Personal Development for Smart People Forums

Personal Development for Smart PeopleTM Forums

 

Go Back   Personal Development for Smart People Forums > Personal Development > Personal Effectiveness

Notices

Personal Effectiveness Goals, productivity, time management, motivation, self-discipline, overcoming procrastination, habits, organizing, problem-solving, decision-making, intelligence

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-04-2009, 11:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 89
pschriel is on a distinguished road
Default Why I believe the lack of compassion is the root of all evil

In my article Why I do not believe that the love of money is the root of all evil I said that money, or the love of money, is not the root of all evil. But then what is?

If there is a root of all evil, I believe it must be seeing others (or other groups) as inferior. Not being able to have compassion for one another and others point of view, not being able to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes: Looking at situations from a different perspective:

Why I believe the lack of compassion is the root of all evil
pschriel is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2009, 12:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,612
brendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud of
Default

Is it possible that there are other causes of evil? For example too much compassion may be patronising to someone.. like treating them as though they're miserable, and incapable of doing anything for themselves, so showering them with sympathy, that they don't need.

After all, people go to war to bring about peace within their own people.. (makes lots of sense)
brendannz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2009, 03:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,216
Cochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppableCochonette is absolutely unstoppable
Default

Do you mean to say that the objective view of reality is the root of all evil, while the interconnected view is the solution?
Cochonette is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 05:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 491
YourHumbleNarrator is on a distinguished road
Default

But money is the root of all evil, if you think about it. Why would someone horde money? What kind of man could attain vast stores of wealth while completely disregarding the well being of those around him? What happens to someone who values luxury over their own humanity?

Money is not the root of evil. However, if you carefully study the "evil" men with vast wealth, you'll understand everything that drives a man to become that.
YourHumbleNarrator is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 06:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 125
Desmond is on a distinguished road
Default

What is evil anyway? Is there even such a thing as evil?
And why isn't it fear?
Desmond is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 02:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,612
brendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud ofbrendannz has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YourHumbleNarrator View Post
But money is the root of all evil, if you think about it. Why would someone horde money? What kind of man could attain vast stores of wealth while completely disregarding the well being of those around him? What happens to someone who values luxury over their own humanity?

Money is not the root of evil. However, if you carefully study the "evil" men with vast wealth, you'll understand everything that drives a man to become that.
But money could be a route of good, too..
brendannz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 05:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 491
YourHumbleNarrator is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brendannz View Post
But money could be a route of good, too..
I wasn't saying it couldn't (though I'm wary of terms such as good and evil). I'm not judging money. I was saying you can learn a lot about what motivates people by watching how they use it.
YourHumbleNarrator is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 02:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 263
Bleicke is on a distinguished road
Default

I believe egotism is the root of all good, and altruism/compassion is the root of all evil.

If you think about it, how perverted is it to put the well being of others above your own? Consequently followed, an altruistic/compassionate person is a slave to other people. He will work his entire life and give away everything to people who have not deserved it.

On the other hand an egotistic person cares for himself, respects himself and tries to improve his situation. He only gives to others when he benefits from it, e.g. fair trade in which both parties gain.

I think it's disrespectful and evil to be compassionate or altruistic.
Bleicke is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2009, 06:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
amj
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 315
amj is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pschriel View Post
In my article Why I do not believe that the love of money is the root of all evil I said that money, or the love of money, is not the root of all evil. But then what is?

If there is a root of all evil, I believe it must be seeing others (or other groups) as inferior. Not being able to have compassion for one another and others point of view, not being able to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes: Looking at situations from a different perspective:

Why I believe the lack of compassion is the root of all evil
You are absolutely right. More compassion is something we all need.

Shalom (peace)
amj is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2009, 06:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 491
YourHumbleNarrator is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleicke View Post
I think it's disrespectful and evil to be compassionate or altruistic.
Altruism, in the sense that you would arbitrarily give until you have nothing, is insane but it isn't really evil. Convincing people that's how they have to live is evil, if the intention is to exploit them. Really, "good" and "evil" are inadequate descriptors because we tend to define them by their effects rather than their motivations, yet truly "evil" motives are rare.

One can be quite compassionate while also being self-focused. And self-focus doesn't mean ego centered; it means focusing on drawing energy to you rather than giving it out. There's still an outflow, there has to be, but someone who is empowered is in control of that outflow regardless of which side they fall on. Compassion need only be given to those one has deemed worthy of such, to those who are ready to liberate themselves rather than rely on the good will of others.
YourHumbleNarrator is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2009, 07:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 1,370
bluedragon is on a distinguished road
Default

Of course it is. And if everyone became more compassionate, the world would slowly change.

That's why I like teaching people about health and emotional mastery, cause if you are emotionally and physically healthy, then you are capable of compassion.
bluedragon is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2009, 07:29 AM   #12 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,756
ar81 will become famous soon enough
Default

In my experience, lack of mental health is the root of evil.
A happy person does not need to hurt anyone and would be pleased if something good happens to others.
To me, evil is plain and simple lack of mental health.
ar81 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2009, 08:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 261
Talkofthatown919 is on a distinguished road
Default

i wouldn't necessarily say the root of all evil. More so they should choose to do something more fulfilling in life.
Talkofthatown919 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2009, 08:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 491
YourHumbleNarrator is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
In my experience, lack of mental health is the root of evil.
A happy person does not need to hurt anyone and would be pleased if something good happens to others.
To me, evil is plain and simple lack of mental health.
I think you're fairly close, though I would add a healthy person can and will inflict harm if they believe it's for the greater good or that it's the only/best way to get something that they want. At the very least, one can have good intentions while still doing massive harm to themselves and to other people.

Those who are truly evil, as in malicious for the sake of being malicious, are psychotic. There is an imbalance within them that drives them to hate. Such people are rare, and it's even rarer that they acquire power. Most conflicts in the world are a result of good fighting good, so to speak; even if something really isn't good, anything can be framed that way. Nobody wants to call themselves evil unless they're being theatrical, ironic, or they have something to gain in adopting that guise.
YourHumbleNarrator is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2009, 09:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,756
ar81 will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YourHumbleNarrator View Post
I think you're fairly close, though I would add a healthy person can and will inflict harm if they believe it's for the greater good or that it's the only/best way to get something that they want. At the very least, one can have good intentions while still doing massive harm to themselves and to other people.
So if healthy people see banks doing massive harm to themselves and to other people, what would they do?
ar81 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The root of all evil JE Gonzalez Spirituality, Consciousness, & Awareness 25 02-03-2009 03:26 AM
Why money is the root of evil. inquiringmind4u Business & Financial 22 10-15-2008 05:02 PM
Raw root veggies Niamh Health & Fitness 8 10-14-2008 06:54 PM
Love of Money is the Root of All Evil moonrambler Intention-Manifestation 20 02-03-2008 01:51 PM
Spirituality the root of all evil? Sunnybayes Spirituality, Consciousness, & Awareness 14 06-02-2007 11:45 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright © 2010 by Pavlina LLC