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08-15-2007, 09:52 AM
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 Surprising experiment about "You are God" I've just read one of the most sold newspapers in Spain, "La Vanguardia". And there is an interview with Joe Dispenza, explaining how he thinks mind and matter are united. And you can alter the "objective world" (the physical), with your mind. And that the physical/matter world is only a metaphor of the mind.... (Wow, "The Secret", LoA, "It's all in the mind" the Beatles said...) Most of what he says is common beliefs here... the interview said to me "But that is not scientific!". And Joe Dispenza told one experiment. By the way, he said that all history we have altered the world with the mind... praying, but there's no need for Yahwe, Allah, etc. is only yourself... Experiment. He choosed two person. One exercised one finger with one string with some weight. And he did kind of lifts... (you know, maybe I don't translate well). He gain 30 % of strength with that finger. Other person did the same... but mentally!. lol... without any string or weight. And he gained 22 %. It's one of the most explanatory things I've read about You Are God. Dreams create reality I use to say, and it seems to be true. Dreaming about doing something with help a lot to do it. You can learn to sing only thinking of it really. And... you can... achieve what you want... imagining it on your head... at least you will shape it closer to your desires or so... It could be silly but I see it a lot more clear with the very simple example of the finger strength. Kind of the Matrix. "There's no weight!, there's no string". It's only in the mind. It would be funny to do an experiment with one person lifting weight but... not paying attention or so. Maybe he wouldn't gain strength at all. !. Well, they see if you're worried or so, exercise is quite useless. I found interesting to share this. Though for some it's nothing new. "Who on Earth you think you are? A superstar? Well, allright you are. Cause we all shine on, like the Moon and the stars and the Sun, on and on." Lennon, Instant Karma. "Dream on, dream on, dream on, dream on, dream on till your dream come true" Aerosmith, Dream On Paul McCartney advice to his graduate of his arts school (LIPA) in 2007. "Have in mind what you want to achieve, work hard, and believe you're gonna achieve it."      |
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08-15-2007, 10:48 AM
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| If we take this a step further.......reality itself is not real. Reality is defined by what we sense with our five senses, what is tangible. But all true creative power is thought/choice and these are never physical reality based. They output into physical reality and although they seem to be existing inside physical reality, I suspect that physical reality is actually happening inside thought, inside consciousness. Such is the world of SR.........such as in the matrix, but instead of real you in a pod of goo feed your life by machines.......it's you, consciousness, feeding your life to your physical observer, your human bean. Most people think they are a human bean having a consciousness, but it's actually consciousness (you) having a human experience. Max |
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08-15-2007, 11:35 AM
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 Hey, lol. We don't have five senses. I think the last agreement in science is 21. You know 5 but may add, perception of... feelings, heat, your own body situation, etc. and you could add (out of science yet) clairvoidance, telepathy, etc. If reality is defined "what is tangible" then you're feelings are not real, for instance. You can percept your own thoughts, that's another sense. You can hear them without having any sound. If we defined reality like anything outside of your body... then your body is not real, lol... What sense alerts you when your stomach aches.... that's introperception. Is the stomach real?... I would forget that definition... And the end it doesn't matter if something's real or not... It's all what's on your mind that's real for you. Is it America real for me? Well... it's a concept for me. It's not tangible for me now. Now it exists. But if I started denying their existence it would not exist for me, you know. For some people Antartica just doesn't exist!. Because they don't know about their existence, like some distant stars or planet we haven't seen, did they exist? Yes. We know them? no. lol... so what? what is tangible depends of the power of observation. Electrons are not tangible but they exist. One thing can only happen in your mind with theories and such, and be proven to be real. What we call Reality is a metaphor or your mind reality. What's real is your mind, not the reality. "I think therefore I exist". Electrons wouldn't be accepted as "real" without any theory made for someone's mind. Like some senses, are they "real"? If reality is the "physical world", how do a person can shape up his muscles without any physical world weight. Just with "unreal" weights. It should be a "unreal" muscle. Nothing is unreal, if there was real it would be a thing. So future is real, possibilites are real, dreams are real, because they are "things". They influence the physical world, so they got to be real, how something called "unreal" (just mere thoughts without actions) should influence something real??? Or maybe the opposite. "Nothing is real""it's all in your mind", the Beatle way. or "Everything is real, what's on your mind too" |
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08-15-2007, 04:31 PM
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We have just somehow ended up believing that there's a difference in the so called objective reality and imagination. Objective reality IS imagination. We believe that our five senses are sensing stuff "out there." There's nothing out there. The five senses are merely creating images in your mind. The images they create are based on your beliefs. The belief that reality is what our five senses perceive, is a degraded version of creation. |
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08-15-2007, 04:35 PM
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| I've posted this before, but i thought it would be relevent to this discussion... Perceiving Reality I enjoyed it...
__________________ Mungham Development - Web Design, Multimedia & I.T. Solutions Intelligent Substance - The stuff that everything is made of... |
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08-16-2007, 02:25 AM
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08-16-2007, 02:27 AM
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08-16-2007, 02:35 AM
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08-16-2007, 04:53 AM
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| I have to write this, it's hilarious to me. And really amasing. Plus the only reason I wouldn't is fear of bringing disrepute on the other posters, and an attack on the thread. That video got me really interested. Reminds me of Sai Baba, and what he talks about, and more what I learned, am learning. So I looked at the links. That tree! A few months ago we were all talking at the beach, about surfing and grommets, kids who surf. How much detail we went into then, even over a block of wax. How we would just smell it, and touch it, all our wild dreams, and how absorbed we were with the details. How much and how rapidly our surfing would improve, all the amasing experiences we would have. That got me thinking about my boards, and we talked about how we would drive the shapers mad with detail, spray jobs, individual design, and how we would get these magic boards. I used to look at, touch, smell imagine the things for hours, days, years, I wanted to surf forever. I do. Nowadays shaping is going computerised, and we tend to just grab something that seems good, from a good shaper. We hardly notice our boards anymore...almost allowing our thoughts to be jaded. So, I decided on a magic board. I chose the colour of my all time favourite. Thought heaps about what I liked most in surfing, what I wanted to improve... the possibilities are endless. I dreamed about it heaps. I felt like a grommet. Our waves here are life and death when they pump, and we tend to be sort of fussy with shapers anyway, but I wanted the perfect shaper for me, and the waves. I'm 6' 225lbs, and thats a rarity in modern surfing, so lots of shapers really don't get the implications of it. I visualised the perfect shaper, my dream shaper, as part of the overall picture of surfing the dream board. I saw this picture of a beautiful coloured board...with this tree on it in a magazine article. I'd never seen or noticed the tree before, but it appealled to me. It turns out he came from another part of Oz, ulladulla, where the waves are really like ours. He had heard all about Black's, been to Hawaii heaps, and had been hand shaping for decades. We were really on the same wavelength, relating same experiences, and he made heaps of boards for bigger guys over the years. He had a range of stickers, and I said I really liked the tree. Use that tree. Add whatever you feel to my ideas, I trust you. Its the best board I've ever had! A dream board, even though the shape looks a bit different and had some new ideas. My mates all comment on the tree. Only the other day we were talking about it, and what it might mean to the shaper. Just after I watched the video, my wife comes in really happy and is telling me about how a few days ago she got this urge to incorporate the idea of roots and a tree in her meditations, and how she thought it was funny that the group of ladies she met with today were all suddenly talking about trees. When I showed her the video, then the symbol on the link and my surfboard bit, we just laughed. I love all this stuff and where it leads. I love feeling amased, and I love amasing results. Its the stuff of dreams. Childs play. Thanks for the thread and video. |
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08-16-2007, 06:47 AM
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Great video, I loved it, but as soon as the K word was mentioned my perception changed and then it got worse when I saw all the labeling and overcomplicating system that it is...... The video is well mad and fun, but all the rest is just a bunch of humans over analyzing the simplicity to death. Just my OP....thanks for sharing though  Max |
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08-16-2007, 07:14 AM
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I truly only enjoyed the first parts of the video, when he talks about ego and in here out there stuff... and the 5 senses, the stuff that gets me thinking. I'll figure it out as I go along and enjoy the process... It's all good!
__________________ Mungham Development - Web Design, Multimedia & I.T. Solutions Intelligent Substance - The stuff that everything is made of... |
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08-16-2007, 07:34 AM
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 Interesting article. |
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08-16-2007, 06:30 PM
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| I also enjoyed the video greatly! I'm sending the link to everyone on my address book. Now, I don't think I'll delve into the 500 pages in the book! It's way too much fun finding my own way and making discoveries on my own. As I've said before, some things just resonate with me and this video does. Thanks! |
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08-16-2007, 09:41 PM
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| I enjoyed the video too, but the books go right over my head! I wonder if it is another way to interpret I-M, or something different entirely? I had heard that the basis of Kabbalah was nonduality (i may be wrong!), so I'm guessing it coincides with the Law Of Consciousness. As I say, it's way over my head, so I can't say for definate. Anyone with a better knowledge have any insight? |
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08-16-2007, 11:11 PM
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Such is the nature of humanity..........if it's easy, then it's not worthy. Max |
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08-16-2007, 11:18 PM
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08-16-2007, 11:36 PM
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08-16-2007, 11:37 PM
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__________________ Best, Dan Linehan |
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08-16-2007, 11:53 PM
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| the K word i like the clip, very well made & thought out. I don't even get the heebie-jeebies when they say kabbalah, LOL. Although I know some sites and Kabbalistic materials make it all so difficult it seems like they are trying to keep it a secret. |
