Angela, Master!

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by Angela

Thanks, Rose! NLP for Dummies is a book in that black & yellow "for Dummies" collection; it's not part of the McKenna site -- sorry for that confusion.

Whoops! Then I should order that book. "For dummies" seems right for me

I'm interested in NLP. I hear so much about it everywhere. I'm very curious about your new coaching, looking forward to seeing how it will evolve. It's so fascinating to see you build your skills and acquire new tools, Angela.

I'm registered on the McKenna site, and have purchased downloads with no problem at all.

Is it okay to be registered without purchasing anything at all?

I'm not sure, but I think Paul McKenna implanted a post-hypnotic suggestion in my brain to make me hot for him. He's #1 on my "list" (you know, like Erin and the guys on the star trek series?)

I don't know about Erin's list... but... Worf...

[seeker5]

Angela,

How are you intending to use NLP? To me, NLP seems to be a very manipulative technique, where you manipulate other people. Yeah, it can be used on yourself, and I've done a little bit of that. But it seems predominately to be something you use that is very manipulative of other people.

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Angela

Paul McKenna Home Page

"I can make you thin"????

How is that for 100% responsibility?

[Angela]

"I can make you thin"????

How is that for 100% responsibility?

I know, huh? And as it turned out, he couldn't -- that whole system didn't work for me. (It's not just NLP, but a whole way of eating.) But I love the hypnosis meditation that came with the book. I'm not concerned about the whole "I can make you this or that" titles, but I can imagine that some people might put all the responsibility in his hands when he says things like that. Nevertheless, the meat of his books is all about taking matters into your hands, so it's a bit of a misnomer, I reckon.

A lot of the 'suggestion' that you get in a McKenna hypnosis meditation comes back to "absorbing the right amount of suggestion that is perfect for you and will benefit you most, right now." It's not like he's planting a suggestion for you to send him cash. He might have planted a sex bomb in my brain, though.

Originally Posted by seeker5

Angela,

How are you intending to use NLP? To me, NLP seems to be a very manipulative technique, where you manipulate other people. Yeah, it can be used on yourself, and I've done a little bit of that. But it seems predominately to be something you use that is very manipulative of other people.

NLP is the study of the structure of our subjective experience. It's a tool, and like many tools, it can be used for *good* or *evil*, but the practice itself is not inherently good or evil. Some people do use it for their personal benefit at the expense of others -- I'm thinking of what I read the other day exposing that guy Stefan the Pick-up Artist. That's probably what you mean by "manipulation," right?

And my intentions for it are more like "influence" for myself and for others. My intentions for using NLP are for win/win. If I ever find myself using NLP or any other tool for my personal benefit at the expense of others (win/lose) then I'll know I'm not living my purpose.

In my coaching, a win for the other person might be being able to let go of a limiting belief, overcoming a phobia, being free from habitual negative thought, or generating joy, power and abundance. For me, the win would be both the great feeling I'd get from influencing and facilitating those wins, and also getting paid for it.

In other areas of my life, a win for the other person might be easing the process for Danger Man of letting go of alcohol, or for helping my girlfriend build a fit, vital, fat-free body, or assisting my teammates with generating power and confidence on the tennis or volleyball court, or to help someone be more effective in their communication or thinking. A lot of people trust me already, so they're eager to allow me to "influence" them, so of course I wouldn't consider my practices to be at their expense. For me, the win is, again, the wonderful feeling of making a difference, and the extra-added bonus of getting to enjoy more power, effectiveness, joy, abundance, vitality, and fun in my relationships with those people. I would love for my relationship with Danger Man to be free of alcohol, and I would love for my tennis and volleyball partners to get more and more powerful and effective because then I get to have funner games. Etc., etc.

I've already been "using" NLP techniques in my coaching and in my life as they've seeped into my toolbelt intuitively or little techniques I've noticed here and there, like in the hypnosis meditations. Now I'm looking forward to deliberately and consciously applying them, with specific intent.

Does that answer your question?

[jendoe]

Originally Posted by Angela

Thanks, Jendoe, but you are absolutely perfect -- there's nothing to fix! And if there's something you want to deliberately affect about your reality, we can look at that.

*grin* Thanks

And thanks for the lead on McKenna... I will have to check him out. Did he do a TV series too based on "I can make you think"? I have this weird half-memory of seeing something very late at night, when I was half-asleep, that seemed to be using NLP techniques to help people with diet issues...

Being very late night and half asleep, I don't remember most of it - but the picture of the chocolate cake with worms in it - EWWW! THAT made an impression, and really did keep me away from chocolate for a bit

$20k for the conference *YIKES*. I have trouble imagining that I'd get enough from any conference for it to be worth THAT much, but who knows, I guess anything is possible

Really cool stuff, none-the-less!

[Holistic Star]

Wow Angela,

Looking forward to seeing how you implement this! You'll be like rocket fuel for personal development!

[Angela]

Originally Posted by jendoe

*grin* Thanks

And thanks for the lead on McKenna... I will have to check him out. Did he do a TV series too based on "I can make you think"? I have this weird half-memory of seeing something very late at night, when I was half-asleep, that seemed to be using NLP techniques to help people with diet issues...

Being very late night and half asleep, I don't remember most of it - but the picture of the chocolate cake with worms in it - EWWW! THAT made an impression, and really did keep me away from chocolate for a bit

$20k for the conference *YIKES*. I have trouble imagining that I'd get enough from any conference for it to be worth THAT much, but who knows, I guess anything is possible

Really cool stuff, none-the-less!

Yeah, THE VERY WEEKEND I downloaded his NLP download, his U.S. version of "I can make you thin" premiered -- and the download disappeared -- in fact, the whole WEBSITE disappeared and he put up a whole 'nuther one a few days later. It was one of those amazing timing things.

By the way, I like your title better: "I can make you think." !

I've used that worms and vomit technique to break my compulsions -- I learned it when I was teenager from the famous hypnotherapist Frank Genco. It works, at least temporarily! He also uses EFT, which I know has helped a lot of people around here.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Holistic Star

Wow Angela,

Looking forward to seeing how you implement this! You'll be like rocket fuel for personal development!

I LOVE that! ROCKET FUEL! RAWRRRRRR!