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Old 11-29-2006, 04:49 PM
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If you had an opportunity to spend an hour with Napolean Hill or Tony Robbins who would would choose and why.
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Tony Robbins... because he's more fun than a corpse.

(Napoleon Hill has been dead for 36 years.)

Seriously though, I'd still pick Tony because I feel his work is more about who he is, whereas I see Hill's work as being about what he did.

Plus I really want to tell Tony to nuke the flash intro from his website.
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How about... Tony Robbins vs Steve Pavlina?
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How about... Tony Robbins vs Steve Pavlina?
Steve because he would know more about making a living using technology (web sites etc). What he's doing is more related to what I'm doing
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That's cheating though. I'd go with Hill because he's probably got a lot of ideas now that so much has changed.

What about Brian Tracy vs Zig Ziglar or something?

We should make a thread with a poll for these questions, but don't put them in personal effectiveness because they're kind of spammy. These should probably in the general section.
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What about Brian Tracy vs Zig Ziglar or something?
I'd pick Ziglar, partly because I think he would be more humorous and partly because I have yet to hear that he is so conservative that he couldn't admit that a liberal might have something good to say.

Oh, and I'd pick Robbins because he just seems so energetic, it has to be contagious.
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Plus I really want to tell Tony to nuke the flash intro from his website.

Damn straight - he really needs to hire some new people into his internet team!

I think I would pick Tony too, just because he is so good at communicating I think I would learn a lot more from him in one hour than anybody else!

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[edit] he needs to get rid of that music too...
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I'd prefer Tony's wife.
You know, it's funny how close those two resemble Ken and Barbie - both got the same Californian tan, bleached teeth, plastic surgery etc. They were made for each other in heaven!
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It's obvious that Robbins has gotten a lot of his ideas and thoughts from Napoleon Hill. He even mentioned Hill on Larry King one week. I admire Hill more because of who he studied and the conditions he was under. Keep in mind that Hill worked before the Industrial Revoltion, which made travel and communication much more difficult than today. Yet, he studied men who flourished during those times and he himself flourished. Hill studied Thomas Edison who had so much drive and desire in his life that he worked 20 hours a day for decades at a time. He patented an average of one invention per day for 30 years. I don't care what people say about Edison, he was brilliant.
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[quote=Amadeus;19453]. Keep in mind that Hill worked before the Industrial Revoltion, which made travel and communication much more difficult than today.

The Industrial Revolution was in the late 18th and early to mid 19th centuries. Napoleon Hill was an early 20th century writer.
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Maybe it stated to be in the history books, but I don't consider anything before WW2 the Industrial Revolution. Anyway, I think you knew what I meant.
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You are talking about the modern technical revolution, also known as the Information Age (think computers, fax machines, television sets).
The Industrial Revolution is all about steam engines and railway tracks.

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No I am not talking about the Information Age, because the Information Age was from the 1980s until now. The Americans finished what the Europeans started concerning the Industrial Revolution. My whole point of my original post was to say that Napoleon Hill had a great deal many more obstacles than Anthony Robbins does today when it comes to promoting their philosophies.

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The technical revolution is post WWII, and mostly about transistors and antibiotics. The latter information age is the progression from this, sometimes they are linked together.
What Robbins has produced is a massive machine for minting money - you get a highly suggestible, captive audience; hypnotise them and then hit them with a relentless sales pitch to attend more courses of steadily increasing cost - to the point of idiocy. This mass commercialism has also become an icon of American culture. Raw capitalism in action. (But the seminars are great).

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It's obvious that Robbins has gotten a lot of his ideas and thoughts from Napoleon Hill.
I believe that Jim Rohn was Tony Robbins mentor. I remember reading somewhere that he had attended a session with Rohn and this was the introduction to personal development for Tony when Tony was still in his teens.

I enjoy both Jim Rohn and Tony Robbins. Their work is useful to me. I buy what I desire to have and leave the rest or as one of my mentors said to me, "Take what you want and leave the rest."
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Mass commercialism has not become an icon of American culture. American mass commercialism maybe has become an icon in some people's lives in the US and other countries. Mentioning it here displays that you may have been caught up with it. A great deal of Americans don't let it run our lives. The only way you would know this is to live here.
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Robbins would kick Hill's ass hands down. He's a man mountain.
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Hollywood movies, fast food, born again televangelists are all features of a mass commercial culture. So too are NLP tapes, books, seminars and late night infomercials.
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