Money Comparison between me and Steve Pavlina

[roxyruby]

Steve Pavlina says in his book that he earned $167 within the first 6 months of his website.

I've had my social anxiety "niche" for just over a year now, most of which has been just YouTube and Twitter, I began the website recently a few months ago.

I don't know exactly how much I have made, but from affiliate sales, donations, and google adsense, maybe about $350? That's within 12 months. Am I on the right track in comparison to Steve Pavlina and his online endeavors?

Everything I'm already doing ticks all the boxes for passion, loving what I'm doing, making a positive impact on the world, contributing

Although I'm not receiving much. If Steve Pavlina hadn't said he'd only made $167 within the first 6 months, I might have given up hope, but that made me see maybe I am on the right track and this is normal at first.

After just reading his book about medium and message, I thought ok Maybe I've already got the right medium and message for me and it's what I'm doing. It does fulfill me with self expression...

Yet it doesn't meet my needs with the money I need. But maybe in comparison to Steve Pavlina's Results within his first year I'm doing ok?

& I have made some money online from other things, the social anxiety thing is just the main thing I am doing right now

[Cochonette]

from affiliate sales, donations, and google adsense, maybe about $350? That's within 12 months.

Wow, that sounds pretty good. I don't think I could do that. Just from those three things? That sounds pretty swell. What is your hope, if I may ask? Your goal? To make it big like Steve? $350 from online sounds like quite an accomplishment to me, now as for future measurements, that depends on what you're hoping to get out of this.

[SatvikBeri]

The important thing, Roxy, is your growth curve. How has your traffic/revenue changed over time? Is it still going up or is it stagnating now?

[Andrew Brunelle]

Originally Posted by SatvikBeri

The important thing, Roxy, is your growth curve. How has your traffic/revenue changed over time? Is it still going up or is it stagnating now?

At least you are making something. You are getting money from an online endeavor. Sure, it's not much, but if you find ways to increase traffic, you can make much more money. You just have to know how to leverage that traffic. I'm sure some of Steve's articles may help, and you might as well get a book or two on the subject of building income from a website.

It would be nice to earn what Steve earns in a year, but realize all the hard work that went into it. And he had business experience before and a wide array of knowledge when it comes to programming and creating websites. He has a competitive advantage when it comes to computer knowledge, but there's no reason why we can't all learn these things he knows. It's just a matter of putting in the time and wanting to learn it.

Or you could always hire someone to optimize your site. It all depends how much money you have and how much you are willing to work at monetizing your site. Risk/reward kind of stuff. I have not monetized my site, but it is only because I cannot get enough traffic to make the effort justifiable. If you are getting substantial traffic, it is certainly worth optimizing your monetization methods.

[Cochonette]

Andrew... dude... your website looks cool.

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by SatvikBeri

The important thing, Roxy, is your growth curve. How has your traffic/revenue changed over time? Is it still going up or is it stagnating now?

In the past several weeks I received a LOT in donations, from putting lots of donate buttons on my website and asking for donations.

Funny enough I received some big donations when some people accidentally found out that I was depressed about not making much money in some online ranting LOL but I think mostly it was because these people felt they had received a lot of value from me

So yes the growth curve suddenly went up when I got my website with donate buttons and google ad-sense particularly.

YouTube traffic I get about 400 views a day. My website about 100-150 views a day.
My website used to be about 200 views per day for a few weeks, I don't know why. Maybe it was everyone from YouTube that knew me, going to my site, reading everything, then abandoning the website cause they had finished reading everything lol

My Twitter following goes up I don't know, by about 10-20 people a day?

My YouTube Subscribers go up by a few subscribers per day to 5 subscribers per day.

[roxyruby]

I'm going to do as Steve Pavlina suggested and get out books from the library to read on Business/Marketing/Online Marketing etc

I've read some books but not hundreds like SP has so I guess I need to read many, many books to become successful.

I research the books on Amazon before trying to find them in local libraries
^ ^ Isn't it so great that anyone can do this for free.

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

Steve Pavlina says in his book that he earned $167 within the first 6 months of his website.

I've had my social anxiety "niche" for just over a year now, most of which has been just YouTube and Twitter, I began the website recently a few months ago.

I don't know exactly how much I have made, but from affiliate sales, donations, and google adsense, maybe about $350? That's within 12 months. Am I on the right track in comparison to Steve Pavlina and his online endeavors?

Everything I'm already doing ticks all the boxes for passion, loving what I'm doing, making a positive impact on the world, contributing

Although I'm not receiving much. If Steve Pavlina hadn't said he'd only made $167 within the first 6 months, I might have given up hope, but that made me see maybe I am on the right track and this is normal at first.

After just reading his book about medium and message, I thought ok Maybe I've already got the right medium and message for me and it's what I'm doing. It does fulfill me with self expression...

Yet it doesn't meet my needs with the money I need. But maybe in comparison to Steve Pavlina's Results within his first year I'm doing ok?

& I have made some money online from other things, the social anxiety thing is just the main thing I am doing right now

Hey Roxy, I admire how you've done. I've been blogging for more than a year, though I wasn't doing it that well, haha. I haven't really earnt anything at all. But I don't count it as a failure in any way; I've been learning how to blog and how not to blog, how to write, how to please my readers, how to take my work seriously and how not to take it seriously, how to focus on contribution and how to avoid feeding the ego with what I write, how to be nice and to stop shutting myself off from the world (well I was working on that all this last year, in and out of my blog, I'm so happy I'm making such large strides). Particularly I'm seeing nowadays that I really need to think of my business as a business and not as some game. Due to my lack of rootedness I actually seemed to have some fear of getting "real" and doing something that would matter in the real world... like this inability to really force my presence into the physical plane... i'm so happy flapping around in the celestial planes, lol, but that's not possible when I have an Earth persona to nurture.

So no failure. Just lessons

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

Hey Roxy, I admire how you've done. I've been blogging for more than a year, though I wasn't doing it that well, haha. I haven't really earnt anything at all. But I don't count it as a failure in any way; I've been learning how to blog and how not to blog, how to write, how to please my readers, how to take my work seriously and how not to take it seriously, how to focus on contribution and how to avoid feeding the ego with what I write, how to be nice and to stop shutting myself off from the world (well I was working on that all this last year, in and out of my blog, I'm so happy I'm making such large strides). Particularly I'm seeing nowadays that I really need to think of my business as a business and not as some game. Due to my lack of rootedness I actually seemed to have some fear of getting "real" and doing something that would matter in the real world... like this inability to really force my presence into the physical plane... i'm so happy flapping around in the celestial planes, lol, but that's not possible when I have an Earth persona to nurture.

So no failure. Just lessons

That's ok Andrew. But I don't have a job. I live with my parents. So I have an advantage that I've been doing this sort of full time for a year.
Do you have a job or something?

So I'm lucky that I can work on my online stuff all the time, although I'm poor and do not do the spending and fun that most girls my age in this country are!

So I'm sort of "building my business" at the expense of "not having a real life" LOL ^ ^

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

That's ok Andrew. But I don't have a job. I live with my parents. So I have an advantage that I've been doing this sort of full time for a year.
Do you have a job or something?

No!! Haha. But I haven't been really full time on my site. I think what I did I could have done with a job as well... i didn't want to stress myself out though.

I guess it just shows there is a natural rhythm to these things.. at least for me. I can't do one thing all the time that well. I need variety... well at least that's my interpretation...

So I'm lucky that I can work on my online stuff all the time, although I'm poor and do not do the spending and fun that most girls my age in this country are!

So I'm sort of "building my business" at the expense of "not having a real life" LOL ^ ^

"Real life" is overrated my lady... trust me

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

No!! Haha. But I haven't been really full time on my site. I think what I did I could have done with a job as well... i didn't want to stress myself out though.

I guess it just shows there is a natural rhythm to these things.. at least for me. I can't do one thing all the time that well. I need variety... well at least that's my interpretation...

"Real life" is overrated my lady... trust me

I think I wasn't clear with what I meant though. I don't work on my website and everything full time.

I just have learned and implemented some things SO THAT when I do post on my website, it's more likely to earn me money.

So I might be writing just as much as you are, I don't know!

Is real life overrated? I hope so ^ ^

Gubb Gubb how do you make money? Do you live with your parents like me? Or have a job?

[Andrew Gubb]

parents. i have a plan to write for constant-content.com and live independently REAL soon though.

by the way if you check that place out and it appeals, ask me for a referral link and i'll get paid commissions k?

love

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

parents. i have a plan to write for constant-content.com and live independently REAL soon though.

by the way if you check that place out and it appeals, ask me for a referral link and i'll get paid commissions k?

love

ok Gubb Gubb, I am proud of you! *hugs* if I can help you in any way let me know

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

ok Gubb Gubb, I am proud of you! *hugs* if I can help you in any way let me know

Thanks my beautiful, it is good to know I have your support. I'll let you know how it goes

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

Thanks my beautiful, it is good to know I have your support. I'll let you know how it goes

"My Beautiful" do you really think thats acceptable?

Gubb Gubb would you like me to make you some Vision pictures of you having the success that you would like?

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

"My Beautiful" do you really think thats acceptable?

In principle yes, but you have a right to decide how you would like to be addressed by me. My lady.

Gubb Gubb would you like me to make you some Vision pictures of you having the success that you would like?

Sounds fun I would love that Thanks!

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

In principle yes, but you have a right to decide how you would like to be addressed by me. My lady.


Sounds fun I would love that Thanks!

That's actually sexual harassment and even worse if the person has a partner which I do

Ok Gubb Gubb I'll PM you my email address for you to send me some pics of your self to and a description of your dream life

[ssandra]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

That's actually sexual harassment and even worse if the person has a partner which I do

Seriously? You consider other people telling you you are beautiful or saying "my lady" sexual harassment??? Or even worse? What would be worse?

Did you make a joke I didn't get?

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by ssandra

Seriously? You consider other people telling you you are beautiful or saying "my lady" sexual harassment??? Or even worse? What would be worse?

Did you make a joke I didn't get?

He didn't say I was beautiful he called me "my beautiful"

To me that sounds more like he is claiming me as a sort of girlfriend of his or something, not a compliment

Wouldn't you, and your partner be upset or unhappy with it if another guy called you "my beautiful" or "my lady"?

Sexual Harassment from Wikipedia:

Great Gallant - This mostly verbal harassment involves excessive compliments and personal comments that focus on appearance and gender, and are out of place or embarrassing to the recipient. Such comments are sometimes accompanied by leering looks.

or

Unintentional - Acts or comments of a sexual nature, not intended to harass, can constitute sexual harassment if another person feels uncomfortable with such subjects.

[ssandra]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

Sexual Harassment from Wikipedia:

I wasn't asking what the definition of sexual harassment was... I was wondering if you truly considered his comment to be sexual harassing.

Originally Posted by roxyruby

He didn't say I was beautiful he called me "his beautiful"

True, he said My Beautiful.

Do you truly consider that to be sexual harassment? Do you feel offended or uncomfortable by such a comment?

I'm not saying that to put you in a spot, or to make you feel uncomfortable.

I think it is great that you stand up for yourself if you truly feel that way.

From my perspective however, it is strange to see anybody feeling offended or harassed by such a comment...

So if you truly do, I hope you can explain to me why, because I am truly curious to understand this from your point of view.

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by ssandra

I wasn't asking what the definition of sexual harassment was... I was wondering if you truly considered his comment to be sexual harassing.



True, he said My Beautiful.

Do you truly consider that to be sexual harassment? Do you feel offended or uncomfortable by such a comment?

I'm not saying that to put you in a spot, or to make you feel uncomfortable.

I think it is great that you stand up for yourself if you truly feel that way.

From my perspective however, it is strange to see anybody feeling offended or harassed by such a comment...

So if you truly do, I hope you can explain to me why, because I am truly curious to understand this from your point of view.

Yes I felt like it based on the definitions I've read of sexual harassment.

I already explained why.

If I said to any of the guys here "Hey My Handsome" I would consider that behavior from my self inappropriate or sexual harassment.

Would you say comments like that to your male friends and would your partner be ok with it? "Hey My Handsome" or "Hey My Man"

[ssandra]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

Yes I felt like it based on the definitions I've read of sexual harassment.

I already explained why.

If I said to any of the guys here "Hey My Handsome" I would consider that behavior from my self inappropriate or sexual harassment.

Would you say comments like that to your male friends and would your partner be ok with it? "Hey My Handsome" or "Hey My Man"

It would depend on me a lot on how I feel it was intended. If it made me feel uncomfortable, I'd ask them to stop.
Only if they wouldn't stop, I'd might feel like being harassed.

I usually do not base how I feel on other peoples definitions. I normally use my own opinions and thoughts to decide how I feel. That is where my question came from.

I'd be ok with friends calling me My Beautiful, or my husband My Handsome. But then again, I'm not jealous at all, and neither is he.

Even if I wouldn't be ok with that, I'd still not consider it harassment. For me, harassment only starts when it is clear that somebody isn't ok with it. For example, if Andrew would continue doing it, after you've told him NO, that would be harassment for me.

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by ssandra

It would depend on me a lot on how I feel it was intended. If it made me feel uncomfortable, I'd ask them to stop.
Only if they wouldn't stop, I'd might feel like being harassed.

I usually do not base how I feel on other peoples definitions. I normally use my own opinions and thoughts to decide how I feel. That is where my question came from.

I'd be ok with friends calling me My Beautiful, or my husband My Handsome. But then again, I'm not jealous at all, and neither is he.

Even if I wouldn't be ok with that, I'd still not consider it harassment. For me, harassment only starts when it is clear that somebody isn't ok with it. For example, if Andrew would continue doing it, after you've told him NO, that would be harassment for me.

I think you're right. So AG please stop talking to me like that cause it's inappropriate to me as a friend

Although when he first said "my beautiful" to me I said "do you really think thats acceptable???"
then he continued by calling me "my lady"

So there was a continuation there after my communication with him that it wasn't acceptable to me

[ssandra]

I think this is very interesting. I'm going to make a new thread about sexual harassment Very interesting to see other peoples definitions regarding this, especially when they are different from my own.

[ssandra]

This is the link for those interested:

Sexual Harassment


Roxyruby, I do want to applaud you for standing up for yourself and standing up for what you believe!! You go girl!!

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by ssandra

This is the link for those interested:

Sexual Harassment


Roxyruby, I do want to applaud you for standing up for yourself and standing up for what you believe!! You go girl!!

Thank you I am doing my best to live by Steve Pavlinas principles of truth and courage, which were already values to me, but reading him talk about it encouraged me

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

That's actually sexual harassment and even worse if the person has a partner which I do

It's not, Roxy, you're overreacting.

Ok Gubb Gubb I'll PM you my email address for you to send me some pics of your self to and a description of your dream life

Thanks

[Andrew Gubb]

I think you're right. So AG please stop talking to me like that cause it's inappropriate to me as a friend

Sure. And if you don't like my lady I won't either.

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

It's not, Roxy, you're overreacting.


Thanks

“You’re too sensitive.” “You’re overreacting” “There’s nothing to cry about.” “You’re upset for no reason.” “You need to buck up and stop being a drama queen.” etc etc etc.
These (and many others) are examples of invalidation of feelings. And invalidation of feelings IS emotional abuse.

[roxyruby]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

Sure. And if you don't like my lady I won't either.

Thank you. ^ ^ *Hugs*