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08-11-2007, 09:30 AM
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 |  Depressed and dying
So depressed. LoA has failed me. I've read the books, certainly spent enough time browsing the forums here and elsewhere. Just doesn't work. I tried to make a go of it in New York, pursue my dreams (as cliche as that sounds), and I'm near broke right now. I'm drinking myself to death (intentionally) because I can't stand being broke and so far off course anymore. Good night. Dave Angeles |
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08-11-2007, 11:34 AM
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Spiritual advice for you: Count your blessings. About LOA didn't work for you..... maybe you need more time to be success with LOA. Try to use different techniques. But if LOA still doesn't work for you..... forget it. Live your life. LOA is not everything. |
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08-11-2007, 02:00 PM
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OK... you've read some books and browsed some forums and now you've mastered LoA? Um, no. Clearly you have not internalized what so-called teachers of LoA are expressing. Your post is beyond negative (I hate my life and I'm going to drink myself to death!!!) The more negative energy you put out the more you get back. This is not new-age philosophy either. You can also do affirmations up the wazoo and put on a happy face all you want, but you won't get results until you internalize positive energy. You need to actually start expecting good things to happen in your life. |
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08-11-2007, 03:02 PM
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I know it looks bad, but it's not. Right now you have to find the smallest thing, the one tiny thing that will make you live today. Exist right now, don't give tomorrow any thought, you thoughts, your only thoughts have to be right now. You are a victim right now of your own creation and that's really a great thing because it means you made yourself a victim, you created all this *bleep* and that also means............If you created this, you can create something better.....all the power you need right now is inside you right now, just waiting for you to release it. Don't play victim, your strenght is inside. Max Last edited by Max Power; 08-11-2007 at 03:05 PM. | |
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08-11-2007, 04:56 PM
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|  Dave Angeles -- please read my post (it sure took me a while to write it) Quote:
------------------------------------------ Why is it a good night, and why was it a good day? ------------------------------------------ Do I say these things because my life is perfect and I have a large amount of money in the bank, many of my dreams and goals fulfilled, mastery of the LoA and a 100% success rate with it? Nope. Do I say this because I’ve just had a thoroughly enjoyable day, a day free of regrets? None of the above. I say this because I can pull my bedroom curtain aside, peer into the brilliant night sky and see... that my (external) window blind is blocking my view of the night sky – haha! ------------------------------------------ Are you confused yet? ------------------------------------------ Not making much sense? I hope so. Why? Because life certainly isn’t as serious as some people make it out to me. I wouldn’t go as far to say that it is unimportant, but it certainly isn’t as serious as some people make it out to be. And when I say “people”, that also includes the voice in your head (call it your ego, call it your mind... call it whatever you want) that tells you how bad your situation is, how nothing is working, how everything is going wrong, how you're off course, etc, etc. Who's to say what "on course" is anyway? You probably assume that if you were successful your situation would be much better and you wouldn't be in the state you are in, yet many successful people still seem to commit suicide. Kind of makes me wonder if all this “success” is all it’s cracked up to be. It makes me wonder if “success” is the real source of the happiness successful people seem to experience. ------------------------------------------ Would you take one bite of a meal and then throw it in the trash? ------------------------------------------ I honestly can’t tell you what I’d do if I was in your situation, but I can tell you this: the only way I am going to die in life is if I “die trying”. In other words, life is going to have to drag me off the ride kicking and screaming if it wants me off it. This is one customer who intends to get his money worth. And I suggest that you do the same, or you’re only really scamming yourself. Imagine paying for a ride and getting off before it’s finished. Where’s the fun in that? Just as I wouldn’t buy a meal, take a bite, and toss it in the trash, I certainly wouldn’t jump off a cliff at the first sight of extreme difficulty. The very notion that you made this thread tells me a few things. (A) You aren’t 100% serious about killing yourself, or you’d be doing that instead of doing things that pertain to the physical world you live in (ie. making posts on a forum), (B) you have enough money to buy booze, or have the innate capabilities that allow you to somehow acquire booze (C) you have access to the internet, and (D) you have basic computer skills. And that tells me that you are 100% capable to do a many, many things... but instead of doing them, you are drinking booze, trying to (not very efficiently) “get off the ride” because the LoA -- one possible pathway to whatever it is you want to achieve – “has failed you”. ------------------------------------------ Where's the love? ------------------------------------------ Now you may think I’m being a bit harsh in saying what I have and not giving you a post loaded with loving support, but I don’t think it’s support that you need. I think it’s a bit of perspective. A bit of determination. But most of all, I think you need to become clear on exactly what you thought the LoA was going to provide you with, and why you wanted those things. I challenge you, before you drink yourself into oblivion, to ask yourself why you wanted what you were trying to obtain using the LoA. Then I’d ask myself why you wanted what you wanted. To give you an example, say you want to fulfil one of your dreams. Pick any dream. Now ask why you wanted to fulfil that dream. What did you think that dream would provide you with upon it's completion? What would it provide you with if your dream became a reality? Got that in mind? Good. Now ask why it was you wanted those things that the dream would provide you with. They may or may not be physical -- maybe they were states of being (eg. maybe your dream was to have a million dollars, and you thought if had $1,000,000 you could buy whatever you wanted, and that would make you happy). Now ask why it is you want what those things provide (eg. if something makes you happy, ask why you want to be happy... what is it about happiness that is so desirable to you?). I’ve recently tried this exercise myself, I found it very enlightening. And I'm sure you will too if you take it far enough, and at the same time, maybe you’ll find a way to experience part of what you are originally looking for right now. Maybe instead of doing all that work to reach your dream and get what you thought it would provide you with, you can experience those things right now, maybe if only a little. And when you do that, suddenly you will realise that everything you need to fulfil your most extravagant dreams exists right here in the present moment -- you just weren’t looking at it the right way. And you know what that gives you? An opportunity to keep going... to stay on the ride and get what you paid for. ------------------------------------------ The consequences of saying "no" ------------------------------------------ Realise that every time you say “no” to anything that may give you even the slightest bit of momentum towards your dreams, you are simultaneously saying “no” to your dreams. You may think you are merely “just doing X” (X = some task you may consider trivial), and while that may be true, you are also “not doing Y” (Y = moving towards your dreams) while you do that task. Steve describes a bit more about this topic here: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/saying-no/ (It’s a quick read. If you want to, I suggest reading it after you read this post.) You say the LoA has failed you. Perhaps it’s working perfectly. Steve has written about this phenomena before. I quote: ------------------------------------------The really insidious part — the part that keeps me up at night thinking about it — is whether the intention of the Million Dollar Experiment itself is responsible for my discovering that I needed to work through my fears to allow the original intention to manifest. Will a powerful intention actually manifest the very tools necessary to help it manifest? Consider that this website is the central hub of the Million Dollar Experiment. If I can successfully manifest $1 million via the experiment’s intention, then I’ll surely explain all the details here and offer whatever insights I can into how to accelerate the process, thereby potentially enabling thousands of other participants to use the same process to generate their $1 million as well. Could it be that the mere intention is all it takes to get the ball rolling — and keep it rolling — even in the presence of deep-seated resistance? - http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ut-resistance/ See the glass as half full, not half empty... Say "yes" to the obvious -- yet easy to miss -- resources the half full side provides ------------------------------------------ Who’s to say what you are experiencing right now isn’t part of the manifestation of your dreams? Who’s to say you’re not experiencing this to be taught something, to gain an understanding of something? Who’s to say that by drinking yourself into oblivion, you’re literally throwing away the lesson you’ve been attracting, the very lesson you need to learn so that you may make progress towards your goals, and simultaneously, intentionally saying “no” to the dreams you seem to want to achieve? It’s a bit too early to give up, methinks. Let life (the ride) decide when it’s time for you to get off. For now, I’d enjoy the ride and start looking at what you are saying “yes” to, and, as a result, what you are automatically saying “no” to. Start saying “yes” to those actions that will move you towards your dreams goals and “no” to those that don’t. To have the time to write this post I said "no" to watching a DVD that I've been wanting to watch and "yes" to you and thinking that you have the ability to do far more then you give yourself credit for (even without the LoA). What are you going to say "no" to so you can say "yes" to something more important? | |
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08-11-2007, 05:35 PM
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Hello Dave… A very wise man, Robert Pirsig, who wrote the classic, “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” said something to the effect that… “If metaphysic works for you… fine… if not, forget about it and go on your merry way…” LoA is a tool… and that is all it is… a friggin tool… but it is not the only one in the tool box needed to succeed… I built financial security and a wonderful life by using Tony Robbins’ “Ultimate Success Formula” which goes like this: 1) Decide what you want, 2) Take action, 3) Notice what’s working or not, and Change your approach until you achieve what you want. And the simple axiom that say, “If you believe that you can… you can…” with the part of LoA that says, "Your thoughts and feelings will tend to attract whatever will happen to you…" With that… and some courage… you can achieve whatever you set your mind to… and have what it is that you want… The very best of luck to you… and whatever you do… don’t give up… . |
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08-12-2007, 10:35 AM
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You know what, daveangeles? You're getting there, it's working all right : ever heard of (or read Thomas Moore's book) the 'Dark Nights of the Soul'? Life happens in phases and these dark phases are part of the cycles we go through in life. They're tough, yes - they're supposed to be. We all need and have them because they teach us something very important : to appreciate what we still have (or have had) and to motivate us to have it all back, and more. The deeper you fall, the higher you rise : look forward to that, it'll be great! You never get more on your plate than you can handle - the only mistake you can make right now is crack up. All very successful people have been deep down in the dumps first, where you are now : I can see great things coming for you! |
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08-12-2007, 05:18 PM
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I know many people are skeptic about the notion that we create our own reality but it is not so much a mystical phenomenon, more simply it is pure logic. If you want something badly enough the only thing stopping you from having it is your own fear of failure, realistically you can achieve anything! I am sorry if you feel that LOA has 'failed' you, but LOA only works if you are determined to MAKE it work, it is not a genie in a latern ready to give you your 3 wishes, sometimes it takes a long time and a lot hardwork and setbacks, but if you want it badly enough you will get there in the end. Drinking yourself to an early grave is not the answer, but believe me, if you are hell bent on destruction then you will achieve it, the LOA works the other way too. Get yourself to an AA meeting, start focusing on what you want and how you want your life to be and then start making REALISTIC goals to achieve. Once you've achieved one goal make another, slightly higher than the one before and carry on like that. Soon you will see how much the small goals add up to make big achievements. YOU ARE WONDERFUL YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN REALITY ONLY YOU HAVE THE POWER AND THE MEANS TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE Please don't give up, life is a wonderful blessing, we all have bad times and I have had more than my fair share, but I have also had much more good times. We all tend to forget the good times when the chips are down, but that is when we should remember them most because it reminds us that we have had great times so therefore it is possible to have great times again and again and again. My thoughts are with you, I wish you all the best x | |
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08-13-2007, 01:23 AM
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Three years ago, I stood on a piece of muddy ground trying to help people whose homes, loved ones, personal possessions, entire villages had been swept away by a giant tsunami. Those people hadn't given up yet. What's your problem? Stand up and be a man. | |
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08-13-2007, 01:39 AM
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Daves: Here is one of my favorite poems...it mite help ya. I feared being alone Until I learned to like Myself. I feared failure Until I realized that I only Fail when I don't try. I feared success Until I realized That I had to try In order to be happy With myself. I feared people's opinions Until I learned that People would have opinions About me anyway. I feared rejection Until I learned to Have faith in myself. I feared pain Until I learned that it's necessary For growth. I feared the truth Until I saw the Ugliness in lies. I feared life Until I experienced Its beauty . I feared death Until I realized that it's Not an end, but a beginning. I feared my destiny, Until I realized that I had the power to change My life. I feared hate Until I saw that it Was nothing more than Ignorance. I feared love Until it touched my heart, Making the darkness fade Into endless sunny days. I feared ridicule Until I learned how To laugh at myself. I feared growing old Until I realized that I gained wisdom every day. I feared the future Until I realized that Life just kept getting Better. I feared the past Until I realized that It could no longer hurt me. I feared the dark Until I saw the beauty Of the starlight. I feared the light Until I learned that the Truth would give me Strength. I feared change, Until I saw that Even the most beautiful butterfly Had to undergo a metamorphosis Before it could fly. __________________ There's nothing really difficult if you only begin - some people contemplate a task until it looms so big, it seems impossible, but I just begin and it gets done somehow. There would be no coral islands if the first bug sat down and began to wonder how the job was to be done. -John Shaw Billings Last edited by Bruce Achterberg; 08-13-2007 at 08:40 AM. Reason: Fixed your quote vB tags so they display correcty. =) | ||
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08-13-2007, 01:46 AM
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| Why LOA didn't work for you.
The reason LOA didn't work for you is because it is not a law and goes against the true law of the Universe, which is the law of give and take. Life is about what you GIVE and contribute. This is why we go to college and learn because we will be more productive and GIVING to society. This is why people in the ghetto are dying of murder or drugs. It's not that they are not thinking the right thoughts. They are takers. They wake up being takers and go to bed at night being takers. The universe doesn't provide for them because they are not providing for the universe. This is why socialist countries end up failing because they by their very nature go against the law of give and take. People who are more GIVERS are being punished thus giving them less resources to hire and continue to give. In turn they take the givers money and give it to the takers, but the takers don't do anything with the money except consume more drugs and use it for self destroying their lives and teaching them an invalid lesson. The old Soviet Union failed miserably and where China is successful today I can point out the capitalistic nature of the point that helps make them successful (i.e. Hong Kong). North Korea sits in darkness to preserve energy because the have a thug of a taker as their leader. So my question to you is are you a giver or a taker? Unfortunately, depression and alcohol will continue your downward cycle because you are sitting there wondering why the universe is not giving to a taker. You can turn this thing around today by becoming a giver (reads Steve's articles on light and darkworker - concentrate more on the lightworker side). Join a local church. Start living your dream, weather the Universe provides YET or not. Eventually you will reap great things. This whole Secret stuff is bunk. It copied its ideas from old books like Think and Grow Rich. The one thing Think and Grow Rich taught us is that we must go The Extra Mile - doing more than what you are paid to do. Essentially, give! Last edited by Amadeus; 08-13-2007 at 01:49 AM. |
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08-13-2007, 02:21 AM
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Going broke is just a test to see if you're really committed. People go broke every day. Some respond by giving up. Others say to the universe, "Is that the best you can do? I'm still here. Now give me what I want cuz I'm not going anywhere." For many people, including me and Erin, success lies on the other side of broke. You can't fool the LoA. It knows when your desire burns true enough to stay the course no matter what. It won't yield its treasure to mere hope. Broke is nothing. It's like a mosquito bite. If a lack of funds gets you down, then pursue your dream for free. |
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08-13-2007, 02:33 AM
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Pain and suffering can be as comfortable as joy and love, we're creatures of habit and acceptance. Sometimes you have to get very fired up to cast off the crap you've landed yourself in. Max | |
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08-13-2007, 04:07 AM
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Here are some people who seemingly had it all... yet committed suicide... Margaux Hemingway... Ernest Hemingway... John Belushi… Freddie Prinze... Sal Mineo... Marilyn Monroe… Lenny Bruce… and many more... Sad... very sad... . | |
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