how is it possible for me to change so sudden?? i think steve pavlina also never change so drastically in his life , he also start slow and bit by bit! So dude, dont spoil ur appetite to carry on , unless u feel confortable with the plan!! hear from you soon!! | |
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Hey taitouwah Thaks for the love man, Looks like you're serious about this too and you're absolutely right that keeping track of eachother is helpful., though not essential. But still, I'll take a peek at your thread soon and hit you up with a comment or two As for today April 23 - Day 1 I started my excercise 1:40 am and stopped 2:25 am pretty late, but counts. The first ten minutes I was kindof like - holy crap 35 more minutes of THIS!?!? but eventually the mental immersion set with the occasional loss of concentration though but still nothing out of the ordinary might even say some narrowing down on the mental digression even. Too early to judge though Physical training today: All good. 25 mins of cardio running and also my full body workout at the gym was fine. |
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| April 24 - Day 2 So Taitouwah - now I think of it, thanks for warning me against aiming too high but I'm fine. Im not posting this thread because I'm looking for advice. I'm posting this because it is part of my motivation to grow gradually and compare experiences and learn from eachother. I said it before and ill quote myself: "I explained earlier in this thread how and why I'm going about this. Short version: my ultimate goal is to cultivate more self-discipline period. The very definition of self-discipline is to take action despite the bitching self-dialogue and the boohoo emotions experienced at that moment. So in sunnybayes terms my invariant representation that gets me going is the increase of self-discipline itself. I'll take process orientation over outcome orientation any time. " You need the amount of pain - yet you need to have fun in the process. the pain = progress thats what makes the pain fun for me. figure out whatever level you're at and accept it. I for one am at quite a low level. I cant be bothered with that anymore. I want to experiment and see what gives. Its called learning from experience. I have debated too much about these concepts in the past and find it a waste of time in my short life. THATS why this thread is on. The 45 minutes are quite heavy for me personally actually, which is good because I know im pushing my limits thus growing. Today I really fluctuated heavily between doing my alotted task and zoning out. Thank god im also doing something productive and can see how much I did by looking at what I've written down, which is actually not that bad alltogether. 2out of 20 - woohoow Last edited by Sworn; 04-24-2007 at 12:51 PM. |
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| April 25 - Day 3 The realisation of how severely I have been mentally masturbating on forums and geeking out on self help books is growing daily now I've been on these challenges. OTOH, the mental masturbation has taken me to the point that I've had it with all the thoery and analysing and started taking action based on that mental masturbation. That mental masturbation in its turn provided me with great knowledge to take action. So it's all good. So if I seem mean to you when I cut off the unsolicited advice and everything in this thread: don't take it personally. I just reckon in counterproductive to go into a debative reasoning about it. Not to mention my 45 minutes I nailed them and I really feel the gravity pull but I have to say the feeling after the 45 mins is already worth it 3 out of 20 so far ..... |
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| April 26 - Day 4 Thanks very much taito There goes one day without following through damnit. Oh well even the working out skipped and passed without happening boohoo Picking up the thread .... Its gonna be OK .... Soon .... Consider it done |
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| April 29 - Day 5 Allright so I noticed that the one thing that stands me in the way most when I don't follow through is that people will call me up to hang out or my girlfriend wants to hang out or even I want my girlfriend to hang out longer and I can't assert my need to do my 45 minutes of powerpoint. the other day a friend of mine shared how ridiculous he found my endeavors to do those 45 minutes and basically how pathetic it comes across to do that challenge and how other people laugh at me behind my back. He's an intelligent guy who's doing experimental psychology and he knows where my weak spots are trust me. Here is where advice or ideas how to deal with that are well appreciated. This is heavy shyte for shure goddamnit.... so thats 3 out of 5 so far. Lets keep the ratio high here.... As for training: I did my powertraining today but I did skip one day this week so thats a 2 out of 3 so far. Last edited by Sworn; 04-28-2007 at 07:56 PM. |
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| 28 april - Day 5 II So Im basically using the days in the weekend to make up for the ones that I dropped during the week. Which brings me back to 4 out of 5 does that look like cheating to anyone? Last edited by Sworn; 04-28-2007 at 07:55 PM. |
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| April 29 - Day 5 recup So this is a pretty good system I found a way to enjoy the process better for this time. Not getting into it. I even split my assignment into two pieces 1 piece of 30 mins 1 of 20 too late and too tired to explain later |
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| april 30 - Day 6 some days the challenge feels like a joke. Today was one of those days Nailed the 45 mins like a motherfokker. Also working out was full of zest and juice and hornyfulness happy, happy! Last edited by Sworn; 04-30-2007 at 11:21 PM. Reason: punctuaction and choosing smileys wisely is what this post has gotten me into a little bit |
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Congratulations on having achieved to this stage, Sworn! Did you realise how far you've come? ave you checked back to the time when you first gave yourself this challenge? Think back... to the day you told yourself you'll take up this challenge... what was the environment around you... how did you feel... close your eyes and recall... remember the smells around you There have been tough times between... there definitely have been fantastic times also! Before you know it, you would have achieved you goal! I celebrate you for the success that you've achieved thus far! Press on, and keep the fighting spirit! --------------- Kayceezharold The World Thru Kayceez Eyes My Success Plan for Personal Development |
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thanks very much karen and kaycee, your words are very encouraging. Yes I have looked at have looked at the beginning of this thread every so often. I love the effect of scrolling through it. May 7 - Day 11 So this is the first real weekend "off" and the challenge would feel kind of lost. Thank God I learned to reframe it as one of the very moments discipline is decided so I did it anyway. I must say the pull towards taking the easy road and calling it a day vanished quickly. I'm pretty sure that's new. on the other hand I missed out on 2 days of working out. Last friday and today. Today I dont have the means provided but last friday was the result of Bad Planning. So this reminds me of planning. Keeping this journal helps too. Its great. All Hail the internet. |
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| May 8 Day 12 Did some mighty fine nice studying of powerpoint. Its been a couple of days since I posted my progres so I cant remember the details. Therefore I'm giving that day 0,5%. May 9 Day 13 Im pretty sure I skipped today. Reason: Bad Planning. My planning really really sucks. This is a major sticking point. I need to go nowhere without my backpack with some pen and paper in it so I can record stuff I do during the day and review my plan as I go. I did go to the gym thank god. I even went without having my food digested properly because otherwise I wouldnt have made it to the gym. May 10 Day 14 Powerpoint was pretty smooth noticing that my memory is gaining a little bit of power. That felt good and like a nice reward and a sign that im on to something. |
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| May 12 - Day 15 No powerpoint BUT great trainingsession at the gym. note to self - Definately start again when u lost momentum. Just start all over again man trust that the momentum comes back quick because IT DOES May 13 - makeup day Show the fekup Like today, its past midnight and had to really quick engage in my powerpoint schemas before I went to bed. But it's enough to keep showing up. more note to self: - SHOW UP. 2007 is the year of SHOWING UP. |
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hey sworn.. i was just thinking ..would you be interested in progress challenge ? im trying to do a progress link too..but it IS hard to maintain interest in goals .. when there is so much more to do .. what do you think ? we could set goals for each thing..and see how much we get done.. in a competitive fun spirit.. ofcourse !! it doesnt work for everyone.. it may dishearten u..in which case we dont have to do ...but if you think it'll help.. do you want to give it a go... ? |
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Haha Celibate Im doing fine with that but you're right. Things used to be different and I can definately notice the difference. Thank god there's pd and pu Just a quick note to keep me involved: I exchanged my last week of studying for motivated purposedriven househunting with great results. Working out worked fine as well. It's getting tougher now and very testy as in sticking to it. Ill post more later since I have to go now. |
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