School of Phenomenal Memory??

[Brutha]

Is there any way to go back and edit a post?

No.

It would be nice if he would allow a credible person to test his memory in person (like at a memory championship) and see what he can really accomplish.

Memorizing 52 cards in under five minutes or under one minute isn't the name of the game.
The interesting thing is whether his claim of teaching people effective memorization is true. I also think that blindly trusting testimonials shouldn't lead you to making decisions.

Having a bunch students that complete a medical degree in a halve the time it normally takes after getting through would be a sign of credibility (and please in a way that allows verification of the claims, testimonials don't count).

I would really like that some memory trainer comes up with a system that gives his students the ability to complete a medical degree in halve the time and afterwards provide evidence of that success.

That's what it's about. It's not about the trainer getting a world record in memorizing 52 cards in the shortest amount of time.

I am fine with plainly calling that dishonesty. If that's a selling point, then I don't really want to be involved.

While I probably wouldn't do such a thing myself I don't think it's a big deal, it's just not the major point of what the product is about.
Lying about your refund policy however is.
During a time where he gave a blogger a refund he wrote in this forum that he didn't gave anyone a refund (The internet is a small place...).

[servantofone]

Brutha, yes, I hope to see a day when that happens. Did the blogger you're referring to ever write a review of the product? I read a thread in which he promised a review after he secured a refund, but I never found the review.

[Brutha]

Brutha, yes, I hope to see a day when that happens. Did the blogger you're referring to ever write a review of the product? I read a thread in which he promised a review after he secured a refund, but I never found the review.

I don't think so, I know about the fact that he did get a refund because I exchanged messages with Shlomo (the blogger) and not because of something that Shlomo wrote publicly.
As a result Ruslan didn't knew that I knew at the point he made his claims in this thread.

[ghozt]

who here, actually owns the Course?

-just wondering..

Cheers
-Pres

[VIPFaktor]

Originally Posted by ghozt

who here, actually owns the Course?

-just wondering..

Cheers
-Pres

Ruslan.

[ghozt]

Originally Posted by VIPFaktor

Ruslan.

No. seriously, who owns it?

[aegis]

Originally Posted by ghozt

No. seriously, who owns it?

I don't actually own the course, but let's just say that a "friend" let me borrow it. I posted my thoughts on the system in this thread a while ago, but it looks like my post was deleted.

I got through the first 22 lessons and gave up on it. It was simply too mentally exhausting, and I found it difficult to retain the information over longer periods of time. I may have been able to recall most of the information on the following day, but 2-3 days later, I'd forget more than half of it. Visualization actually became more difficult as I progressed, which I found strange.

I believe that some type of visual component can help tremendously when it comes to retaining information. However, the visuals should be used in conjunction with other means.

Brutha mentioned that "having a bunch students that complete a medical degree in a halve the time it normally takes after getting through would be a sign of credibility (and please in a way that allows verification of the claims, testimonials don't count)."

I respectfully disagree. In fact, I'd be leery of seeing a doctor who used this program to study in medical school. Diagnosticians should possess an intuitive understanding of medicine. Simply memorizing bits of information won't make them good doctors.

Time and repetition is the only way to master a particular field. The brain actually goes through physical changes as new skills are formed. It's part of the natural learning process and there's really no shortcut. You'd be doing yourself a disservice by simply cramming the information.

This may work great if you're a visual learner, but despite popular belief, most people aren't. Most people benefit from learning in a variety of ways including visually, auditory, and hands-on. You need to find what combination works best for you.

[Hatred4Scammers]

Hi. This is a random post not having much to do with the topic out of nowhere but... I just wanted to say that I'm a lurker on this forum and finally decided to create an account. I was actually going through this entire thread because I wondered if it actually worked. (And for a silly moment, I even wondered if I should purchase it lol) After reading the many posts from DarkSide on this thread, and various others who seemed to appear (and created their accounts on the same month) at the same time, I decided that it might be a scam. So I googled and found various people with the same names on this topic also advertising (probably copy and paste lol) elsewhere. Perhaps, the product-sellers are merely trying to advertise but I found it highly suspicious. If it works for you though, good for you. =)! And if it didn't, I just wanted to warn you that it might be a little suspicious. This is all I wanted to say.

[Brutha]

I respectfully disagree. In fact, I'd be leery of seeing a doctor who used this program to study in medical school. Diagnosticians should possess an intuitive understanding of medicine. Simply memorizing bits of information won't make them good doctors.

Intutition comes from having enough different patterns in your head.
I didn't said that a propective doctor should spend 100% of their time memorising stuff.

The way medical school is structured everyone has to spent some time memorising stuff that they forget once they are doctors.

The brain actually goes through physical changes as new skills are formed.

Of course the brain goes to physical changes when it does anything. It's no big news unless you still believe in dualism.

[Brutha]

I really don't like drive by internet marketing. Therefore I will from now on limit participation in this thread to people with already have wrote 10+ posts elsewhere on this forum.

[VIPFaktor]

Originally Posted by Brutha

I really don't like drive by internet marketing. Therefore I will from now on limit participation in this thread to people with already have wrote 10+ posts elsewhere on this forum.

Yes, and to be frank, that's really terrible and dumb way of trying to influence people. I don't know who's doing this, if it's Ruslan, then I really feel sorry for him for not having sales, this is a very good system (this is the marketing that he needs - word of mouth, guerilla, etc), with some background research, their good application and careful integration of memorization methods, most of which were known for a long time before he rebranded them, but that's not important. I personally like the product, and I'm on the first part of the practical part. I believe this is good enough product for disciplined (very important here) people with enough time, and some predispositions for this. It's not easy at all (in terms of time, mostly), and many people will quit and start saying it's scam or something. It's not.
Anyway, I, as an [internet] marketer, am truly disappointed to see the lack of real marketing knowledge used for the promotion of this product... he's either hiring amateurs to do this, or he's doing it himself. This thing has had, and still has plenty of potential.

Sigh...I easily get into the offtopic when I get chance.

Originally Posted by Brutha

Therefore I will from now on limit participation in this thread to people with already have wrote 10+ posts elsewhere on this forum.

You can do that on per-thread basis? Nice...
It seems vBulletin is worth it's pricetag.

[Scipio]

Has anyone successfully learned a language very shortly with these techniques?

I already take advantage of a few techniques, such as the imaginative memory method in Heisig's Remembering the Kanji, or I do little tricks of visualizing something related to the sound of the new word in my native language, but I'd like to increase my ability in all the languages I'm studying drastically. Is there anything I'm missing that could significantly help, that is taught in this course? I also use a spaced repetition system to solidify the language into long term memory.

I'm studying Korean, Japanese, French, and Esperanto concurrently.