Originally Posted by Angela (Post 199994)

Most of the music I listen to is instrumental.

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1 (Post 199995)

I don't even know how to go about finding good music. Where do you find your instrumental stuff?

Originally Posted by jawillie (Post 200006)

Since my shift in awareness, I am the same way. Not sure if you will like this or not, (as I do not know what path you are on) but a cd I found and love is here: Dave Carroll Music.com He was inspired by Eckhart Tolle.

I also go instrumental more now.

Originally Posted by Lauxa (Post 200091)

I wouldn't want to switch to instrumental music, I enjoy singing along too much! I compiled a bunch of uplifting songs and posted on an older thread:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/p...nal-music.html

I don't still like all of those songs, but many are good.

I don't listen to music too much these days. The stuff on the radio is generally not so good and too many commercials, compiling my own playlists is too much time and effort. I like the music at my church, it is generally positive and good to replay in my head throughout the week.

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1 (Post 199991)

I have a huge problem with music these days. Every lyric is a cliché, literally Listen to almost every song and you'll hear a bunch of clichés. It's awful.

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1 (Post 199991)

Plus, so much of it has a victim mentality "why did you leave me" or they're bitter and hateful "I'm here to remind you of the mess you left when you went away"... It's judgmental, prejudiced, anti-women, anti-men, needy, or just plain stupid (any dance song and most rap) I really can't think of any productive music out there with any originality and I don't want to fill my brain with negative crap.

Originally Posted by chermille (Post 200103)

Well, I will have to explain my point of view about some things you said and with wich I disagree. I hope you will get it :)
First of all, if there are any english mistakes please understand, I am still learning.



In the first place, what are clichés?

Answers says:
" cliche n.
A trite or overused expression or idea: “Even while the phrase was degenerating to cliché in ordinary public use . . . scholars were giving it increasing attention” (Anthony Brandt)."

Why you give "cliché" a pejorative meaning?

Do new ideas and new ways of thinking really exist? Do you really think you are so different and original? Aren't you aware that humanity is always repeating itself? Do you think your feelings are something new?
No they are not. Hate is a cliché. Love is a cliché. Everything I say, everything you say are clichés. But there is nothing bad about it. We really cannot do anything about it and you know why, because before of us came a huge number of people that actually already expressed, felt the same way as we do. Everything is already "overused".
What makes something sound original is not the fact it is new (because it really isn't), it is the way the artist/person expressed this overused idea, feeling.
You do not invent anything new, you recreate based upon what you know. That is what makes everything a cliché.
So I really cannot agree with you. a cliché is not "awful", clichés are natural and if you don't accept them you will not accept your life.
That is why i simply love clichés :)



Aren't you like that sometimes? I am. I thought music was written by plain mortals, not gods or anything.
How can a normal person create something really supperior? No way. Everything you hear around you has all this human flaws you condemn.

So, it is ok if you don't like music and all its "banalities", it is just that you would want something supperior that is impossible to get. Do not misunderstand my point of view. I am sixteen but am too a "music snob". I am very difficult with my choices. However, I can't doom all music because I think it is "cliché" or because it expresses normal human feelings. I really cannot think of me as so supperior...
In another way of thinking, I cannot bare all of the "commercial music", simply because I consider it as an insult for my intelligence. By commercial music I do not mean "cliché", I mean without artistic value, in my point of view, of course.
And considering the instrumental music, it really is more easy to run away of the "commercial music", due to the fact it is harder to play very well an instrument than to sing some words. However, instrumental music is also the reflection of human feelings and thoughts. If you still can't bare clichés you should stay away from it too.

I hope you will understand

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1 (Post 199991)

I have a huge problem with music these days. Every lyric is a cliché, literally. Listen to almost every song and you'll hear a bunch of clichés. It's awful. Plus, so much of it has a victim mentality "why did you leave me" or they're bitter and hateful "I'm here to remind you of the mess you left when you went away"... It's judgmental, prejudiced, anti-women, anti-men, needy

Originally Posted by Rockchick26 (Post 200224)

Not all music is negative. But there is a difference between negative and venting your feelings. Music is expression,would you rather have these people hurting others? People can relate to lyrics like this too,thats why its so popular.



what makes dance songs stupid? I think anything that makes you dance is excellent,thats why music is so healing for us. Rap,i agree with you there cuz most rap i've heard is derogatory and negative in ways that are not thereaputic.



well what kind of music DO you like? just branch out from there. There are all kinds of positive inspirational unique artists out there.



What do you have against DJ's? They just mix songs together and make them more dance-able. I am not a fan of dance mixes that much either but it does have a purpose.

Originally Posted by watterman (Post 200327)

Productive music? I dont think music is here to be "productive", music should shine with emotions, it should has inspiration text.
But whats true is, that many artists sing only about love, hapinnes, etc...

Because their music have to interest the most people as it can.
And many people including me like good melody, because when i am doing something, I dont notice text, but only melody...

So for me music should have in first place: nice melody, then it should be relaxing (no electronic music "evil") and 3rd place: motivational text.

Good text i found only by some rap artists (but they sing most about alcohol, drogs, gangs, party and such things).

So I dont know what to imagine by "productive music"?

Btw. I am new here! And I am from the Czech republic, so i hope, that my english isnt so bad? :)

Originally Posted by ilovetoday (Post 200768)

I agree danny

Since I have realised the power of self talk and found the idea of mind movies with music that makes you feel in the background I started thinking of how all the negative songs we listen to can hardly be helpful in attracting good things. Feeling and imagining the lyrics-thinking of LOA- songs that i use to love on heartbreak and other negatives in life I have now cut out of my ipod. I still listen to a little bit of pop/charts music but it has have positive lyrics and also has to be very uplifting for me. I love old school music like New york new york, The Glenn Miller Band, Mac The Knife.

Originally Posted by Brutha (Post 200794)

If you don't want to understand the lyrics just pick a song in a language that you don't understand.

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1 (Post 200105)

No songs today even come close to being art.

Originally Posted by paeterus (Post 201083)

I listen to trance, dance, chill out, classical, foreign languages,and other such music. You don't have to listen to trashy pop songs, there are other genres out there that are no about clichés, i hate those "damn I'm an idiot for cheating on you please take me back coz i gots a six pack and all that in ya face ma sexy biatch girl I wanna tap yo' fine hiney oh yeh you will take me back coz i be all hot and you want all my money coz im a rich singer and i can buy you things and thats all you care about because you're just a materialistic *beeeeep* "

that stuff isn't for me.