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Old 01-06-2010, 09:14 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Well, its my first "number" post, with the 10 Hobbies.

I studied a lot of successful people, and noted how they spent their leisure time, in terms of specifically what they developed, and noticed some interesting commonalities.

Article here:

10 Hobbies that Separate Winners from Loosers

Thoughts? Reactions? Constructives? Flameage?
Just one thought. It's "losers." Not "loosers."

I would agree studying language is a good idea
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:48 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I agree with you Brendan. If you don't speak a major language like English, then the odds of learning a foreign language benefiting your life vastly are much higher. But if English is your native language, you don't need a foreign language to have a vast amount of life options unless you have specific interests that require it. Personally, I used to be really into study languages. I studied French, Romanian, Swahili, Japanese, and a little bit of Spanish. But now I just wish I had studied more Spanish because there are so many Spanish-speakers around. French enriches my life, but I haven't been able to go to a place where people speak French, so it hasn't been particularly useful. Now I am really tired of studying languages... so much time, for what? I am too busy learning about everything else to study a foreign language at the moment. Eventually I would like to learn Spanish for practical reasons, but other than that, no big deal.
I made clear that I was speaking for myself. I actually would like to learn another language quite well. But if I did, it would most likely be more for hobby than practical reasons, and I figure it would take a lot of effort to get good, and I'd rather put that effort into something more practical for my own life.

I envy anybody who is bi-lingual or tri-lingual.. but not for me. I learnt Japanese at high school, didn't really get that good, but learning again would be easier. I'd probably learn it if i had the intention on working or living in Japan, but that's not a likelihood at this stage..
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10 hobbies?

Hands up, those of you who can honestly say you have 10 hobbies at the same time, of any kind.

Must be unemployed.
Just as you wouldn't do your taxes while masturbating (unless that gets you off; far be it from me to judge) you probably won't study language while you're out in a forest honing your survival skills.
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Just as you wouldn't do your taxes while masturbating (unless that gets you off; far be it from me to judge) you probably won't study language while you're out in a forest honing your survival skills.
Why not? Negotiating with the locals in their own language improves your survival chances. You can add rhetoric and creativity in the process too!
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Why not? Negotiating with the locals in their own language improves your survival chances. You can add rhetoric and creativity in the process too!
In my example I was speaking of practice rather than application, though it goes to show why both skills are worth developing.
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For the purposes of this article, while I did study many with sizeable resources, my criteria for winners were:

1) Darkworkers (conscious of it or not).
2) At minimum, living at a level most of us would consider comfortable.
3) Decent health, happy with their relationships.
4) Most importantly, clearly exuding a general sense of happiness and peace.

But no, they weren't ALL six-figure CEO's. But, a good chunk.
Already read your article a week or two ago and liked it. I didn't thought of survival skills as important tool, but if you think about it more it gives you more peace and confidence, which I like.

Why it's important for you it to be darkworkers?
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