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[brendannz]

Originally Posted by rei

aww... the world in your head that much better?

They know me there

[cylon]

Say hi to those people in your head for me.

[brendannz]

[QUOTE=cylon;494977]

The best work is work that engages your passion,

I'm about a 20% pro artist and I'm trying to build that every year until I can get it full time, and I'm also developing in a few other areas.

I can't stand rules and regulations, but when I'm in charge things run pretty smoothly, assuming I'm enjoying my work. I can't answer to people though and that has gotten me in trouble a few times in the past.

I either switch off, or get cheeky without intending to.

[Kathe76]

ENFP
Extraverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving
ENFPs are initiators of change, keenly perceptive of possibilities. They energize and stimulate others through their contagious enthusiasm. They prefer the start-up phase of a project or relationship, and are tireless in the pursuit of new-found interests. ENFPs are able to anticipate the needs of others and to offer them needed help and appreciation. They bring zest, joy, liveliness, and a zany sense of fun to all aspects of their lives. They are at their best in situations that are fluid and changing, and that allow them to express their creativity and use their charisma. They tend to idealize people, and can be disappointed when reality fails to fulfill their expectations. They are easily frustrated if a project requires a great deal of follow-up or attention to detail

Here is mine. My best career choice is in communication. Duh!! Anyone who knows me personally knows that. But it was fun taking the quiz.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by brendannz

I'm about a 20% pro artist and I'm trying to build that every year until I can get it full time, and I'm also developing in a few other areas.

That's awesome. I was a graphic designer for years and years but got "economically displaced" last year... now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. You get to create your own stuff, and make money off of it. I had to create stuff for other people, which wasn't too bad in itself, but it was just a crazy situation and I got totally burned out.

Which was actually good for me, because I know how to avoid getting burned out in the future. Except it's almost killed my passion for graphic design. Which isn't helpful because that's what I'm trained in and what I went to school for, and I've had that career for over a decade.

Maybe personality types like us are best when we are just allowed to do what we want, and left alone to do that. We know best after all.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by rei

oh lawdy, me and authority don't mix. worse if the person acts like an authority.

i have become a huge behavior problem in school when i don't feel challenged enough... even, like, two years ago. got in trouble with the teachers and had to meet with the head of the department, it was a mess. you'd think i'd be old enough to filter and self-pace, but... they didn't appeal to my ideal of an enriching, engaging academic experience.

with you as well on the passion. i have so much trouble motivating myself to do things i'm lukewarm about.

I recall not so long ago memories of mocking authoritarian teachers, discussing the administrative problems in my high school with the headmaster, lambasting a teacher who claimed I should listen to him "because he's in charge". My problem wasn't necessarily that I wasn't being challenged enough (I wasn't very passionate about most of the things being taught anyway) the problem had always been with the Master and Obedient, Naive Student paradigm. Most kids do have this problem, it's just where they would express it with vandalism and snarky comments, I humiliated teachers who couldn't stand on the same intellectual level as me, on the principal of dissipating that illusion of authority.

I feel somewhat guilty over the way I behaved because it did make me look like an ass, but at the same time I'm glad I did what I did. Authority and respect should be earned, not demanded.

[shasah]

About a year ago I tested as INTJ, now I'm testing as ENTP. Since I'm being more social and I'm trying not to be judgmental like I used to be, I guess it's progress for me. Problem is there no sometimes so I had to pick the one closest to my situation. Day to day I/E/I/E/I LOL

[cylon]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

it's just where they would express it with vandalism and snarky comments, I humiliated teachers who couldn't stand on the same intellectual level as me, on the principal of dissipating that illusion of authority.

Oh they must have loved you.

My answer to high school was to graduate early. First two years were ok but that's all I could handle. Schools aren't really designed to bring out the best in students. If I ever have kids I'd like them to go to a school where they could sort of tailor it to the needs of my kid. This one size fits all stuff doesn't work so well.

[brendannz]

[QUOTE=cylon;494992]

You get to create your own stuff, and make money off of it.

Yeah, although I used to do 'my-own-headspace' works that never sold. Only to friends who knew me, so it had value to them, and now I do city scenes, of an awesome city, so people connect with the city, and the vibe of it in the works, plus they're a big van gogh-esque, and happy. So it's not entirely doing my own stuff, and not just supplying the demand, it's kind of doing my own stuff, while integrating it with the world around me..

Which was actually good for me, because I know how to avoid getting burned out in the future. Except it's almost killed my passion for graphic design. Which isn't helpful because that's what I'm trained in and what I went to school for, and I've had that career for over a decade.

You could always do work for yourself and enjoy it?

[rei]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

I recall not so long ago memories of mocking authoritarian teachers, discussing the administrative problems in my high school with the headmaster, lambasting a teacher who claimed I should listen to him "because he's in charge". My problem wasn't necessarily that I wasn't being challenged enough (I wasn't very passionate about most of the things being taught anyway) the problem had always been with the Master and Obedient, Naive Student paradigm. Most kids do have this problem, it's just where they would express it with vandalism and snarky comments, I humiliated teachers who couldn't stand on the same intellectual level as me, on the principal of dissipating that illusion of authority.

I feel somewhat guilty over the way I behaved because it did make me look like an ass, but at the same time I'm glad I did what I did. Authority and respect should be earned, not demanded.

my nephew is like this... i find it ironic though - you have to see the irony, being condescending or pompous about some other person's or paradigm's condescension... hehe...

i have had that a little bit too, more so when i was younger. but i was driven to excel academically, and i took on the notion that all the love/approval/affection would be withdrawn if i didn't... which is very twisted, but was an effective motivator for me to avoid *intentionally* talking back.

of course, the reason i had to meet with the department head was because i came across as "challenging and hostile" in the classroom. i didn't handle well how the expectations were much lower than they were in my previous graduate experience, and apparently i came across as if i had the same attitude you describe, but i was selfish about it - it wasn't a 'you shouldn't be doing this to everybody' thing. i was stressed to the point that i made it about injustice against me and only me.

not my proudest moment... but i do agree, i think it's ridiculous to respect someone based on their title. i respect all creatures, but that type of respect needs to be earned.

how did i handle the situation i got into it about? basically, i hardly participate in my classes. i bring things to do, and i just sit there and shut up because i will probably need to be on good terms with those folks in the future. not an enjoyable thing, but the long-term benefits make it worth the wilting effect (if you can imagine such a thing).

[cylon]

Originally Posted by brendannz

You could always do work for yourself and enjoy it?

Indeed.

[rei]

Originally Posted by shasah

About a year ago I tested as INTJ, now I'm testing as ENTP. Since I'm being more social and I'm trying not to be judgmental like I used to be, I guess it's progress for me. Problem is there no sometimes so I had to pick the one closest to my situation. Day to day I/E/I/E/I LOL

congrats on evidence of your progress

i used to test as INTP, been debating with someone in another forum about whether i ever really was INTP and how i may have switched types.

i admire you for being able to flip between E and I like that. maybe it's adding in the empathic stuff, but i find i have a very low tolerance for extroverted activities. i used to try and push myself, and that made me get b*tchy with people, so i know my limits

[brendannz]

Originally Posted by rei

i used to test as INTP, been debating with someone in another forum about whether i ever really was INTP and how i may have switched types.

I think I'm more of an INFP by nature, but I think I've become partly an INTP with age.. Maybe I'm like 60% feeler 40% thinker or 65 / 35

[brendannz]

Originally Posted by cylon

Indeed.

I'm a lightworker, so serving others makes me feel much more satisfied than serving myself. But I guess your problem's not the service, but it's being told what to do, I'm guessing.

[brendannz]

Originally Posted by rei

brendan, i'm not incredibly touchy feely either. but if we are introverted, that makes sense. the touchy-feely landscape is an internal one, and it's often so very rich that we don't see the need to express it outwardly...

That's insightful, thanks

[rei]

just wanna say, i bet it's especially difficult for male INFPs. at least in the Western culture that tells you macho is the only true masculinity (bollocks)... i am glad this thread evolved into a place where each of you lovely INFP dudes could discover you are not the only one who sees the world that way.

don't necessarily expect a response to this from any of you dudes i'm referring to. i know it might even be weird that i'm talking about it, but it's meant to be a positive thing. i love a sensitive man

[cylon]

Originally Posted by brendannz

I'm a lightworker, so serving others makes me feel much more satisfied than serving myself. But I guess your problem's not the service, but it's being told what to do, I'm guessing.

Well, imagine someone commissioned a painting, then you complete it and it looks fantastic. Then someone else comes in with an x-acto knife, and chips away at it. Then someone else comes in and chips away at it, and even the person who commissioned the painting chips away at it, until the painting is unrecognizable. Then they say it's not what they want anymore--they liked it the way you had it, they just want you to repaint it with different colors. In a fraction of a time it took you to create the painting to begin with.

That's what burned me out. I love art and creating designs, I just over time associated what I was good at, with that process. Freelance is a way better way to go about things because you have a lot of freedom, and you can say "no", or simply drop your client if they get difficult.

So that's the direction I'm most likely headed in. I'm really good at what I do, I just don't have patience for people who don't know what they're doing, telling me what to do. When I'm in charge, everyone is happy.

That felt surprisingly good to get off my chest. Not to bring the thread down or anything.

[rei]

thread ain't down dude. happy catharsis

as long as people are making requests or offering suggestions, and not barking orders, i can deal. but... when it comes to products of my creativity, i can stonewall or get super-protective if i feel like they want to rape my work.

i imagine that is along the same lines... it just feels quite sacred, some of it anyway, the stuff i feel like i didn't really write. who am i to revise it if it wasn't me who wrote it in the first place? so yeah, i think i understand where you're coming from...

[brendannz]

[QUOTE=cylon;495034]

Well, imagine someone commissioned a painting, then you complete it and it looks fantastic. Then someone else comes in with an x-acto knife, and chips away at it. Then someone else comes in and chips away at it, and even the person who commissioned the painting chips away at it, until the painting is unrecognizable. Then they say it's not what they want anymore--they liked it the way you had it, they just want you to repaint it with different colors. In a fraction of a time it took you to create the painting to begin with.

I hear ya man.. Actually galleries can be a bit like that, there's people who are experts at critiquing yet don't actually do anything creative themselves, they're in the biz to prove they're know it alls, but I've found my own ways to market and am doing it mainly outside of that..

I've received a fair bit of good constructive criticism along the way, and the stuff that helps, hurts a bit and can be hard to take, but it's still worth it.

That felt surprisingly good to get off my chest. Not to bring the thread down or anything.

Was interesting, you didn't bring me down.

[shasah]

Originally Posted by rei

congrats on evidence of your progress

i used to test as INTP, been debating with someone in another forum about whether i ever really was INTP and how i may have switched types.

i admire you for being able to flip between E and I like that. maybe it's adding in the empathic stuff, but i find i have a very low tolerance for extroverted activities. i used to try and push myself, and that made me get b*tchy with people, so i know my limits

I don't know, sometimes feels like two personalities. Which one will appear today??? JK I love people and activity and I'd probably drive myself nuts if I stayed in the I too long. A day or two is enough and then it's back out there again.

I would have taken you as an E. You seem very outgoing and social from here.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by rei

thread ain't down dude. happy catharsis

as long as people are making requests or offering suggestions, and not barking orders, i can deal. but... when it comes to products of my creativity, i can stonewall or get super-protective if i feel like they want to rape my work.

i imagine that is along the same lines... it just feels quite sacred, some of it anyway, the stuff i feel like i didn't really write. who am i to revise it if it wasn't me who wrote it in the first place? so yeah, i think i understand where you're coming from...

Yeah. If it's a collaboration, that's totally different because you're both helping each other out. In design it's usually the designer and the writer working together... and that can be a lot of fun. And I definitely had a lot of experiences like that during the 7 years I was at my last job.

It's just the people who aren't designers, or aren't writers, remaking your work because they think that's what they have to do to look like they are busy and working hard. Most of the revisions are completely unnecessary, and 9 times out of 10, you end up doing it over from scratch and it looks just about exactly as it did when you began.... just.... a little different so that everyone can say they kept you busy.

Blah. I'm complaining. I have to get past this though......I had several times where I was left alone, and I was allowed to do whatever I wanted. It wasn't all bad so I should be more realistic about the whole thing. I probably just stayed a bit longer than I should have, and I asked the universe to change things, and it pulled me right out.

[rei]

Originally Posted by shasah

I don't know, sometimes feels like two personalities. Which one will appear today??? JK I love people and activity and I'd probably drive myself nuts if I stayed in the I too long. A day or two is enough and then it's back out there again.

I would have taken you as an E. You seem very outgoing and social from here.

tee hee... in some settings i am outgoing. it's the in-person stuff that drains me, because most of the time i'm around more extroverted people. they draw energy from social interactions. i don't. so as they talk to me, they draw energy from it. guess this is sorta like psychic vampirism but it's mainstream and accepted or whatever. not saying it is wrong for them to replenish their energy as they need to, just wish there was some kind of technology i could use so they didn't use my energy to replenish their own... (okay, it's not really "my" energy, but they do draw energy from interacting with me, and i have yet to find a surefire way to replenish without being alone or only around introverts who don't siphon my energy or only around animals... i like to connect with people, i'm in school for a social service career, but i don't like huge doses of people face to face... i'm so contradictory )

but i dig the internet, it's great for introverts. we get the connections but the technology is a buffer for the social energy drain thing, and we can step away if we need to recharge. at least, that's how i see it...

[brendannz]

Originally Posted by rei

just wanna say, i bet it's especially difficult for male INFPs. at least in the Western culture that tells you macho is the only true masculinity (bollocks)... i am glad this thread evolved into a place where each of you lovely INFP dudes could discover you are not the only one who sees the world that way.

Thanks, you're starting to recognise what I've been going through

I'm 28, Being a teenager I was really in tune with my rebellious INFP side we talked about (I was a teenager after all)

But my early 20s were a particularly challenging time because all the expectations about 'true' masculinity.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by rei

my nephew is like this... i find it ironic though - you have to see the irony, being condescending or pompous about some other person's or paradigm's condescension... hehe...

i have had that a little bit too, more so when i was younger. but i was driven to excel academically, and i took on the notion that all the love/approval/affection would be withdrawn if i didn't... which is very twisted, but was an effective motivator for me to avoid *intentionally* talking back.

of course, the reason i had to meet with the department head was because i came across as "challenging and hostile" in the classroom. i didn't handle well how the expectations were much lower than they were in my previous graduate experience, and apparently i came across as if i had the same attitude you describe, but i was selfish about it - it wasn't a 'you shouldn't be doing this to everybody' thing. i was stressed to the point that i made it about injustice against me and only me.

not my proudest moment... but i do agree, i think it's ridiculous to respect someone based on their title. i respect all creatures, but that type of respect needs to be earned.

how did i handle the situation i got into it about? basically, i hardly participate in my classes. i bring things to do, and i just sit there and shut up because i will probably need to be on good terms with those folks in the future. not an enjoyable thing, but the long-term benefits make it worth the wilting effect (if you can imagine such a thing).

I see the irony now and I did see it then, I just didn't really care and I suppose I received a sense of twisted ego bloating from making myself look smarter than the teacher in front of everyone. I only did this to the nasty ones though and it did backfire on me once.

That must have been hard for you, not demanding an increase in the material difficulty every time you finished a test before everyone else

Cylon, I believe the type of school you are thinking of is called a magnet or charter school. I don't think it's quite the same thing, but they are similar to what you are looking for.

[shasah]

I have to say that I envy all of you your artistic side. I know what I like when I see it, but don't have the talent to create it. Art and music, I would love to be able to envision and create something beautiful.

[brendannz]

Originally Posted by shasah

I have to say that I envy all of you your artistic side. I know what I like when I see it, but don't have the talent to create it. Art and music, I would love to be able to envision and create something beautiful.

I suck with music.. I enjoy it, but I'm not so good at it.

So I have the side of being able to do it, and the side of appreciating it, wishing I could do it, too.

Everybody's got their own talents..

[rei]

Originally Posted by cylon

Yeah. If it's a collaboration, that's totally different because you're both helping each other out. In design it's usually the designer and the writer working together... and that can be a lot of fun. And I definitely had a lot of experiences like that during the 7 years I was at my last job.

It's just the people who aren't designers, or aren't writers, remaking your work because they think that's what they have to do to look like they are busy and working hard. Most of the revisions are completely unnecessary, and 9 times out of 10, you end up doing it over from scratch and it looks just about exactly as it did when you began.... just.... a little different so that everyone can say they kept you busy.

Blah. I'm complaining. I have to get past this though......I had several times where I was left alone, and I was allowed to do whatever I wanted. It wasn't all bad so I should be more realistic about the whole thing. I probably just stayed a bit longer than I should have, and I asked the universe to change things, and it pulled me right out.

yeah i can understand how annoying it would be for others to meddle...

i don't think you were complaining though - i thought you were expressing some built up frustration, on the verge of/in the middle of a breakthrough. why judge yourself for such an awesome burst of progress?

yeah, maybe i misread it, but i don't think i do... and i am not pushing you to continue, just suggesting that i don't know if it is helpful to accuse yourself of complaining. second time too...

sigh, such a fascinating discussion this has become. but i'm exhausted, so i find myself wanting to stay even though i need to sleep. my intentions and desire to keep chatting with you awesome people still stand, even if i am about to go...

[shasah]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

Cylon, I believe the type of school you are thinking of is called a magnet or charter school. I don't think it's quite the same thing, but they are similar to what you are looking for.

The magnet schools are great. They don't teach to the lowest common denominator like a lot of the schools now. Problem can be when the kids get to college though. Depends on their drive. I have one that thrives in college and one that was bored silly. And they both went to the same magnet school.

[cylon]

Being an artist is great..... I'm more into my songrwriting than my design really but there is that whole "perfectionistic" element that makes it hard for me to stop a piece, and start a new one. Always seeking perfection. Do you guys have that challenge? It was in the personality description for the type I was classified as.

Interestingly, things that are perfect are usually BORING. It's the stuff that is slightly off and human that engages people in the first place.

Am I just realizing this? I think I am. I think I just realized this right now.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by rei

tee hee... in some settings i am outgoing. it's the in-person stuff that drains me, because most of the time i'm around more extroverted people. they draw energy from social interactions. i don't. so as they talk to me, they draw energy from it. guess this is sorta like psychic vampirism but it's mainstream and accepted or whatever. not saying it is wrong for them to replenish their energy as they need to, just wish there was some kind of technology i could use so they didn't use my energy to replenish their own... (okay, it's not really "my" energy, but they do draw energy from interacting with me, and i have yet to find a surefire way to replenish without being alone or only around introverts who don't siphon my energy or only around animals... i like to connect with people, i'm in school for a social service career, but i don't like huge doses of people face to face... i'm so contradictory )

but i dig the internet, it's great for introverts. we get the connections but the technology is a buffer for the social energy drain thing, and we can step away if we need to recharge. at least, that's how i see it...

Supposedly Nikola Tesla invented a device (electrical, of course) that would 'recharge' you, allowing you to be fully rested on just one hour of sleep every 24 hours. At first I thought that would be a wonderful invention for us introverts, but then I realized the extroverts would probably be using it too. Social situations would probably be twice as draining.