Alpha and Beta reflections

[unwiser]

Im interested in hearing about everyones experience with LofA and alpha and Beta reflections. I havent seen much discussion of it on these boards.

If you dont know what it is it is described here. http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ions-manifest/

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by unwiser

Im interested in hearing about everyones experience with LofA and alpha and Beta reflections. I havent seen much discussion of it on these boards.

If you dont know what it is it is described here. http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ions-manifest/

I'm not a big fan of LoA, it imply's that we must attract things into our lives. I prefer to consider it's a choice for something to be true and real now. If you're attracting something it's always 'out there' somewhere rather than inside you already, but I consider this from the SR POV, so rather than something being lacking, that thiing has already manifested, it's just not being seen clear enough.

Think about money as an example, let's say you have $5 million dollars in your account, but do you? well maybe you do and maybe you don't, but if you choose it properly, it must manifest, if it doesn't then you're choosing something else, you're choosing the opposite. To use the LoA, the money is never there because you must attract something you don't have. It's fine to consider that, but the problem is we can easily lose focus because there is too much noticing it's not there.

You say you're attracting the money, but you're mind is actually noticing the lack more than focusing on attracting. This is why choice manifests and attraction implies lack. It doesn't really matter I suppose, but I don't consider LoA is good terminology to describe manifestation.

If we consider that we can't really exist anywhere else but right now, then everything we desire, must exist right now. I don't see how something can not exist right now and suddenly appear, everything must already be here, we're just not observing it properly.

It's a noodle baker for sure

Max

[cylon]

Max this is something that I am noticing as well, I do have intentions but as I go about my day, clearly I'm going to get caught up in the random stuff that I am creating so as to not completely go mental as you may say...

So I remind myself that it's mine now. I'm not used to it. Thinking in non-linear terms is not something people are used to doing. You are saying that time does not exist, because if everything exists now then there's no need for a "first I do a, then b will happen, and from b to c..."

You're saying that "z" is just over my shoulder looking at me.

And of course there's the fear that you may neglect stuff... the Secret is pretty popular these days, I've known about LOA for a very long time but left it for several years until the Secret came out. And many, many people say "intention is great but you need ACTION! You have to GO OUT AND GET IT!"

And you're saying it's already here. I think in the Secret the idea is first ask, then the universe hears you, it sets up events to create what you asked for, and you're saying, it is there already. Like instantaneously, no need for "upping your vibration", as in making your magnet extra strong so as to make things from across the globe find your current and stick to you.

I'm not sure if there's a question in there, but reply if you feel so inclined!

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by cylon

Max this is something that I am noticing as well, I do have intentions but as I go about my day, clearly I'm going to get caught up in the random stuff that I am creating so as to not completely go mental as you may say...

So I remind myself that it's mine now. I'm not used to it. Thinking in non-linear terms is not something people are used to doing. You are saying that time does not exist, because if everything exists now then there's no need for a "first I do a, then b will happen, and from b to c..."

You're saying that "z" is just over my shoulder looking at me.

And of course there's the fear that you may neglect stuff... the Secret is pretty popular these days, I've known about LOA for a very long time but left it for several years until the Secret came out. And many, many people say "intention is great but you need ACTION! You have to GO OUT AND GET IT!"

And you're saying it's already here. I think in the Secret the idea is first ask, then the universe hears you, it sets up events to create what you asked for, and you're saying, it is there already. Like instantaneously, no need for "upping your vibration", as in making your magnet extra strong so as to make things from across the globe find your current and stick to you.

I'm not sure if there's a question in there, but reply if you feel so inclined!

I'm fairly convinced that there is nothing outside of conscious awareness and if that's true, then everything required must already be in place. Thinking like this can break your head because if there really is nothing outside awareness and nothing exists except this present moment, then things like time and the need for growth are also illusions.

Imagine if you chose something to be real and it manifested immediately everytime, that's going to become fairly boring very fast, so you build a system where you can still manifest anything, but you build in time delays or at least the perception of delay to render the sensation of growth, which is a desired state for consciousness because it doesn't grow and/or change, it's timeless too, so that's another thing you build into the reality, the sense of time.

Now as you get better at realising this as true (only if you choose to believe it works that way) then manifesting can become easier for you because you can negate or at least bypass some of the delay. You don't require so much time and/or the need to experience growth.

This is a way to fast track manifestation. You can also leave out emotion and high levels of thinking, for consciousness, if you want to align yourself there doesn't need to emote and/or think.

Summary
You are consciousness, yes you will maintain the illusion with time and growth and emotion and thought, but you know they are just additional human based requirements so you accept them, but to create faster and more effectively, you don't let them strangle your creative source, conscious choice.

It's ok to be human, that's the observation point and that's where consciousness experiences from, but it's not the creative source, so don't try to create from there.

Works for me

Max

[cylon]

Great post, and...

Originally Posted by Max Power

Now as you get better at realising this as true (only if you choose to believe it works that way) then manifesting can become easier for you because you can negate or at least bypass some of the delay. You don't require so much time and/or the need to experience growth.

This is a way to fast track manifestation

Looks like people are struggling then because they have built in the belief that there is a sequence of events or hurdles that HAVE to happen for them to acheive big things (and you will always hear stuff like "work your ass off! Burn the midnight oil! No pain no gain! Sacrafice!"... which isn't fun).

I prefer this way. Growth is important to me, but in my own way for my own reasons. I'm glad I'm learning to drop some of the assumptions about life I was raised with.

[cylon]

Well might as well post this here... this MAY be an example of time not existing (or me not paying attention) but I just found out through my credit service that all of my credit cards have been payed off. I thought I had a few thousand to go (one of those things where it's so painful I'd rather just be surprised) but I had the urge to call them today, and they said I am off the hook. I "just" manifested over $4000 a year in my pocket.... I know it would have been payed off but the timing is just right for me.

[Max Power]

When you consider that you don't attract things and stuff to you as if they are out there somewhere, it's a nice feeling, because it doesn't seem like hard work because you're just uncovering and discovering things that are already there. You just reveal the truth to yourself.

You don't have to bring something into your life, you just have to realise it's already there, it's not hard at all. The whole concept of working hard, struggling, loads of effort and stress are all self imposed limitations to keep the reality believable. You do need it to be this way on a certain level, but you can make that level easier to stomach if you consider it's not supposd to be hard or difficult. The only limitations you live with are the self imposed ones you place on yourself.


Max

[unwiser]

I will broaden the question to what ever manifest technique you use. whats your experience with alpha and beta reflections. They describe it as a sign you get before the manifestation occurs that its working.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by unwiser

I will broaden the question to what ever manifest technique you use. whats your experience with alpha and beta reflections. They describe it as a sign you get before the manifestation occurs that its working.

An alpha reflection is a sign from your consciousness that the order/desire/requirement has been received and that the work to attain it has begun, but the alpha is all you'll get if you stop observing your choice for something to manifest.

The beta is the full manifestation and how long that takes depends on how much you're observing your choice/intention/desire and what other observations are fundamental.

Money's always a good example. You choose to have $1 million dollars, so you set forth the intention (make the choice) and then a strange sign will appear. Could be an unexpected sum of found money or you repeatedly see $1M displayed somewhere or some kind of sign that triggers you to consider "Oh, is the universe trying to tell me something" then if you keep observing your choice/intention/desire, then it should manifest.

If it doesn't manifest then it's because you killed it, by observing a past when you didn't get it, or observing that you don't have it right now.

All the SH/PD gurus say that same thing, you must observe that you have it now and this is because nothing exists except what's in your awareness right now. Past, future and anything outside your awareness don't exist, the only thing that does is you, in your present moment awareness.

As for personal experience with alphas. I only request them when I'm working on a important goal, something that needs more attention that random creation or instant creation. I chose for something to be so and I got the alpha almost immediately and then I wondered if that was what I truly desired so I asked for another alpha to confirm and sure enough it came very quickly. This tells me I'm on the right track.

Now the beta is more challenging for me, because I have to root out existing observations about manifestation. I have beliefs that are incongruent with my choice, so I have to create new empowering beliefs that will support my choice/intention.

It's all about observation, what you are already observing and what you desire to observe. Observation is creation right now.

Max

[unwiser]

so the alpha reflection is something you request or does it allways happen in the manifest process?

Originally Posted by Max Power

An alpha reflection is a sign from your consciousness that the order/desire/requirement has been received and that the work to attain it has begun, but the alpha is all you'll get if you stop observing your choice for something to manifest.

The beta is the full manifestation and how long that takes depends on how much you're observing your choice/intention/desire and what other observations are fundamental.

Money's always a good example. You choose to have $1 million dollars, so you set forth the intention (make the choice) and then a strange sign will appear. Could be an unexpected sum of found money or you repeatedly see $1M displayed somewhere or some kind of sign that triggers you to consider "Oh, is the universe trying to tell me something" then if you keep observing your choice/intention/desire, then it should manifest.

If it doesn't manifest then it's because you killed it, by observing a past when you didn't get it, or observing that you don't have it right now.

All the SH/PD gurus say that same thing, you must observe that you have it now and this is because nothing exists except what's in your awareness right now. Past, future and anything outside your awareness don't exist, the only thing that does is you, in your present moment awareness.

As for personal experience with alphas. I only request them when I'm working on a important goal, something that needs more attention that random creation or instant creation. I chose for something to be so and I got the alpha almost immediately and then I wondered if that was what I truly desired so I asked for another alpha to confirm and sure enough it came very quickly. This tells me I'm on the right track.

Now the beta is more challenging for me, because I have to root out existing observations about manifestation. I have beliefs that are incongruent with my choice, so I have to create new empowering beliefs that will support my choice/intention.

It's all about observation, what you are already observing and what you desire to observe. Observation is creation right now.

Max

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by unwiser

so the alpha reflection is something you request or does it allways happen in the manifest process?

I request mine, but they are supposed to show up once you've aligned with conscious choice.

Max

[fascinoma]

I've had experience with alpha reflections. I wish this had been explained to me when I was a manifester of boyfriends in my teen years.

What you first get is often not your manifested wish; it's just the alpha reflection. I would manifest what I thought was a boyfriend. I'd respond to that, get sidetracked from my goals, and get hurt - manifesting relationships increases your attractiveness and vibe of openness, and the first people you will attract might be predators and users. You still have to use common sense and hold out for your ultimate goal.

Basically... I learned: don't respond to the first person who asks or the first job offer you get.

[unwiser]

I dont think what you describe is an alpha reflection. An alpha reflection is a sign that points to your ulitmate goal you are manifesting.

Originally Posted by fascinoma

I've had experience with alpha reflections. I wish this had been explained to me when I was a manifester of boyfriends in my teen years.

What you first get is often not your manifested wish; it's just the alpha reflection. I would manifest what I thought was a boyfriend. I'd respond to that, get sidetracked from my goals, and get hurt - manifesting relationships increases your attractiveness and vibe of openness, and the first people you will attract might be predators and users. You still have to use common sense and hold out for your ultimate goal.

Basically... I learned: don't respond to the first person who asks or the first job offer you get.

[Max Power]

An alpha reflection is a specific sign that the manifestation is starting to manifest in the physical world. Some would call it a syncronicity.

Max