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Old 07-06-2009, 03:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Anyone photoread themselves?

I wanted to hear from some that do it themselves. Does it work? How fast can you do it?

Just wanted to hear from you.

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Old 07-06-2009, 01:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sigh... photoreading... my Nemesis. That or is it time that is my Nemesis? Needless to say, I have it and haven't finished it. Right now I just have other areas of my life that I am working on improving and haven't had time to do much more than the first 2 CDs. The concepts are pretty intruiging though and I look forward to mastering it.
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, I can't seem to understand what you asked. Could you elaborate on that question Jeremy?
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I suppose I was wanting to hear other's success stories.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have used it off and on, with success. It's a great way to take in the new books without having to buy them. I photo read Zero Limits months before I bought it, and was using Ho'oponopono right away.

But, the best story is my partner needed to read several stacks of books before taking a licensing exam. It had been a few years since she finished graduate school and didn't feel confident about the exam at all. The pressure was on because she would be fired if she didn't get her license by the end of the month.

I bought the Photo Reading course for her, two weeks before the exam date. The exam was scheduled one week before she would be fired if she failed.... No chance for a do-over.

She Photo Read at least 35 text books in two weeks, weekends only since she had a full time job and a 100 mile (each way) commute. She passed her exam with room to spare.

Now, I think she might have passed it anyway, but she swears she wouldn't have. This is not something we can ever really know.

-- PS, really good giveaways at the site below... but not photo reading....
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Bleh, it works but...

PhotoReading works, but I think most people have the wrong idea about it.

What most people don't realize is that you almost never need to get everything out of the book. I've had the same results I had PhotoReading as I have getting into a relaxed state and casually flipping through the pages. If you know what you're looking for, it'll often catch your eye while perusing the paragraphs. Most of the PhotoReading process just gets me past the 'I don't feel like reading this.' or 'I don't know what I'm looking for' states that prevent me from reading. You are simply looking for ideas in the book, and it's pointless to read every chapter if you are only looking for a specific tidbit.

Ever noticed how when you read a 'great book' you're only retaining a few bits of information from reading it? Like a certain concept or perspective that the author has and illustrates within his book? Within five minutes of picking up any book, you should know 1) who wrote it, 2) what's it about, and 3) why you are reading it. You don't have to "PhotoRead" to do that. Paul Scheele even says that books really dense with material take a much longer time to read. Most authors, however, will flesh out their ideas with lots of examples and explanations so that you 'get it'. Even textbooks will do this to illustrate scientific concepts. While the stories and analogies might be interesting, if you are pressed for time (most people in America) you really don't need to be reading the illustrations if you get it. Or if you are looking for evidence supporting a specific theory, you often don't need all the details of each point.

I WILL say, however, that PhotoReading is much better than any speed reading method I've learned. Even the 'speed reading' techniques are quickly mimicked simply by getting into the proper state for reading. And Paul Scheele is very good at doing guided meditations. Even if you have required literature, you can get the main points of what's going on in the story just by perusing over the pages in the right state of mind. Unfortunately, if you just pick up information with your subconscious mind, you'll often have to go back to the book to pick up the information you need. Which is great if you have the book handy and can use it.

PhotoReading is also reported to give people a false sense of confidence about what they've read. This is great if the person already knows what they think they don't (like your friend), however. I'm not going to claim that it isn't possible to absorb the entire book just by flipping through and seeing the pages, but if it is, most people have difficulty getting to that level and it takes months of daily practice.

PhotoReading sucks when you are trying to read to pass the time, as I often do. Let me know if you have other questions.
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KazeCraven, you seem to have a lot of experience with PhotoReading. Is there a way to learn how to do it without having to pay anything?
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KazeCraven, you seem to have a lot of experience with PhotoReading. Is there a way to learn how to do it without having to pay anything?
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Do they have books on Photoreading in libraries?
Not in mine. Anyone read a free e-book online that teaches it?
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Yes, there is a way. Or ways, rather.

Option1: Find a library that has the book, or a bookstore that'll let you read the book without paying for it (read what you need to know in the store). I'd just buy the --what, $15?-- book and read that if you aren't confident enough in the company to shell out $200 or whatever.

Option2: Get the basics from me or some other random person that's taken the course, which would be much much less effective. Plus I'm not about to try to tell you 'the secrets' of a product that is being promoted at this very site. I'd be surprised if I didn't get banned.

Generally speaking, free stuff is much worse than paid for stuff. Most people believe that this course is full of fluff but here's the key: The biggest obstacle to learning to PhotoRead is you already know how to read. You need a perspective shift, and that's not easy for most people. Once you 'get it', 95% of the stuff is irrelevant.
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Does anyone use photoreading for novels or poetry?
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Novels: Only to learn the main plot details. But if all you need is the plot, then you are probably just using the novel as a school tool (read: worthless).

Poetry: I don't know how you could. I suppose you could get the overall feeling of the poem, but there are many elements important to poetry that require a close reading of the poem, right? Like the structure, the lines pattern, etc. There are some techniques in the PhotoReading system that would help, like relaxation and stating your purpose, but the poem would have to be pretty long to warrant an official PhotoReading of it. It's like taking a jet to your local food market. You'd be spending so much time for the setup and landing that it could actually be a waste of time. And I certainly wouldn't recommend trying to absorb a book of unrelated poems in one sitting. You might be able to find connections between various poems that way, but that's about it.
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Speedreading poetry would be like chugging down a bottle of fine wine.

If it's not for a test or exam, why would you speedread novels or poetry? Isn't the enjoyment in the process of reading, discovering subtleties, letting the ideas grow roots in your mind?

Philosopher Arne Nęss once decided he would like to start reading poems. He ended up reading just one poem for an entire year, and by the end of the year he still felt delighted when reading it, still discovered new subtleties.

Oh hi by the way, I'm new to the forums. I just had to comment on this
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I felt the same way when I read this, but resisted the urge to comment speed reading poetry and fiction. Welcome to the forums.
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