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Old 07-01-2010, 10:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking planning to quit piracy

Ahoy, me hearties.

Been pirating for most of my life. Surfing the digital wave in search for booties. But lately, I feel this kind of work is kind of... shallow. The actual feeling is kind of hard to describe.

Any other pirates here who have quit their pirating life? I find it really hard to imagine how my life will turn out without piracy. My Windows is filled with pirated software, movies, games etc. My Linux however, is free of pirated software.
Sometime, I'd pirate lots of stuffs and in the end I decided not to watch or play that particular software. Don't ask me why, I just love pirating and sharing that experience and teaching my fellow Jim Lads (we use IRC most of the time)

Turn out pirating is not completely "free". You've got to spend time "enjoying" those booties. And since pirating naturally brings you more stuffs than you can watch, time flies by and finally you realised you have no talents whatsoever other than pirating . Really sucks when you noticed this only when you are 21.

If I were to uninstall and delete all the pirated stuffs... what would become of my PC? What would become of me?
Oh, Dweep Gold created by Steve? Yeah, I've got that one too . Shhhhh. .

Any tips or solutions?

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Old 07-01-2010, 11:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I can honestly say I haven't pirated anything in years and it was because of this book. Which book you ask? This one.

Of course, I'm just joking, but I truly have not pirated anything because I have always thought it was wrong. I believe that the person who creates something deserves payment for what they put out. If you don't want to pay for it (or have someone pay for it for you), then you don't believe it has real value. If you want something bad enough, you should be willing to pay for it.

Not to mention the risks you run by downloading pirated stuff. Viruses and what not. I would rather pay for whatever it is I want than download a virus-ridden, barely functioning program or mp3 or whatever. Not to mention that it is stealing. Just think how you would feel if the product you make your living on was being attained for free and you couldn't do anything about it. Put yourself in the creator's place. These people work hard to create these things, so it's not fair to get the end result for free.
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Not to mention the risks you run by downloading pirated stuff. Viruses and what not. I would rather pay for whatever it is I want than download a virus-ridden, barely functioning program or mp3 or whatever. Not to mention that it is stealing. Just think how you would feel if the product you make your living on was being attained for free and you couldn't do anything about it. Put yourself in the creator's place. These people work hard to create these things, so it's not fair to get the end result for free.
"Virus ridden barely functioning program."
HARR HARR! Only n00b pirates would get those. Come to think of it, I did get those during my early pirating days. Arrrr.... Yeah, that was suck. But I learned and adapt. Next challenge, please.
Risks? If you do it properly, there's absolutely no risks... well, at least in our world right now. Fully working mp3s? Why, that's the easiest things to get! So easy it's not worth my time anymore.
Virus? That is what my Linux is for! Then, transfer that data to my Windows. Virus free!

"Just think how you would feel if the product you make your living on was being attained for free and you couldn't do anything about it."
Sorry. Never created anything useful and creative in my life. . Well, maybe if they found out that their pirated stuffs helps people, then I don't think they feel that bad.... but maybe it's just me.
Example: Pirated Cosmos and... watched it. Never before I've been touched emotionally in all of my life. Maybe Carl Sagan is happy that his message reached me. Or maybe he's so mad right now in the afterlife that he want to haunt me. Or maybe, it's a blend.

Stealing? Yeah, I steal stuffs, online and offline. Kind of... shallow (for the lack of better words).
Oh, and I also steal Facebook passwords and others . So awesome. They always pumps up the security and we need to think of another way to get those booties.
Why? I dunno really. Just for fun and testing myself, I guess. I can share some of my treasures if you like.........

But I greatly reduced all the activities that people would call immoral ever since I watched Cosmos. I still keep my treasures, not sure if I want to delete them.
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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you are a pirate.
I'm getting a meme flashback....

Some girl in curly red hair and is best friends with pedo bear?
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"Just think how you would feel if the product you make your living on was being attained for free and you couldn't do anything about it."
Sorry. Never created anything useful and creative in my life. . Well, maybe if they found out that their pirated stuffs helps people, then I don't think they feel that bad.... but maybe it's just me.
Example: Pirated Cosmos and... watched it. Never before I've been touched emotionally in all of my life. Maybe Carl Sagan is happy that his message reached me. Or maybe he's so mad right now in the afterlife that he want to haunt me. Or maybe, it's a blend.
Yeah. I have suggestion for you: go to work and say your employer that you don't need any salary - because you know that your work is so influential, so valuable, that making people's lives better is the only reward you need. He would be very happy for that. (Or if you're entrepreneur, just give your stuff or services for free - people will be very greatful!)

But one thing makes me curious... how would you get money for food, shelter, and to meet other basic needs in that situation? And what with your loved PC? Would you get electricity for free?

Please test it and then come back and say that you still stand for this conception.

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Old 07-02-2010, 06:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Are your parents poor? If you pirate more than you acutally use or watch, you may do it just because you enjoy being able to have something that you could never buy legally yourself. On the other hand, pirating seems to be your way of procrastinating... Getting hobbies aside from the computer may help.
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Old 07-02-2010, 02:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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In this age of internet,it is really hard to resist piracy. I mean, how can anyone pay for something if they get it freely?If people see one product with a price tag of$300 on one side and the same product available for free on the other side, people generally tend to download it for free. No wonder,nearly 50% of internet users pirate stuffs.( I find it surprising Andrew Brunelle saying he haven't pirated anything in years.Thats quite an achievement in my opinion )

My opinion regarding piracy is to be reasonable when doing it. What I mean by being reasonable is to download what that is already successful and sufficient amount of money is made by the producer of the product that you download. For example, I recently downloaded the movie Avatar. Everyone knows that movie is one of the greatest movies ever made. For the first time in my life I watched that movie 4 times in theaters. Every time I watch it, I feel like watching it one more time.But I can't afford to watch numerous times like that. Producers of that movie made billions of dollars. So I find it reasonable to download it. But Iam always against the piracy where producers don't get the money for the work they've done and you download it freely.

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Old 07-02-2010, 03:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I try(and succeed) to do less piracy recently, since I reached the conclusion it's not the right way to do things. But - in some cases when there's something I don't have any way to access legaly ATM, I may resort to piracy. But then, when I am able to afford said thing(assuming I recieved corrisponding value from it), I buy it. If I didn't the value was by far lower than I expected, I don't bother buying, but otherwise I try to.
Again - I only pirate things I can't currently afford, and I try to give the producer its worth when I can.
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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For the record, I have lots of products out there, and many of them are available on torrent sites. This doesn't bother me particularly.
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Morally it bothers me to pirate now, even though I still don't have an income and have always had every intention of buying the things I found value in when I do have one. Plus I wasted a lot of time doing it.

I do a lot of indirect pirating--ie, reading manga on sites or listening to music online. I'm not sure morally how much better it is that I need an internet connection to watch/listen to this stuff vs. having it on my hard disk. But it has cut down on the amount of "consumption" I'm doing by limiting it like that... so I enjoy more and waste less time.

Pirating has it's place. There are a lot of things I wouldn't be spending time or money on if some form of pirating hadn't introduced to me to it. Likewise, there are a lot of things I'm glad I didn't spend money on when it could be spent on better things. So I like the idea of being "reasonable" about it. Give value where you get value, and consume in moderation.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Maybe I think too much. I don't know where this will lead me but I know for sure I hate being in this situation.
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For the record, I have lots of products out there, and many of them are available on torrent sites. This doesn't bother me particularly.
Once I get my products out there, I don't think that I'd have much of a problem pirating them either.

I truly believe that if you deliver HIGH quality content that people who pirate your stuff will eventually buy.

In addition, it's a way of getting your name out there.

Most people are too scared to pirate because of viruses, and I agree with the poster: they are n00bs, but hey, it's all good. You just gotta know where to go.

Pirating isn't really pirating...it's just try it before you buy it.

And if you don't buy it because it wasn't good enough, then fine.

However, once I get more money, I won't be pirating everything. There are certain things that I'll be buying more, but even now, I don't really think much of it. Just different social conditioning.

Hell, it's all energy, ey?
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:00 AM   #13 (permalink)
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This is hard! I just can't get myself to stop piracy completely. *Typing this whilst listening to Tony Robbins... downloaded for free, of course. Legal? Sort of..."

I just managed to keep myself from downloading any movies or music.
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This is hard! I just can't get myself to stop piracy completely. *Typing this whilst listening to Tony Robbins... downloaded for free, of course. Legal? Sort of..."

I just managed to keep myself from downloading any movies or music.
Whatever you resist persists. Try focusing on what you want instead? Maybe...to have more than enough money to be able to pay for them easily and effortlessly? That way, you get what you want and you don't feel like you lost anything.

I used to pirate stuff. I actually pirated The Secret which helped me stop pirating lol. I started using the stuff in it and not too long after that I started feeling a lot more abundant. That abundant feeling and pirating don't mix at all so I completely stopped and deleted everything I ever pirated. The urge to do it wasn't even there anymore. I ended up buying like 3-4 extra copies of it and just gave em away to different people.
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For every program you don't pirate, I'm going to pirate 3 programs. So, you trying to quit piracy is actually having a worse affect on piracy than if you hadn't tried to stop at all. So, essentially, you're making things worse by NOT pirating.

Oh, what now? Does pirating seem as bad to you? Or does not pirating suddenly seem like the bad option? I just threw a monkey wrench into your whole operation!

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What's the point of it anyway?

So you get some programs and games for free. What then? Stealing doesn't make anyone special, intelligent or strong -- it only DE-values you as an individual.

Those with true value have no need to take what isn't theirs.. they give.
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but why would you want to quit piracy? the only thing i recognized in your post would be because you don't get enough "real value" out of it - but that's only the value or better the things everyone think there's value in it - so why don't you stay with it and try to get the value you want from it?
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I don't pirate, no matter what others do.

I believe in conveying appreciation. If something is not worth appreciating (paying for ) it is not worth having.

It helps a lot to declutter that way...
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For every program you don't pirate, I'm going to pirate 3 programs. So, you trying to quit piracy is actually having a worse affect on piracy than if you hadn't tried to stop at all. So, essentially, you're making things worse by NOT pirating.

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This is my attitude...

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What's the point of it anyway?

So you get some programs and games for free. What then? Stealing doesn't make anyone special, intelligent or strong -- it only DE-values you as an individual.

Those with true value have no need to take what isn't theirs.. they give.
This is just a tad ridiculous. If I had never pirated in my life, I would lack half the computer skills I have. I am proficient at many programs that are industry standards in their respective fields, and I do believe it would be hard to achieve this without the programs themselves.
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In fact today is the last of the month and I have 16GB left on my internet for the month, so I'm making it a point to download (pirate) 16GB worth of material. Today.
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In fact today is the last of the month and I have 16GB left on my internet for the month, so I'm making it a point to download (pirate) 16GB worth of material. Today.
That's your choice of course

I just wonder, why steal and rob the persons who created these programs of their earned money?

If people steal that means that there is less and less money in developing new stuff, so less new stuff gets developed... Not something I'd want to be part of.

Same with the "you wouldn't download a car" (here it is "you wouldn't steal a car"). Would you really? Would you really go on the street and steal a car? Or go to the supermarket and fill up your shopping cart and leave without paying?

I wouldn't. My principles will not allow for it.
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That's your choice of course

I just wonder, why steal and rob the persons who created these programs of their earned money?

If people steal that means that there is less and less money in developing new stuff, so less new stuff gets developed... Not something I'd want to be part of.

Same with the "you wouldn't download a car" (here it is "you wouldn't steal a car"). Would you really? Would you really go on the street and steal a car? Or go to the supermarket and fill up your shopping cart and leave without paying?

I wouldn't. My principles will not allow for it.
I'm not sure if I can be classified as a kleptomaniac, but I do steal things occasionally. The last was Stephen King's Under The Dome. Hard Cover.

I would say mostly its trivial things, gum at the corner store, a pen at a department store. I once stole an item worth about $500, and it was a pretty thrilling experience. I've never been caught, and notice that I'm doing it less and less often, but today I suppose my mentality is "go big or go home". Read that as you may.
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America was founded on pirating.
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America was founded on pirating.
And look how that turned out..... :S
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And look how that turned out..... :S
Yeah pretty great huh? I am glad you agree. Phew man...

Oh, wait, you were attempting sarcasm.

FAIL!

Haterz gonna hate. ;P
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Yeah pretty great huh? I am glad you agree. Phew man...

Oh, wait, you were attempting sarcasm.

FAIL!

Haterz gonna hate. ;P
Thank you. Knowing or unknowing, you gave me some insight into myself...

A better world starts with yourself is something I try to live by. So no matter what others do, I live by my own standards of what I consider "right".

I do not want to be that person who dislikes an entire country based on some of it's policies.

Just like I don't dislike an entire person based on some of their actions...

Thank you for pointing that out to me. I'll work on that
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Stealing? Yeah, I steal stuffs, online and offline. Kind of... shallow (for the lack of better words).
Oh, and I also steal Facebook passwords and others . So awesome. They always pumps up the security and we need to think of another way to get those booties.
Why? I dunno really. Just for fun and testing myself, I guess.
You simply need a better hobby.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:28 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I've never really understood why they have those annoying piracy warnings ON the DVD!
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