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Savage · 09-19-2008, 05:02 PM

Apparently Amazon is already shipping my book, and some people said they already received it. I asked Hay House what was going on and was told that apparently my book shipped 6 weeks early. I'll be talking to their sales guy this afternoon to get the details. I have no idea why they'd ship the book early... especially w/o telling me.

I'm still in the dark about what's going on, but I should know the details by the end of the day.

If anyone happens by a major bookstore today (like Borders or Barnes & Noble), can you confirm whether or not my book is on the shelf in the self-help section?

Once I have all the facts -- and if I can confirm that the book has indeed launched -- I'll obviously have to accelerate my plans quite a bit. The original launch date was October 15th.

But for now it looks like you can get the book sooner rather than later, at least through Amazon.

I may have to tone down my use of the LoA next time.

Lenie · 09-19-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

I'm still in the dark about what's going on, but I should know the details by the end of the day.

If anyone happens by a major bookstore today (like Borders or Barnes & Noble), can you confirm whether or not my book is on the shelf in the self-help section?

I may have to tone down my use of the LoA next time.

Well as I like to say, "That's a good problem to have." I just checked with my local Books-A-Million, where I have mine pre-ordered, and nothing yet

"It looks like it's 'in pending.' It should be on the truck next Tuesday." (My friend Anne works there and she ordered it.)

But lucky ones that did get it.

MasterD · 09-19-2008, 05:13 PM

My shipping estimate was still at October 15. Then I cancelled the order and reordered it and now the shipping estimate is September 22.

Dan.Linehan · 09-19-2008, 05:16 PM

My card was billed yesterday for my pre-order via Amazon. If previously pre-ordered books are any indication, the book will arrive today or tomorrow.

Savage · 09-19-2008, 05:46 PM

My local Borders doesn't have it yet, so it might just be Amazon that's shipping ahead of schedule. I'll need to get the details from Hay House to figure out what's going on.

On the bright side, I'm happy to see that people can get the book early and start reading it.

Dan.Linehan · 09-19-2008, 06:04 PM

I bet Amazon has a policy of shipping as soon as they get new books in.

FIFO warehousing.

ticktockclok · 09-19-2008, 07:47 PM

I ordered it through buy.com because amazon doesn't allow paypal. Is buy.com shipping early too?

EDIT: Yeah, I think it is. The site no longer says preorder.

wulph · 09-19-2008, 09:06 PM

How does this affect your book's ranking on "important" lists, like New York Times Bestsellers?

I had the understanding that presales count towards the First Week Sales for such lists... but it seems like releasing early will dilute the figures. Of course, we all know that "bestseller" status is meaningless, but I'm sure those stats still affect future sales for many reasons.

frntk · 09-19-2008, 09:30 PM

PDSP = Personal Development Shipping Prematurely

Steve, if you can please ask Hay House how can this affect the shipping of the free review copies for bloggers.

V.

Savage · 09-19-2008, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wulph

How does this affect your book's ranking on "important" lists, like New York Times Bestsellers?

I had the understanding that presales count towards the First Week Sales for such lists... but it seems like releasing early will dilute the figures. Of course, we all know that "bestseller" status is meaningless, but I'm sure those stats still affect future sales for many reasons.

I don't know what the effect would be, but it seems like it would make things pretty kittywompus to have the book releasing at different times online vs. in brick and mortar stores.

In the meantime I get to practice non-attachment to outcomes.

Savage · 09-19-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frntk

PDSP = Personal Development Shipping Prematurely

Steve, if you can please ask Hay House how can this affect the shipping of the free review copies for bloggers.

V.

I know Hay House has been shipping the review copies this week, so I don't think it's causing any delays in the review copies.

And btw, I prefer: "Practice Detachment, Steve Pavlina."

freestate · 09-19-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

I don't know what the effect would be, but it seems like it would make things pretty kittywompus to have the book releasing at different times online vs. in brick and mortar stores.

I love you for using Kittywompus here.
I just had to say that.

I'm sure this isn't the first time Amazon has jumped the gun. I wouldn't worry about bestseller lists. You'll do quite well, mark my words...

PDSP = Practice detachment, Steve Pavlina.
EWOP = Everything works out perfectly.

Savage · 09-19-2008, 11:35 PM

I just got off the phone with Hay House. Apparently what happened is that they had the books shipped directly from the printer to their distributors when they should have stored the books in their warehouse for a few weeks. As I understand it, this problem was caused by a lack of internal coordination. I.e. the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. It was a mistake plain and simple.

Consequently, Amazon received their order of several thousand books much earlier than they should have and naturally started shipping them. But it wasn't just Amazon. Apparently other distributors, including brick and mortar chains, also have the books now. I haven't been able to verify this yet, but as far as I know, the book may already be on the shelves in many bookstores, both in the USA and Canada.

Anyway, this obviously derails the timing of my launch plans, especially since the 400+ blogger review copies only started shipping this week, but all I can do is roll with it.

I already switched all the links on StevePavlina.com to reflect the fact that the book is now available. I'll officially announce the book's launch in my blog and newsletter next week. I could do it today, but my traffic is lower during the weekend, so it's best to wait until Monday.

The book's Amazon sales rank is 972 as of this moment, so it's already in the top 1K. Certainly not bad for a book that snuck out the door unexpectedly.

Anyway, enjoy the book! I wonder who will be the first to post an Amazon review.

supertom · 09-20-2008, 12:22 AM

If anybody in sydney sees the book, tell me !!

ticktockclok · 09-20-2008, 01:18 AM

Yeah, I got it in the mail today from my buy.com order. It's an awesome book.

Honky_Spiritbird · 09-20-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

I know Hay House has been shipping the review copies this week, so I don't think it's causing any delays in the review copies.

And btw, I prefer: "Practice Detachment, Steve Pavlina."

Um... isn't this what you REALLY wanted?

More proof you're pretty good at that LOA hocus pocus, I'd say.

Joeschmoe · 09-20-2008, 06:10 PM

Ordered, it gets to me on the day before my birthday!

Brutha · 09-20-2008, 07:24 PM

Maybe to many readers of your blog put out the intention: "I will get the answers to my problem tommorow in the mail"

Andreas · 09-21-2008, 02:43 AM

Steve, I plan on writing a review for the book once I finish reading it. (Loving it so far.) Does this early release change the rules associated with "How to Get a Link From StevePavlina.com" instructions discussed at How Bloggers Can Get My Book for Free?

Thanks, and don't worry. Perhaps this was for the best somehow.

Savage · 09-21-2008, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas

Steve, I plan on writing a review for the book once I finish reading it. (Loving it so far.) Does this early release change the rules associated with "How to Get a Link From StevePavlina.com" instructions discussed at How Bloggers Can Get My Book for Free?

Thanks, and don't worry. Perhaps this was for the best somehow.

The only change would be that you can post your review any time between now and the end of October. Obviously no need to wait until October now.

InterfaceLeader · 09-21-2008, 09:42 AM

Looks like Amazon.co.uk went out of stock.... and my pre-order didn't go through. Damn!

Andreas · 09-21-2008, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

The only change would be that you can post your review any time between now and the end of October. Obviously no need to wait until October now.

Right, no need to wait now. I'll be sure to begin on a review once I finish the book.

I hope you're not losing sleep over anything. You replied to me at 1:39AM, which is a bit late. Are you doing okay, Steve?

Thanks again for writing such an amazing book. I'm only nearly finished with Chapter 2, and I really like the framework you're laying out.

Edit: Scratch that. That's 11:39PM your time. Haha.

09-19-2008, 05:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Savage Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,988	PDSP already shipped? Apparently Amazon is already shipping my book, and some people said they already received it. I asked Hay House what was going on and was told that apparently my book shipped 6 weeks early. I'll be talking to their sales guy this afternoon to get the details. I have no idea why they'd ship the book early... especially w/o telling me. I'm still in the dark about what's going on, but I should know the details by the end of the day. If anyone happens by a major bookstore today (like Borders or Barnes & Noble), can you confirm whether or not my book is on the shelf in the self-help section? Once I have all the facts -- and if I can confirm that the book has indeed launched -- I'll obviously have to accelerate my plans quite a bit. The original launch date was October 15th. But for now it looks like you can get the book sooner rather than later, at least through Amazon. I may have to tone down my use of the LoA next time. __________________ Steve Pavlina www.StevePavlina.com Join me on: Twitter \| Google+

09-19-2008, 05:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Savage Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,988	My local Borders doesn't have it yet, so it might just be Amazon that's shipping ahead of schedule. I'll need to get the details from Hay House to figure out what's going on. On the bright side, I'm happy to see that people can get the book early and start reading it. __________________ Steve Pavlina www.StevePavlina.com Join me on: Twitter \| Google+

09-19-2008, 11:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Savage Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,988	I just got off the phone with Hay House. Apparently what happened is that they had the books shipped directly from the printer to their distributors when they should have stored the books in their warehouse for a few weeks. As I understand it, this problem was caused by a lack of internal coordination. I.e. the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. It was a mistake plain and simple. Consequently, Amazon received their order of several thousand books much earlier than they should have and naturally started shipping them. But it wasn't just Amazon. Apparently other distributors, including brick and mortar chains, also have the books now. I haven't been able to verify this yet, but as far as I know, the book may already be on the shelves in many bookstores, both in the USA and Canada. Anyway, this obviously derails the timing of my launch plans, especially since the 400+ blogger review copies only started shipping this week, but all I can do is roll with it. I already switched all the links on StevePavlina.com to reflect the fact that the book is now available. I'll officially announce the book's launch in my blog and newsletter next week. I could do it today, but my traffic is lower during the weekend, so it's best to wait until Monday. The book's Amazon sales rank is 972 as of this moment, so it's already in the top 1K. Certainly not bad for a book that snuck out the door unexpectedly. Anyway, enjoy the book! I wonder who will be the first to post an Amazon review. __________________ Steve Pavlina www.StevePavlina.com Join me on: Twitter \| Google+

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