what creates a belief?

[ultimate]

I cannot get over the belief that i have wasted too much time and its too late.
I do important things at the last minute.
I escape through movies and self pleasure.
I have crazy big goals that I would love to achieve but feel money is the limiting factor (or general lifestyle)

[Angela]

A belief is just a habitual thought. You could begin to consciously choose new thoughts that work and feel better, if you want to.

[Matt Willard]

Originally Posted by Angela

A belief is just a habitual thought. You could begin to consciously choose new thoughts that work and feel better, if you want to.

Any ideas on how to do that? Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I find scant amounts of material on this subject.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Matt Willard

Any ideas on how to do that? Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I find scant amounts of material on this subject.

Really? Gosh, it seems to me that's all we ever talk about around here.

I would start with reaching for a better feeling thought, moving up the emotional guidance scale (Abraham/Hicks, "The Vortex" and "Ask and It is Given"). Of course I suggest releasing the old stored-up negative emotions and limiting decisions using TIME Techniques, because better feeling thoughts are ultra-vividly-available once you do that. And once you've got some good-feeling thoughts that you'd like to program in at a level of unconscious mastery, hypnosis (self- and with a therapist), NLP, belief boards (I like video boards), audio meditations, and nightly practice of belief-installation (I'll be doing a blog post about that in the next couple of days) are all great tools to use.

You might want to start off by practicing thinking:

"It is becoming easier and easier for me to deliberately think thoughts that work well for me and feel really good."

"Supportive resources are showing up more and more!"

Write them down -- post them prominently to remind you to choose those thoughts that will benefit you most!

[Matt Willard]

Doesn't all that stuff take a while to learn? Far be it from me to request an instant fix, but is there a technique I can begin using right away? Like, I've read about writing the belief down and confirming it in your environment. Things like that which can be used immediately to start making progress.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Matt Willard

Doesn't all that stuff take a while to learn? Far be it from me to request an instant fix, but is there a technique I can begin using right away? Like, I've read about writing the belief down and confirming it in your environment. Things like that which can be used immediately to start making progress.

How long does it take to deliberately think a thought that feels good when you think it? What would stop you from doing it right away? It may take 20 minutes or so to read the pertinent parts of the book, but is that so much time to take to transform your life?

TIME Techniques takes about 2 hours, and then you can do it any time, instantly, on your own once you know how. Hypnosis and belief boards can be put together and meditated upon in a matter of moments, and nightly belief programming takes around 1 minute and a half each night for a month, but results usually kick in much sooner.

How much of a stinkin' hurry are you IN, Matt?

[Matt Willard]

I was just concerned that these techniques or whatever take some extra application before they can be used. (Longer than hours.) Well, I'll look into them and see what I can find.

[Thekla]

I would start by deciding what you do want to believe, instead of what you no longer want to believe.

[PerDev]

This is Very good tools, ideas and methods for helping us creating empowering habits. Thanks Angela.

This also help us consciously aware of our current set of Patterns and replace the same with more empowering patterns using different Stimulus, Thoughts and Results.

Originally Posted by Angela

Really? Gosh, it seems to me that's all we ever talk about around here.

I would start with reaching for a better feeling thought, moving up the emotional guidance scale (Abraham/Hicks, "The Vortex" and "Ask and It is Given"). Of course I suggest releasing the old stored-up negative emotions and limiting decisions using TIME Techniques, because better feeling thoughts are ultra-vividly-available once you do that. And once you've got some good-feeling thoughts that you'd like to program in at a level of unconscious mastery, hypnosis (self- and with a therapist), NLP, belief boards (I like video boards), audio meditations, and nightly practice of belief-installation (I'll be doing a blog post about that in the next couple of days) are all great tools to use.

You might want to start off by practicing thinking:

"It is becoming easier and easier for me to deliberately think thoughts that work well for me and feel really good."

"Supportive resources are showing up more and more!"

Write them down -- post them prominently to remind you to choose those thoughts that will benefit you most!

[Donkey1]

A belief a habitual thought?

You believe what you think to be true. Habitually lying to yourself doesn't do anything at the core, because deep down you know it to be untrue because it doesn't make sense.

I've tested this. I've repeated to myself a complete lie for an extended period. I said to myself every day "I'm a donkey" but I don't believe it at all.

[Brutha]

I've tested this. I've repeated to myself a complete lie for an extended period. I said to myself every day "I'm a donkey" but I don't believe it at all.

If you have the habit of saying every day "I'm a donkey" while you don't believe that you are a donkey there's no reason why that should create a habit of thinking that you are a donkey.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Donkey1

A belief a habitual thought?

You believe what you think to be true. Habitually lying to yourself doesn't do anything at the core, because deep down you know it to be untrue because it doesn't make sense.

I've tested this. I've repeated to myself a complete lie for an extended period. I said to myself every day "I'm a donkey" but I don't believe it at all.

Hi, Donkey1. You're right, programming in a belief is not about simply repeating a phrase you know to be a complete lie. You have a conscious critical faculty that will reject something that just doesn't make sense, or that triggers a conscious or unconscious threat, so "I'm a donkey" or "I've got a bridge for sale in Brooklyn - cheap!" are likely to get bounced right out. That's why if you're in a hypnotic trance and the therapist (even if it's yourself) says something that directly contradicts your deeply held beliefs, or occurs like win/lose manipulation, you're likely to just come right out of trance, wide awake. Your critical faculty is like a beefy bouncer at the your mind's disco door. Don't bother trying to push past him, because he'll just kick your butt right out. That's what happened with your "I'm a donkey" thought -- it never got installed as a habitual thought (thank goodness! )

Programming in a belief at an unconscious level takes bypassing the bouncer. There are some insidious people who do that with a win/lose intention (advertisers, politicians, some pick-up artists), but you can also bypass the bouncer with win/win intentions - for the purpose of getting the results you want with the highest benefit for all.

For belief installation to work well, in my opinion, the belief must be something that you feel at least at some level will benefit you (but that benefit doesn't need to be something you consciously think is "positive"). I don't think there's any part of you that feels that believing you're a donkey will benefit you at any level, is there? And it must also be something that is not in direct conflict with your reality, because the bouncer will kick that right out. So, for instance, if you were to think the thought, "I'm such an ass" over and over again, there may be a part of you that feels believing that would be beneficial, by punishing you or otherwise preventing you from doing things that might work against your best interests (at an unconscious level, of course). That's one way a limiting belief can be installed.

I think you might be surprised to see the "complete lies" that your unconscious mind is storing so deeply and thoroughly as The Truth that you think they're Reality. These are thoughts you've been thinking since you were a little kid -- something happened, you had a thought about that event (to survive or cope with it), and you've been believing it ever since, at such a deep level it doesn't even feel like a "thought" anymore.

And you can also install beliefs that both your unconscious and your conscious mind can get on board with. You can choose a new belief that inspires you and that doesn't directly contradict what you deeply know to be not true. So, rather than choosing to install, "I'm the most popular guy in the world," which your Bouncer would probably just toss out on its ear, you might want to pick a bypassing belief, like "I am feeling more and more engaged with people" or "I'm becoming more and more relaxed and confident every day," which your Bouncer might just give the nod to.

[Donkey1]

Almost exactly.

But what you call a bouncer, I call what makes sense. Instead of getting around what make's sense it's smart to use it. If something is clearly true, I'll believe it.

ultimate basically wants to erase his beliefs that he thinks are hurting him and create new ones that help. For instance, if you come up with a case that's good enough where he obviously has a lot of time to spare, he'll believe it. That of course assuming he has good sense and thinks for himself.

[Brutha]

But what you call a bouncer, I call what makes sense.

For some people the belief "I'm worthless" makes sense. That however doesn't mean that it's a productive belief and that you shouldn't work around that belief.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Brutha

For some people the belief "I'm worthless" makes sense. That however doesn't mean that it's a productive belief and that you shouldn't work around that belief.

Exactly. When it comes to old limiting beliefs, you can't reason with them. You can't convince someone their limiting belief is not true by arguing with them -- logic has no effect on it.

[Donkey1]

"I'm worthless" is a very very broad statement to make about yourself. Every person has some type of value.

Take for instance building a house. Would you rather go it alone or work with 20 people who have that belief about themselves.

Or being stranded on an island by yourself or with somebody to talk to and help you live.

Also, you can convince somebody they're wrong by arguing even though they won't admit to it necessarily. But along with arguing, you might get hurt feelings or physical confrontation. Some look at arguing as an attack on the person's competence. Which it is sometimes.

[danthony]

Originally Posted by Angela

A belief is just a habitual thought. You could begin to consciously choose new thoughts that work and feel better, if you want to.

As Angela has said above, this is just a habitual habit and it's not good for you when it is a negative one at that. You have either told yourself this pattern of thought consciously or subconsciously but it is something that is ingrained that you need to correct. Start with a fresh set of affirmations or encantations supporting yourself from the beginning of the day and the last things at night. You will definetely see a difference. When that little voice from within nods you a negative thought, tell it to take a hike

[Talkofthatown919]

Create a belief by visualizing the way and type of life you want to live all the way till the end result.

[Inspirations]

hi ultimate,

Beliefs are not thoughts - to the contrary, your thoughts about wasting time and it being too late come from one of your beliefs or truths about life. Thoughts give us an insight into our beliefs.

It is easy to prove this for yourself. Next time you hear a negative comment in your mind (mind chatter), consciously tell it to change. You may be able to silence that thought in this moment, but if you ask yourself about the original comment you will still feel it's truth.

Beliefs are formed by reaching conclusions, most of which we make then forget about. But once reached, all conclusions become part of our reality as they are our truth.

Examples would include: deciding he doesn't love me because he didn't remember what I wore on our first date, that adults are always right after being chastised as a child for making a mistake, that men are bad or can't be trusted when a father leaves, or even that I don't deserve because it was my fault that my parents divorced when I was a sick 7 year old.

We had to create a range of life rules as children so we could function in this new world - what to do when, how to behave, what to expect, how to stay safe, etc.

We just forgot that these beliefs were meant to be temporary, until we were ready to create a special set of beliefs to live by for ourselves, which are the opposite of the beliefs we originally created.

Understanding or having information about beliefs doesn't change them. Beliefs are stored in our subconscious storehouse, beyond conscious awareness, so of course we can't tell them to change and have that happen.

You can however, follow the opportunities that your thoughts and feelings give and walk right into your unconscious mind, where you will hear the original thoughts and feelings you had when you formed the conclusion, then completely and permanently release the belief, and smile as you hear the spontaneous epiphany as the new belief automatically comes.

When you are ready to stop living the drama, you'll be ready to create a whole new world with a whole new set of beliefs.

[Brutha]

"I'm worthless" is a very very broad statement to make about yourself. Every person has some type of value.

That doesn't change anything about the statement 'making sense' for that person.

Also, you can convince somebody they're wrong by arguing even though they won't admit to it necessarily.

That process usually doesn't work with deep seated negative beliefs.

[Donkey1]

That doesn't change anything about the statement 'making sense' for that person.

Read my other two paragraphs. They might feel worthless, but it's not true.

That process usually doesn't work with deep seated negative beliefs.

That's your belief.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Donkey1

That's your belief.

That's my belief, too, after working with hundreds of people who want to release deeply rooted, identity-level limiting beliefs.

People tend to put lots of energy into proving that such a belief is not true and at the same time working hard to avoid people finding out that it IS true. Like the person who believes "I am stupid," and becomes an overachiever, gets an advanced degree, assumes command of her entire family, etc.... and even with all her accomplishments and accumulated wisdom, it still hurts when someone questions her advice or insinuates that she should know better or pushes the "I am stupid" button in some other way. 30 or 40 years of "logic" to the contrary doesn't make a difference. No amount of her friends and family assuring her that she is indeed a brilliant person makes much of a difference, except to temporarily assuage her bad feelings, in a sort of sad way. She'll see your point; she'll nod and say, "yes, of course I know myself to be an intelligent person, yes, yes." And that feeling of being stupid is still there, maybe even made worse now, because you've pushed the button -- if she wasn't so stupid, she'd be able to really *get* how not stupid she is.

A deep identity-level limiting belief is like a bottomless pit, and you can't fill up a bottomless pit. Not even with logic.

That's because those beliefs live in the unconscious mind, beyond the grasp of conscious reason. If you want to uproot an unconsciously-held belief, it takes speaking the language of the unconscious, directly TO the unconscious mind.

That's true for any kind of influence -- if you want to be powerfully influential, you've got to speak the language of who you're trying to influence.

[James81]

Oh man, I just wrote a 2500 word article about this on my blog. I just haven't published it yet cause I have to edit it. Time to get my butt in gear and go edit that sucker.

[Angela]

I'll look forward to reading that!

[Donkey1]

Again, "I'm stupid" is very very general comment to make about yourself.

She's stupid at.. what?

She's obviously not stupid about getting an advanced degree or accomplishing at least some things she'd like in her life.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Donkey1

Again, "I'm stupid" is very very general comment to make about yourself.

She's stupid at.. what?

She's obviously not stupid about getting an advanced degree or accomplishing at least some things she'd like in her life.

Exactly! That's why these deeply unconscious identity level limiting beliefs are so stubborn and resistant to conscious "logical" argument. "Yes, I know I got an advanced degree, so of course obviously I'm really smart, but why do I still feel so stupid?"

If you argue to someone with the "I am stupid" DUILLB that she's obviously not stupid at least about some things in her life, you will win the argument -- you'll probably get her to concede (consciously) that yes, she's smart in many ways. But you won't have made a dent in helping her release the limiting belief -- you may have even helped strengthen it.

[Donkey1]

That's fine. She's not smart at everything, no one is.

What does/did she feel stupid about? She might be bad at something, it happens. If she wants to get better or 'unstupid' about it, help her.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Donkey1

That's fine. She's not smart at everything, no one is.

What does/did she feel stupid about? She might be bad at something, it happens. If she wants to get better or 'unstupid' about it, help her.

You understand that this is just an example of a deep unconsciously held identity level limiting belief, don't you?

And yes, that's what I do -- I don't help people get "unstupid," I help people let go of beliefs like that, that don't serve them well. Things that people have been telling them logically for years that they aren't true, and that the belief-hold agrees logically that they're not true, but they still feel true. I help people scoop those out and let 'em go, by talking directly to the unconscious mind, in its own language - NOT conscious, logical argument.

[Donkey1]

Well I would have asked her what she was feeling stupid about, and helped her with it. But apparently that's not your job.

I wouldn't say oh no you're actually smart at this, when in reality they are bad. It's a lie.

[PerDev]

This is Superb Technique.

I was doing it but didn't give name to it.
I like it to say "Creative Empowering Progressive Observation".

I don't want to limit it to my Avtar so i used it as perception to look all things.
The short name of it i call is "looking for good Proactively".








And you can also install beliefs that both your unconscious and your conscious mind can get on board with. You can choose a new belief that inspires you and that doesn't directly contradict what you deeply know to be not true. So, rather than choosing to install, "I'm the most popular guy in the world," which your Bouncer would probably just toss out on its ear, you might want to pick a bypassing belief, like "I am feeling more and more engaged with people" or "I'm becoming more and more relaxed and confident every day," which your Bouncer might just give the nod to.

Originally Posted by Angela

Hi, Donkey1. You're right, programming in a belief is not about simply repeating a phrase you know to be a complete lie. You have a conscious critical faculty that will reject something that just doesn't make sense, or that triggers a conscious or unconscious threat, so "I'm a donkey" or "I've got a bridge for sale in Brooklyn - cheap!" are likely to get bounced right out. That's why if you're in a hypnotic trance and the therapist (even if it's yourself) says something that directly contradicts your deeply held beliefs, or occurs like win/lose manipulation, you're likely to just come right out of trance, wide awake. Your critical faculty is like a beefy bouncer at the your mind's disco door. Don't bother trying to push past him, because he'll just kick your butt right out. That's what happened with your "I'm a donkey" thought -- it never got installed as a habitual thought (thank goodness! )

Programming in a belief at an unconscious level takes bypassing the bouncer. There are some insidious people who do that with a win/lose intention (advertisers, politicians, some pick-up artists), but you can also bypass the bouncer with win/win intentions - for the purpose of getting the results you want with the highest benefit for all.

For belief installation to work well, in my opinion, the belief must be something that you feel at least at some level will benefit you (but that benefit doesn't need to be something you consciously think is "positive"). I don't think there's any part of you that feels that believing you're a donkey will benefit you at any level, is there? And it must also be something that is not in direct conflict with your reality, because the bouncer will kick that right out. So, for instance, if you were to think the thought, "I'm such an ass" over and over again, there may be a part of you that feels believing that would be beneficial, by punishing you or otherwise preventing you from doing things that might work against your best interests (at an unconscious level, of course). That's one way a limiting belief can be installed.

I think you might be surprised to see the "complete lies" that your unconscious mind is storing so deeply and thoroughly as The Truth that you think they're Reality. These are thoughts you've been thinking since you were a little kid -- something happened, you had a thought about that event (to survive or cope with it), and you've been believing it ever since, at such a deep level it doesn't even feel like a "thought" anymore.

And you can also install beliefs that both your unconscious and your conscious mind can get on board with. You can choose a new belief that inspires you and that doesn't directly contradict what you deeply know to be not true. So, rather than choosing to install, "I'm the most popular guy in the world," which your Bouncer would probably just toss out on its ear, you might want to pick a bypassing belief, like "I am feeling more and more engaged with people" or "I'm becoming more and more relaxed and confident every day," which your Bouncer might just give the nod to.