Explanation Needed?

[BlackPaw]

Ok, this is my first post in this forum.

I've been reading many books on manifestation, law of attraction, personal success etc.
My conclusion (maybe its wrong, thats why i need explanation to see if my opinion is correct.) :
Almost all self development books have a main thing in common, and that is the law of attraction - what you think is what you get. If your thoughts are positive you attract positive things in your life. Each individual creates his reality (environment) by the power of his thoughts. And this leads to: that every thought is a cause, and effects of it are manifested in the physical world.
If this is true - it means that we control every moment and every situation in our life.
And here's my question?
What about a sudden car accident (you never wanted, you never thought about it, you didn't knew it would happen) or a sudden bomb explosion in a restaurant - what happens then - no one expected that would happen. In these moments ---
an individual is not controlling his environment?---
And this is contrary to the law of attraction.
If someone explains this to me i will be very thankful, and tell me if i am mistaken.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by BlackPaw

Ok, this is my first post in this forum.

I've been reading many books on manifestation, law of attraction, personal success etc.
My conclusion (maybe its wrong, thats why i need explanation to see if my opinion is correct.) :
Almost all self development books have a main thing in common, and that is the law of attraction - what you think is what you get. If your thoughts are positive you attract positive things in your life. Each individual creates his reality (environment) by the power of his thoughts. And this leads to: that every thought is a cause, and effects of it are manifested in the physical world.
If this is true - it means that we control every moment and every situation in our life.
And here's my question?
What about a sudden car accident (you never wanted, you never thought about it, you didn't knew it would happen) or a sudden bomb explosion in a restaurant - what happens then - no one expected that would happen. In these moments ---
an individual is not controlling his environment?---
And this is contrary to the law of attraction.
If someone explains this to me i will be very thankful, and tell me if i am mistaken.

you answered your own question. those things can only happen in your awareness if you believe in them. If you believe in accidents (as opposed to every moment being your choice/creation) then there will be accidents. If you believe in violence and the unexpected happening (as opposed to you creating everything deliberately), then there will be unexpected violence.

[unwiser]

You have to consider the fact that you may be thinking thoughts and not even aware of it. If you wrote down all of your thoughts it would suprise you.
That explains why things happen that you dont think that you attracted

[BlackPaw]

If you believe in accidents (as opposed to every moment being your choice/creation) then there will be accidents. If you believe in violence and the unexpected happening (as opposed to you creating everything deliberately), then there will be unexpected violence.

Yes, - if you believe in accidents then there will be accidents. But what about "seeing is believing". You cannot believe in something you haven't heard or seen.
There is a first time for everything - the first time when you will hear about accident, or see accidents on television, or see it in real life, or hear somebody describing an accident then automatically a thought of approval that accidents are possible enters the mind and is placed in memory.
Example:
A person who never experienced neither seen an accident walks on the road. Then in front of his eyes he sees two cars crash in front of his eyes. The eye has sent the picture through the nerves into the mind where the picture is seen. And that picture stays in the memory - and he starts to believe - in what he saw cause seeing is believing. -

So the next time that person sees a car going 200km/h + he will think that an accident is possible because he has already seen a similar situation.

I dont know if its correct but i think that there is no one who can only think positive thoughts and make right decisions every time.

I think its sometimes the WILL - when the will of the others is greater than yours, then your thoughts cannot manifest?

Am i correct?

[Love]

I think that the Law of Attraction states that everything you do is the result of your own thoughts.

I can't negate that or defend it, because using the law of attraction obviously works for many people, while others struggle with it.
I myself find it more helpful to think about using my actions versus using my thoughts.

That said, according to the Law of Attraction, if you want it to work and put 100% in, then it will work. Do you want it to work?

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by torilink

you answered your own question. those things can only happen in your awareness if you believe in them. If you believe in accidents (as opposed to every moment being your choice/creation) then there will be accidents. If you believe in violence and the unexpected happening (as opposed to you creating everything deliberately), then there will be unexpected violence.

Yahhhh!!! Torilink is back! I knew you wouldn't leave us Max and TL, off on another whirlwind adventure, just like Donkey and Shrek!!, you can be Shrek, because I'm an a-s-s

Blackpaw,

Yes, - if you believe in accidents then there will be accidents. But what about "seeing is believing". You cannot believe in something you haven't heard or seen.

Actually it is "I'll see it when I believe it" not "I'll believe it when I see it" Most people get that wrong because they put all they faith iin being human. You are not a human being having a consciousness, you are conssciousness having a human experience.

The sooner you accept that, the more creative power you'll gain and then you'll see that everything in your life is of your creation. You can give up control, but you can never give up responsibility.

Max

[torilink]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Yahhhh!!! Torilink is back! I knew you wouldn't leave us Max and TL, off on another whirlwind adventure, just like Donkey and Shrek!!, you can be Shrek, because I'm an a-s-s

LOL, I know - just can't give you up Maxie!

Actually, I drop by and read, but have been trying not to start posting because then I come back more often to keep up with the threads and then I post more, and come back more ..... well, I know you know what I mean.

but... I saw this question and couldn't keep my pie hole shut.

on the other hand, I've been getting some new posts written for my blog, started two new websites this last week, and have the first chapter of my book written!!

as far as hanging out here at the forums, everything in moderation - I reckon, cause cold turkey isn't working.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by torilink

LOL, I know - just can't give you up Maxie!

Actually, I drop by and read, but have been trying not to start posting because then I come back more often to keep up with the threads and then I post more, and come back more ..... well, I know you know what I mean.

but... I saw this question and couldn't keep my pie hole shut.

on the other hand, I've been getting some new posts written for my blog, started two new websites this last week, and have the first chapter of my book written!!

as far as hanging out here at the forums, everything in moderation - I reckon, cause cold turkey isn't working.

TL, good to have you back

Yeah, I can't post sometimes, it's either all or nothing for me!

Check your PM for advice.

Max

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by BlackPaw

What about a sudden car accident (you never wanted, you never thought about it, you didn't knew it would happen) or a sudden bomb explosion in a restaurant - what happens then - no one expected that would happen. In these moments ---
an individual is not controlling his environment?---

Car accidents can be as simple as you not paying attention to here and now. An accident would be a good way to jolt you back into the moment, maybe give you an injury so you will slow down and have some time to reflect. The common cold does wonders to slow people down when they are neglecting their rest and leisure.

Bomb in a restaurant? Same thing. Your life is not predestined, you can change on a dime. Your unconscious is always giving the conscious you input and impulses. Whether you listen or not is your business. You also might want to die (consciously or unconsciously) and a bomb or accident is a quick way to go.

[unwiser]

your the best, you put a positive spin on getting hit by a car.

Originally Posted by Dharma

Car accidents can be as simple as you not paying attention to here and now. An accident would be a good way to jolt you back into the moment, maybe give you an injury so you will slow down and have some time to reflect. The common cold does wonders to slow people down when they are neglecting their rest and leisure.

Bomb in a restaurant? Same thing. Your life is not predestined, you can change on a dime. Your unconscious is always giving the conscious you input and impulses. Whether you listen or not is your business. You also might want to die (consciously or unconsciously) and a bomb or accident is a quick way to go.

[BlackPaw]

"I'll see it when I believe it"

If i show you an object you have never thought that existed, and if you do not believe it - then it means that you do not see it. NO - you can pretend that you don't see it (by forcing yourself to think on something else), but the image of the object has already entered your mind, and you cannot convince yourself that you saw nothing.

I think its the WILL that matters (i got this conclusion from reading William walker Atkinson' s books) :

"if my will to show you the object is great enough then you'll agree to see the object even if you previously didn't wanted to."
- cause i have a strong will and desire to show you the object!

So - you cannot create your reality always, sometimes the will of the others is great enough to create their own reality and you must behave as they want (of course you still have the choice but their influence is greater and you agree to accept their offer.)

Example:
In a race - - the rider with the greater WILL to be the first at the finish of the race- will win.
All riders wanted and BELIEVED to finish 1st but why that didn't become their reality? - because someone else's WILL was greater than all the OTHERS.

Tell me if i' m wrong.

I really like to hear your opinions and to see whats the truth and how this law operates!

[torilink]

according to SR, everyone in the race is you. Not on the level of ego identiy, but the base level of consciousness. So, the winner is always you.

[BlackPaw]

according to SR.... -What is SR -

im new to this forum

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by BlackPaw

according to SR.... -What is SR -

im new to this forum

As long as you believe your in a race with others, then you are. As long as you believe it's you vs them, it will be.

As long as you believe it's all you, then all you really have to do is make yourself better, no one else. Everything improves when you improve yourself, why? Because it's all you.

You can't effectively change anything until you change yourself.

It's all you .....welcome to SR theory.

Max