Is it a bad thing that SR makes no sense to me?

[cylon]

I started re-watching What the Bleep last night, and this time it made more sense as I could see a lot of what we discuss on this board in the film this time, especially about observation.

One of the guys was talking about entanglement, that everything is still connected because everything was connected at the big bang, and that kind of blew me away.

[XeutonMojukai]

Exactly.

Think also about their description of emotional addiction, and how it attracts reality that inspires that emotion...

The key to living a good life is to know how to harness emotions and make them work for you.

~ David

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by Max Power

People are so attached to their humanity that they will fight to the bitter end to defend it's position. If there is something before being born into humanity and something after that humanity, then that thing must be with us as humanity, therefore humanity if anything is a by product or a manifestation of that thing that is not actually humanity.

That's the core of the problem. "IF there is something."
I don't think anyone could know. I see it as beyond man's capacity for knowledge. I'm curious about how one could find out, but so far I haven't seen convincing proof of any model of metaphysics, simply because there's no data to base any decision on.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by agnostic

That's the core of the problem. "IF there is something."
I don't think anyone could know. I see it as beyond man's capacity for knowledge. I'm curious about how one could find out, but so far I haven't seen convincing proof of any model of metaphysics, simply because there's no data to base any decision on.

How can an energy system that is seemingly not physical, be proved to exist. Do you dream? they seem 'real' we believe on some level our dreams are real, but we don't ask for proof that they are real.

So what do we have? A limited human view of existance and dense physical matter that seems to be reasonably uncreative. SR is simply a way to see the world, most people don't like it because it places identity outside human beings and they are so inert in their humaness they think and fear that's all they are.

One third of our lives is spent being not human when we sleep, people forget that, they think it's just another part of being human. We can't prove anything, but we can take belief systems that empower us and use them to live our lives.

SR is very empowering, but I can see why people struggle with it. The best way to look at it is to see it not through human eyes, don't trust them, they are limited, they can deceive you, see it through consciousness, see it how you'd like to see it. As you observe, you create and you create it right now.

Do you want to look at the world and see selfishness and pain and suffering? Do you want to see poverty and broken relationships, no money and anger? If you don't want to see any of that then stop observing it and it will cease to continue.

Much of SR is covered in most religions and other empowering belief systems. When you want want change, you change yourself, you change your observation of self, you change the inside first and then the outside changes.

If you desire money, love, health, happiness, you have to observe those things inside you first and then the inside with change and then the outside will change (actually there is no outside, but that's another rant )

SR does two important things.

1. It makes you take full responsibility for everything. If it's in your awareness, then it's of your creation.

2. Creation only takes place right now, not yesterday, not tomorrow, right now, so when you want to change somethining in your world, you change it inside you right now and it will change, it has to.

So it's all you and it's all now Would you really want to live any other way?? But that you is not you the human being it's you consciousness. Awesome cosmic power, itty, bitty human bean

Enjoy!
Max

[MrBig]

Who is watching the dreams? "Events that happen in your brain, just like events that happen in your stomach or your liver, are not normally witnessed by anyone, not does it make any difference to how they happen whether they occur witnessed or unwitnessed." -- Daniel C. Dennett

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by MrBig

Who is watching the dreams? "Events that happen in your brain, just like events that happen in your stomach or your liver, are not normally witnessed by anyone, not does it make any difference to how they happen whether they occur witnessed or unwitnessed." -- Daniel C. Dennett

I find it comical to consider that anything happens in our brains. take away what you really are and what do you have? A dead body.

Everything we think we are is everything we manifest to know who we really are and that includes bodies and physical reality.

Max

[MrBig]

Originally Posted by Max Power

I find it comical to consider that anything happens in our brains.

Do you have brains?

[Bene]

Originally Posted by cylon

It's just that the whole concept of maintaining an illusion, seems to be like a God saying, "you know what would be fun? If I confused myself into thinking I'm a bunch of different people in order to have a blast getting to know myself better."

haha thats awesome

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by MrBig

Do you have brains?

Of course! But they are hardly creative

Max

[MrBig]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Of course! But they are hardly creative

Max

Of course, they are not. You said so yourself.

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by Max Power

SR is very empowering, but I can see why people struggle with it. The best way to look at it is to see it not through human eyes, don't trust them, they are limited, they can deceive you, see it through consciousness, see it how you'd like to see it. As you observe, you create and you create it right now.

I'm supposed not to trust my own eyes, but believe in my fantasies instead? This doesn't sound very empowering to me. Delusional, yes, but not empowering. At least not in the long term.

Originally Posted by Max Power

Do you want to look at the world and see selfishness and pain and suffering? Do you want to see poverty and broken relationships, no money and anger? If you don't want to see any of that then stop observing it and it will cease to continue.

It's not that easy. I agree to the degree that you co-create your own experience. Your beliefs undoubtedly influence your perceptions - a lot.
But it's more probable that poverty will continue to exist out there when you stop looking at it. If a giant truck comes rushing towards you and you just close your eyes, the truck will be out of your perceived universe, yes. But only until it hits you. And then you'll be out of the truck's universe.

Throughout history people have been poisoned by people they have trusted. How do you think that happened? They surely didn't see that coming.
I'm not that well-versed in the Bible, but didn't Judas betray Jesus without Jesus knowing it?

Originally Posted by Max Power

If you desire money, love, health, happiness, you have to observe those things inside you first and then the inside with change and then the outside will change (actually there is no outside, but that's another rant )

I'm quite certain many people get diseases without thinking about them. I agree that the existence of the outside world is a model (everything is). But it's a pretty good one. I'd even say it's the best one you have.

I think your consciousness-theory applies perfectly to the dream-world. There you can be solipsistic and change the world easily with your thoughts alone. I doubt it applies to this one.

Originally Posted by Max Power

1. It makes you take full responsibility for everything. If it's in your awareness, then it's of your creation.

2. Creation only takes place right now, not yesterday, not tomorrow, right now, so when you want to change somethining in your world, you change it inside you right now and it will change, it has to.

So it's all you and it's all now Would you really want to live any other way?? But that you is not you the human being it's you consciousness. Awesome cosmic power, itty, bitty human bean

I think it makes you responsible for things you are not responsible for. You are in a great way responsible for your own experience. But not for all of it.

How do you know you're consciousness?

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by agnostic

I'm supposed not to trust my own eyes, but believe in my fantasies instead? This doesn't sound very empowering to me. Delusional, yes, but not empowering. At least not in the long term.

It's not that easy. I agree to the degree that you co-create your own experience. Your beliefs undoubtedly influence your perceptions - a lot.
But it's more probable that poverty will continue to exist out there when you stop looking at it. If a giant truck comes rushing towards you and you just close your eyes, the truck will be out of your perceived universe, yes. But only until it hits you. And then you'll be out of the truck's universe.

Throughout history people have been poisoned by people they have trusted. How do you think that happened? They surely didn't see that coming.
I'm not that well-versed in the Bible, but didn't Judas betray Jesus without Jesus knowing it?

I'm quite certain many people get diseases without thinking about them. I agree that the existence of the outside world is a model (everything is). But it's a pretty good one. I'd even say it's the best one you have.

I think your consciousness-theory applies perfectly to the dream-world. There you can be solipsistic and change the world easily with your thoughts alone. I doubt it applies to this one.

I think it makes you responsible for things you are not responsible for. You are in a great way responsible for your own experience. But not for all of it.

How do you know you're consciousness?

Everything you have said above is true........for you.

SR is a belief system, a way to look at reality and your life, no one can be convinced of it or made to accept it.

SR has a defined way to look at the world, who and what you are to empower you, but if it's not empowering, then it's hardly helpful is it.

You said, "How do you know you're consciousness?" the answer to that is..........for the same reason I know you're not. People incorrectly think that consciousness is a person or people, but that is incorrect and that's not SR. I (my physical body/mind/ego) is not consciousness, consciounsess creates people, not the other way around.

Consciousness isn't shared, it isn't people and it isn't everywhere. It's a noddle baking illusion/perception indeed, but it makes sense (to me) so it works for me.

The best way I've found to describe consciousness is to call it a container. Everything inside the container, including the container is consciousness, but nothing outside exists. Consciousness creates everything inside the container including an observer inside to observe creation. Everything is created by consciousness instantly and then the observer observes the manifestations. Consciousness creates time to experience growth and non manifestation to maintain a believable reality inside.

Welcome to the container, welcome to SR.

Inspect, accept or reject.

Max

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Everything you have said above is true........for you.

Well, if everything is true for everyone, the word "truth" loses its meaning. It is the concept of outer reality that is the basis for the idea of truth. If you denied such a reality, all discussion would be meaningless.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by agnostic

Well, if everything is true for everyone, the word "truth" loses its meaning. It is the concept of outer reality that is the basis for the idea of truth. If you denied such a reality, all discussion would be meaningless.

Truth is a very personal thing and people believe different things are true for them and not for others, so for the individual isn't everything they believe true until they believe otherwise? Do people wander the earth constantly changing what they believe to be true?

People take a truth and apply it until they feel something else is true, so in fact something is always true for them. Maybe that makes the word, true meaningless, maybe that's true, maybe it's not.

The argument becomes redundant very fast.

Max

[Anagogy]

Max, I've been reading some of your posts about subjective reality lately, and I'm slightly perplexed by a few of your comments. For example, you say:

In the SR belief system, it's all you, not you your body, humaness, but you-consciousness. So the connection is very easy to see. If you are consciousness, then something can only exist if you (consciousness) are aware of it, to observe it is to be aware of it, so if you're not there to observe it, it's not in awareness and therefore doesn't exist.

And then, you also expounded upon this by explaining:

To use SR as a belief system that empowers creatorship means we have to let go of identifying ourselves as human beings, while that is our important observation point, it is not where we create from for it is a creation itself and creations don't create.

And in another post in response to a comment by cylon:

What actually happened was that you projected that thought onto him and he then simulated the thought. Now that makes it sound like he has no free will of his own and that he doesn't actually have his own thoughts.

From the SR POV that is exactly what is happening, but to accept that you have to accept that technically, you don't have thoughts either, only consciousness has thoughts and human bodies (including your own) are just mechanisms for outputing those thoughts.

I'm curious, does this apply to other bodies as well? Are they points of observation too? Or do you believe that you, Max, are the only point of observation? I understand you believe that Max is contained within consciousness, which you identify with, rather than Max himself alone, as a separate organism, but I'm a little unclear about the avatar called Max and his relationship to the rest of the world. Also, if you can project thoughts onto the people that appear in YOUR awareness, why have you not rid the world of hunger and poverty? Or is it that since that is outside your awareness at the present moment it doesn't exist?

Again I must ask, is Max the only observation point?

I was wondering because in yet another post you stated:

The universe, planets, space, 6 billion people.
None of these things exist all at once. Consciousness (you) are very powerful, but it doesn't have to render everything in it's awareness all the time. If you were on a space ship looking out a window at earth, then you have created that perception instantly to observe, but while doing that you're not in a cave in the earth observing the inside of a cave. It's the same with all the people on earth, can you ever observe them all at the same time? No, consciousness doesn't need to do that, so it doesn't..

I'm curious, does this mean that if your observing avatar cannot see someone/something they completely cease to exist? This is starting to sound like the locus of power and identification is with the observing avatar rather than consciousness/god mind/container. I would tend to think that consciousness itself, being unlimited and all, would occupy far more states than one simple observing avatar. Could it not have multiple "eyes" so to speak? Why not experience all conceivable configurations of consciousness if it is indeed unlimited? And if it was using its awesome power to experience these states, wouldn't it be aware of everything, in which case, nothing would ever cease to exist?

Consciousness is the container and everything inside it, but nothing outside of it, for nothing outside exists. You can bring anything into the container and make anything leave the container. You know it's your container, because you are the only one who is ever inside it 24/7.

Furthermore, if objects and/or people did cease to exist outside of conscious awareness, where are they being recalled from when they enter back into your awareness? Your use of the words "bring anything into the container" imply they are coming from some "where". They had to keep existing somewhere, else where would they be recalled from? From what template would you paint your creation if they completely ceased to exist?

And in the same post:

Some people say that we can't see consciousness, but I don't agree, if you want to see it, just take a look around at your present moment awareness, everything there right now including you as the observer is consciousness.

And then in a different post:

Consciousness isn't shared, it isn't people and it isn't everywhere. It's a noddle baking illusion/perception indeed, but it makes sense (to me) so it works for me.

Can you resolve this apparent contradiction? On the one hand you are saying consciousness is everything you are aware of, and in the other you are saying consciousness isn't everywhere. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting.

Inspect, accept or reject.

Let's try on option one for awhile.

As always, I appreciate any clarifying comments you have Max.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

Can you resolve this apparent contradiction? On the one hand you are saying consciousness is everything you are aware of, and in the other you are saying consciousness isn't everywhere. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting.

Tumbling down the rabbit hole............

An,

The answer to your question is in the question itself.

Consciousness isn't everywhere? True.

Consciousness is everything in awareness? True.

So if consciousness isn't everywhere and consciousness is only ever in awareness then who is conscious??

The answer is.................consciousness.

People are not conscious, you are not conscious, I am not conscious, can you see where this is leading????............onward.........

You think you're a human being?? You're not, while the human being is capable of observing creation, it is not creative, it is an observation point only.

It's a clever and cunning perception, but can you be aware of everything you've ever heard exists and everything that may exist but you never heard of?? No, why???

Because there are only two things that exist

1.Consciousness
2.This present moment and everything in it.

Here is the secret that holds it all together..........

People think they are consciousness and they are not.

You can test this if you like....where in your body are you?? Where is the essence of you, where is the thing that makes you, housed?? the real you, the you that thinks and feels, where?? In your brain? body? mind? No, if you consider it for long enough you will see that the thing, the spirit, the entity that is you, is not the human body at all, but it is everything in awareness. The tree, the table, the sky, the car driving past, the people in your life, the pain, the suffering, the love and the money, it's all you, the real you.

But wait, it gets worse or better depending on how you want to play it.................if consciousness isn't everywhere and only exists in the present moment then how can I be consciousness on one side of the planet and you be consciousness on the other side???

I'm not going to tell you the answer, because you need to see it for yourself, but remember, consciousness (the real you) is not human and as long as you observe it from your limited humaness, you'll never see the answer, I will give you a hint though..........the answer is staring you in the face.

Max

[Buttercup McToots]

I'm so glad I made you...

[cylon]

Consciousness is tripping me out. I have conversations with one person early in the day and later, someone else continues it where we left off.

Sometimes it's hard to believe this is really happening...but something's happening. Crazy little ripples. Sometimes they are really innocuous and sometimes they seem profound.

Anyway I am interested in humans as an observation point.

In What the Bleep, in the extended interviews, one of the professors was saying it would be ridiculous to think that the consciousness of a cat or mouse could have an effect on its environment.

It makes me think about evolution, how after our common ancestor, the other apes went one way, we went another... and clearly we ended up with "more" consciousness, since we are writing music and building cities. But if we evolved, that means the consciousness evolved with us, which would mean the potential for "our" consciousness was there in the beginning with the simpler creatures, going back to when life first appeared on the planet, so it had to tap into that potential consciousness too, which means that before lifeforms could have consciousness, the consciousness must have been there "somewhere".

But then again there's no such thing as time....

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Tumbling down the rabbit hole............

An,

The answer to your question is in the question itself.

Consciousness isn't everywhere? True.

Consciousness is everything in awareness? True.

So if consciousness isn't everywhere and consciousness is only ever in awareness then who is conscious??

The answer is.................consciousness.

People are not conscious, you are not conscious, I am not conscious, can you see where this is leading????............onward.........

Those are nothing but semantical distinctions that do nothing but confuse people. You say nothing is conscious but consciousness, and then you say everything inside the container is made up of consciousness. It just feels like playing with words to disguise understanding at this point.

Originally Posted by Max Power

You think you're a human being?? You're not, while the human being is capable of observing creation, it is not creative, it is an observation point only.

I thought I was everything I was aware of? Am I not aware of human beings also? So then I'm human too right?

Originally Posted by Max Power

It's a clever and cunning perception, but can you be aware of everything you've ever heard exists and everything that may exist but you never heard of?? No, why???

Because there are only two things that exist

1.Consciousness
2.This present moment and everything in it.

Those are some awfully large assumptions my friend. And there are individuals who claim it is possible to be aware of everything you've ever heard of at one time. Many claim that is one benefit of enlightenment. You say one thing, they say another -- both offer little proof. Logic has merit, but oftentimes is can be a creative after the fact rationalization itself, that starts with a preordained conclusion and reconstructs all the premises necessary to support the presupposed conclusion. I suppose there is always intuition, but that is wholly dependent on the clarity of the intuitive...

Originally Posted by Max Power

Here is the secret that holds it all together..........

People think they are consciousness and they are not.

You can test this if you like....where in your body are you?? Where is the essence of you, where is the thing that makes you, housed?? the real you, the you that thinks and feels, where?? In your brain? body? mind? No, if you consider it for long enough you will see that the thing, the spirit, the entity that is you, is not the human body at all, but it is everything in awareness. The tree, the table, the sky, the car driving past, the people in your life, the pain, the suffering, the love and the money, it's all you, the real you.

There are some things we can agree upon. One of them is that location is an illusion. And I don't deny that the things you consciously encounter in life will reflect your inner state and are actually extensions of our very beings. As you say, it is all you. But did you ever stop to consider that the "you" that you really are is even bigger than that?

You never did answer me where things that you are not aware of (in other words, things that have ceased to exist in your SR belief system) come back from when you bring them back into your awareness. You assume that because you are no longer aware of them, they must have ceased to exist in the container of consciousness, but if that were true, there would be no template to draw them back again when you bring them back into your awareness. Could it be that there are things which part of you is aware of, and another part isn't?

The world you encounter is a reflection of your consciousness -- the world that your conscious self you currently perceive yourself to be encounters. But your true consciousness, if we can call it that, is even bigger than that. The consciousness you deal with on a day to day basis is only part of that bigger whole. A reflection if you will. It is not necessary for your conscious self to deal with the magnitude of Existence that the whole is capable of perceiving. Besides, it would negate the purpose of the world of limitation anyhow. So there are things you are not aware of, consciously, but still exist in consciousness. I'm not saying that things wouldn't cease to exist if consciousness wasn't there to perceive it, I'm just saying there is always consciousness there to perceive things, even if the observation point you currently perceive yourself to be, is not aware of them.

Originally Posted by Max Power

But wait, it gets worse or better depending on how you want to play it.................if consciousness isn't everywhere and only exists in the present moment then how can I be consciousness on one side of the planet and you be consciousness on the other side???

Do you see what you are doing here? You are projecting human limitations onto the Whole One Consciousness that you claim to be identifying with. In some ways, I can admire the idea of subjective reality, but it assumes too much -- too many limitations for me to take it in completely. I feel many truths are mixed with illusions which gives the false impression to many of it being more or less accurate. But I contend that is not entirely accurate. It is true that reality is subjective. There is no way to divide consciousness from reality. The observer is not separate from the observed. But the observer, the dreamer, the true experiencer, is not limited by the point of observation you experience here on Earth, reading this forum. That is projecting human sized concepts onto something that is so, so, so, much bigger.

There is a psuedo objective reality that is created by consensus perception. You see, The Dreamer has many eyes, just like your physical body has more than one eye. With your physical body, the slight difference in perspective creates the illusion of 3D eye sight even though, in reality, it is just two 2-dimensional images. In the same way, the psuedo objective reality is created by the many eyes of The Dreamer. The difference in perspective gives rise to the artificial reality of objectivity and is compounded into the illusion that we exist as separate individuals.

Originally Posted by Max Power

I'm not going to tell you the answer, because you need to see it for yourself, but remember, consciousness (the real you) is not human and as long as you observe it from your limited humaness, you'll never see the answer, I will give you a hint though..........the answer is staring you in the face.

Yes, the answer is staring me in the face, but somehow I doubt it is the answer you had in mind for me. Do you think perhaps the reason you are reluctant to describe the answer is because you are afraid how it will come across to me? But aren't I just another manifestation of yourself according to your belief system? Why should you worry how your self will react to your self if we are as you envision? There will come a period of growth on the cycle of experience, where we will stop dreaming we are here on planet Earth as human beings, and wake up to our larger selves, consciously. But please don't pretend you've achieved that when you haven't. We are all god, yes. But how many are god consciously?

I realize you think I'm seeing reality through my limited humaness, but If you will patiently, and emotionlessly observe your current belief system, you will see it is actually you who are projecting limitation onto your world. And I say that with a sincere desire to share perspective with you. I really do enjoy discussing these things.

Cheers,
Me

[Digits]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Truth is a very personal thing and people believe different things are true for them and not for others, so for the individual isn't everything they believe true until they believe otherwise? Do people wander the earth constantly changing what they believe to be true?

People take a truth and apply it until they feel something else is true, so in fact something is always true for them. Maybe that makes the word, true meaningless, maybe that's true, maybe it's not.

The argument becomes redundant very fast.

Max

Easter bunny. And discarding the POSSIBILITY of an objective truth in order to hold a belief system seems like a bad idea to me. Seems very cultish.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

But please don't pretend you've achieved that when you haven't

Far from it, I talk from how I want to see the my world. I do not pretend that I'm enlightened or god or a mystical guru on a mountain top, I sometimes consider I can sense consciousness, but it doesn't last (that's not really the point is it) if you're looking for someone to hold you hand and show you the truth, that isn't me, that's you my friend. I always write to myself. When I write something here I am talking to myself, clarifying, inspecting and stabilizing.

I realize you think I'm seeing reality through my limited humaness, but If you will patiently, and emotionlessly observe your current belief system, you will see it is actually you who are projecting limitation onto your world. And I say that with a sincere desire to share perspective with you. I really do enjoy discussing these things.

Again, don't think of what I write as me telling you, more of me telling me. Yes it's a rollercoaster, yes it sometimes (often) doesn't make sense, but my job is to free me, to free my mind, my ego.

God "Not everyone believes what you do Max."

Max: "My beliefs do not require them to."

Max

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by cylon

But then again there's no such thing as time....

Try this to bake your noodle properly.......

Not only is there not time, but past and future don't and never existed. The whole thing, you're whole entire existance is in this one present moment and everything that you think happened in the past, is a perception in your head.

The true moment of awareness, of awakening is when you realise that you exist right now and never at any other time. Sit down and think about random things from your past, just relax and cruise back over your past right back as far as you can remember, how do you know any of it happened? The whole thing could be a complete fabrication to allude to a past and therefore a full life.

If time doesn't exist (even smartypants einstein had a theory about it) then how can we be sure our past actually happened and why is the future somehing that we know hasn't happened yet?

Here's the goo...........

Right now you're in the moment mostly letting the past affect and infect your present and therefore building the future, but if the past didn't happen and isn't real, then it's useless as a reference point and should be completely abandoned. The past isn't real, it can't be and if it isn't real it is of no help.

The only thing in the past that is truly worth considering is...........love.......and that is something that inspires you to have it and enjoy it right now. When do you love someone the most? When they're not around, so you bring them into your present moment.

Now if the past didn't happen or at least isn't real, then what about the future and the present? Well, the future can never happen, because when it gets here it's the now and therefore the present is all there is.

Here's where the grey goo starts leaking out of your ears..........

If the past doesn't exist (it doesn't) and the future doesn't exist (it doesn't) then the only thing we have is right now. So that means everything exists right now and that includes everything you desire. If the future cannot exist, how can something you don't have not exist? If you want a million dollars, then it can't exist in the future, because not only does the future never arrive, it can never exist, so the million dollars can only exist right now, you must already have it.

"Max, that's crazy talk! I can't see the million dollars, you're talking *bleep* again!"

And there's your answer, seeing it. You can't see it, because you can't see it.

How does anything happen in your life?? You have to see it first, you cannot and do not make anything come into your life until you see it (on some level) first.

What is seeing? Observation. What is observation? Creation.

As you observe it, your creating it, instantly right now. When you observe something for a while and then eventually it arrives, why did it take some time?? Because your whole reality package includes............the desire to experience growth and growth can only ever be achieved by the passge of time.

Everything you already desire is right here now in this moment, if you can't see it, it's because you're not seeing it, your not observing it, your observing something else and that is what is in your present moment.

Max

God: "Not everyone believes what you do Max."

Max: "My beliefs do not require them to."

[cylon]

Great post Max.... I'm sure I'll read it a few more times as usual.

I am going insane. But in a GOOD way.


So much is happening all at once... which I guess would make sense, since there's only "all at once" to begin with.

In my daily life I am starting to feel like I do when I'm having a lucid dream, half aware of my creation of the stuff in the dream world, half caught up in the dream, etc.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by cylon

Great post Max.... I'm sure I'll read it a few more times as usual.

I am going insane. But in a GOOD way.


So much is happening all at once... which I guess would make sense, since there's only "all at once" to begin with.

In my daily life I am starting to feel like I do when I'm having a lucid dream, half aware of my creation of the stuff in the dream world, half caught up in the dream, etc.

Just remember SR is supposed to be an empowering belief system, anything that hurts you, makes you feel weird or crazy and/or makes things worse, should be avoided at all costs.

It suposed to help not hinder

Max

[cylon]

It's helping... when I say I'm going insane, I mean my mind is looking at things from different angles it hasn't before, things are more interesting now.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by cylon

It's helping... when I say I'm going insane, I mean my mind is looking at things from different angles it hasn't before, things are more interesting now.

I've mentioned in another post about the ever present moment and how if you just sit and observe and sense right now, you can see that everything is created right now and everything exists right now.

Often we spend so much time outside the moment we lose the moment and end up dreading the past and fearing the future, which is a little silly because we can never exist in either of those perceptions.

It's all now, it's all created right now and it's all you.

Max