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Old 10-27-2009, 02:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default I just ordered my copy!

it will arrive November 24th - December 16th. Quite a long time.. but it'll fly by for sure

Since I have to wait a while to receive it, could somebody please tell me;

Is Truth = honesty Love = connection with others and Power = umm, ability to influence, give

I guess if that's the model, I'm probably very well aligned with Truth, getting there with Love, and need to work on my power.. Or something along those lines..

I had this other model that relationships are built upon a healthy balance of trust and power.

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I guess if that's the model, I'm probably very well aligned with Truth, getting there with Love, and need to work on my power.. Or something along those lines..
That makes two of us!
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I can't wait for the book to arrive
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I hope you enjoy the book and find the content useful. I recommend the book to my friends.
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Received copy today! much earlier than expected, WOOHOOO!!
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I just ordered my book last week and it's supposed to arrive some time this week. I can't wait. Steve seems like someone who has really gotten his stuff together.
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I got mine yesterday, and I'm already a hundred pages in
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I'm probably very well aligned with Truth, getting there with Love, and need to work on my power..
Hey, brendanzz. I guess you've read the book by now?

Personally I think you're wrong about the truth aspect.
You strike me as the kind of person who wouldn't say anything when somebody is pissing you off.

Like you, I thought I was high on truth but low on power and love. Turns out I'm pretty high on power. I'm more disciplined and focused than almost anybody I've ever met. I suspect you are like this too.

It's TRUTH I was lacking in and I see that in you. You are not factually dishonest. You are emotionally dishonest. You're nervousness that I think you described in the past(?) is from hiding how you truly feel.

This post is kind of abrupt, but it hit me like a ton of bricks where you are at.
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This post is kind of abrupt, but it hit me like a ton of bricks where you are at.
Yes, your post is abrupt, but I don't mind the feedback at all, so I'll have a think about it, maybe get back to you after I've thought about it more. The self-evaluation could be really useful..

Since you've been banned and unbanned I think I've improved my life quite a bit, & found more ways to have fun and stuff..

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Cool man.

I got a bit over-excited there. I do apologize.
If I may add one thing: there's nothing to think about. Rather feel it, know it. Feel the emotion in you.

To prove it think of somebody you dislike and write down what you REALLY think of them. And also do it for somebody you put on a pedestal. (How much you worship them and want to be them)

That will bring up the hidden feelings.
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Cool man.

I got a bit over-excited there. I do apologize.
It's alright, no offense taken.. It just made me question whether it was true or not.. Maybe some truth in it. The way you said "I used to think I was this way, but.." made it sound like you weren't really making an attack..

Basically, originally (about 4 months ago now) I stated I was all truth and no power, and I don't think it's that I have no power. It's that I give my power away, and also aren't open with myself about my passions. These are going by SPs latest posts "how you give your power away" and also "broadcast your desires"

I don't know if I am emotionally dishonest but I'll think about that one, I'm definitely factually honest though..

But it seems like serial killers, shoplifters etc. are probably very emotionally honest people, and possibly not factually honest people.

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I'll do this exercise sometime (not right now, as I'm working). But honestly, I have nobody in my life that I dislike, so I'll have to use people from the past.

I don't know if I am emotionally dishonest, but I've thought about the people who've pissed me off, and maybe they were pissed off because I just ignore them if they're acting that way, and nothing is more annoying than being ignored really, even if they deserve to be. Some of he more annoying people were that way because I didn't know how to deal with them, and just gave away my power.

Think it's really a matter of saying "what are my passions" and "am I living congruently with them?"..

I've been making good progress really, so plan on keeping making good progress..

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It's that I give my power away, and also aren't open with myself about my passions. These are going by SPs latest posts "how you give your power away" and also "broadcast your desires"
What do you mean, you give away your power?

edit: -> incidentally, Steve Pavlina is somebody you give your power away to.

Do you mean you put people on a pedestal without acknowledging it (to yourself, or anyone)!

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I don't know if I am emotionally dishonest but I'll think about that one
This isn't something to think about. It's something to feel. Not in a namby pamby "oooh I'm in touch with my feelings" way.

We're talking about "let me give you a piece of my mind" kind of stuff.

That little exercise will help you know what I'm talking about.

Don't hold back and be polite. You're writing it down. Nobody will ever know. Let it out. Everything. You need to know how you really feel behind the polite mask. Then you will have something to work with rather than fumbling around in the dark wondering why you feel the way you do and "give your power away."

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I'm definitely factually honest though..
Factual honesty is overrated.

We get it drummed into us in schools, but it's a load of B.S. One can be factually honest and totally skirt around the real issues.
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But it seems like serial killers, shoplifters etc. are probably very emotionally honest people, and possibly not factually honest people.
This is rhubarb. Emotional honesty means acknowledging your true feelings and letting them have their day in court. (Usually when that happens they soften and take on a mature form). It doesn't mean rampaging willy-nilly.

When you acknowledge a feeling you OWN it. You control your actions. Before you own your feelings they leak out in covert passive aggressive ways.

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I'll do this exercise sometime (not right now, as I'm working). But honestly, I have nobody in my life that I dislike, so I'll have to use people from the past.
a) You're not working. You're browsing this forum. Do you see how you just lied to yourself and me?! You're not going to do the exercise, you just don't have the honesty to say "No, I don't want to." Be HONEST.

You DO NOT want to do the exercise! It seems ridiculous to you, AND you're pissed off at me for forcing myself on you.

b) You're lying!!!

Stop kidding yourself!
If nothing else I'm going to make you hate ME.
Is there nobody in your life who TRIGGERS you emotionally?
Who do you give your power away to? That's where to start.

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I don't know if I am emotionally dishonest, but I've thought about the people who've pissed me off, and maybe they were pissed off
Are you pissed off or are they pissed off?

We're talking about people who piss you off.

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because I just ignore them if they're acting that way, and nothing is more annoying than being ignored really, even if they deserve to be. Some of he more annoying people were that way because I didn't know how to deal with them, and just gave away my power.
I don't know what you're talking about.

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Think it's really a matter of saying "what are my passions" and "am I living congruently with them?"..
These are just words.

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I've been making good progress really, so plan on keeping making good progress..
But you're still giving your power away, as you put it?

Are you sure you haven't just got better at avoiding the real issue?

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. KNOW IT

More questions:
What are your darkest, deepest worries?
If you had absolute power (like psychic control) over people, what would you do?
What do you feel compelled to lie about?
What are you secretly ashamed of?

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Do you mean you put people on a pedestal without acknowledging it (to yourself, or anyone)!
Possibly. I saw things very clearly when I woke up this morning and was halfway between asleep and awake..

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You DO NOT want to do the exercise! It seems ridiculous to you, AND you're pissed off at me for forcing myself on you.

b) You're lying!!!
Youre right I wasn't working, but I was expected to be working at the time I made that post (even though I wasn't) So I said to myself that I'll do the exercise later.

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Who do you give your power away to? That's where to start.
Plenty of people have pissed me off in my life... But I don't have anyone in my everyday life right now who pisses me off..

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What are your darkest, deepest worries?
If you had absolute power (like psychic control) over people, what would you do?
What do you feel compelled to lie about?
What are you secretly ashamed of?
will do the exercise later on and get back to you when I've done it, probably not with the answers, but to say that the exercise was a good exercise, or I'll hate you for wasting my time with a bad exercise

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I think I'm able to read his articles, knowing that he's just one person, and not really any kind of deity

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Are you pissed off or are they pissed off?
Just noticed I mostly just like nice people. I'm not sure if that's such a good thing, because you've been a bit un-nice in this post, and I've found the questions you asked to be very revealing.. Guess there's a time for encouragement and a time for brutal honesty

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I seem to be getting better at enjoying life..

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More questions:
What are your darkest, deepest worries?
If you had absolute power (like psychic control) over people, what would you do?
What do you feel compelled to lie about?
What are you secretly ashamed of?
I answered these questions to myself, and found the answers to be helpful and not exactly what I expected.

Thanks for feedback
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Just noticed I mostly just like nice people. I'm not sure if that's such a good thing, because you've been a bit un-nice in this post, and I've found the questions you asked to be very revealing.. Guess there's a time for encouragement and a time for brutal honesty
I'm trying to bring you awareness that you've disowned your inner A**hole.

That's why it triggers you when you notice it in others. If you get emotional about something that other people don't it's a sure sign of a disowned aspect of yourself.

And nobody is saying you should like douchebags, but you might if you realise - you ARE a douchebag too. You just pretend not to be.

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I'm trying to bring you awareness that you've disowned your inner A**hole.
I used to be a real a**hole in high school. But really I think I was an a**hole because I was scared, and felt like people were being an a**hole to me. Since being an a**hole, I thought I needed to try harder to become nicer. Maybe sometimes I've been nice out of fear too, and I've been an a**hole out of fear. So it's probably not the niceness or the A**hole, it's the fear..

Maybe there's a time to be nice, and a time to be an a**hole, and it's just a matter of finding the appropriate time, or something..

You might be right on this one about disowning the inner A**hole, I'm not sure, I'll have a think about it..

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Yep, you're right, I've recently brought this issue to my attention. Needing myself to be perfect and needing others to be perfect. Just accept that I'm not perfect and others aren't perfect either, and then you don't need to be disappointed with yourself and others, from false and unrealistic expectations... So you can enjoy the moment more..

Also need to accept responsibility, because most of the time people were douchebags towards me, it was because I didn't set boundaries and allowed it to be that way.

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Interesting story here.

In heroic societies (Helenic Greece, Viking, and to some degree Roman, etc.) the ruling class, the elite, the masters would often call themselves the Truthful Ones.

Why? Because the masters did not pretend to be something they were not. The slave class were considered deceptive, untrustworthy because they would sneakily hide their malevolent intentions behind a guise of "niceness"

Meanwhile the masters were proud and joyful and dominant and if they expressed affection - it's because they were feeling affection and genuine warmth. They expressed affection in the knowledge that if they wanted to they could also break that person.

Slaves do what they think other people want them to. For that reason their word can't be taken. In the Roman justice system, evidence from a slave on a legal matter could not be accepted unless it was extracted via torture because they thought otherwise they would just say what people wanted them to, rather than the truth.

Illustration of what I'm talking about. I'm not into the torture thing so much, but they have a point.
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It's less than $11 on Amazon for the paperback version. If that's something you have to save up for, how do you eat I wonder?

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If it's a real financial hardship, just PM me your mailing address, and I'll ship you a free copy. I still have some extras in my garage.
Yes I live on the street with just my laptop and I have to travel around to different Mcdonalds using the Free wifi connection (jokies)

No I'm just a bit obsessive with not spending more than I earn and either saving up my money or putting it into my business

I don't know I would feel sort of guilty getting it for free when everyone else had to pay for it

but I guess it would only be a good thing

It is so nice how generous some people are

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I recently bought my copy and at the pace I am going I should finish reading the book in time for CGW
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