The Genius Code

[rocketman]

I have been listening to the CD's and it's very frustrating getting through them because it is filled with so much time consuming fluff (ie: it only takes 5 damn seconds to tell the listener to try and relax, you don't need a 25 minute monologue on entering some theoretical garden...)...

The entire concept behind utilizing the subconscious seems intriguing, but getting through the CD's is otherwise excruciating. I have limited time to listen to begin with.

Can someone provide some sort of written cliff notes of the basic premise behind this concept and if they have derived any benefit from its employment? That would be greatly appreciated.

[jamesbiz]

Originally Posted by rocketman

I have been listening to the CD's and it's very frustrating getting through them because it is filled with so much time consuming fluff (ie: it only takes 5 damn seconds to tell the listener to try and relax, you don't need a 25 minute monologue on entering some theoretical garden...)...

The entire concept behind utilizing the subconscious seems intriguing, but getting through the CD's is otherwise excruciating. I have limited time to listen to begin with.

Can someone provide some sort of written cliff notes of the basic premise behind this concept and if they have derived any benefit from its employment? That would be greatly appreciated.

You can't get into the subconscious with out the time consuming fluff. Yeah you can tell a person to try and relax, but that defeats the purpose. It's pretty much trying to get you under hypnosis.

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by jamesbiz

You can't get into the subconscious with out the time consuming fluff. Yeah you can tell a person to try and relax, but that defeats the purpose. It's pretty much trying to get you under hypnosis.

1. i doubt this is the case as the objective is for people to be able to simulate such an experience themselves without the CD. it's not a situation where listening to the CD is necessary every time.

2. i fully understand the point of all the fluff. i just want to be able to determine ahead of time if there is any utility for me in all of this.

a brief summary of the underpinnings of the concept would be appreciated.

[jamesbiz]

Originally Posted by rocketman

1. i doubt this is the case as the objective is for people to be able to simulate such an experience themselves without the CD. it's not a situation where listening to the CD is necessary every time.

2. i fully understand the point of all the fluff. i just want to be able to determine ahead of time if there is any utility for me in all of this.

a brief summary of the underpinnings of the concept would be appreciated.

I've never tried that one yet, so can't help you in that respect. Yes, you can do it with out the CD, after you get enough practice WITH the CD

[Ironkettle2]

All I grasped from the CD's is that you use you imagination in a relaxed state as vividly as possible you'll start relaxing even more and things will start to pop in your head that a relevant to your life. Over the wall is pretty awesome, you focus so much on the wall as vivid as possible then basically the wall disappears instantaneously. This new image that yo have is your subconscious mind and it relates to you. You should also look into the Einstein Factor. The Einstein Factor is WAY better, in my personal opinion. It tells you more about what good lifestyle habits to have and it also has image streaming.

[rocketman]

i just read a description of the Einstein Factor. How exactly is it different?

[Ironkettle2]

It is just a little different it has more helpful tips. Really to sum it up, it talks more about habits of genius where "Genius Code" just talks about his technique Image Streaming. What I got out of it was:

-Einstein thought rarely in words.
-Use of Nuerobionics (blind folded use other 4 senses)
-The more you interact with your environment the more your brain develops.
-Carry that notebook and record thoughts feeling and observations (recommended 10 observations a day)

There are other little tips that aren't discussed in Genius Code. I personally liked Einstein Factor more. It is more in-depth. Or at least it clicked for me better.

All the rest is really just his Image Streaming which he recommends 10 minutes a day.

Genius Code has more variations of Image Streaming.

[Abitofzen]

Originally Posted by rocketman

1. i doubt this is the case as the objective is for people to be able to simulate such an experience themselves without the CD. it's not a situation where listening to the CD is necessary every time.

2. i fully understand the point of all the fluff. i just want to be able to determine ahead of time if there is any utility for me in all of this.

a brief summary of the underpinnings of the concept would be appreciated.

Based off your original post, I would say the relaxation might be more useful for you than you realize.

I haven't listened to the Genius Code, but I have studied several programs for intelligence increase, deep relaxation, and accessing the powers of the deeper mind... and from your description, it sounds similar.

But you are absolutely right... with some practice, you should be able to enter a relaxed yet alert state very quickly. Ideally, you'll want to associate this with a word, image, or gesture (or all 3), and use this to trigger the state of deep relaxation and high focus in the future. You can usually create a strong trigger/anchor/association by getting into the desired state, and then doing the desired trigger on three separate occasions. And the more you practice your trigger, the stronger it will become.

My favorite product (that actually walks you through the whole process) is Relax Now. It was created by my good friend, Tamo (who is a veteran of meditation, NLP, mind training, super learning, etc.). If you would like to learn more about this program, email tamo@projectglobalalchemy.com

I think it will cost $17, but you might be able to get it cheaper before the public launch.

One thing I would like to emphasize, though. It is really important that you are able to let go and get into the deeply relaxed state.

If time were no issue, would you enjoy all the 'fluff' in the Genius Code?

Keep smiling,

Ben

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by Abitofzen

If time were no issue, would you enjoy all the 'fluff' in the Genius Code?

No. I'm more interested in understanding the mechanisms by which processes work rather than having my hand held and being spoon-fed the targeted outcome. I realize it's a commercialized product for the general public and not an academic piece, but it's extremely frustrating.

Practical application conducive to personal duplication should entail "the concept here is that the subconscious cannot be activated without relaxation and deep focus on a triggering mental stimuli. focus on something in this manner" as opposed to "la la la take a deep breath. you are entering a nice place. imagine how good you feel as a you are entering this so very nice place!!"

ugh. it's not so much the time issue as it is the complete and utter anti-intellectualism dumbing down an otherwise intriguing concept for public consumption.

[Abitofzen]

Again, I haven't listened to this particular product, but the deep breathing and guided visualization is typically there for relaxation, which is critical. Intelligent people realize that regular practice is required to develop new skills.

If, however, you are good at getting into a deeply relaxed state quickly, then you can just do that, then skip ahead to what you consider the 'meat' of the product... or you can borrow the techniques you consider valuable (from this and other programs if you like) and make your own recording.

The unconscious mind tends to respond well to your own voice, particularly through headphones. Get deeply relaxed, then play your own recording.

I've done it.

Works nice!

keep smiling,

Ben

[jamesbiz]

Originally Posted by Abitofzen

Again, I haven't listened to this particular product, but the deep breathing and guided visualization is typically there for relaxation, which is critical. Intelligent people realize that regular practice is required to develop new skills.

If, however, you are good at getting into a deeply relaxed state quickly, then you can just do that, then skip ahead to what you consider the 'meat' of the product... or you can borrow the techniques you consider valuable (from this and other programs if you like) and make your own recording.

The unconscious mind tends to respond well to your own voice, particularly through headphones. Get deeply relaxed, then play your own recording.

I've done it.

Works nice!

keep smiling,

Ben

lol but I hate my voice....

[Brutha]

I have been listening to the CD's and it's very frustrating getting through them because it is filled with so much time consuming fluff (ie: it only takes 5 damn seconds to tell the listener to try and relax, you don't need a 25 minute monologue on entering some theoretical garden...)...

But it's not about trying to relax but about relaxing.

Trying to relax doesn't work. Relaxation is the absence of trying to relax.

When the word trying is used in hypnosis it suggests that you can't do something.
Try to lift your left arm is a suggestion that includes that moving your left arm is hard.

ugh. it's not so much the time issue as it is the complete and utter anti-intellectualism dumbing down an otherwise intriguing concept for public consumption.

It's funny that effective teaching gets called anti-intellectualism.
As if a university lecture where everybody gets bored is somehow better than a process that actually works in making changes.

Practical application conducive to personal duplication should entail "the concept here is that the subconscious cannot be activated without relaxation and deep focus on a triggering mental stimuli.

Why?
Human beings have little conscious control over their minds.

You could start the tape with saying:
Please switch your brain from beta brainwaves to alpha brainwaves.

A buddhist monk who learned about brainwaves could probably follow the instructions. You can't because you aren't in control of your mind.
Most neuroscientist also can't.

Therefore a tape gets designed to give you instructions that work.

It like telling you:
Please wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning.

There are people who have control of their minds and can follow your instructions and those who can't.
Funnily there was a study which suggest that people without college education do better on the task.

Waking up isn't a complex mental progress. It really isn't. You however have no way of breaking it down in a reductionist way that actually helps you with the task.
No understanding will help you with waking up at 3 o'clock without an alarm clock.
No trying to wake up at 3 o'clock will work either.